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Re: What do you think the new school year will look like?
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Plus, people cooped up indoors more, more germs being spread in closer quarters. .
Being cooped up indoors huh? Sounds awfully familiar
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I was talking to a friend who is a NYC teacher (I am in NYC schools too). She said her UFT rep is saying school won't be back to normal until January- then DH (who works in a hospital) said in January, it will be bad again because the virus is expected to upswing again with flu season--- but IDK.
She said the UFT rep said they are talking alternating schedules, lunch in classroom, still doing some remote learning, no specials, masks being worn ..it's a logistical nightmare. For the kids, for the parents, for the teachers...
I honestly would rather Cuomo with his "doom and gloom" rather than giving us false hope. I think he does it because if he says that things are better, people will ignore the rules and we'll have more cases. People are still getting sick. The hospitals are better able to handle cases now- but people are still being infected- even with all the rules in place. All I hear now is "two weeks until life is back to normal somewhat"-- that's not true and if that happens, the infection rate will spike and we'll be right back where we are.
See this is what I m confused about and may be someone can answer me.
Your DH and other medical professionals are saying there will be a spike in January, which, makes perfect sense. It seems regardless there is going to be a spike, there is no avoiding it. If we already started to relieve the stress on the medical community , shouldn’t things start slowly opening up in the summer? I’m obviously not a medical expert, but, wouldn’t it be better to deal with the spike during the summer as opposed to the height of Flu, Strep, and cold season? Let people start building some immunity over the summer who are asymptomatic or have minor symptoms? Especially predominant healthy kids?
Another honest questions, can part of the reason for increase in deaths during this time is because there is a combo of Flu-Strep-Covid illnesses? Like if this happened in the summer would the numbers be the same ?
I find it hard to believe that this year was one of the worse for strep & flu, and now all sudden you don’t hear anything about it. Like flu and strep just took a step back to let Covid have it’s moment.
I think any illness spikes in the winter months though. Your body's storage of Vitamin D from the Summer sunshine is depleted, and you can't fight off illness as easily. That's why the flu season isn't a thing in the Summer from what I've researched over the years. Vitamin D plays a vital role. Plus, people cooped up indoors more, more germs being spread in closer quarters. So yes, I think it will spike again, just like flu season does. But, maybe more people will wash their hands frequently, and still continue to practice the good hygiene they have learned from all of this! Thus, making it not AS bad.
Yes, which is why I laugh when all of these school officials mention January as being the magic month when schools can reopen. At the height of cold & flu season? On top of Covid? September will probably be safer than January!
Exactly! I mean school in general is a giant petri dish. But, imagine that all the kids are forced to wash their hands, and stuff is actually sanitized throughout the day, and the cafeteria tables have a squirt of sanitizer for everyone before they eat and kids are trained to sneeze and cough in their elbows. Then maybe there wouldn't be 650 kids in the school with a cold at the same time, strep, the stomach virus, the flu, pink eye, and all that jazz! I really hope going forward things change for the better from all of this! I'm still banking on September school being opened. And if it's not, we are moving!
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Re: What do you think the new school year will look like?
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Plus, people cooped up indoors more, more germs being spread in closer quarters. .
Being cooped up indoors huh? Sounds awfully familiar
I can't even deal. And for every Sunny day, we get like 12 rainy ones. I was supposed to leave for California today on a "momcation". Depressing. Although, we have been going to desolate areas to get out. We went to Montauk again this week. Only ones on the beach for hours, and hung out with a super cute seal! 
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Re: What do you think the new school year will look like?
We were thinking of doing Montauk- the beaches are open? You are allowed to walk on them?
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Re: What do you think the new school year will look like?
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If they don't reopen in the fall then I will move to a state where the schools are open. We also own two other properties where we could register our children for school so I would consider relocating to either one of those temporarily. There is no way I will stay on Long Island/in NY if most of the world is open and we are remaining closed. I am starting to hate Cuomo.
Wuhan, where this all started was closed completely for 79 calendar days. When it reopened, schools remained closed. Schools in New York have been closed for 34 school days, (44 calendar days) and New York has been "paused" for 28 business days (37 calendar days).
Watching all the places overseas that have reopened and then watched their numbers rise, and their death tolls increased is heartbreaking. Watching the daily death toll in New York is heartbreaking. I would hate to watch it go back up because we took our foot off the brake without watching where we were going.
My school district will have been closed 180 days by the time the first day of school rolls around if they don’t reopen before this school year is over. That almost 6 months. If we can’t reopen then but the rest of the country is open, I will move. 6 months is a long time to let this play out. They already think over 15% of people have had it and have some immunity.
But have they confirmed that you can't get it again?
No and like the flu people will probably not have lifetime immunity from this. It will be limited immunity for a relatively short period of time. We will have to make a decision as a society if we are willing to live with something like this that can potentially kill you at any time or if we want to stay locked away until they find a vaccine or treatment which could take months but also could take YEARS or potentially never happen.
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Re: What do you think the new school year will look like?
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If they don't reopen in the fall then I will move to a state where the schools are open. We also own two other properties where we could register our children for school so I would consider relocating to either one of those temporarily. There is no way I will stay on Long Island/in NY if most of the world is open and we are remaining closed. I am starting to hate Cuomo.
Wuhan, where this all started was closed completely for 79 calendar days. When it reopened, schools remained closed. Schools in New York have been closed for 34 school days, (44 calendar days) and New York has been "paused" for 28 business days (37 calendar days).
Watching all the places overseas that have reopened and then watched their numbers rise, and their death tolls increased is heartbreaking. Watching the daily death toll in New York is heartbreaking. I would hate to watch it go back up because we took our foot off the brake without watching where we were going.
My school district will have been closed 180 days by the time the first day of school rolls around if they don’t reopen before this school year is over. That almost 6 months. If we can’t reopen then but the rest of the country is open, I will move. 6 months is a long time to let this play out. They already think over 15% of people have had it and have some immunity.
But have they confirmed that you can't get it again?
No and like the flu people will probably not have lifetime immunity from this. It will be limited immunity for a relatively short period of time. We will have to make a decision as a society if we are willing to live with something like this that can potentially kill you at any time or if we want to stay locked away until they find a vaccine or treatment which could take months but also could take YEARS or potentially never happen.
Exactly. Because if you CAN get it again, then what good is a vaccine?
So if that's the case we decide if we let this be what finally destroys our country and our world and continue to hide forever from something that most likely will not kill the great majority who get it- or if we walk amongst it and enjoy whatever time we have left on this earth.
I know what my choice will be
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Re: What do you think the new school year will look like?
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If schools don't reopen in the fall and if kids are still doing online learning, or if they do reopen but kids can only attend certain hours or days and all the extras and specials are cut and staff are cut then why are Long Islanders continuing to pay these insane school taxes? Most of the tax bill is for the schools.
Taxes for LI, NYC, and Westchester will not ever go down, only up. Not only are you paying very high salaries, but health insurance benefits and pension plans for these teachers/ admin cost an absolute fortune. I’m not sure who thought this was sustainable, it’s not.
But at least pre-pandemic every person in the area knew what they were signing up for (mind boggling taxes in exchange for the education system and special needs services - and that includes kids in the classroom 5 days a week every day of the school calendar minus days off ) and they chose to stay and pay. I know many teachers are pouring their hearts into their virtual teaching, but this new online learning in many instances is just busy work. And younger kids aren't able to work independently on a computer for hours. It goes against the very nature of schooling and pedagogy. It may work for high school students. But this has been a mess for everyone, most especially for younger kids, and will continue to be. $15k+ a year for worksheets you can get online for free?
And the reality is that it won't be long before those taxes go up for even less services. (3 days in the classroom, 2 days doing online busy work, no specials, etc) When is enough enough?
Just to be clear, I want to reiterate that my vent is not against teachers but the bureaucracy that is this area of this state.
All of what you are saying is correct. The fixed costs are already very high and will continue higher until something changes. For less service you’ll be paying the same taxes (likely more bc budget cuts) , due to these fixed costs. Worst case scenario is paying for extra childcare, tutoring , or having to quit your job while paying these tax bills. NYS we as a whole are in trouble. Cuomo basically crying poverty in a lot of his talks scares me.
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Re: What do you think the new school year will look like?
Posted by BargainMama
Exactly! I mean school in general is a giant petri dish. But, imagine that all the kids are forced to wash their hands, and stuff is actually sanitized throughout the day, and the cafeteria tables have a squirt of sanitizer for everyone before they eat and kids are trained to sneeze and cough in their elbows. Then maybe there wouldn't be 650 kids in the school with a cold at the same time, strep, the stomach virus, the flu, pink eye, and all that jazz! I really hope going forward things change for the better from all of this! I'm still banking on September school being opened. And if it's not, we are moving!
Funny, I don't remember who it was, but just a few months back a poster asked if she could ask the teacher to wipe down her daughter's desk because she had pink eye. There was one teacher that responded teachers didn't have the time to wipe down desks. I can only imagine what teachers are thinking now. I am sure they will be more than happy to wipe down a desk.
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Re: What do you think the new school year will look like?
Posted by NervousNell
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Posted by RainyDay
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Posted by DancinBarefoot
Posted by lululu
If they don't reopen in the fall then I will move to a state where the schools are open. We also own two other properties where we could register our children for school so I would consider relocating to either one of those temporarily. There is no way I will stay on Long Island/in NY if most of the world is open and we are remaining closed. I am starting to hate Cuomo.
Wuhan, where this all started was closed completely for 79 calendar days. When it reopened, schools remained closed. Schools in New York have been closed for 34 school days, (44 calendar days) and New York has been "paused" for 28 business days (37 calendar days).
Watching all the places overseas that have reopened and then watched their numbers rise, and their death tolls increased is heartbreaking. Watching the daily death toll in New York is heartbreaking. I would hate to watch it go back up because we took our foot off the brake without watching where we were going.
My school district will have been closed 180 days by the time the first day of school rolls around if they don’t reopen before this school year is over. That almost 6 months. If we can’t reopen then but the rest of the country is open, I will move. 6 months is a long time to let this play out. They already think over 15% of people have had it and have some immunity.
But have they confirmed that you can't get it again?
No and like the flu people will probably not have lifetime immunity from this. It will be limited immunity for a relatively short period of time. We will have to make a decision as a society if we are willing to live with something like this that can potentially kill you at any time or if we want to stay locked away until they find a vaccine or treatment which could take months but also could take YEARS or potentially never happen.
Exactly. Because if you CAN get it again, then what good is a vaccine?
So if that's the case we decide if we let this be what finally destroys our country and our world and continue to hide forever from something that most likely will not kill the great majority who get it- or if we walk amongst it and enjoy whatever time we have left on this earth.
I know what my choice will be
It sounds like from some of the reports overseas, you can get it again. They talk about vaccine but that would be ineffective I suppose. So scary but we can’t stay in forever
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Re: What do you think the new school year will look like?
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Exactly! I mean school in general is a giant petri dish. But, imagine that all the kids are forced to wash their hands, and stuff is actually sanitized throughout the day, and the cafeteria tables have a squirt of sanitizer for everyone before they eat and kids are trained to sneeze and cough in their elbows. Then maybe there wouldn't be 650 kids in the school with a cold at the same time, strep, the stomach virus, the flu, pink eye, and all that jazz! I really hope going forward things change for the better from all of this! I'm still banking on September school being opened. And if it's not, we are moving!
Funny, I don't remember who it was, but just a few months back a poster asked if she could ask the teacher to wipe down her daughter's desk because she had pink eye. There was one teacher that responded teachers didn't have the time to wipe down desks. I can only imagine what teachers are thinking now. I am sure they will be more than happy to wipe down a desk.
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Re: What do you think the new school year will look like?
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We were thinking of doing Montauk- the beaches are open? You are allowed to walk on them?
Yup, State Parks and Beaches on LI are open. Hither Hills and the Lighthouse grounds are both open, as is Camp Hero and the other State parks out there. They have restrooms (most other State parks don't have them open). The Lighthouse has cones in every other spot so you can't park right next to someone and to limit capacity. We have only gone on a weekday and it's been super quiet and zero traffic. I wouldn't go on a weekend. I have read it's insanely crowded.
We saw this guy working on his yoga poses 
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Re: What do you think the new school year will look like?
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Posted by Naturalmama
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Posted by Deeluvsvinny
I was talking to a friend who is a NYC teacher (I am in NYC schools too). She said her UFT rep is saying school won't be back to normal until January- then DH (who works in a hospital) said in January, it will be bad again because the virus is expected to upswing again with flu season--- but IDK.
She said the UFT rep said they are talking alternating schedules, lunch in classroom, still doing some remote learning, no specials, masks being worn ..it's a logistical nightmare. For the kids, for the parents, for the teachers...
I honestly would rather Cuomo with his "doom and gloom" rather than giving us false hope. I think he does it because if he says that things are better, people will ignore the rules and we'll have more cases. People are still getting sick. The hospitals are better able to handle cases now- but people are still being infected- even with all the rules in place. All I hear now is "two weeks until life is back to normal somewhat"-- that's not true and if that happens, the infection rate will spike and we'll be right back where we are.
See this is what I m confused about and may be someone can answer me.
Your DH and other medical professionals are saying there will be a spike in January, which, makes perfect sense. It seems regardless there is going to be a spike, there is no avoiding it. If we already started to relieve the stress on the medical community , shouldn’t things start slowly opening up in the summer? I’m obviously not a medical expert, but, wouldn’t it be better to deal with the spike during the summer as opposed to the height of Flu, Strep, and cold season? Let people start building some immunity over the summer who are asymptomatic or have minor symptoms? Especially predominant healthy kids?
Another honest questions, can part of the reason for increase in deaths during this time is because there is a combo of Flu-Strep-Covid illnesses? Like if this happened in the summer would the numbers be the same ?
I find it hard to believe that this year was one of the worse for strep & flu, and now all sudden you don’t hear anything about it. Like flu and strep just took a step back to let Covid have it’s moment.
I think any illness spikes in the winter months though. Your body's storage of Vitamin D from the Summer sunshine is depleted, and you can't fight off illness as easily. That's why the flu season isn't a thing in the Summer from what I've researched over the years. Vitamin D plays a vital role. Plus, people cooped up indoors more, more germs being spread in closer quarters. So yes, I think it will spike again, just like flu season does. But, maybe more people will wash their hands frequently, and still continue to practice the good hygiene they have learned from all of this! Thus, making it not AS bad.
Yes, which is why I laugh when all of these school officials mention January as being the magic month when schools can reopen. At the height of cold & flu season? On top of Covid? September will probably be safer than January!
Exactly! I mean school in general is a giant petri dish. But, imagine that all the kids are forced to wash their hands, and stuff is actually sanitized throughout the day, and the cafeteria tables have a squirt of sanitizer for everyone before they eat and kids are trained to sneeze and cough in their elbows. Then maybe there wouldn't be 650 kids in the school with a cold at the same time, strep, the stomach virus, the flu, pink eye, and all that jazz! I really hope going forward things change for the better from all of this! I'm still banking on September school being opened. And if it's not, we are moving!
Ok I thought I was missing something. Everyone is mentioning January as a possibility to open the economy and aside from that not being feasible for our country’s sake, it just didn’t make sense to start doing it during the height of cold season.
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Re: What do you think the new school year will look like?
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We were thinking of doing Montauk- the beaches are open? You are allowed to walk on them?
Yup, State Parks and Beaches on LI are open. Hither Hills and the Lighthouse grounds are both open, as is Camp Hero and the other State parks out there. They have restrooms (most other State parks don't have them open). The Lighthouse has cones in every other spot so you can't park right next to someone and to limit capacity. We have only gone on a weekday and it's been super quiet and zero traffic. I wouldn't go on a weekend. I have read it's insanely crowded.
We saw this guy working on his yoga poses IMAGE
OMG how adorable! Love it!!
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Re: What do you think the new school year will look like?
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We were thinking of doing Montauk- the beaches are open? You are allowed to walk on them?
Yup, State Parks and Beaches on LI are open. Hither Hills and the Lighthouse grounds are both open, as is Camp Hero and the other State parks out there. They have restrooms (most other State parks don't have them open). The Lighthouse has cones in every other spot so you can't park right next to someone and to limit capacity. We have only gone on a weekday and it's been super quiet and zero traffic. I wouldn't go on a weekend. I have read it's insanely crowded.
We saw this guy working on his yoga poses IMAGE
Omg 
I love your pics and I should go workout with him lol.
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Re: What do you think the new school year will look like?
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If schools don't reopen in the fall and if kids are still doing online learning, or if they do reopen but kids can only attend certain hours or days and all the extras and specials are cut and staff are cut then why are Long Islanders continuing to pay these insane school taxes? Most of the tax bill is for the schools.
Taxes for LI, NYC, and Westchester will not ever go down, only up. Not only are you paying very high salaries, but health insurance benefits and pension plans for these teachers/ admin cost an absolute fortune. I’m not sure who thought this was sustainable, it’s not.
But at least pre-pandemic every person in the area knew what they were signing up for (mind boggling taxes in exchange for the education system and special needs services - and that includes kids in the classroom 5 days a week every day of the school calendar minus days off ) and they chose to stay and pay. I know many teachers are pouring their hearts into their virtual teaching, but this new online learning in many instances is just busy work. And younger kids aren't able to work independently on a computer for hours. It goes against the very nature of schooling and pedagogy. It may work for high school students. But this has been a mess for everyone, most especially for younger kids, and will continue to be. $15k+ a year for worksheets you can get online for free?
And the reality is that it won't be long before those taxes go up for even less services. (3 days in the classroom, 2 days doing online busy work, no specials, etc) When is enough enough?
Just to be clear, I want to reiterate that my vent is not against teachers but the bureaucracy that is this area of this state.
All of what you are saying is correct. The fixed costs are already very high and will continue higher until something changes. For less service you’ll be paying the same taxes (likely more bc budget cuts) , due to these fixed costs. Worst case scenario is paying for extra childcare, tutoring , or having to quit your job while paying these tax bills. NYS we as a whole are in trouble. Cuomo basically crying poverty in a lot of his talks scares me.
Exactly. Maybe we should just hand over our entire paycheck to appease the tax Gods. But will it be enough? Might have to give blood too.
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