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nycbuslady
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Inclusion Kindergarten
There's no need to worry. All it means is that there are 2 teachers and more aides than the regular class. I feel like all the students get extra attention. I'm sure it will be a good year.
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| Posted 9/3/17 5:46 PM |
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Re: Inclusion Kindergarten
Posted by RoadRunner
I just found out that my DC's Kindergarten class is an inclusion class. Needless to say, I am not thrilled. Can anyone share their experiences? My worries include the impact of negative behaviors on the classroom setting and that my child will be lost in the shuffle. My DC can read, had a good grasp on math and is extremely eager to learn high level concepts. I want him challenged and I'm afraid that this may not happen in this setting.
Eager to hear your thoughts!
Needless to say? You can be a bit more sensitive to those of us whose children are the riffraff that you are speaking so disdainfully of. Inclusion can be a great concept and a benefit to both typical children and children with an IEP. It's not supposed to be a dumping ground for children with bad behaviors. That said, not every district does it right. Maybe ask some people more familiar with the specific structure of your particular school. I've had both my typical children and my child with special needs in inclusion and have been happy. There are definitely undiagnosed behaviorial children in general ed, as well as children in search of "high level concepts" in inclusion.
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RoadRunner
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Re: Inclusion Kindergarten
Posted by Hopefulmama
Posted by RoadRunner
I just found out that my DC's Kindergarten class is an inclusion class. Needless to say, I am not thrilled. Can anyone share their experiences? My worries include the impact of negative behaviors on the classroom setting and that my child will be lost in the shuffle. My DC can read, had a good grasp on math and is extremely eager to learn high level concepts. I want him challenged and I'm afraid that this may not happen in this setting.
Eager to hear your thoughts!
Needless to say? You can be a bit more sensitive to those of us whose children are the riffraff that you are speaking so disdainfully of. Inclusion can be a great concept and a benefit to both typical children and children with an IEP. It's not supposed to be a dumping ground for children with bad behaviors. That said, not every district does it right. Maybe ask some people more familiar with the specific structure of your particular school. I've had both my typical children and my child with special needs in inclusion and have been happy. There are definitely undiagnosed behaviorial children in general ed, as well as children in search of "high level concepts" in inclusion.
That's my concern. Not every teacher or district does it right. This is my first child going through school and I don't know what to expect. I want my child challenged and pushed to his potential instead of falling through the cracks in a class where many other needs may need to be addressed.
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BargainMama
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Re: Inclusion Kindergarten
Scroll down and you will see lots of responses to a similar post.
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| Posted 9/3/17 7:22 PM |
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BargainMama
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Re: Inclusion Kindergarten
Here you go ;)
http://www.lifamilies.com/chat/topic-inclusion-classes-889881-1.html
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| Posted 9/3/17 7:23 PM |
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My daughter was in K last year, and from my experience, your bigger concern is the kids who are not in inclusion because their parents don't want them classified. Those are the classes were kids get lost, and not challenged.
Inclusion classes follow the same curriculum and timeline, so not sure where you are getting the information that your child won't be challenged.
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Re: Inclusion Kindergarten
Posted by RoadRunner
I just found out that my DC's Kindergarten class is an inclusion class. Needless to say, I am not thrilled. Can anyone share their experiences? My worries include the impact of negative behaviors on the classroom setting and that my child will be lost in the shuffle. My DC can read, had a good grasp on math and is extremely eager to learn high level concepts. I want him challenged and I'm afraid that this may not happen in this setting.
Eager to hear your thoughts!
Inclusion settings are great for all involved. You get the benefit of 2 full time teachers and most likely an aide in the class to help out. Your child will most likely be getting more one on one time with the teacher than other classes due to this. All teachers want all children to be challenged no matter what the setting. Also, being in a inclusion class will help foster empathy and acceptance to those that are different which is what is needed in this world today. As far as negative behaviors, the children that are classified in that class most likely already have behavior plans in place and the special education teacher will be administering that for them. I'd be more concerned about the behaviors from the Gen Ed students. I would be thankful if my child was in inclusion.
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| Posted 9/3/17 10:10 PM |
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I also found out recently that my DD will be in an inclusion 1st grade class this year. I didn't know much about it, so I did some research and talked to my teacher friends. They all said it is a great experience because of the attention of 2 teachers and that the class follows the same curriculum as the other classes. They also said they would even want their own kids in an inclusion class.
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Re: Inclusion Kindergarten
Posted by RoadRunner
Posted by Hopefulmama
Posted by RoadRunner
I just found out that my DC's Kindergarten class is an inclusion class. Needless to say, I am not thrilled. Can anyone share their experiences? My worries include the impact of negative behaviors on the classroom setting and that my child will be lost in the shuffle. My DC can read, had a good grasp on math and is extremely eager to learn high level concepts. I want him challenged and I'm afraid that this may not happen in this setting.
Eager to hear your thoughts!
Needless to say? You can be a bit more sensitive to those of us whose children are the riffraff that you are speaking so disdainfully of. Inclusion can be a great concept and a benefit to both typical children and children with an IEP. It's not supposed to be a dumping ground for children with bad behaviors. That said, not every district does it right. Maybe ask some people more familiar with the specific structure of your particular school. I've had both my typical children and my child with special needs in inclusion and have been happy. There are definitely undiagnosed behaviorial children in general ed, as well as children in search of "high level concepts" in inclusion.
That's my concern. Not every teacher or district does it right. This is my first child going through school and I don't know what to expect. I want my child challenged and pushed to his potential instead of falling through the cracks in a class where many other needs may need to be addressed.
I think it's K and you can relax a little.
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jamnmore
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Inclusion Kindergarten
Also please keep this information in mind -
An inclusion class will have 30 students in it (this is an example and will vary based on school district) with 2 teachers. 15 students will be IEP students and 15 students will be non IEP students. So, in a way, the student teacher ratio is 15:1. There may also be aides in the classroom, again depending on district and composition of the students needs. A child in an inclusion class will receive more attention than in a typical classroom of 30 students and 1 teacher.
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| Posted 9/5/17 11:10 AM |
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DS 1 hasn't been in an inclusion class (there isn't one for his grade) but, has been with a lot of kids who aren't well behaved - you can't lump in kids who need extra assistance learning with ones who are poorly behaved.
DS 2 could've been placed in one and I was upset that he wasn't. The teachers are phenomenal and i think he could have benefited from having 2 teachers and a TA.
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NervousNell
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Re: Inclusion Kindergarten
Posted by Straightarrow
Posted by RoadRunner
Posted by Hopefulmama
Posted by RoadRunner
I just found out that my DC's Kindergarten class is an inclusion class. Needless to say, I am not thrilled. Can anyone share their experiences? My worries include the impact of negative behaviors on the classroom setting and that my child will be lost in the shuffle. My DC can read, had a good grasp on math and is extremely eager to learn high level concepts. I want him challenged and I'm afraid that this may not happen in this setting.
Eager to hear your thoughts!
Needless to say? You can be a bit more sensitive to those of us whose children are the riffraff that you are speaking so disdainfully of. Inclusion can be a great concept and a benefit to both typical children and children with an IEP. It's not supposed to be a dumping ground for children with bad behaviors. That said, not every district does it right. Maybe ask some people more familiar with the specific structure of your particular school. I've had both my typical children and my child with special needs in inclusion and have been happy. There are definitely undiagnosed behaviorial children in general ed, as well as children in search of "high level concepts" in inclusion.
That's my concern. Not every teacher or district does it right. This is my first child going through school and I don't know what to expect. I want my child challenged and pushed to his potential instead of falling through the cracks in a class where many other needs may need to be addressed.
I think it's K and you can relax a little.
This.
I am not sure what "high level concepts" you think they are going to teach in K.
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My son is in an inclusion class because he is dyslexic. They have twenty kids and two teachers. There are no problem kids in his class, rather the problem kids are lumped with one teacher in a different class to not distrub the kids who might need additional instruction. If you really think your kid needs high level of instruction, send him to private school, get a one on one tutor, or Long Island school for the gifted. With that said, it is kindergarten. You really ought to think before you write because what you wrote is really offensive.
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Re: Inclusion Kindergarten
Posted by NervousNell
Posted by Straightarrow
Posted by RoadRunner
Posted by Hopefulmama
Posted by RoadRunner
I just found out that my DC's Kindergarten class is an inclusion class. Needless to say, I am not thrilled. Can anyone share their experiences? My worries include the impact of negative behaviors on the classroom setting and that my child will be lost in the shuffle. My DC can read, had a good grasp on math and is extremely eager to learn high level concepts. I want him challenged and I'm afraid that this may not happen in this setting.
Eager to hear your thoughts!
Needless to say? You can be a bit more sensitive to those of us whose children are the riffraff that you are speaking so disdainfully of. Inclusion can be a great concept and a benefit to both typical children and children with an IEP. It's not supposed to be a dumping ground for children with bad behaviors. That said, not every district does it right. Maybe ask some people more familiar with the specific structure of your particular school. I've had both my typical children and my child with special needs in inclusion and have been happy. There are definitely undiagnosed behaviorial children in general ed, as well as children in search of "high level concepts" in inclusion.
That's my concern. Not every teacher or district does it right. This is my first child going through school and I don't know what to expect. I want my child challenged and pushed to his potential instead of falling through the cracks in a class where many other needs may need to be addressed.
I think it's K and you can relax a little.
This.
I am not sure what "high level concepts" you think they are going to teach in K.
Your daughter's class didn't have the unit on advanced astrophysics ?!?!?!
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jamnmore
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Re: Inclusion Kindergarten
Posted by LSP2005
My son is in an inclusion class because he is dyslexic. They have twenty kids and two teachers. There are no problem kids in his class, rather the problem kids are lumped with one teacher in a different class to not distrub the kids who might need additional instruction. If you really think your kid needs high level of instruction, send him to private school, get a one on one tutor, or Long Island school for the gifted. With that said, it is kindergarten. You really ought to think before you write because what you wrote is really offensive.
Thank you. Well said. I have a son in a self contained classroom. He has behavioral issues and that is why he is there. He is going into 1st grade and reading on a 2nd grade level and doing 3rd grade math. Academically he exceeds every expectation.
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NervousNell
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Re: Inclusion Kindergarten
Posted by Katareen
Posted by NervousNell
Posted by Straightarrow
Posted by RoadRunner
Posted by Hopefulmama
Posted by RoadRunner
I just found out that my DC's Kindergarten class is an inclusion class. Needless to say, I am not thrilled. Can anyone share their experiences? My worries include the impact of negative behaviors on the classroom setting and that my child will be lost in the shuffle. My DC can read, had a good grasp on math and is extremely eager to learn high level concepts. I want him challenged and I'm afraid that this may not happen in this setting.
Eager to hear your thoughts!
Needless to say? You can be a bit more sensitive to those of us whose children are the riffraff that you are speaking so disdainfully of. Inclusion can be a great concept and a benefit to both typical children and children with an IEP. It's not supposed to be a dumping ground for children with bad behaviors. That said, not every district does it right. Maybe ask some people more familiar with the specific structure of your particular school. I've had both my typical children and my child with special needs in inclusion and have been happy. There are definitely undiagnosed behaviorial children in general ed, as well as children in search of "high level concepts" in inclusion.
That's my concern. Not every teacher or district does it right. This is my first child going through school and I don't know what to expect. I want my child challenged and pushed to his potential instead of falling through the cracks in a class where many other needs may need to be addressed.
I think it's K and you can relax a little.
This.
I am not sure what "high level concepts" you think they are going to teach in K.
Your daughter's class didn't have the ut snit on advanced astrophysics ?!?!?!
She must have been out sick that day. She aced Organic Chem 1 and 2 though so I'm so grateful she didn't have an of those inclusion kids with behavioral issues in her class!
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Posted by NervousNell
Posted by Katareen
Posted by NervousNell
Posted by Straightarrow
Posted by RoadRunner
Posted by Hopefulmama
Posted by RoadRunner
I just found out that my DC's Kindergarten class is an inclusion class. Needless to say, I am not thrilled. Can anyone share their experiences? My worries include the impact of negative behaviors on the classroom setting and that my child will be lost in the shuffle. My DC can read, had a good grasp on math and is extremely eager to learn high level concepts. I want him challenged and I'm afraid that this may not happen in this setting.
Eager to hear your thoughts!
Needless to say? You can be a bit more sensitive to those of us whose children are the riffraff that you are speaking so disdainfully of. Inclusion can be a great concept and a benefit to both typical children and children with an IEP. It's not supposed to be a dumping ground for children with bad behaviors. That said, not every district does it right. Maybe ask some people more familiar with the specific structure of your particular school. I've had both my typical children and my child with special needs in inclusion and have been happy. There are definitely undiagnosed behaviorial children in general ed, as well as children in search of "high level concepts" in inclusion.
That's my concern. Not every teacher or district does it right. This is my first child going through school and I don't know what to expect. I want my child challenged and pushed to his potential instead of falling through the cracks in a class where many other needs may need to be addressed.
I think it's K and you can relax a little.
This.
I am not sure what "high level concepts" you think they are going to teach in K.
Your daughter's class didn't have the ut snit on advanced astrophysics ?!?!?!
She must have been out sick that day. She aced Organic Chem 1 and 2 though so I'm so grateful she didn't have an of those inclusion kids with behavioral issues in her class!
Not to mention....behavioral issues have nothing to do with academic aptitude. Brilliant kids can have behavioral issues....or other issues...or none at all
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To the OP, despite the backlash from all the special needs parents on this thread I wanted say that your concerns are 100% valid. Having an 8th and 5th grader I have been in this situation several times. The key is you have to advocate for your child to be challenged just as much as the IEP parents advocate for their children. Often the brighter children are used as buddies/role models/leaders for the slower ones which is ok but you have to ensure your child's needs are being met to. In K-2 this setup is usually beneficial to all but later on gets more complex. Good Luck and dont let the responses here affect you advocating for your child!
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To the OP, despite the backlash from all the special needs parents on this thread I wanted say that your concerns are 100% valid. Having an 8th and 5th grader I have been in this situation several times. The key is you have to advocate for your child to be challenged just as much as the IEP parents advocate for their children. Often the brighter children are used as buddies/role models/leaders for the slower ones which is ok but you have to ensure your child's needs are being met to. In K-2 this setup is usually beneficial to all but later on gets more complex. Good Luck and dont let the responses here affect you advocating for your child!
She's getting backlash for her assumption that inclusion classes are just dreadful and will stunt her bright child's academic growth...in Kindergarten. But I will agree that there is so much gray area here.
And for the record I am not a "special needs parent". I have no special needs as a parent, I am completely typical. As are my children ;)
Also for the record, I am not easily offended, nor do I feel the need to be PC...ever.
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Posted by curley999
To the OP, despite the backlash from all the special needs parents on this thread I wanted say that your concerns are 100% valid. Having an 8th and 5th grader I have been in this situation several times. The key is you have to advocate for your child to be challenged just as much as the IEP parents advocate for their children. Often the brighter children are used as buddies/role models/leaders for the slower ones which is ok but you have to ensure your child's needs are being met to. In K-2 this setup is usually beneficial to all but later on gets more complex. Good Luck and dont let the responses here affect you advocating for your child!
She's getting backlash for her assumption that inclusion classes are just dreadful and will stunt her bright child's academic growth...in Kindergarten. But I will agree that there is so much gray area here.
And for the record I am not a "special needs parent". I have no special needs as a parent, I am completely typical. As are my children ;)
Also for the record, I am not easily offended, nor do I feel the need to be PC...ever.
I agree.
My DD doesn't even have an inclusion class in her grade, but if she did, I wouldn't mind her being in it at all.
And she is "Very bright" as well. (aren't ALL our kids? )
I just could see how very offensive this post sounded from the start. I actually cringed reading it.
And I'm not PC even a little.
But you don't have to PC to have tact and compassion for others.
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It's sad to see that an inclusion class is assumed to be a negative thing.
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NervousNell
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It's sad to see that an inclusion class is assumed to be a negative thing.
Like most other things, it's based on ignorance
People don't even know what it is, what it entails, have never had a kid in one, yet they are quick to jump to conclusions.
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But you don't have to PC to have tact and compassion for others.
THIS times a million! I happen to have both a "very bright" and "exceptional" typical child as well as a special needs one and some of the comments on these inclusion threads have been incredibly disheartening.
And referring to kids as slow really just rubs me the wrong way. Maybe that makes me sound "PC" but I'd dare someone to say that about my son to my face.
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Posted by NervousNell
But you don't have to PC to have tact and compassion for others.
THIS times a million! I happen to have both a "very bright" and "exceptional" typical child as well as a special needs one and some of the comments on these inclusion threads have been incredibly disheartening.
And referring to kids as slow really just rubs me the wrong way. Maybe that makes me sound "PC" but I'd dare someone to say that about my son to my face.
I have one of each also, and I really can't stand the "slow" comments. It's so disgusting.
As a side note, my son is 18 now, so I was applying for various things for him since he is an adult with a disability. One of the notices I received for an independent medical evaluation said I need to bring him in to be seen for his "thinking problem". Thinking problem?! How about you just write Autism. Or special needs. Or developmental disability. But they write "thinking problem". I gave them a piece of my mind about that one. I thought that was pretty insulting to say the least!
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