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Re: Trayvon Martin
Posted by dita
ETA: You can read some of his tweets. He doesn't seem like such a nice kid after all.
Do you even hear yourself?
bc he talked a bunch of 17 yr old bogus on twitter he now is classified as NOT a nice kid and therefore his murder is justified????
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Re: Trayvon Martin
once that man made the decision to get out of the car, he initiated the ENTIRE encounter.
that is it.
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| Posted 3/27/12 10:00 AM |
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Re: Trayvon Martin
Posted by dita
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are the pictures we see of Trayvon RECENT pics of him? They look like when he was much younger, not 17 
No. Google "trayvon martin twitter"
In the photo for his Twitter account he has gold teeth. His handle is: NO_LIMIT_NI***
I starred out the last word because I don't like that word.
ETA: You can read some of his tweets. He doesn't seem like such a nice kid after all.
They are using a younger picture of him in the media. As far as his handle and any quote that he had said, that still isn't any reason for Zimmerman to be following him. I highly doubt Zimmerman had any information on his twitter account. His past behavior (Trayvon) has no bearing on how Zimmerman acted. Being a "not such a nice kid after all" isn't grounds for murder.
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Re: Trayvon Martin
Posted by carolyns4cupcakes
Posted by dita
ETA: You can read some of his tweets. He doesn't seem like such a nice kid after all.
Do you even hear yourself?
No she doesn't. 
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Re: Trayvon Martin
Posted by LeShellem
Posted by dita
Posted by LadyPrincess
are the pictures we see of Trayvon RECENT pics of him? They look like when he was much younger, not 17
No. Google "trayvon martin twitter"
In the photo for his Twitter account he has gold teeth. His handle is: NO_LIMIT_NI***
I starred out the last word because I don't like that word.
ETA: You can read some of his tweets. He doesn't seem like such a nice kid after all.
They are using a younger picture of him in the media. As far as his handle and any quote that he had said, that still isn't any reason for Zimmerman to be following him. I highly doubt Zimmerman had any information on his twitter account. His past behavior (Trayvon) has no bearing on how Zimmerman acted. Being a "not such a nice kid after all" isn't grounds for murder.
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Re: Trayvon Martin
Posted by LeShellem
Being a "not such a nice kid after all" isn't grounds for murder.
agreed.
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Re: Trayvon Martin
Posted by HeathKernandez
Posted by LeShellem
Being a "not such a nice kid after all" isn't grounds for murder.
agreed.
i think i can agree to this without saying i formed an opnion on the case 
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Re: Trayvon Martin
It baffles me that people think it's okay for a man to follow a teenager in his car, for NO REASON because he thought he was "up to no good". (Zimmerman's words on the 911 tape) Then call 911 and be told DO NOT FOLLOW HIM SIR and then this man continues to not only follow him, but GET OUT OF THE CAR and approach him.
I don't care what the race/sex/religion/sexual orientation of stranger who does not have any business following me in the first place is...if they come at me I am going to react and that is likely what Trayvon Martin did. Zimmerman was the INSTIGATOR in this situation...he antagonized Martin by following him in the car and then approaching after being told expressively DO NOT GET OUT OF YOUR CAR by the 911 operator. How the hell is he allowed to claim "Stand your ground" here if he was the one who started everything. If he got into an altercation with Martin that was HIS doing by being where he was not supposed to be, and because Martin was whooping his ass he deserves to be murdered?
UNREAL. And seriously, people pulling out "well he was suspended from school at the time...did you see his pics? Doesn't seem like a good kid to me..." is sickening. I don't give a shit if what kind of twitter handle he had or if he was taking picks with his middle finger up or whatever, in THIS instance that boy was innocent. He was minding his business and walking in a neighborhood to head to someone's house with no ill intentions and Zimmerman felt he shouldn't be allowed to do that. So he became some sort of vigilante and now this teenager is dead. How he is not being arrested is beyond me because of that despicable law.
How can you light a match that sparks a fire and be able to have NO repercussions from it? Disgusting.
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Re: Trayvon Martin
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The bottom line is that this "Stand Your Ground" law really is a license to kill. You are giving people the chance to legally harm and/or kill another human being based on a feeling. That is what the police are for. I think the state of Florida is to blame for allowing such a brutalistic law to even be enacted. Homicide rates have TRIPLED since this law was passed, and that's not unnerving? How could anyone, black/white/red/green ever even feel comfortable leaving their house without fear?
These are basically my thoughts as well.
I wont give my opnion on this case because i dont have all the facts but I will say this; I think using deadly force should be the absolute last resort in any situation; its bad enough when cops, who are trained to handle hostile siutations, shoot and kill unarmed people (no matter why it was done, they really thought they were in danger etc.) now we have to worry about any person with absolutley no training doing the same.
I cant imagine how many murders people get away with this law. What stops anyone to say that they killed someone cause they feared for thier life even if that wasnt the case. Seriously how easy it must be to plan out killing someone and getting away with it with law like this.
I can not belive that this law even exists and still does!
This!
This law has to go.
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Re: Trayvon Martin
Posted by dita
Posted by LadyPrincess
are the pictures we see of Trayvon RECENT pics of him? They look like when he was much younger, not 17
No. Google "trayvon martin twitter"
In the photo for his Twitter account he has gold teeth. His handle is: NO_LIMIT_NI***
I starred out the last word because I don't like that word.
ETA: You can read some of his tweets. He doesn't seem like such a nice kid after all.
Being "not so nice" and having gold teeth means NOTHING. A KID holding only skittles and a snapple was hunted down and murdered.
Like I said before this whole thing chills me to my core. That could have be anybodies child and if he was white I can only imagine what people would be saying/doing. His murderer runs free because of some backwards law.
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Re: Trayvon Martin
I don't know much about this case, just what I've heard on the news and read here.. I haven't done any independent research at all but some of the things I'm seeing make me scratch my head a little...
Even if this kid was a total no good punk he still didn't deserve to be followed and ultimately murdered by this man.. he was unarmed, talking to his girlfriend on the phone. I feel like if Zimmerman left this kid alone and drove away, nothing would have happened. He would have went back to his aunt's house and that's that.
And the idea that Zimmerman, being hispanic and having black people in his family automatically means he's not racist makes me want to laugh.. My DH is hispanic, has black people in his family and has a few racists in his family as well.   Anyone can be a racist, no matter what they look like or where they come from.
Further, the Black Panthers and their bounty aren't helping to do anything except maybe incite a riot.
Florida needs to realize they aren't the wild west.. legalizing vigilantism is downright stupid and clearly dangerous. I may never leave New York again.
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Re: Trayvon Martin
Posted by MrsPJB2007
It baffles me that people think it's okay for a man to follow a teenager in his car, for NO REASON because he thought he was "up to no good". (Zimmerman's words on the 911 tape) Then call 911 and be told DO NOT FOLLOW HIM SIR and then this man continues to not only follow him, but GET OUT OF THE CAR and approach him.
I don't care what the race/sex/religion/sexual orientation of stranger who does not have any business following me in the first place is...if they come at me I am going to react and that is likely what Trayvon Martin did. Zimmerman was the INSTIGATOR in this situation...he antagonized Martin by following him in the car and then approaching after being told expressively DO NOT GET OUT OF YOUR CAR by the 911 operator. How the hell is he allowed to claim "Stand your ground" here if he was the one who started everything. If he got into an altercation with Martin that was HIS doing by being where he was not supposed to be, and because Martin was whooping his ass he deserves to be murdered?
UNREAL. And seriously, people pulling out "well he was suspended from school at the time...did you see his pics? Doesn't seem like a good kid to me..." is sickening. I don't give a shit if what kind of twitter handle he had or if he was taking picks with his middle finger up or whatever, in THIS instance that boy was innocent. He was minding his business and walking in a neighborhood to head to someone's house with no ill intentions and Zimmerman felt he shouldn't be allowed to do that. So he became some sort of vigilante and now this teenager is dead. How he is not being arrested is beyond me because of that despicable law.
How can you light a match that sparks a fire and be able to have NO repercussions from it? Disgusting.
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Re: Trayvon Martin
I think if we google any 17 year old boys twitter/fb account, we may be a little disturbed.. teenagers will naturally act out on social media.. not to say this kid didn't have issues, maybe he was a troubled kid. The reality is, he was NOT armed, not even with a swiss army knife. No weapons. He saw a man following him and eventually confronted him which all of us would do. Ok so what if he ran from zimmerman. Do we think he would have looked more suspicious then? Like other posters said, we will never know what fully happened unless someone taped the entire encounter. Some witnesses saw Martin on Zimmerman while others saw the opposite. Some think Zimmerman was screaming for help while others said it was Martin. The reality that we should be focusing on is that a kid was killed walking from the store by a person who was self appointed to watch his community with a gun. Guns put in the hands of crazy/insecure people can hurt any one of us. The police failed to adequately detain, question, or report important information. Many wrong things happened here. I hope this story brings awareness to the many injustices out there.
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Re: Trayvon Martin
Posted by MrsPJB2007
It baffles me that people think it's okay for a man to follow a teenager in his car, for NO REASON because he thought he was "up to no good". (Zimmerman's words on the 911 tape) Then call 911 and be told DO NOT FOLLOW HIM SIR and then this man continues to not only follow him, but GET OUT OF THE CAR and approach him.
I don't care what the race/sex/religion/sexual orientation of stranger who does not have any business following me in the first place is...if they come at me I am going to react and that is likely what Trayvon Martin did. Zimmerman was the INSTIGATOR in this situation...he antagonized Martin by following him in the car and then approaching after being told expressively DO NOT GET OUT OF YOUR CAR by the 911 operator. How the hell is he allowed to claim "Stand your ground" here if he was the one who started everything. If he got into an altercation with Martin that was HIS doing by being where he was not supposed to be, and because Martin was whooping his ass he deserves to be murdered?
UNREAL. And seriously, people pulling out "well he was suspended from school at the time...did you see his pics? Doesn't seem like a good kid to me..." is sickening. I don't give a shit if what kind of twitter handle he had or if he was taking picks with his middle finger up or whatever, in THIS instance that boy was innocent. He was minding his business and walking in a neighborhood to head to someone's house with no ill intentions and Zimmerman felt he shouldn't be allowed to do that. So he became some sort of vigilante and now this teenager is dead. How he is not being arrested is beyond me because of that despicable law.
How can you light a match that sparks a fire and be able to have NO repercussions from it? Disgusting.
i would agree with all of this and i want to but everytime i think i know all the facts something new comes out and i feel that maybe i might be wrong.
Thats why i dont want to say i have a solid opinion on the case.
I do belive that the law is ridiculous (as stated in my other post)
I dont think not being a nice kid deserves you to get murdered.
I dont think anyone should use deadly force unless some one has a weapon.
He probably should be arrested but with this law he probably cant
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Re: Trayvon Martin
Florida needs to realize they aren't the wild west.. legalizing vigilantism is downright stupid and clearly dangerous. I may never leave New York again.
I'm actually scared to go to FL now and it sounds so ridiculous but things seem so out of control there.
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Re: Trayvon Martin
Posted by carolyns4cupcakes
Posted by dita
ETA: You can read some of his tweets. He doesn't seem like such a nice kid after all.
Do you even hear yourself?
bc he talked a bunch of 17 yr old bogus on twitter he now is classified as NOT a nice kid and therefore his murder is justified????
without expressing an opinion about the case at all... i just want to point out that she didn't say that she opines that his murder is justified because he doesn't seem like such a nice kid.
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Re: Trayvon Martin
Posted by MrsPJB2007
It baffles me that people think it's okay for a man to follow a teenager in his car, for NO REASON because he thought he was "up to no good". (Zimmerman's words on the 911 tape) Then call 911 and be told DO NOT FOLLOW HIM SIR and then this man continues to not only follow him, but GET OUT OF THE CAR and approach him.
I don't care what the race/sex/religion/sexual orientation of stranger who does not have any business following me in the first place is...if they come at me I am going to react and that is likely what Trayvon Martin did. Zimmerman was the INSTIGATOR in this situation...he antagonized Martin by following him in the car and then approaching after being told expressively DO NOT GET OUT OF YOUR CAR by the 911 operator. How the hell is he allowed to claim "Stand your ground" here if he was the one who started everything. If he got into an altercation with Martin that was HIS doing by being where he was not supposed to be, and because Martin was whooping his ass he deserves to be murdered?
UNREAL. And seriously, people pulling out "well he was suspended from school at the time...did you see his pics? Doesn't seem like a good kid to me..." is sickening. I don't give a shit if what kind of twitter handle he had or if he was taking picks with his middle finger up or whatever, in THIS instance that boy was innocent. He was minding his business and walking in a neighborhood to head to someone's house with no ill intentions and Zimmerman felt he shouldn't be allowed to do that. So he became some sort of vigilante and now this teenager is dead. How he is not being arrested is beyond me because of that despicable law.
How can you light a match that sparks a fire and be able to have NO repercussions from it? Disgusting.
yes, this is my entire point, beautifully laid out.
READ THIS PEOPLE.
b/c what this means...what this could mean is...when a young woman is accosted by a would be rapist, and if she managed to fight back and he KILLS HER, he has a legal leg to stand on.
this is absolutely HORRENDOUS. I cannot be. It must not be.
for the love of God, forget the whole "I don't want white people blamed for racism" or "he was white so it must be racism" for one second and look at the bare bones...
this man is being told it is OK to KILL after INITIATING an encounter with another human being.
this CANNOT BE ALLOWED. it's positively frightening.
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Re: Trayvon Martin
What would the point be of raising the issue of his tweets if it was not to say in some way his shooting was justified?
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Re: Trayvon Martin
Posted by JsWife
I am clearly in the minority here with what I am about to say - kind of radical - can we get more details before we convict anyone of anything?
My biggest problem is that it took so long for the police department to notify his family and begin a full investigation.
No you're not in the minority. I think we all think that there should be an investigation before we convict anyone of anything - including Zimmerman.
The outrage is that the Sanford Police Department already cleared him on any wrongdoing. By the way the Sanford Police Department had previously been accused of racism.Source: http://www.courierpostonline.com/article/20120323/NEWS05/203230314/History-racial-tension-Fla-city-blacks
An armed guy that follows an unarmed person against the advice of the 911 operator, struggles & ultimately kills him needs to be arrested.
Let's say that George Zimmerman's story is completely true. At minimum, not even manslaughter should be considered?
In Florida, manslaughter, defined as: The killing of a human being by the act, procurement, or culpable negligence of another, without lawful justification according to the provisions of chapter 776 and in cases in which such killing shall not be excusable homicide or murder .http://www.flsenate.gov/laws/statutes/2011/782.07
Justifiable use of force is:
http://www.flsenate.gov/Laws/Statutes/2011/Chapter776
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Re: Trayvon Martin
From what I understand about the "Stand your Ground" law. . . it sounds like Trayvon would have been justified if he killed Zimmerman . . . and not the other way around since it SEEMS as though Zimmerman initiated the confrontation. . . I don't understand how it would apply to Zimmerman killing Trayvon.
I dont think ANY law states that you can INSTIGATE a fight and then kill the person as self defense? Am I misreading the law?
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Re: Trayvon Martin
Posted by MrsPJB2007
It baffles me that people think it's okay for a man to follow a teenager in his car, for NO REASON because he thought he was "up to no good". (Zimmerman's words on the 911 tape) Then call 911 and be told DO NOT FOLLOW HIM SIR and then this man continues to not only follow him, but GET OUT OF THE CAR and approach him.
I don't care what the race/sex/religion/sexual orientation of stranger who does not have any business following me in the first place is...if they come at me I am going to react and that is likely what Trayvon Martin did. Zimmerman was the INSTIGATOR in this situation...he antagonized Martin by following him in the car and then approaching after being told expressively DO NOT GET OUT OF YOUR CAR by the 911 operator. How the hell is he allowed to claim "Stand your ground" here if he was the one who started everything. If he got into an altercation with Martin that was HIS doing by being where he was not supposed to be, and because Martin was whooping his ass he deserves to be murdered?
UNREAL. And seriously, people pulling out "well he was suspended from school at the time...did you see his pics? Doesn't seem like a good kid to me..." is sickening. I don't give a shit if what kind of twitter handle he had or if he was taking picks with his middle finger up or whatever, in THIS instance that boy was innocent. He was minding his business and walking in a neighborhood to head to someone's house with no ill intentions and Zimmerman felt he shouldn't be allowed to do that. So he became some sort of vigilante and now this teenager is dead. How he is not being arrested is beyond me because of that despicable law.
How can you light a match that sparks a fire and be able to have NO repercussions from it? Disgusting.
Thanks MJ. This is it EXACTLY.
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Can someone link a recent pic of him please. I can't get to the twitter or find recent pics and I am curious of the different apperance. My question is why would you have an old pic of your child up? It's off topic I know but it doesn't make sense. Do they think there will be more outcry for justice if they show a picture of him at 10 or 11 smiling and innocent looking vs a big 17yr old boy with gold teeth? It just seems misleading.
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Re: Trayvon Martin
Posted by GioiaMia
From what I understand about the "Stand your Ground" law. . . it sounds like Trayvon would have been justified if he killed Zimmerman . . . and not the other way around since it SEEMS as though Zimmerman initiated the confrontation. . . I don't understand how it would apply to Zimmerman killing Trayvon.
I dont think ANY law states that you can INSTIGATE a fight and then kill the person as self defense? Am I misreading the law?
I'm not an attorney but I'm reading it, it wouldn't apply at all. Deadly force is for home protection only.
Here is the text of Stand Your Ground:
Florida:
2011 Florida Statutes CHAPTER 776 JUSTIFIABLE USE OF FORCE[17]
776.012 Use of force in defense of person.—A person is justified in using force, except deadly force , against another when and to the extent that the person reasonably believes that such conduct is necessary to defend himself or herself or another against the other’s imminent use of unlawful force. However, a person is justified in the use of deadly force and does not have a duty to retreat if:
(1) He or she reasonably believes that such force is necessary to prevent imminent death or great bodily harm to himself or herself or another or to prevent the imminent commission of a forcible felony; or
(2) Under those circumstances permitted pursuant to s. 776.013.
776.013 Home protection; use of deadly force; presumption of fear of death or great bodily harm.—
(1) A person is presumed to have held a reasonable fear of imminent peril of death or great bodily harm to himself or herself or another when using defensive force that is intended or likely to cause death or great bodily harm to another if:
(a) The person against whom the defensive force was used was in the process of unlawfully and forcefully entering, or had unlawfully and forcibly entered, a dwelling, residence, or occupied vehicle, or if that person had removed or was attempting to remove another against that person’s will from the dwelling, residence, or occupied vehicle; and
(b) The person who uses defensive force knew or had reason to believe that an unlawful and forcible entry or unlawful and forcible act was occurring or had occurred.
(2) The presumption set forth in subsection (1) does not apply if:
(a) The person against whom the defensive force is used has the right to be in or is a lawful resident of the dwelling, residence, or vehicle, such as an owner, lessee, or titleholder, and there is not an injunction for protection from domestic violence or a written pretrial supervision order of no contact against that person; or
(b) The person or persons sought to be removed is a child or grandchild, or is otherwise in the lawful custody or under the lawful guardianship of, the person against whom the defensive force is used; or
(c) The person who uses defensive force is engaged in an unlawful activity or is using the dwelling, residence, or occupied vehicle to further an unlawful activity; or
(d) The person against whom the defensive force is used is a law enforcement officer, as defined in s. 943.10(14), who enters or attempts to enter a dwelling, residence, or vehicle in the performance of his or her official duties and the officer identified himself or herself in accordance with any applicable law or the person using force knew or reasonably should have known that the person entering or attempting to enter was a law enforcement officer.
(3) A person who is not engaged in an unlawful activity and who is attacked in any other place where he or she has a right to be has no duty to retreat and has the right to stand his or her ground and meet force with force, including deadly force if he or she reasonably believes it is necessary to do so to prevent death or great bodily harm to himself or herself or another or to prevent the commission of a forcible felony.
(4) A person who unlawfully and by force enters or attempts to enter a person’s dwelling, residence, or occupied vehicle is presumed to be doing so with the intent to commit an unlawful act involving force or violence.
(5) As used in this section, the term:
(a) “Dwelling” means a building or conveyance of any kind, including any attached porch, whether the building or conveyance is temporary or permanent, mobile or immobile, which has a roof over it, including a tent, and is designed to be occupied by people lodging therein at night.
(b) “Residence” means a dwelling in which a person resides either temporarily or permanently or is visiting as an invited guest.
(c) “Vehicle” means a conveyance of any kind, whether or not motorized, which is designed to transport people or property.
776.032 Immunity from criminal prosecution and civil action for justifiable use of force.—
(1) A person who uses force as permitted in s. 776.012, s. 776.013, or s. 776.031 is justified in using such force and is immune from criminal prosecution and civil action for the use of such force, unless the person against whom force was used is a law enforcement officer, as defined in s. 943.10(14), who was acting in the performance of his or her official duties and the officer identified himself or herself in accordance with any applicable law or the person using force knew or reasonably should have known that the person was a law enforcement officer. As used in this subsection, the term “criminal prosecution” includes arresting, detaining in custody, and charging or prosecuting the defendant.
(2) A law enforcement agency may use standard procedures for investigating the use of force as described in subsection (1), but the agency may not arrest the person for using force unless it determines that there is probable cause that the force that was used was unlawful.
(3) The court shall award reasonable attorney’s fees, court costs, compensation for loss of income, and all expenses incurred by the defendant in defense of any civil action brought by a plaintiff if the court finds that the defendant is immune from prosecution as provided in subsection (1).
776.041 Use of force by aggressor. —The justification described in the preceding sections of this chapter is not available to a person who:
(1) Is attempting to commit, committing, or escaping after the commission of, a forcible felony; or
(2) Initially provokes the use of force against himself or herself, unless:
(a) Such force is so great that the person reasonably believes that he or she is in imminent danger of death or great bodily harm and that he or she has exhausted every reasonable means to escape such danger other than the use of force which is likely to cause death or great bodily harm to the assailant; or
(b) In good faith, the person withdraws from physical contact with the assailant and indicates clearly to the assailant that he or she desires to withdraw and terminate the use of force, but the assailant continues or resumes the use of force.
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Re: Trayvon Martin
Posted by mluvsj
What would the point be of raising the issue of his tweets if it was not to say in some way his shooting was justified?
maybe i'm strange, but I don't see that connection at all. i see it as the issue of his tweets could be raised to show, simply, that perhaps there is more than one side to the story? perhaps there is some information about the people involved that is not being presented in the media, for whatever reason (and just maybe for the exact reason that it would get a bad reaction like it did on here)?
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Re: Trayvon Martin
Posted by GioiaMia
From what I understand about the "Stand your Ground" law. . . it sounds like Trayvon would have been justified if he killed Zimmerman . . . and not the other way around since it SEEMS as though Zimmerman initiated the confrontation. . . I don't understand how it would apply to Zimmerman killing Trayvon.
I dont think ANY law states that you can INSTIGATE a fight and then kill the person as self defense? Am I misreading the law?
That is the murkiness of this law and why justifiable homicide has TRIPLED in Florida since it was enacted.
The law states that a person has “no duty to retreat and has the right to stand his or her ground.” The problem with this is that in Florida you do not have to use deadly force as a last resort. You can use it if you have a "reasonable" feeling that you are threatened. It doesn't address directly if you are the instigator of a situation, just that you only have to feel your life is threatened and then you can be justified in using deadly force.
It's a recipe for disaster and anyone can say "I felt my life was in danger..." and pull the trigger without repercussions.
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| Posted 3/27/12 11:00 AM |
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