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blu6385

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Re: Spinoff: If you had to

Posted by JustBrowsing

and if people bother to look at the poll results, 48 people said they would pick Trump, but I guess they didn't want to be bullied about their opinion.

I love how this board is so hypocritical about what you can bully someone about.



i am sick of the term bullying. its the internet and your a grown ass adult you should not be taking what i say personally since you have no idea who i am.

and for the record i didn't single you out. i made a general statement and you chose to defend your self

just like you have an opinion i have mine. and mine is anyone who truly support trump and especially if you are a women you should be ashamed of your self. that's my opinion you don't have to agree with it or like it just move on Chat Icon Chat Icon Chat Icon

Posted 1/26/16 4:20 PM
 

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Re: Spinoff: If you had to

Posted by blu6385

Posted by JustBrowsing

and if people bother to look at the poll results, 48 people said they would pick Trump, but I guess they didn't want to be bullied about their opinion.

I love how this board is so hypocritical about what you can bully someone about.



i am sick of the term bullying. its the internet and your a grown ass adult you should not be taking what i say personally since you have no idea who i am.

and for the record i didn't single you out. i made a general statement and you chose to defend your self

just like you have an opinion i have mine. and mine is anyone who truly support trump and especially if you are a women you should be ashamed of your self. that's my opinion you don't have to agree with it or like it just move on Chat Icon Chat Icon Chat Icon



Perhaps if such a fuss wasn't made over people, or a person, being bullied yesterday I might not feel that way. Hmmm...maybe you were not a part of that thread.

I did not choose to defend myself, and you did directly tell me I should defend how I felt to you. I think you read your post incorrectly. Trying to get people to see your position is not easily done when you say they should be ashamed of themselves, just so you know.

Posted 1/26/16 4:25 PM
 

blu6385

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Re: Spinoff: If you had to

Posted by JustBrowsing

Posted by blu6385

Posted by JustBrowsing

and if people bother to look at the poll results, 48 people said they would pick Trump, but I guess they didn't want to be bullied about their opinion.

I love how this board is so hypocritical about what you can bully someone about.



i am sick of the term bullying. its the internet and your a grown ass adult you should not be taking what i say personally since you have no idea who i am.

and for the record i didn't single you out. i made a general statement and you chose to defend your self

just like you have an opinion i have mine. and mine is anyone who truly support trump and especially if you are a women you should be ashamed of your self. that's my opinion you don't have to agree with it or like it just move on Chat Icon Chat Icon Chat Icon



Perhaps if such a fuss wasn't made over people, or a person, being bullied yesterday I might not feel that way. Hmmm...maybe you were not a part of that thread.

I did not choose to defend myself, and you did directly tell me I should defend how I felt to you. I think you read your post incorrectly. Trying to get people to see your position is not easily done when you say they should be ashamed of themselves, just so you know.



that was after you quoted me saying why should you feel ashamed. and i asked i would love to know how you support him after he says everything. again you chose to get your self in a conversation with me. if you didn't want to or cant handle it cause you feel like you being bullied then you should have just moved on from my comment

i don't even know how i bullied you ... the term bully is overly used ... everyone says it when someone may get feelings hurt its ridiculous

Posted 1/26/16 4:30 PM
 

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Re: Spinoff: If you had to

Posted by blu6385

Posted by JustBrowsing

Why should people be ashamed of themselves?

Should people be ashamed of themselves because they voted for Bill Clinton? Or they support Sanders?




did any of them say and act the way Trump does??? if so please let me know and then if they did then yes they should be ashamed for supporting an asshole.




Nothing says respect for women like having an intern on her knees in the Oval Office. Chat Icon

In all seriousness, I think they are all a-holes and if this is all we are given, I am not voting. I am hoping there is a semi decent independent candidate I can get behind. I never was a Bloomberg fan but I would vote for him over any of these other options in a heartbeat.

Posted 1/26/16 4:31 PM
 

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Re: Spinoff: If you had to

Please. Trump can't even handle Megyn Kelly being "mean" to him and you would trust this guy with the nukes? Hell to the no.

Posted 1/26/16 4:33 PM
 

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Re: Spinoff: If you had to

Posted by BunnyWife

Please. Trump can't even handle Megyn Kelly being "mean" to him and you would trust this guy with the nukes? Hell to the no.



He can't be trusted period with that hair do.

Posted 1/26/16 4:35 PM
 

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Re: Spinoff: If you had to

Posted by NoPlaceLikeHome

Nothing says respect for women like having an intern on her knees in the Oval Office. Chat Icon

In all seriousness, I think they are all a-holes and if this is all we are given, I am not voting. I am hoping there is a semi decent independent candidate I can get behind. I never was a Bloomberg fan but I would vote for him over any of these other options in a heartbeat.



this happened after he was on office ... and she chose to do it ... so if anything she has no respect for her self (yes i know she was probably impressionable and he should have known better but she is still accountable) and he is douche for cheating on his wife but that IMO is between him and her ... i would never marry him or would have i stayed married but to each their own Chat Icon

Posted 1/26/16 4:39 PM
 

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Re: Spinoff: If you had to

Posted by blu6385

Posted by NoPlaceLikeHome

Nothing says respect for women like having an intern on her knees in the Oval Office. Chat Icon

In all seriousness, I think they are all a-holes and if this is all we are given, I am not voting. I am hoping there is a semi decent independent candidate I can get behind. I never was a Bloomberg fan but I would vote for him over any of these other options in a heartbeat.



this happened after he was on office ... and she chose to do it ... so if anything she has no respect for her self (yes i know she was probably impressionable and he should have known better but she is still accountable) and he is douche for cheating on his wife but that IMO is between him and her ... i would never marry him or would have i stayed married but to each their own Chat Icon



It was a joke. Regardless though I believe anyone who would cheat on their spouse with multiple other women must not have much respect for the female sex.

Message edited 1/26/2016 4:51:29 PM.

Posted 1/26/16 4:50 PM
 

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Re: Spinoff: If you had to

Posted by NoPlaceLikeHome

Posted by blu6385

Posted by NoPlaceLikeHome

Nothing says respect for women like having an intern on her knees in the Oval Office. Chat Icon

In all seriousness, I think they are all a-holes and if this is all we are given, I am not voting. I am hoping there is a semi decent independent candidate I can get behind. I never was a Bloomberg fan but I would vote for him over any of these other options in a heartbeat.



this happened after he was on office ... and she chose to do it ... so if anything she has no respect for her self (yes i know she was probably impressionable and he should have known better but she is still accountable) and he is douche for cheating on his wife but that IMO is between him and her ... i would never marry him or would have i stayed married but to each their own Chat Icon



It was a joke. Regardless though I believe anyone who would cheat on their spouse with multiple other women must not have much respect for the female sex.

.

Or his wife as he let her go on the Today show and adamantly deny it happened. Ahh, the irony.

Ironically, today is the anniversary of the press conference when Bill said he did not have sexual relations with that woman.

Posted 1/26/16 5:54 PM
 

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Re: Spinoff: If you had to

Posted by blu6385

Posted by JustBrowsing

Posted by blu6385

Posted by JustBrowsing

and if people bother to look at the poll results, 48 people said they would pick Trump, but I guess they didn't want to be bullied about their opinion.

I love how this board is so hypocritical about what you can bully someone about.



i am sick of the term bullying. its the internet and your a grown ass adult you should not be taking what i say personally since you have no idea who i am.

and for the record i didn't single you out. i made a general statement and you chose to defend your self

just like you have an opinion i have mine. and mine is anyone who truly support trump and especially if you are a women you should be ashamed of your self. that's my opinion you don't have to agree with it or like it just move on Chat Icon Chat Icon Chat Icon



Perhaps if such a fuss wasn't made over people, or a person, being bullied yesterday I might not feel that way. Hmmm...maybe you were not a part of that thread.

I did not choose to defend myself, and you did directly tell me I should defend how I felt to you. I think you read your post incorrectly. Trying to get people to see your position is not easily done when you say they should be ashamed of themselves, just so you know.



that was after you quoted me saying why should you feel ashamed. and i asked i would love to know how you support him after he says everything. again you chose to get your self in a conversation with me. if you didn't want to or cant handle it cause you feel like you being bullied then you should have just moved on from my comment

i don't even know how i bullied you ... the term bully is overly used ... everyone says it when someone may get feelings hurt its ridiculous



Im not really feeling bullied by you. My point was lost on you and not on others. Mission accomplished.

I don't know if you have kids, but I Hope nobody picks on them so they dint come home on hear from you that you're tired of the term bullying. " suck it up kid"

Posted 1/26/16 6:09 PM
 

klingklang77
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Re: Spinoff: If you had to

Posted by JustBrowsing

Posted by blu6385

Posted by JustBrowsing

and if people bother to look at the poll results, 48 people said they would pick Trump, but I guess they didn't want to be bullied about their opinion.

I love how this board is so hypocritical about what you can bully someone about.



i am sick of the term bullying. its the internet and your a grown ass adult you should not be taking what i say personally since you have no idea who i am.

and for the record i didn't single you out. i made a general statement and you chose to defend your self

just like you have an opinion i have mine. and mine is anyone who truly support trump and especially if you are a women you should be ashamed of your self. that's my opinion you don't have to agree with it or like it just move on Chat Icon Chat Icon Chat Icon



Perhaps if such a fuss wasn't made over people, or a person, being bullied yesterday I might not feel that way. Hmmm...maybe you were not a part of that thread.

I did not choose to defend myself, and you did directly tell me I should defend how I felt to you. I think you read your post incorrectly. Trying to get people to see your position is not easily done when you say they should be ashamed of themselves, just so you know.



Fill me in on the thread from yesterday. How were you bullied?

Posted 1/26/16 6:24 PM
 

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Spinoff: If you had to

Wow this thread took a turn. And I guess the snow brought out the drama threads!!!!

Posted 1/26/16 6:33 PM
 

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Re: Spinoff: If you had to

Posted by alli3131

Wow this thread took a turn. And I guess the snow brought out the drama threads!!!!



I think politics does that. If you can't have a mature conversation and exchange of ideas without insulting someone, it's bound to happen.

Posted 1/26/16 6:41 PM
 

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Re: Spinoff: If you had to

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Posted by JustBrowsing

Posted by klingklang77

Posted by JustBrowsing

Posted by EatingMyVeggies

This is Sanders tax plan (it's a graphic. Very simple)
http://rebrn.com/re/the-new-bernie-sanders-proposed-tax-brackets-compared-to-rates-t-2146145/IMAGE



why should someone, like HOward Stern, who has busted his arse to make his career, who came from nothing and to get where he is, now have to fork over 50% of his income? This is ridiculous. We are not a socialist country, although it does feel like we are on the road to that.



That's a pretty good tax plan, and that is NOT a socialist tax rate-- trust me. I laugh when people say that that tax plan compares to a socialist tax rate Chat Icon Chat Icon Chat Icon Chat Icon . Some people have no clue...

I pay about 40-50% tax and I do not make what Howard Stern makes... Not even close.



Socialist tax rate, approximately in Germany is over 60% of the salary. It is a small country, comparatively to the US.



I'm pretty happy with the taxes I pay. I get a lot and life here is very good.



True curiosity-what do you get for that tax rate? I really have no clue.

Posted 1/26/16 7:46 PM
 

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Spinoff: If you had to

I do not like any of them, I am not sure I will be able to bring myself to vote this year unless there is a good independent that runs.

Posted 1/26/16 7:59 PM
 

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Re: Spinoff: If you had to

Posted by evrythng4areason

Posted by klingklang77

I'm pretty happy with the taxes I pay. I get a lot and life here is very good.



True curiosity-what do you get for that tax rate? I really have no clue.



The usual:

Unemployment (If I am ever unemployed, I would get classes to make myself employable and financial help)

Social Security (old age care)

Health Insurance (but not dental- working on that- it's complicated)

Pension

Unity Tax (for the rebuilding of the former East Germany)

Free University education

I opt out of the church tax by claiming I have no religion. I don't go to church, so why should I?

The infrastructure here is amazing (great network of subways, trains, and buses)

If you have children you get:

Elterngeld (parent money). I don't know the specifics of this- but you get money if you stay home with the child for 14 months (12 months one parent, 2 months another parent)

Kindergeld (child money)- you get an amount per child until they are 18 (21 if they are unemployed and 25 if they are at university). It's not a lot of money (190 Euros for each child for the first 2 children, 196 for the third and 221 for the 4th and following children.

I don't get a lot of that (no kids, young and I'm employed), but if any of that should change, I like that that option is there. It makes for a better society, IMO.

Sorry to go off topic and I'm not a Sanders supporter (gun control seals the deal for me), but I do like his tax policy.

ETA: I left out a few things, but you get the idea.

Message edited 1/27/2016 6:03:13 AM.

Posted 1/27/16 5:56 AM
 

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Re: Spinoff: If you had to

Posted by BunnyWife

Please. Trump can't even handle Megyn Kelly being "mean" to him and you would trust this guy with the nukes? Hell to the no.





Ding ding ding..i

Posted 1/27/16 6:44 AM
 

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Re: Spinoff: If you had to

Posted by JustBrowsing

Why should people be ashamed of themselves?

Should people be ashamed of themselves because they voted for Bill Clinton? Or they support Sanders?



Trump is openly sexist, racist, classist, every ist. Whether you like any other candidate from either side or not they are not OPENLY any of those things so for me just based on that, the fact that his platform is rooted in hate and bigotry he is out for me.

Posted 1/27/16 7:41 AM
 

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Re: Spinoff: If you had to

Posted by DiamondGirl

Posted by JustBrowsing

Why should people be ashamed of themselves?

Should people be ashamed of themselves because they voted for Bill Clinton? Or they support Sanders?



Trump is openly sexist, racist, classist, every ist. Whether you like any other candidate from either side or not they are not OPENLY any of those things so for me just based on that, the fact that his platform is rooted in hate and bigotry he is out for me.



This. Chat Icon Chat Icon Chat Icon

It's not an opinion at that point.

Posted 1/27/16 7:52 AM
 

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Re: Spinoff: If you had to

I'm shocked at the poll results. To see such a small difference between the 2 candidates.

Posted 1/27/16 8:16 AM
 

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Re: Spinoff: If you had to

Posted by JennZ

Posted by BunnyWife

Please. Trump can't even handle Megyn Kelly being "mean" to him and you would trust this guy with the nukes? Hell to the no.





Ding ding ding..i



That is not why he declined. He declined because of the way she treated him in the first debate. He said if she moderated the next debate he wouldn't attend. Fox News decided to keep her, so he stood by what he said and declined.

He is not scared of her. She was an asshole to him. Once again, Trump will not take anyones Bull shit. He is not PC, nor does he have to be. To run a country the proper way, you cannot worry about everyones feelings. Run the country. A CEO of a company does not worry about employees feelings, they do what they have to keep the company running. Sure employees count, but not when everything and anything offends them.

We need a strong leader, a strong leader that will not cave into the PC nonsense.

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Posted 1/27/16 8:17 AM
 

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Re: Spinoff: If you had to

Posted by LotsaLuv

Posted by JennZ

Posted by BunnyWife

Please. Trump can't even handle Megyn Kelly being "mean" to him and you would trust this guy with the nukes? Hell to the no.





Ding ding ding..i



That is not why he declined. He declined because of the way she treated him in the first debate. He said if she moderated the next debate he wouldn't attend. Fox News decided to keep her, so he stood by what he said and declined.

He is not scared of her. She was an asshole to him. Once again, Trump will not take anyones Bull shit. He is not PC, nor does he have to be. To run a country the proper way, you cannot worry about everyones feelings. Run the country. A CEO of a company does not worry about employees feelings, they do what they have to keep the company running. Sure employees count, but not when everything and anything offends them.

We need a strong leader, a strong leader that will not cave into the PC nonsense.




Agree on the strong leader, that isn't trump though. Jmho

Posted 1/27/16 8:36 AM
 

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Re: Spinoff: If you had to

Posted by LotsaLuv
He is not PC, nor does he have to be. To run a country the proper way, you cannot worry about everyones feelings. Run the country. A CEO of a company does not worry about employees feelings, they do what they have to keep the company running. Sure employees count, but not when everything and anything offends them.

We need a strong leader, a strong leader that will not cave into the PC nonsense.



You know that "PC" stands for politically correct, right? Given that Trump wants to be a politician, he should be politically correct because he is looking to be elected by some of those people who don't want him insulting them.

Your CEO analogy is comparing an apple to an orange. Unlike a president who is elected by people, employees have no say in who is appointed CEO of a company. The president should care about the American People, because Corporate America (i.e. Trump) sure as hell does not care about them at all which is evident from the stagnation of wage increases for the past 40 years.

http://thinkprogress.org/economy/2015/09/02/3697832/epi-wages-productivity/

Message edited 1/27/2016 8:42:32 AM.

Posted 1/27/16 8:42 AM
 

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Re: Spinoff: If you had to

Posted by Pumpkin1

Posted by LotsaLuv
He is not PC, nor does he have to be. To run a country the proper way, you cannot worry about everyones feelings. Run the country. A CEO of a company does not worry about employees feelings, they do what they have to keep the company running. Sure employees count, but not when everything and anything offends them.

We need a strong leader, a strong leader that will not cave into the PC nonsense.



You know that "PC" stands for politically correct, right? Given that Trump wants to be a politician, he should be politically correct because he is looking to be elected by some of those people who don't want him insulting them.

Your CEO analogy is comparing an apple to an orange. Unlike a president who is elected by people, employees have no say in who is appointed CEO of a company. The president should care about the American People, because Corporate America (i.e. Trump) sure as hell does not care about them at all which is evident from the stagnation of wage increases for the past 40 years.

http://thinkprogress.org/economy/2015/09/02/3697832/epi-wages-productivity/



an if not the American people what about Foreign relations? You can not run off at the mouth bc you are insulted, as the leader of the US it would be incredibly dangerous to have someone like this in charge for Foreign relations

Posted 1/27/16 8:56 AM
 

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Spinoff: If you had to

I agree he has to tone it down a bit, but that is not affecting my decision that he is better for the job than Bernie. He can be so d down, political views are not easily changed. Bernie is too liberal for what we need. Clearly a lot feel that way too, look at the poll, and look at all outside polls. If anyone thinks I should be ashamed of myself for going for him, well you are entitled to your opinion, but I don't feel ashamed at all and I am entitled to my own stance just like every other person who is voting in this election. With that said I will not defend my right to vote for who I want anymore on this thread.

Posted 1/27/16 9:35 AM
 
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