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Raging2020
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Re: 1,000's of Americans still stranded

Posted by JennP

Posted by Raging2020

Posted by blu6385

I’m going to make this comment again. Cause no one has yet to tell me Why did trump make a deal with the Taliban if they are such horrible people?!!!

Why are the Taliban not letting people leave???!!

This whole situation baffles me. What exactly was in this deal??



If trump was given the opportunity to carry out his deal I can guarantee you that we wouldn’t be in the shape we are now!

They wouldn’t have our military supplies.

Our marines wouldn’t have been killed.

People wouldn’t have been rushing planes at the airport.


This was a disaster. Biden was so quick to undo everything trump did….except this?!?!

This guy is an idiot.



No.

The Taliban took over because after the deal was made that EXCLUDED the actual Afghan government the provincial leaders saw the writing on the wall and made deals with the Taliban to save their own heads. They had already started to fold before Biden even took office. It was just a matter of when. And don't even get me start on all the Taliban he had released. What a joke.

Trump sold us out. I applaud exiting Afghanistan but NOT the way he did it. Biden was in a no win situation. I don't claim it was all done perfectly but I am relieved to be out of a twenty year war.

Now we as an international community need to hold Afghanistan accountable the way we should hold all dictatorships accountable.



It’s a double edged sword. Having a presence there gave us a sense of security for the last 20 years

Posted 9/2/21 6:43 PM
 

JennP
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Re: 1,000's of Americans still stranded

Posted by blu6385

I’m going to make this comment again. Cause no one has yet to tell me Why did trump make a deal with the Taliban if they are such horrible people?!!!

Why are the Taliban not letting people leave???!!

This whole situation baffles me. What exactly was in this deal??



Good questions. I think the dealing with them appealed to Trump because of his tendency to pander to "strongmen" - his first foreign trip was to Saudi Arabia, a country with a terrible human rights record. But the presidency was always about making money for him, so that governed most of his decisions, and he has many business interests there. So dealing with the Taliban went along with that.

It also goes along with his general "isolationist" approach which pulled America away from much of our world interactions, for better or worse.

It's also a plan that had bipartisan support.

Dictatorships often don't let people leave, or least make it difficult. If people know what it's like elsewhere they might not want to go back plus then they can speak to journalists freely.

Posted 9/2/21 6:49 PM
 

JennP
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Re: 1,000's of Americans still stranded

Posted by Raging2020

Posted by JennP

Posted by Raging2020

Posted by blu6385

I’m going to make this comment again. Cause no one has yet to tell me Why did trump make a deal with the Taliban if they are such horrible people?!!!

Why are the Taliban not letting people leave???!!

This whole situation baffles me. What exactly was in this deal??



If trump was given the opportunity to carry out his deal I can guarantee you that we wouldn’t be in the shape we are now!

They wouldn’t have our military supplies.

Our marines wouldn’t have been killed.

People wouldn’t have been rushing planes at the airport.


This was a disaster. Biden was so quick to undo everything trump did….except this?!?!

This guy is an idiot.



No.

The Taliban took over because after the deal was made that EXCLUDED the actual Afghan government the provincial leaders saw the writing on the wall and made deals with the Taliban to save their own heads. They had already started to fold before Biden even took office. It was just a matter of when. And don't even get me start on all the Taliban he had released. What a joke.

Trump sold us out. I applaud exiting Afghanistan but NOT the way he did it. Biden was in a no win situation. I don't claim it was all done perfectly but I am relieved to be out of a twenty year war.

Now we as an international community need to hold Afghanistan accountable the way we should hold all dictatorships accountable.



It’s a double edged sword. Having a presence there gave us a sense of security for the last 20 years



I think the families of the 2k+ servicemembers killed along with the millions of Americans who have suffered in ways that could have been alleviated by the trillions that we chose to spend there would disagree with you.

Forever war is not the answer. Let's invest in our own people and society instead - education, health care, training, a strong social safety net for people who really need it, etc.

Posted 9/2/21 6:54 PM
 

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Re: 1,000's of Americans still stranded

Posted by Hofstra26

Posted by jellybean78

The last administration had a president that was able to string together coherent sentences, not lie in front of the press and blatantly throw his administration under the the bus.



You cannot be serious with this comment.
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Trump was a babbling, incoherent, lying, sack of $hit who threw EVERYONE under the bus and who literally blamed everyone around him for his failures and shortcomings as president.

Clearly you weren't paying attention AT ALL for four years.



No I have been paying attention for a long time. Have you? Put your hate for Trump aside, have you recently listened to any press conference or watched our current administration? How can you even defend the foolishness that is spewed. It's a global embarrassment. You have to be dumb and blind not to see it. I'm not trying to pretend Trump was some eloquent savior but compared to Biden, at least Trump was coherent. Biden has taken 0 responsibility for anything that has happened. He doesn't even make sense 99% of the time. He gave his VP the worst job ever and she's MIA, can't even answer legit questions, his statements contradict those of his administration...a total laughing stock.

ETA: Some of ya'll spent the last 4 years bitchiing and complaining every.single.day about Trump and how he's ruining our country..the outrage. Now you are all silent and just care about baking cookies. lmao..I can't even with the hypocrisy.


Admit i. You all got played and voted for a senile fool who has spent 50 years in politics with 0 accomplishments and still is not taken seriously all because you hated Trump. Own it. This administration is a JOKE...at this rate God help us because we are absolutely a global joke and no one thinks this senile ole fool is in control of anything. His son is an admitted crackhead and he can't even keep his eyes open long enough to hear his name being called. SMDH.

Message edited 9/2/2021 10:46:29 PM.

Posted 9/2/21 10:40 PM
 

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Re: 1,000's of Americans still stranded

Posted by Raging2020

Posted by blu6385

I’m going to make this comment again. Cause no one has yet to tell me Why did trump make a deal with the Taliban if they are such horrible people?!!!

Why are the Taliban not letting people leave???!!

This whole situation baffles me. What exactly was in this deal??



If trump was given the opportunity to carry out his deal I can guarantee you that we wouldn’t be in the shape we are now!

They wouldn’t have our military supplies.

Our marines wouldn’t have been killed.

People wouldn’t have been rushing planes at the airport.


This was a disaster. Biden was so quick to undo everything trump did….except this?!?!

This guy is an idiot.



Exactly! So Biden undid everything else Trump did except this...come on man...tell me you really don't believe that he did it for the greater good. GTFOH

You all are so delusional that you won't even admit that BIDEN and his administration made some horrible decisions that cost 13 service members and hundres of Afghans their lives. You are so blinded by your Trump hatred that you can't even open your eyes enough to see what's really going on. What a joke.

Posted 9/2/21 10:44 PM
 

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Re: 1,000's of Americans still stranded

Posted by jellybean78

Posted by Hofstra26

Posted by jellybean78

The last administration had a president that was able to string together coherent sentences, not lie in front of the press and blatantly throw his administration under the the bus.



You cannot be serious with this comment.
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Trump was a babbling, incoherent, lying, sack of $hit who threw EVERYONE under the bus and who literally blamed everyone around him for his failures and shortcomings as president.

Clearly you weren't paying attention AT ALL for four years.



No I have been paying attention for a long time. Have you? Put your hate for Trump aside, have you recently listened to any press conference or watched our current administration? How can you even defend the foolishness that is spewed. It's a global embarrassment. You have to be dumb and blind not to see it. I'm not trying to pretend Trump was some eloquent savior but compared to Biden, at least Trump was coherent. Biden has taken 0 responsibility for anything that has happened. He doesn't even make sense 99% of the time. He gave his VP the worst job ever and she's MIA, can't even answer legit questions, his statements contradict those of his administration...a total laughing stock.

ETA: Some of ya'll spent the last 4 years bitchiing and complaining every.single.day about Trump and how he's ruining our country..the outrage. Now you are all silent and just care about baking cookies. lmao..I can't even with the hypocrisy.


Admit i. You all got played and voted for a senile fool who has spent 50 years in politics with 0 accomplishments and still is not taken seriously all because you hated Trump. Own it. This administration is a JOKE...at this rate God help us because we are absolutely a global joke and no one thinks this senile ole fool is in control of anything. His son is an admitted crackhead and he can't even keep his eyes open long enough to hear his name being called. SMDH.




I’m not even going to address the rest of what you said. But may you or someone you love never have to deal with a drug or alcohol disorder. You don't make fun of them and call them a “crackhead.” They don’t needs stigmas and names called at them; they need help.

Message edited 9/3/2021 4:45:11 AM.

Posted 9/3/21 4:43 AM
 

windyweather21
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Re: 1,000's of Americans still stranded

Posted by jellybean78

Posted by Hofstra26

Posted by jellybean78

The last administration had a president that was able to string together coherent sentences, not lie in front of the press and blatantly throw his administration under the the bus.



You cannot be serious with this comment.
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Trump was a babbling, incoherent, lying, sack of $hit who threw EVERYONE under the bus and who literally blamed everyone around him for his failures and shortcomings as president.

Clearly you weren't paying attention AT ALL for four years.



No I have been paying attention for a long time. Have you? Put your hate for Trump aside, have you recently listened to any press conference or watched our current administration? How can you even defend the foolishness that is spewed. It's a global embarrassment. You have to be dumb and blind not to see it. I'm not trying to pretend Trump was some eloquent savior but compared to Biden, at least Trump was coherent. Biden has taken 0 responsibility for anything that has happened. He doesn't even make sense 99% of the time. He gave his VP the worst job ever and she's MIA, can't even answer legit questions, his statements contradict those of his administration...a total laughing stock.

ETA: Some of ya'll spent the last 4 years bitchiing and complaining every.single.day about Trump and how he's ruining our country..the outrage. Now you are all silent and just care about baking cookies. lmao..I can't even with the hypocrisy.


Admit i. You all got played and voted for a senile fool who has spent 50 years in politics with 0 accomplishments and still is not taken seriously all because you hated Trump. Own it. This administration is a JOKE...at this rate God help us because we are absolutely a global joke and no one thinks this senile ole fool is in control of anything. His son is an admitted crackhead and he can't even keep his eyes open long enough to hear his name being called. SMDH.




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Posted 9/3/21 6:55 AM
 

windyweather21
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Re: 1,000's of Americans still stranded

Posted by jellybean78

Posted by Raging2020

Posted by blu6385

I’m going to make this comment again. Cause no one has yet to tell me Why did trump make a deal with the Taliban if they are such horrible people?!!!

Why are the Taliban not letting people leave???!!

This whole situation baffles me. What exactly was in this deal??



If trump was given the opportunity to carry out his deal I can guarantee you that we wouldn’t be in the shape we are now!

They wouldn’t have our military supplies.

Our marines wouldn’t have been killed.

People wouldn’t have been rushing planes at the airport.


This was a disaster. Biden was so quick to undo everything trump did….except this?!?!

This guy is an idiot.



Exactly! So Biden undid everything else Trump did except this...come on man...tell me you really don't believe that he did it for the greater good. GTFOH

You all are so delusional that you won't even admit that BIDEN and his administration made some horrible decisions that cost 13 service members and hundres of Afghans their lives. You are so blinded by your Trump hatred that you can't even open your eyes enough to see what's really going on. What a joke.



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Posted 9/3/21 6:56 AM
 

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Re: 1,000's of Americans still stranded

Posted by klingklang77

Posted by jellybean78

Posted by Hofstra26

Posted by jellybean78

The last administration had a president that was able to string together coherent sentences, not lie in front of the press and blatantly throw his administration under the the bus.



You cannot be serious with this comment.
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Trump was a babbling, incoherent, lying, sack of $hit who threw EVERYONE under the bus and who literally blamed everyone around him for his failures and shortcomings as president.

Clearly you weren't paying attention AT ALL for four years.



No I have been paying attention for a long time. Have you? Put your hate for Trump aside, have you recently listened to any press conference or watched our current administration? How can you even defend the foolishness that is spewed. It's a global embarrassment. You have to be dumb and blind not to see it. I'm not trying to pretend Trump was some eloquent savior but compared to Biden, at least Trump was coherent. Biden has taken 0 responsibility for anything that has happened. He doesn't even make sense 99% of the time. He gave his VP the worst job ever and she's MIA, can't even answer legit questions, his statements contradict those of his administration...a total laughing stock.

ETA: Some of ya'll spent the last 4 years bitchiing and complaining every.single.day about Trump and how he's ruining our country..the outrage. Now you are all silent and just care about baking cookies. lmao..I can't even with the hypocrisy.


Admit i. You all got played and voted for a senile fool who has spent 50 years in politics with 0 accomplishments and still is not taken seriously all because you hated Trump. Own it. This administration is a JOKE...at this rate God help us because we are absolutely a global joke and no one thinks this senile ole fool is in control of anything. His son is an admitted crackhead and he can't even keep his eyes open long enough to hear his name being called. SMDH.




I’m not even going to address the rest of what you said. But may you or someone you love never have to deal with a drug or alcohol disorder. You don't make fun of them and call them a “crackhead.” They don’t needs stigmas and names called at them; they need help.



Why won’t you address the rest of the post? Because you know it is true?
Oh and he IS a crackhead. You are acting like his parents that coddle him.

Posted 9/3/21 6:58 AM
 

klingklang77
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Re: 1,000's of Americans still stranded

Posted by windyweather21

Posted by klingklang77

Posted by jellybean78

Posted by Hofstra26

Posted by jellybean78

The last administration had a president that was able to string together coherent sentences, not lie in front of the press and blatantly throw his administration under the the bus.



You cannot be serious with this comment.
Chat Icon Chat Icon Chat Icon Chat Icon

Trump was a babbling, incoherent, lying, sack of $hit who threw EVERYONE under the bus and who literally blamed everyone around him for his failures and shortcomings as president.

Clearly you weren't paying attention AT ALL for four years.



No I have been paying attention for a long time. Have you? Put your hate for Trump aside, have you recently listened to any press conference or watched our current administration? How can you even defend the foolishness that is spewed. It's a global embarrassment. You have to be dumb and blind not to see it. I'm not trying to pretend Trump was some eloquent savior but compared to Biden, at least Trump was coherent. Biden has taken 0 responsibility for anything that has happened. He doesn't even make sense 99% of the time. He gave his VP the worst job ever and she's MIA, can't even answer legit questions, his statements contradict those of his administration...a total laughing stock.

ETA: Some of ya'll spent the last 4 years bitchiing and complaining every.single.day about Trump and how he's ruining our country..the outrage. Now you are all silent and just care about baking cookies. lmao..I can't even with the hypocrisy.


Admit i. You all got played and voted for a senile fool who has spent 50 years in politics with 0 accomplishments and still is not taken seriously all because you hated Trump. Own it. This administration is a JOKE...at this rate God help us because we are absolutely a global joke and no one thinks this senile ole fool is in control of anything. His son is an admitted crackhead and he can't even keep his eyes open long enough to hear his name being called. SMDH.




I’m not even going to address the rest of what you said. But may you or someone you love never have to deal with a drug or alcohol disorder. You don't make fun of them and call them a “crackhead.” They don’t needs stigmas and names called at them; they need help.



Why won’t you address the rest of the post? Because you know it is true?
Oh and he IS a crackhead. You are acting like his parents that coddle him.



I don’t owe anyone a response to what I don’t want to respond to. It’s not that I believe it is true or not.

Maybe you should learn that the terms ‘alcoholic’ and ‘crackhead’ are not acceptable and they have been taken out of the DSM. It’s not coddling. It is called giving those with a drug use disorder appropriate treatment.

I mean you wouldn’t like it very much if your child was called a term not used anymore because of, say ADHD, now would you?

https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/all-about-addiction/201809/never-call-someone-alcoholic-or-addict

Posted 9/3/21 7:33 AM
 

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Re: 1,000's of Americans still stranded

Posted by jellybean78

Posted by Hofstra26

Posted by jellybean78

The last administration had a president that was able to string together coherent sentences, not lie in front of the press and blatantly throw his administration under the the bus.



You cannot be serious with this comment.
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Trump was a babbling, incoherent, lying, sack of $hit who threw EVERYONE under the bus and who literally blamed everyone around him for his failures and shortcomings as president.

Clearly you weren't paying attention AT ALL for four years.



No I have been paying attention for a long time. Have you? Put your hate for Trump aside, have you recently listened to any press conference or watched our current administration? How can you even defend the foolishness that is spewed. It's a global embarrassment. You have to be dumb and blind not to see it. I'm not trying to pretend Trump was some eloquent savior but compared to Biden, at least Trump was coherent. Biden has taken 0 responsibility for anything that has happened. He doesn't even make sense 99% of the time. He gave his VP the worst job ever and she's MIA, can't even answer legit questions, his statements contradict those of his administration...a total laughing stock.

ETA: Some of ya'll spent the last 4 years bitchiing and complaining every.single.day about Trump and how he's ruining our country..the outrage. Now you are all silent and just care about baking cookies. lmao..I can't even with the hypocrisy.


Admit i. You all got played and voted for a senile fool who has spent 50 years in politics with 0 accomplishments and still is not taken seriously all because you hated Trump. Own it. This administration is a JOKE...at this rate God help us because we are absolutely a global joke and no one thinks this senile ole fool is in control of anything. His son is an admitted crackhead and he can't even keep his eyes open long enough to hear his name being called. SMDH.




A global embarrassment was the Trump administration and every American who was dumb enough to vote into office a lying, inept, washed up REALITY STAR. It's utterly HILARIOUS to watch Trump supporters whine and cry over this administration while they idly stood by for FOUR YEARS as Trump systematically undermined our democracy, divided this nation and made us the laughing stock the world over.

The more you try to convince anyone that Trump was responsible, coherent and honest the more you demonstrate how utterly brainwashed you are. Step away from your right wing propaganda that has somehow convinced you that this administration is any way worse than the circus we all had to suffer through for four years.



Posted 9/3/21 7:35 AM
 

Anotherplease
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1,000's of Americans still stranded

Obama tried to warn us.. “do not underestimate Joe’s ability to f$& this up when speaking about Biden running for president. He has also been referred to as an unguided middle during meetings. Listen joe was a terrible choice for president. Trump wasn’t great either. But hey, Biden isn’t trump right? That’s how everyone voted. Almost a year in 3 years to go

Posted 9/3/21 7:55 AM
 

RainyDay
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Re: 1,000's of Americans still stranded

Posted by CookiePuss

I also still want to know why Trump didn't pull out 100% while he was in office if he would have done such a better job. Why didn't he then? He had almost a year from when the treaty was signed so why didn't he finish what he started if he is so strong and controlling?




Because he KNEW he wouldn't be able to make it happen without repercussions like what unfortunately is taking place now. There is absolutely no other reason for him to have not pulled out before the end of his term.

Message edited 9/3/2021 8:00:03 AM.

Posted 9/3/21 7:58 AM
 

windyweather21
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Re: 1,000's of Americans still stranded

Posted by klingklang77

Posted by windyweather21

Posted by klingklang77

Posted by jellybean78

Posted by Hofstra26

Posted by jellybean78

The last administration had a president that was able to string together coherent sentences, not lie in front of the press and blatantly throw his administration under the the bus.



You cannot be serious with this comment.
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Trump was a babbling, incoherent, lying, sack of $hit who threw EVERYONE under the bus and who literally blamed everyone around him for his failures and shortcomings as president.

Clearly you weren't paying attention AT ALL for four years.



No I have been paying attention for a long time. Have you? Put your hate for Trump aside, have you recently listened to any press conference or watched our current administration? How can you even defend the foolishness that is spewed. It's a global embarrassment. You have to be dumb and blind not to see it. I'm not trying to pretend Trump was some eloquent savior but compared to Biden, at least Trump was coherent. Biden has taken 0 responsibility for anything that has happened. He doesn't even make sense 99% of the time. He gave his VP the worst job ever and she's MIA, can't even answer legit questions, his statements contradict those of his administration...a total laughing stock.

ETA: Some of ya'll spent the last 4 years bitchiing and complaining every.single.day about Trump and how he's ruining our country..the outrage. Now you are all silent and just care about baking cookies. lmao..I can't even with the hypocrisy.


Admit i. You all got played and voted for a senile fool who has spent 50 years in politics with 0 accomplishments and still is not taken seriously all because you hated Trump. Own it. This administration is a JOKE...at this rate God help us because we are absolutely a global joke and no one thinks this senile ole fool is in control of anything. His son is an admitted crackhead and he can't even keep his eyes open long enough to hear his name being called. SMDH.




I’m not even going to address the rest of what you said. But may you or someone you love never have to deal with a drug or alcohol disorder. You don't make fun of them and call them a “crackhead.” They don’t needs stigmas and names called at them; they need help.



Why won’t you address the rest of the post? Because you know it is true?
Oh and he IS a crackhead. You are acting like his parents that coddle him.



I don’t owe anyone a response to what I don’t want to respond to. It’s not that I believe it is true or not.

Maybe you should learn that the terms ‘alcoholic’ and ‘crackhead’ are not acceptable and they have been taken out of the DSM. It’s not coddling. It is called giving those with a drug use disorder appropriate treatment.

I mean you wouldn’t like it very much if your child was called a term not used anymore because of, say ADHD, now would you?

https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/all-about-addiction/201809/never-call-someone-alcoholic-or-addict



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You mean retard? You do realize that meant a not smart person. People with ADHD ARE smart and not all are in slow classes.

Sorry but you are making no sense at all.

Posted 9/3/21 8:38 AM
 

windyweather21
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Re: 1,000's of Americans still stranded

Posted by Anotherplease

Obama tried to warn us.. “do not underestimate Joe’s ability to f$& this up when speaking about Biden running for president. He has also been referred to as an unguided middle during meetings. Listen joe was a terrible choice for president. Trump wasn’t great either. But hey, Biden isn’t trump right? That’s how everyone voted. Almost a year in 3 years to go



She and other Biden voters just won't admit that while Trump is not the best choice, Biden was thrown in there JUST so the democrats could have control. They knew what they were doing.
I am shocked he has lasted this long but I just saw him a day or two ago and he is aging quickly. He can't do this and GOD FORBID if something happens to him we will have someone worse. JUST BECAUSE we HAD to have a woman in office. ANY woman is fine with so many people.

Posted 9/3/21 8:40 AM
 

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Re: 1,000's of Americans still stranded

Posted by windyweather21

Posted by Anotherplease

Obama tried to warn us.. “do not underestimate Joe’s ability to f$& this up when speaking about Biden running for president. He has also been referred to as an unguided middle during meetings. Listen joe was a terrible choice for president. Trump wasn’t great either. But hey, Biden isn’t trump right? That’s how everyone voted. Almost a year in 3 years to go



She and other Biden voters just won't admit that while Trump is not the best choice, Biden was thrown in there JUST so the democrats could have control. They knew what they were doing.
I am shocked he has lasted this long but I just saw him a day or two ago and he is aging quickly. He can't do this and GOD FORBID if something happens to him we will have someone worse. JUST BECAUSE we HAD to have a woman in office. ANY woman is fine with so many people.



Biden is STILL better than the inept Trump circus.

Posted 9/3/21 8:49 AM
 

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Re: 1,000's of Americans still stranded

Posted by windyweather21

Posted by klingklang77

Posted by windyweather21

Posted by klingklang77

Posted by jellybean78

Posted by Hofstra26

Posted by jellybean78

The last administration had a president that was able to string together coherent sentences, not lie in front of the press and blatantly throw his administration under the the bus.



You cannot be serious with this comment.
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Trump was a babbling, incoherent, lying, sack of $hit who threw EVERYONE under the bus and who literally blamed everyone around him for his failures and shortcomings as president.

Clearly you weren't paying attention AT ALL for four years.



No I have been paying attention for a long time. Have you? Put your hate for Trump aside, have you recently listened to any press conference or watched our current administration? How can you even defend the foolishness that is spewed. It's a global embarrassment. You have to be dumb and blind not to see it. I'm not trying to pretend Trump was some eloquent savior but compared to Biden, at least Trump was coherent. Biden has taken 0 responsibility for anything that has happened. He doesn't even make sense 99% of the time. He gave his VP the worst job ever and she's MIA, can't even answer legit questions, his statements contradict those of his administration...a total laughing stock.

ETA: Some of ya'll spent the last 4 years bitchiing and complaining every.single.day about Trump and how he's ruining our country..the outrage. Now you are all silent and just care about baking cookies. lmao..I can't even with the hypocrisy.


Admit i. You all got played and voted for a senile fool who has spent 50 years in politics with 0 accomplishments and still is not taken seriously all because you hated Trump. Own it. This administration is a JOKE...at this rate God help us because we are absolutely a global joke and no one thinks this senile ole fool is in control of anything. His son is an admitted crackhead and he can't even keep his eyes open long enough to hear his name being called. SMDH.




I’m not even going to address the rest of what you said. But may you or someone you love never have to deal with a drug or alcohol disorder. You don't make fun of them and call them a “crackhead.” They don’t needs stigmas and names called at them; they need help.



Why won’t you address the rest of the post? Because you know it is true?
Oh and he IS a crackhead. You are acting like his parents that coddle him.



I don’t owe anyone a response to what I don’t want to respond to. It’s not that I believe it is true or not.

Maybe you should learn that the terms ‘alcoholic’ and ‘crackhead’ are not acceptable and they have been taken out of the DSM. It’s not coddling. It is called giving those with a drug use disorder appropriate treatment.

I mean you wouldn’t like it very much if your child was called a term not used anymore because of, say ADHD, now would you?

https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/all-about-addiction/201809/never-call-someone-alcoholic-or-addict



I guess you should tell alcoholics anonymous they are wrong when they people in their meetings to say, Hi my name is xxx I am an alcoholic. Chat Icon Chat Icon

You mean retard? You do realize that meant a not smart person. People with ADHD ARE smart and not all are in slow classes.

Sorry but you are making no sense at all.



AA doesn’t work and has a very low success rate. They have proven to be damaging to many people. There are more effective treatments than NA or AA.

I didn’t say a specific word. Pick any term that would not be appropriate.

You are not really making sense, tbh.

https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2015/04/the-irrationality-of-alcoholics-anonymous/386255/

Posted 9/3/21 9:00 AM
 

CookiePuss
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Re: 1,000's of Americans still stranded

What would have this looked like on May 1st if Biden has pulled out of the treaty that Trump agreed to?
At the point that Biden took office, the troops were drawn down to 2500k. Trump brokered to have 5000 Taliban prisoners released over a year before the 5/1/2021 deadline. Where did all those Taliban prisoners go? They went to Afghanistan.
So, Biden breaks the treaty with the Taliban and does not withdraw forces. He can't just leave the 2500k troop there along with the embassy and the Americans so he has to now aggressively move more troops in to Afghanistan. Meanwhile, do you think that the Taliban is just going to be okay with the treaty being broken? That the Taliban isn't going to start killing Americans again? Do you think that state side Americans are going to be okay with sending thousands of sons and daughters back to Afghanistan for combat?
What would have breaking the treaty looked like on 5/1/2021?
I do believe that there were missteps with the withdrawal. I think that our Intelligence should have had more knowledge of how quickly the Afghan government would fall.
Biden did take responsibility - in every press conference.
Biden also was committed to ending the war in Afghanistan so why would he break a treaty that would escalate military presence and boots on the ground which he would have had to do if he broke the treaty.

Posted 9/3/21 9:14 AM
 

CookiePuss
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Re: 1,000's of Americans still stranded

Posted by windyweather21

Posted by Anotherplease

Obama tried to warn us.. “do not underestimate Joe’s ability to f$& this up when speaking about Biden running for president. He has also been referred to as an unguided middle during meetings. Listen joe was a terrible choice for president. Trump wasn’t great either. But hey, Biden isn’t trump right? That’s how everyone voted. Almost a year in 3 years to go



She and other Biden voters just won't admit that while Trump is not the best choice, Biden was thrown in there JUST so the democrats could have control. They knew what they were doing.
I am shocked he has lasted this long but I just saw him a day or two ago and he is aging quickly. He can't do this and GOD FORBID if something happens to him we will have someone worse. JUST BECAUSE we HAD to have a woman in office. ANY woman is fine with so many people.


You just saw Biden a day or two ago? You act like you got together for coffee. He is on the air every single day.
He is 78 years old. Pelosi is 81. Trump is 75. they are all up there in age.
Don't forget that with Trump - the GOP lost the House and Senate.

Posted 9/3/21 9:18 AM
 

windyweather21
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Re: 1,000's of Americans still stranded

Posted by Hofstra26

Posted by windyweather21

Posted by Anotherplease

Obama tried to warn us.. “do not underestimate Joe’s ability to f$& this up when speaking about Biden running for president. He has also been referred to as an unguided middle during meetings. Listen joe was a terrible choice for president. Trump wasn’t great either. But hey, Biden isn’t trump right? That’s how everyone voted. Almost a year in 3 years to go



She and other Biden voters just won't admit that while Trump is not the best choice, Biden was thrown in there JUST so the democrats could have control. They knew what they were doing.
I am shocked he has lasted this long but I just saw him a day or two ago and he is aging quickly. He can't do this and GOD FORBID if something happens to him we will have someone worse. JUST BECAUSE we HAD to have a woman in office. ANY woman is fine with so many people.



Biden is STILL better than the inept Trump circus.



Tell that to all the families of their 20 year old children that were just killed. They don't believe it. You wouldn't either if it was YOUR child.

Posted 9/3/21 9:28 AM
 

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Re: 1,000's of Americans still stranded

Posted by klingklang77

Posted by windyweather21

Posted by klingklang77

Posted by windyweather21

Posted by klingklang77

Posted by jellybean78

Posted by Hofstra26

Posted by jellybean78

The last administration had a president that was able to string together coherent sentences, not lie in front of the press and blatantly throw his administration under the the bus.



You cannot be serious with this comment.
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Trump was a babbling, incoherent, lying, sack of $hit who threw EVERYONE under the bus and who literally blamed everyone around him for his failures and shortcomings as president.

Clearly you weren't paying attention AT ALL for four years.



No I have been paying attention for a long time. Have you? Put your hate for Trump aside, have you recently listened to any press conference or watched our current administration? How can you even defend the foolishness that is spewed. It's a global embarrassment. You have to be dumb and blind not to see it. I'm not trying to pretend Trump was some eloquent savior but compared to Biden, at least Trump was coherent. Biden has taken 0 responsibility for anything that has happened. He doesn't even make sense 99% of the time. He gave his VP the worst job ever and she's MIA, can't even answer legit questions, his statements contradict those of his administration...a total laughing stock.

ETA: Some of ya'll spent the last 4 years bitchiing and complaining every.single.day about Trump and how he's ruining our country..the outrage. Now you are all silent and just care about baking cookies. lmao..I can't even with the hypocrisy.


Admit i. You all got played and voted for a senile fool who has spent 50 years in politics with 0 accomplishments and still is not taken seriously all because you hated Trump. Own it. This administration is a JOKE...at this rate God help us because we are absolutely a global joke and no one thinks this senile ole fool is in control of anything. His son is an admitted crackhead and he can't even keep his eyes open long enough to hear his name being called. SMDH.




I’m not even going to address the rest of what you said. But may you or someone you love never have to deal with a drug or alcohol disorder. You don't make fun of them and call them a “crackhead.” They don’t needs stigmas and names called at them; they need help.



Why won’t you address the rest of the post? Because you know it is true?
Oh and he IS a crackhead. You are acting like his parents that coddle him.



I don’t owe anyone a response to what I don’t want to respond to. It’s not that I believe it is true or not.

Maybe you should learn that the terms ‘alcoholic’ and ‘crackhead’ are not acceptable and they have been taken out of the DSM. It’s not coddling. It is called giving those with a drug use disorder appropriate treatment.

I mean you wouldn’t like it very much if your child was called a term not used anymore because of, say ADHD, now would you?

https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/all-about-addiction/201809/never-call-someone-alcoholic-or-addict



I guess you should tell alcoholics anonymous they are wrong when they people in their meetings to say, Hi my name is xxx I am an alcoholic. Chat Icon Chat Icon

You mean retard? You do realize that meant a not smart person. People with ADHD ARE smart and not all are in slow classes.

Sorry but you are making no sense at all.



AA doesn’t work and has a very low success rate. They have proven to be damaging to many people. There are more effective treatments than NA or AA.

I didn’t say a specific word. Pick any term that would not be appropriate.

You are not really making sense, tbh.

https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2015/04/the-irrationality-of-alcoholics-anonymous/386255/




Not everything works for everyone there area MANY successful stories that come out of AA.

So they are still wrong because they call themselves alcoholics when clearly they are?

No you did NOT say a specific word but that is one that comes to mind.

You seem to have a problem with words that people who have these conditions and illnesses DO NOT.

Posted 9/3/21 9:31 AM
 

klingklang77
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Re: 1,000's of Americans still stranded

Posted by CookiePuss

Posted by windyweather21

Posted by Anotherplease

Obama tried to warn us.. “do not underestimate Joe’s ability to f$& this up when speaking about Biden running for president. He has also been referred to as an unguided middle during meetings. Listen joe was a terrible choice for president. Trump wasn’t great either. But hey, Biden isn’t trump right? That’s how everyone voted. Almost a year in 3 years to go



She and other Biden voters just won't admit that while Trump is not the best choice, Biden was thrown in there JUST so the democrats could have control. They knew what they were doing.
I am shocked he has lasted this long but I just saw him a day or two ago and he is aging quickly. He can't do this and GOD FORBID if something happens to him we will have someone worse. JUST BECAUSE we HAD to have a woman in office. ANY woman is fine with so many people.


You just saw Biden a day or two ago? You act like you got together for coffee. He is on the air every single day.
He is 78 years old. Pelosi is 81. Trump is 75. they are all up there in age.
Don't forget that with Trump - the GOP lost the House and Senate.



I literally LOLed. That sip of coffee did not stay in my mouth.

Posted 9/3/21 9:31 AM
 

klingklang77
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Re: 1,000's of Americans still stranded

Posted by windyweather21

Posted by klingklang77

Posted by windyweather21

Posted by klingklang77

Posted by windyweather21

Posted by klingklang77

Posted by jellybean78

Posted by Hofstra26

Posted by jellybean78

The last administration had a president that was able to string together coherent sentences, not lie in front of the press and blatantly throw his administration under the the bus.



You cannot be serious with this comment.
Chat Icon Chat Icon Chat Icon Chat Icon

Trump was a babbling, incoherent, lying, sack of $hit who threw EVERYONE under the bus and who literally blamed everyone around him for his failures and shortcomings as president.

Clearly you weren't paying attention AT ALL for four years.



No I have been paying attention for a long time. Have you? Put your hate for Trump aside, have you recently listened to any press conference or watched our current administration? How can you even defend the foolishness that is spewed. It's a global embarrassment. You have to be dumb and blind not to see it. I'm not trying to pretend Trump was some eloquent savior but compared to Biden, at least Trump was coherent. Biden has taken 0 responsibility for anything that has happened. He doesn't even make sense 99% of the time. He gave his VP the worst job ever and she's MIA, can't even answer legit questions, his statements contradict those of his administration...a total laughing stock.

ETA: Some of ya'll spent the last 4 years bitchiing and complaining every.single.day about Trump and how he's ruining our country..the outrage. Now you are all silent and just care about baking cookies. lmao..I can't even with the hypocrisy.


Admit i. You all got played and voted for a senile fool who has spent 50 years in politics with 0 accomplishments and still is not taken seriously all because you hated Trump. Own it. This administration is a JOKE...at this rate God help us because we are absolutely a global joke and no one thinks this senile ole fool is in control of anything. His son is an admitted crackhead and he can't even keep his eyes open long enough to hear his name being called. SMDH.




I’m not even going to address the rest of what you said. But may you or someone you love never have to deal with a drug or alcohol disorder. You don't make fun of them and call them a “crackhead.” They don’t needs stigmas and names called at them; they need help.



Why won’t you address the rest of the post? Because you know it is true?
Oh and he IS a crackhead. You are acting like his parents that coddle him.



I don’t owe anyone a response to what I don’t want to respond to. It’s not that I believe it is true or not.

Maybe you should learn that the terms ‘alcoholic’ and ‘crackhead’ are not acceptable and they have been taken out of the DSM. It’s not coddling. It is called giving those with a drug use disorder appropriate treatment.

I mean you wouldn’t like it very much if your child was called a term not used anymore because of, say ADHD, now would you?

https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/all-about-addiction/201809/never-call-someone-alcoholic-or-addict



I guess you should tell alcoholics anonymous they are wrong when they people in their meetings to say, Hi my name is xxx I am an alcoholic. Chat Icon Chat Icon

You mean retard? You do realize that meant a not smart person. People with ADHD ARE smart and not all are in slow classes.

Sorry but you are making no sense at all.



AA doesn’t work and has a very low success rate. They have proven to be damaging to many people. There are more effective treatments than NA or AA.

I didn’t say a specific word. Pick any term that would not be appropriate.

You are not really making sense, tbh.

https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2015/04/the-irrationality-of-alcoholics-anonymous/386255/




Not everything works for everyone there area MANY successful stories that come out of AA.

So they are still wrong because they call themselves alcoholics when clearly they are?

No you did NOT say a specific word but that is one that comes to mind.

You seem to have a problem with words that people who have these conditions and illnesses DO NOT.



People with these conditions do have a problem with these words.

Success for many? Yeah, OK, if you think 5-10% success rate is many…Chat Icon

I take it you did not read the links I posted.

BTW, your link in the original post doesn’t work for me and is behind a paywall.

Posted 9/3/21 9:35 AM
 

Hofstra26
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Re: 1,000's of Americans still stranded

Posted by windyweather21

Posted by Hofstra26

Posted by windyweather21

Posted by Anotherplease

Obama tried to warn us.. “do not underestimate Joe’s ability to f$& this up when speaking about Biden running for president. He has also been referred to as an unguided middle during meetings. Listen joe was a terrible choice for president. Trump wasn’t great either. But hey, Biden isn’t trump right? That’s how everyone voted. Almost a year in 3 years to go



She and other Biden voters just won't admit that while Trump is not the best choice, Biden was thrown in there JUST so the democrats could have control. They knew what they were doing.
I am shocked he has lasted this long but I just saw him a day or two ago and he is aging quickly. He can't do this and GOD FORBID if something happens to him we will have someone worse. JUST BECAUSE we HAD to have a woman in office. ANY woman is fine with so many people.



Biden is STILL better than the inept Trump circus.



Tell that to all the families of their 20 year old children that were just killed. They don't believe it. You wouldn't either if it was YOUR child.



I will reiterate...........................

Biden is STILL better than Trump.

As for your comment, tragic as any death is I hope that you understand that those who enlist do so with the CLEAR understanding that serving in the armed forces comes with GREAT risk of injury and/or death. I have many friends and family who have served, this is something that is distinctly understood and accepted by the familes and those that enlist. Sadly, not everyone who serves gets to come home.

Posted 9/3/21 9:38 AM
 

windyweather21
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Re: 1,000's of Americans still stranded

Posted by CookiePuss

Posted by windyweather21

Posted by Anotherplease

Obama tried to warn us.. “do not underestimate Joe’s ability to f$& this up when speaking about Biden running for president. He has also been referred to as an unguided middle during meetings. Listen joe was a terrible choice for president. Trump wasn’t great either. But hey, Biden isn’t trump right? That’s how everyone voted. Almost a year in 3 years to go



She and other Biden voters just won't admit that while Trump is not the best choice, Biden was thrown in there JUST so the democrats could have control. They knew what they were doing.
I am shocked he has lasted this long but I just saw him a day or two ago and he is aging quickly. He can't do this and GOD FORBID if something happens to him we will have someone worse. JUST BECAUSE we HAD to have a woman in office. ANY woman is fine with so many people.


You just saw Biden a day or two ago? You act like you got together for coffee. He is on the air every single day.
He is 78 years old. Pelosi is 81. Trump is 75. they are all up there in age.
Don't forget that with Trump - the GOP lost the House and Senate.




I happen to change the channel and saw him. SMH

You can be up in age and still have your marbles. He does NOT as well as Pelosi. Trump is just in a category alone.

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