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windyweather21
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Re: 1,000's of Americans still stranded

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The last administration had a president that was able to string together coherent sentences, not lie in front of the press and blatantly throw his administration under the the bus.



You cannot be serious with this comment.
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Trump was a babbling, incoherent, lying, sack of $hit who threw EVERYONE under the bus and who literally blamed everyone around him for his failures and shortcomings as president.

Clearly you weren't paying attention AT ALL for four years.



No I have been paying attention for a long time. Have you? Put your hate for Trump aside, have you recently listened to any press conference or watched our current administration? How can you even defend the foolishness that is spewed. It's a global embarrassment. You have to be dumb and blind not to see it. I'm not trying to pretend Trump was some eloquent savior but compared to Biden, at least Trump was coherent. Biden has taken 0 responsibility for anything that has happened. He doesn't even make sense 99% of the time. He gave his VP the worst job ever and she's MIA, can't even answer legit questions, his statements contradict those of his administration...a total laughing stock.

ETA: Some of ya'll spent the last 4 years bitchiing and complaining every.single.day about Trump and how he's ruining our country..the outrage. Now you are all silent and just care about baking cookies. lmao..I can't even with the hypocrisy.


Admit i. You all got played and voted for a senile fool who has spent 50 years in politics with 0 accomplishments and still is not taken seriously all because you hated Trump. Own it. This administration is a JOKE...at this rate God help us because we are absolutely a global joke and no one thinks this senile ole fool is in control of anything. His son is an admitted crackhead and he can't even keep his eyes open long enough to hear his name being called. SMDH.




I’m not even going to address the rest of what you said. But may you or someone you love never have to deal with a drug or alcohol disorder. You don't make fun of them and call them a “crackhead.” They don’t needs stigmas and names called at them; they need help.



Why won’t you address the rest of the post? Because you know it is true?
Oh and he IS a crackhead. You are acting like his parents that coddle him.



I don’t owe anyone a response to what I don’t want to respond to. It’s not that I believe it is true or not.

Maybe you should learn that the terms ‘alcoholic’ and ‘crackhead’ are not acceptable and they have been taken out of the DSM. It’s not coddling. It is called giving those with a drug use disorder appropriate treatment.

I mean you wouldn’t like it very much if your child was called a term not used anymore because of, say ADHD, now would you?

https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/all-about-addiction/201809/never-call-someone-alcoholic-or-addict



I guess you should tell alcoholics anonymous they are wrong when they people in their meetings to say, Hi my name is xxx I am an alcoholic. Chat Icon Chat Icon

You mean retard? You do realize that meant a not smart person. People with ADHD ARE smart and not all are in slow classes.

Sorry but you are making no sense at all.



AA doesn’t work and has a very low success rate. They have proven to be damaging to many people. There are more effective treatments than NA or AA.

I didn’t say a specific word. Pick any term that would not be appropriate.

You are not really making sense, tbh.

https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2015/04/the-irrationality-of-alcoholics-anonymous/386255/




Not everything works for everyone there area MANY successful stories that come out of AA.

So they are still wrong because they call themselves alcoholics when clearly they are?

No you did NOT say a specific word but that is one that comes to mind.

You seem to have a problem with words that people who have these conditions and illnesses DO NOT.



People with these conditions do have a problem with these words.

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I take it you did not read the links I posted.

BTW, your link in the original post doesn’t work for me and is behind a paywall.



Are YOU those people? People I know do not and have been successful.

Posted 9/3/21 9:45 AM
 

windyweather21
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Re: 1,000's of Americans still stranded

Posted by Hofstra26

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Posted by Anotherplease

Obama tried to warn us.. “do not underestimate Joe’s ability to f$& this up when speaking about Biden running for president. He has also been referred to as an unguided middle during meetings. Listen joe was a terrible choice for president. Trump wasn’t great either. But hey, Biden isn’t trump right? That’s how everyone voted. Almost a year in 3 years to go



She and other Biden voters just won't admit that while Trump is not the best choice, Biden was thrown in there JUST so the democrats could have control. They knew what they were doing.
I am shocked he has lasted this long but I just saw him a day or two ago and he is aging quickly. He can't do this and GOD FORBID if something happens to him we will have someone worse. JUST BECAUSE we HAD to have a woman in office. ANY woman is fine with so many people.



Biden is STILL better than the inept Trump circus.



Tell that to all the families of their 20 year old children that were just killed. They don't believe it. You wouldn't either if it was YOUR child.



I will reiterate...........................

Biden is STILL better than Trump.

As for your comment, tragic as any death is I hope that you understand that those who enlist do so with the CLEAR understanding that serving in the armed forces comes with GREAT risk of injury and/or death. I have many friends and family who have served, this is something that is distinctly understood and accepted by the familes and those that enlist. Sadly, not everyone who serves gets to come home.




I am well aware of that but this was something that could have been avoided and was for 20 years.

I don't think you have a clue at all. You are the epitome of the person who puts up the "Pray for xxx" memes when things happen. You do it, then walk away into your "library", back into your spoiled, entitled world.

Posted 9/3/21 9:48 AM
 

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Re: 1,000's of Americans still stranded

Posted by Hofstra26

Posted by windyweather21

Posted by Anotherplease

Obama tried to warn us.. “do not underestimate Joe’s ability to f$& this up when speaking about Biden running for president. He has also been referred to as an unguided middle during meetings. Listen joe was a terrible choice for president. Trump wasn’t great either. But hey, Biden isn’t trump right? That’s how everyone voted. Almost a year in 3 years to go



She and other Biden voters just won't admit that while Trump is not the best choice, Biden was thrown in there JUST so the democrats could have control. They knew what they were doing.
I am shocked he has lasted this long but I just saw him a day or two ago and he is aging quickly. He can't do this and GOD FORBID if something happens to him we will have someone worse. JUST BECAUSE we HAD to have a woman in office. ANY woman is fine with so many people.



Biden is STILL better than the inept Trump circus.



LOL I hope you don't believe that. Anyone with half a brain that voted for this senile, inept administration could see the massive failure that has happened in JUST 9 months. 9 months!!!

We have a massive surge in migrants, many COVID positive, during a PANDEMIC in which some Americans are losing their jobs because people are mandating a new vaccine that doesn't even prevent people spreading or contracting COVID but it's A OK to have open borders. Your VP who is supposed to be in charge is no where to be found and who knows what she does but it's OK because she's a woman so lets celebrate!!

We have 13 young lives that are no longer because this administration hastily pulled out of a 20 year war that we spent billions of dollars on not to mention the thousands of service men and women we lost and now 20 years later the Taliban is in control. So basically all those lives lost, the money spent and at the end of the day nothing to show for it. Military confidence is at an all tie low and how could it not be with a commander in chief that can't even answer questions coherently.

Oh and we also left hundreds of Americans and who knows how many of our Afghan allies behind even though your sweet president promised them that no one would be left behind. How sick is that? Think about the global implications. You think our global allies are going to take us seriously when we have this corpse in the White House.

It's even more maddening that it's 20 years after 9/11 and we have effectively handed over the country to the Taliban. The army general even admitted that we may have to cooperate with the Taliban at some point...WOW. God help us and I hope this doesn't set us up for a terrorist attack again here on US soil.

He admits on national TV that he's not supposed to take questions, or he can only take questions from the people he was told to call on. The PRESIDENT.!! He stumbles and can hardly answer the questions he does take..

Our country is a laughing stock and no one has respect for this senile old man who has been in politics for 50 years with hardly an accomplishment to show.

Record inflation, Afghanistan gone to shit because of our decisions, COVID still out of control.
He currently has a 51% disapproval rating! Even CNN admits he's horrible but you all are still stuck on Trumps mean tweets...

Oh and his son is a crackhead and admitted on national TV that he smoked parmesan cheese thinking it was crack. The same man that because of his father had business interactions with some powerful world leaders during his fathers time as VP..but none of ya'll care because...why??

OPEN YOUR EYES...all that concern you had for your country during the last administration....keep that same energy!! The hypocrisy is rich amongst some of ya'll!

Posted 9/3/21 9:53 AM
 

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Re: 1,000's of Americans still stranded

Posted by windyweather21

Posted by Hofstra26

Posted by windyweather21

Posted by Hofstra26

Posted by windyweather21

Posted by Anotherplease

Obama tried to warn us.. “do not underestimate Joe’s ability to f$& this up when speaking about Biden running for president. He has also been referred to as an unguided middle during meetings. Listen joe was a terrible choice for president. Trump wasn’t great either. But hey, Biden isn’t trump right? That’s how everyone voted. Almost a year in 3 years to go



She and other Biden voters just won't admit that while Trump is not the best choice, Biden was thrown in there JUST so the democrats could have control. They knew what they were doing.
I am shocked he has lasted this long but I just saw him a day or two ago and he is aging quickly. He can't do this and GOD FORBID if something happens to him we will have someone worse. JUST BECAUSE we HAD to have a woman in office. ANY woman is fine with so many people.



Biden is STILL better than the inept Trump circus.



Tell that to all the families of their 20 year old children that were just killed. They don't believe it. You wouldn't either if it was YOUR child.



I will reiterate...........................

Biden is STILL better than Trump.

As for your comment, tragic as any death is I hope that you understand that those who enlist do so with the CLEAR understanding that serving in the armed forces comes with GREAT risk of injury and/or death. I have many friends and family who have served, this is something that is distinctly understood and accepted by the familes and those that enlist. Sadly, not everyone who serves gets to come home.




I am well aware of that but this was something that could have been avoided and was for 20 years.

I don't think you have a clue at all. You are the epitome of the person who puts up the "Pray for xxx" memes when things happen. You do it, then walk away into your "library", back into your spoiled, entitled world.



Do you know how to have a conversation without making some idiotic, immature comment that is rooted in no actual fact and adds nothing to the topic at hand? You resort to the same tactics over and over again on here, when you have nothing intelligent to say to defend your comments you make childish personal attacks that make you look insecure and envious. I'm actually embarrased for you. You really need to grow up.

As for what is going on in Afghanistan, it's blindingly obvious by your comments that you don't have a clue and you're just talking out of your a$$.

Message edited 9/3/2021 9:56:49 AM.

Posted 9/3/21 9:55 AM
 

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Re: 1,000's of Americans still stranded

Posted by windyweather21


. Trump is just in a category alone.


Of this, I can agree with you. Trump is in a category alone.

Posted 9/3/21 9:56 AM
 

windyweather21
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Re: 1,000's of Americans still stranded

Posted by jellybean78

Posted by Hofstra26

Posted by windyweather21

Posted by Anotherplease

Obama tried to warn us.. “do not underestimate Joe’s ability to f$& this up when speaking about Biden running for president. He has also been referred to as an unguided middle during meetings. Listen joe was a terrible choice for president. Trump wasn’t great either. But hey, Biden isn’t trump right? That’s how everyone voted. Almost a year in 3 years to go



She and other Biden voters just won't admit that while Trump is not the best choice, Biden was thrown in there JUST so the democrats could have control. They knew what they were doing.
I am shocked he has lasted this long but I just saw him a day or two ago and he is aging quickly. He can't do this and GOD FORBID if something happens to him we will have someone worse. JUST BECAUSE we HAD to have a woman in office. ANY woman is fine with so many people.



Biden is STILL better than the inept Trump circus.



LOL I hope you don't believe that. Anyone with half a brain that voted for this senile, inept administration could see the massive failure that has happened in JUST 9 months. 9 months!!!

We have a massive surge in migrants, many COVID positive, during a PANDEMIC in which some Americans are losing their jobs because people are mandating a new vaccine that doesn't even prevent people spreading or contracting COVID but it's A OK to have open borders. Your VP who is supposed to be in charge is no where to be found and who knows what she does but it's OK because she's a woman so lets celebrate!!

We have 13 young lives that are no longer because this administration hastily pulled out of a 20 year war that we spent billions of dollars on not to mention the thousands of service men and women we lost and now 20 years later the Taliban is in control. So basically all those lives lost, the money spent and at the end of the day nothing to show for it. Military confidence is at an all tie low and how could it not be with a commander in chief that can't even answer questions coherently.

Oh and we also left hundreds of Americans and who knows how many of our Afghan allies behind even though your sweet president promised them that no one would be left behind. How sick is that? Think about the global implications. You think our global allies are going to take us seriously when we have this corpse in the White House.

It's even more maddening that it's 20 years after 9/11 and we have effectively handed over the country to the Taliban. The army general even admitted that we may have to cooperate with the Taliban at some point...WOW. God help us and I hope this doesn't set us up for a terrorist attack again here on US soil.

He admits on national TV that he's not supposed to take questions, or he can only take questions from the people he was told to call on. The PRESIDENT.!! He stumbles and can hardly answer the questions he does take..

Our country is a laughing stock and no one has respect for this senile old man who has been in politics for 50 years with hardly an accomplishment to show.

Record inflation, Afghanistan gone to shit because of our decisions, COVID still out of control.
He currently has a 51% disapproval rating! Even CNN admits he's horrible but you all are still stuck on Trumps mean tweets...

Oh and his son is a crackhead and admitted on national TV that he smoked parmesan cheese thinking it was crack. The same man that because of his father had business interactions with some powerful world leaders during his fathers time as VP..but none of ya'll care because...why??

OPEN YOUR EYES...all that concern you had for your country during the last administration....keep that same energy!! The hypocrisy is rich amongst some of ya'll!




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Posted 9/3/21 9:58 AM
 

windyweather21
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Re: 1,000's of Americans still stranded

Posted by Hofstra26

Posted by windyweather21

Posted by Hofstra26

Posted by windyweather21

Posted by Hofstra26

Posted by windyweather21

Posted by Anotherplease

Obama tried to warn us.. “do not underestimate Joe’s ability to f$& this up when speaking about Biden running for president. He has also been referred to as an unguided middle during meetings. Listen joe was a terrible choice for president. Trump wasn’t great either. But hey, Biden isn’t trump right? That’s how everyone voted. Almost a year in 3 years to go



She and other Biden voters just won't admit that while Trump is not the best choice, Biden was thrown in there JUST so the democrats could have control. They knew what they were doing.
I am shocked he has lasted this long but I just saw him a day or two ago and he is aging quickly. He can't do this and GOD FORBID if something happens to him we will have someone worse. JUST BECAUSE we HAD to have a woman in office. ANY woman is fine with so many people.



Biden is STILL better than the inept Trump circus.



Tell that to all the families of their 20 year old children that were just killed. They don't believe it. You wouldn't either if it was YOUR child.



I will reiterate...........................

Biden is STILL better than Trump.

As for your comment, tragic as any death is I hope that you understand that those who enlist do so with the CLEAR understanding that serving in the armed forces comes with GREAT risk of injury and/or death. I have many friends and family who have served, this is something that is distinctly understood and accepted by the familes and those that enlist. Sadly, not everyone who serves gets to come home.




I am well aware of that but this was something that could have been avoided and was for 20 years.

I don't think you have a clue at all. You are the epitome of the person who puts up the "Pray for xxx" memes when things happen. You do it, then walk away into your "library", back into your spoiled, entitled world.



Do you know how to have a conversation without making some idiotic, immature comment that is rooted in no actual fact and adds nothing to the topic at hand? You resort to the same tactics over and over again on here, when you have nothing intelligent to say to defend your comments you make childish personal attacks that make you look insecure and envious. I'm actually embarrased for you. You really need to grow up.

As for what is going on in Afghanistan, it's blindingly obvious by your comments that you don't have a clue and you're just talking out of your a$$.



I can ASSURE you NO ONE is envious of you and that just goes to show you how vain you really are.

You are so blinded of your hatred for Trump that you find anything that Biden does ok. It is quite sad and everyone should be embarrassed of whom they put in office.

Posted 9/3/21 10:02 AM
 

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Re: 1,000's of Americans still stranded

Posted by windyweather21

Posted by klingklang77

Posted by windyweather21

Posted by klingklang77

Posted by windyweather21

Posted by klingklang77

Posted by windyweather21

Posted by klingklang77

Posted by jellybean78

Posted by Hofstra26

Posted by jellybean78

The last administration had a president that was able to string together coherent sentences, not lie in front of the press and blatantly throw his administration under the the bus.



You cannot be serious with this comment.
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Trump was a babbling, incoherent, lying, sack of $hit who threw EVERYONE under the bus and who literally blamed everyone around him for his failures and shortcomings as president.

Clearly you weren't paying attention AT ALL for four years.



No I have been paying attention for a long time. Have you? Put your hate for Trump aside, have you recently listened to any press conference or watched our current administration? How can you even defend the foolishness that is spewed. It's a global embarrassment. You have to be dumb and blind not to see it. I'm not trying to pretend Trump was some eloquent savior but compared to Biden, at least Trump was coherent. Biden has taken 0 responsibility for anything that has happened. He doesn't even make sense 99% of the time. He gave his VP the worst job ever and she's MIA, can't even answer legit questions, his statements contradict those of his administration...a total laughing stock.

ETA: Some of ya'll spent the last 4 years bitchiing and complaining every.single.day about Trump and how he's ruining our country..the outrage. Now you are all silent and just care about baking cookies. lmao..I can't even with the hypocrisy.


Admit i. You all got played and voted for a senile fool who has spent 50 years in politics with 0 accomplishments and still is not taken seriously all because you hated Trump. Own it. This administration is a JOKE...at this rate God help us because we are absolutely a global joke and no one thinks this senile ole fool is in control of anything. His son is an admitted crackhead and he can't even keep his eyes open long enough to hear his name being called. SMDH.




I’m not even going to address the rest of what you said. But may you or someone you love never have to deal with a drug or alcohol disorder. You don't make fun of them and call them a “crackhead.” They don’t needs stigmas and names called at them; they need help.



Why won’t you address the rest of the post? Because you know it is true?
Oh and he IS a crackhead. You are acting like his parents that coddle him.



I don’t owe anyone a response to what I don’t want to respond to. It’s not that I believe it is true or not.

Maybe you should learn that the terms ‘alcoholic’ and ‘crackhead’ are not acceptable and they have been taken out of the DSM. It’s not coddling. It is called giving those with a drug use disorder appropriate treatment.

I mean you wouldn’t like it very much if your child was called a term not used anymore because of, say ADHD, now would you?

https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/all-about-addiction/201809/never-call-someone-alcoholic-or-addict



I guess you should tell alcoholics anonymous they are wrong when they people in their meetings to say, Hi my name is xxx I am an alcoholic. Chat Icon Chat Icon

You mean retard? You do realize that meant a not smart person. People with ADHD ARE smart and not all are in slow classes.

Sorry but you are making no sense at all.



AA doesn’t work and has a very low success rate. They have proven to be damaging to many people. There are more effective treatments than NA or AA.

I didn’t say a specific word. Pick any term that would not be appropriate.

You are not really making sense, tbh.

https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2015/04/the-irrationality-of-alcoholics-anonymous/386255/




Not everything works for everyone there area MANY successful stories that come out of AA.

So they are still wrong because they call themselves alcoholics when clearly they are?

No you did NOT say a specific word but that is one that comes to mind.

You seem to have a problem with words that people who have these conditions and illnesses DO NOT.



People with these conditions do have a problem with these words.

Success for many? Yeah, OK, if you think 5-10% success rate is many…Chat Icon

I take it you did not read the links I posted.

BTW, your link in the original post doesn’t work for me and is behind a paywall.



Are YOU those people? People I know do not and have been successful.




What are you insinuating here? Chat Icon

You called someone a ‘crackhead’.

I posted links, which you probably didn’t read, about how terms like ‘crackhead’ are not acceptable these days. I don’t care whose son it is. He’s still a person. Is it so difficult for you to just use words in a thoughtful way to people with drug disorders, or any disorder for that matter? Nevermind, you have demonstrated that it is too difficult for you.

Posted 9/3/21 10:04 AM
 

windyweather21
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Re: 1,000's of Americans still stranded

Posted by klingklang77

Posted by windyweather21

Posted by klingklang77

Posted by windyweather21

Posted by klingklang77

Posted by windyweather21

Posted by klingklang77

Posted by windyweather21

Posted by klingklang77

Posted by jellybean78

Posted by Hofstra26

Posted by jellybean78

The last administration had a president that was able to string together coherent sentences, not lie in front of the press and blatantly throw his administration under the the bus.



You cannot be serious with this comment.
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Trump was a babbling, incoherent, lying, sack of $hit who threw EVERYONE under the bus and who literally blamed everyone around him for his failures and shortcomings as president.

Clearly you weren't paying attention AT ALL for four years.



No I have been paying attention for a long time. Have you? Put your hate for Trump aside, have you recently listened to any press conference or watched our current administration? How can you even defend the foolishness that is spewed. It's a global embarrassment. You have to be dumb and blind not to see it. I'm not trying to pretend Trump was some eloquent savior but compared to Biden, at least Trump was coherent. Biden has taken 0 responsibility for anything that has happened. He doesn't even make sense 99% of the time. He gave his VP the worst job ever and she's MIA, can't even answer legit questions, his statements contradict those of his administration...a total laughing stock.

ETA: Some of ya'll spent the last 4 years bitchiing and complaining every.single.day about Trump and how he's ruining our country..the outrage. Now you are all silent and just care about baking cookies. lmao..I can't even with the hypocrisy.


Admit i. You all got played and voted for a senile fool who has spent 50 years in politics with 0 accomplishments and still is not taken seriously all because you hated Trump. Own it. This administration is a JOKE...at this rate God help us because we are absolutely a global joke and no one thinks this senile ole fool is in control of anything. His son is an admitted crackhead and he can't even keep his eyes open long enough to hear his name being called. SMDH.




I’m not even going to address the rest of what you said. But may you or someone you love never have to deal with a drug or alcohol disorder. You don't make fun of them and call them a “crackhead.” They don’t needs stigmas and names called at them; they need help.



Why won’t you address the rest of the post? Because you know it is true?
Oh and he IS a crackhead. You are acting like his parents that coddle him.



I don’t owe anyone a response to what I don’t want to respond to. It’s not that I believe it is true or not.

Maybe you should learn that the terms ‘alcoholic’ and ‘crackhead’ are not acceptable and they have been taken out of the DSM. It’s not coddling. It is called giving those with a drug use disorder appropriate treatment.

I mean you wouldn’t like it very much if your child was called a term not used anymore because of, say ADHD, now would you?

https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/all-about-addiction/201809/never-call-someone-alcoholic-or-addict



I guess you should tell alcoholics anonymous they are wrong when they people in their meetings to say, Hi my name is xxx I am an alcoholic. Chat Icon Chat Icon

You mean retard? You do realize that meant a not smart person. People with ADHD ARE smart and not all are in slow classes.

Sorry but you are making no sense at all.



AA doesn’t work and has a very low success rate. They have proven to be damaging to many people. There are more effective treatments than NA or AA.

I didn’t say a specific word. Pick any term that would not be appropriate.

You are not really making sense, tbh.

https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2015/04/the-irrationality-of-alcoholics-anonymous/386255/




Not everything works for everyone there area MANY successful stories that come out of AA.

So they are still wrong because they call themselves alcoholics when clearly they are?

No you did NOT say a specific word but that is one that comes to mind.

You seem to have a problem with words that people who have these conditions and illnesses DO NOT.



People with these conditions do have a problem with these words.

Success for many? Yeah, OK, if you think 5-10% success rate is many…Chat Icon

I take it you did not read the links I posted.

BTW, your link in the original post doesn’t work for me and is behind a paywall.



Are YOU those people? People I know do not and have been successful.




What are you insinuating here? Chat Icon

You called someone a ‘crackhead’.

I posted links, which you probably didn’t read, about how terms like ‘crackhead’ are not acceptable these days. I don’t care whose son it is. He’s still a person. Is it so difficult for you to just use words in a thoughtful way to people with drug disorders, or any disorder for that matter? Nevermind, you have demonstrated that it is too difficult for you.



Oh stop with the politically correctness and the lets coddle everyone and give them all a trophy.
The man IS a crackhead. Did you even read what Jellybean just posted above? He doesn't want help and his parents think he is just fine. No one has dealt with it and he will continue to be a crackhead.

Posted 9/3/21 10:08 AM
 

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Re: 1,000's of Americans still stranded

Posted by windyweather21

Posted by Hofstra26

Posted by windyweather21

Posted by Hofstra26

Posted by windyweather21

Posted by Hofstra26

Posted by windyweather21

Posted by Anotherplease

Obama tried to warn us.. “do not underestimate Joe’s ability to f$& this up when speaking about Biden running for president. He has also been referred to as an unguided middle during meetings. Listen joe was a terrible choice for president. Trump wasn’t great either. But hey, Biden isn’t trump right? That’s how everyone voted. Almost a year in 3 years to go



She and other Biden voters just won't admit that while Trump is not the best choice, Biden was thrown in there JUST so the democrats could have control. They knew what they were doing.
I am shocked he has lasted this long but I just saw him a day or two ago and he is aging quickly. He can't do this and GOD FORBID if something happens to him we will have someone worse. JUST BECAUSE we HAD to have a woman in office. ANY woman is fine with so many people.



Biden is STILL better than the inept Trump circus.



Tell that to all the families of their 20 year old children that were just killed. They don't believe it. You wouldn't either if it was YOUR child.



I will reiterate...........................

Biden is STILL better than Trump.

As for your comment, tragic as any death is I hope that you understand that those who enlist do so with the CLEAR understanding that serving in the armed forces comes with GREAT risk of injury and/or death. I have many friends and family who have served, this is something that is distinctly understood and accepted by the familes and those that enlist. Sadly, not everyone who serves gets to come home.




I am well aware of that but this was something that could have been avoided and was for 20 years.

I don't think you have a clue at all. You are the epitome of the person who puts up the "Pray for xxx" memes when things happen. You do it, then walk away into your "library", back into your spoiled, entitled world.



Do you know how to have a conversation without making some idiotic, immature comment that is rooted in no actual fact and adds nothing to the topic at hand? You resort to the same tactics over and over again on here, when you have nothing intelligent to say to defend your comments you make childish personal attacks that make you look insecure and envious. I'm actually embarrased for you. You really need to grow up.

As for what is going on in Afghanistan, it's blindingly obvious by your comments that you don't have a clue and you're just talking out of your a$$.



I can ASSURE you NO ONE is envious of you and that just goes to show you how vain you really are.

You are so blinded of your hatred for Trump that you find anything that Biden does ok. It is quite sad and everyone should be embarrassed of whom they put in office.



Oh honey, I know your game. You live and breathe for LIF drama. You literally have nothing else in your day to focus on unless these threads are hopping with the opportunity for you to make some moron comments where you try and exert how much better you are than others and stir up $hit. It's hilarious. And predictable.

Needless to say, it's a GORGEOUS day and I have no desire to give you the drama you crave. No doubt you will continue your tirade of stupidity all throughout the day though. Sad.

Later gator!

Posted 9/3/21 10:08 AM
 

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Re: 1,000's of Americans still stranded

Posted by windyweather21

Posted by klingklang77

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Posted by jellybean78

Posted by Hofstra26

Posted by jellybean78

The last administration had a president that was able to string together coherent sentences, not lie in front of the press and blatantly throw his administration under the the bus.



You cannot be serious with this comment.
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Trump was a babbling, incoherent, lying, sack of $hit who threw EVERYONE under the bus and who literally blamed everyone around him for his failures and shortcomings as president.

Clearly you weren't paying attention AT ALL for four years.



No I have been paying attention for a long time. Have you? Put your hate for Trump aside, have you recently listened to any press conference or watched our current administration? How can you even defend the foolishness that is spewed. It's a global embarrassment. You have to be dumb and blind not to see it. I'm not trying to pretend Trump was some eloquent savior but compared to Biden, at least Trump was coherent. Biden has taken 0 responsibility for anything that has happened. He doesn't even make sense 99% of the time. He gave his VP the worst job ever and she's MIA, can't even answer legit questions, his statements contradict those of his administration...a total laughing stock.

ETA: Some of ya'll spent the last 4 years bitchiing and complaining every.single.day about Trump and how he's ruining our country..the outrage. Now you are all silent and just care about baking cookies. lmao..I can't even with the hypocrisy.


Admit i. You all got played and voted for a senile fool who has spent 50 years in politics with 0 accomplishments and still is not taken seriously all because you hated Trump. Own it. This administration is a JOKE...at this rate God help us because we are absolutely a global joke and no one thinks this senile ole fool is in control of anything. His son is an admitted crackhead and he can't even keep his eyes open long enough to hear his name being called. SMDH.




I’m not even going to address the rest of what you said. But may you or someone you love never have to deal with a drug or alcohol disorder. You don't make fun of them and call them a “crackhead.” They don’t needs stigmas and names called at them; they need help.



Why won’t you address the rest of the post? Because you know it is true?
Oh and he IS a crackhead. You are acting like his parents that coddle him.



I don’t owe anyone a response to what I don’t want to respond to. It’s not that I believe it is true or not.

Maybe you should learn that the terms ‘alcoholic’ and ‘crackhead’ are not acceptable and they have been taken out of the DSM. It’s not coddling. It is called giving those with a drug use disorder appropriate treatment.

I mean you wouldn’t like it very much if your child was called a term not used anymore because of, say ADHD, now would you?

https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/all-about-addiction/201809/never-call-someone-alcoholic-or-addict



I guess you should tell alcoholics anonymous they are wrong when they people in their meetings to say, Hi my name is xxx I am an alcoholic. Chat Icon Chat Icon

You mean retard? You do realize that meant a not smart person. People with ADHD ARE smart and not all are in slow classes.

Sorry but you are making no sense at all.



AA doesn’t work and has a very low success rate. They have proven to be damaging to many people. There are more effective treatments than NA or AA.

I didn’t say a specific word. Pick any term that would not be appropriate.

You are not really making sense, tbh.

https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2015/04/the-irrationality-of-alcoholics-anonymous/386255/




Not everything works for everyone there area MANY successful stories that come out of AA.

So they are still wrong because they call themselves alcoholics when clearly they are?

No you did NOT say a specific word but that is one that comes to mind.

You seem to have a problem with words that people who have these conditions and illnesses DO NOT.



People with these conditions do have a problem with these words.

Success for many? Yeah, OK, if you think 5-10% success rate is many…Chat Icon

I take it you did not read the links I posted.

BTW, your link in the original post doesn’t work for me and is behind a paywall.



Are YOU those people? People I know do not and have been successful.




What are you insinuating here? Chat Icon

You called someone a ‘crackhead’.

I posted links, which you probably didn’t read, about how terms like ‘crackhead’ are not acceptable these days. I don’t care whose son it is. He’s still a person. Is it so difficult for you to just use words in a thoughtful way to people with drug disorders, or any disorder for that matter? Nevermind, you have demonstrated that it is too difficult for you.



Oh stop with the politically correctness and the lets coddle everyone and give them all a trophy.
The man IS a crackhead. Did you even read what Jellybean just posted above? He doesn't want help and his parents think he is just fine. No one has dealt with it and he will continue to be a crackhead.



Are you at that point in your life where you yell at people to get off your lawn?

It’s pretty clear that you don’t have experience with people with drug use disorder in your life.

Posted 9/3/21 10:13 AM
 

windyweather21
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Re: 1,000's of Americans still stranded

Posted by Hofstra26

Posted by windyweather21

Posted by Hofstra26

Posted by windyweather21

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Posted by windyweather21

Posted by Hofstra26

Posted by windyweather21

Posted by Anotherplease

Obama tried to warn us.. “do not underestimate Joe’s ability to f$& this up when speaking about Biden running for president. He has also been referred to as an unguided middle during meetings. Listen joe was a terrible choice for president. Trump wasn’t great either. But hey, Biden isn’t trump right? That’s how everyone voted. Almost a year in 3 years to go



She and other Biden voters just won't admit that while Trump is not the best choice, Biden was thrown in there JUST so the democrats could have control. They knew what they were doing.
I am shocked he has lasted this long but I just saw him a day or two ago and he is aging quickly. He can't do this and GOD FORBID if something happens to him we will have someone worse. JUST BECAUSE we HAD to have a woman in office. ANY woman is fine with so many people.



Biden is STILL better than the inept Trump circus.



Tell that to all the families of their 20 year old children that were just killed. They don't believe it. You wouldn't either if it was YOUR child.



I will reiterate...........................

Biden is STILL better than Trump.

As for your comment, tragic as any death is I hope that you understand that those who enlist do so with the CLEAR understanding that serving in the armed forces comes with GREAT risk of injury and/or death. I have many friends and family who have served, this is something that is distinctly understood and accepted by the familes and those that enlist. Sadly, not everyone who serves gets to come home.




I am well aware of that but this was something that could have been avoided and was for 20 years.

I don't think you have a clue at all. You are the epitome of the person who puts up the "Pray for xxx" memes when things happen. You do it, then walk away into your "library", back into your spoiled, entitled world.



Do you know how to have a conversation without making some idiotic, immature comment that is rooted in no actual fact and adds nothing to the topic at hand? You resort to the same tactics over and over again on here, when you have nothing intelligent to say to defend your comments you make childish personal attacks that make you look insecure and envious. I'm actually embarrased for you. You really need to grow up.

As for what is going on in Afghanistan, it's blindingly obvious by your comments that you don't have a clue and you're just talking out of your a$$.



I can ASSURE you NO ONE is envious of you and that just goes to show you how vain you really are.

You are so blinded of your hatred for Trump that you find anything that Biden does ok. It is quite sad and everyone should be embarrassed of whom they put in office.



Oh honey, I know your game. You live and breathe for LIF drama. You literally have nothing else in your day to focus on unless these threads are hopping with the opportunity for you to make some moron comments where you try and exert how much better you are than others and stir up $hit. It's hilarious. And predictable.

Needless to say, it's a GORGEOUS day and I have no desire to give you the drama you crave. No doubt you will continue your tirade of stupidity all throughout the day though. Sad.

Later gator!



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I knew you would eventually run away. Have a lovely day.

Posted 9/3/21 10:19 AM
 

windyweather21
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Re: 1,000's of Americans still stranded

Posted by klingklang77

Posted by windyweather21

Posted by klingklang77

Posted by windyweather21

Posted by klingklang77

Posted by windyweather21

Posted by klingklang77

Posted by windyweather21

Posted by klingklang77

Posted by windyweather21

Posted by klingklang77

Posted by jellybean78

Posted by Hofstra26

Posted by jellybean78

The last administration had a president that was able to string together coherent sentences, not lie in front of the press and blatantly throw his administration under the the bus.



You cannot be serious with this comment.
Chat Icon Chat Icon Chat Icon Chat Icon

Trump was a babbling, incoherent, lying, sack of $hit who threw EVERYONE under the bus and who literally blamed everyone around him for his failures and shortcomings as president.

Clearly you weren't paying attention AT ALL for four years.



No I have been paying attention for a long time. Have you? Put your hate for Trump aside, have you recently listened to any press conference or watched our current administration? How can you even defend the foolishness that is spewed. It's a global embarrassment. You have to be dumb and blind not to see it. I'm not trying to pretend Trump was some eloquent savior but compared to Biden, at least Trump was coherent. Biden has taken 0 responsibility for anything that has happened. He doesn't even make sense 99% of the time. He gave his VP the worst job ever and she's MIA, can't even answer legit questions, his statements contradict those of his administration...a total laughing stock.

ETA: Some of ya'll spent the last 4 years bitchiing and complaining every.single.day about Trump and how he's ruining our country..the outrage. Now you are all silent and just care about baking cookies. lmao..I can't even with the hypocrisy.


Admit i. You all got played and voted for a senile fool who has spent 50 years in politics with 0 accomplishments and still is not taken seriously all because you hated Trump. Own it. This administration is a JOKE...at this rate God help us because we are absolutely a global joke and no one thinks this senile ole fool is in control of anything. His son is an admitted crackhead and he can't even keep his eyes open long enough to hear his name being called. SMDH.




I’m not even going to address the rest of what you said. But may you or someone you love never have to deal with a drug or alcohol disorder. You don't make fun of them and call them a “crackhead.” They don’t needs stigmas and names called at them; they need help.



Why won’t you address the rest of the post? Because you know it is true?
Oh and he IS a crackhead. You are acting like his parents that coddle him.



I don’t owe anyone a response to what I don’t want to respond to. It’s not that I believe it is true or not.

Maybe you should learn that the terms ‘alcoholic’ and ‘crackhead’ are not acceptable and they have been taken out of the DSM. It’s not coddling. It is called giving those with a drug use disorder appropriate treatment.

I mean you wouldn’t like it very much if your child was called a term not used anymore because of, say ADHD, now would you?

https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/all-about-addiction/201809/never-call-someone-alcoholic-or-addict



I guess you should tell alcoholics anonymous they are wrong when they people in their meetings to say, Hi my name is xxx I am an alcoholic. Chat Icon Chat Icon

You mean retard? You do realize that meant a not smart person. People with ADHD ARE smart and not all are in slow classes.

Sorry but you are making no sense at all.



AA doesn’t work and has a very low success rate. They have proven to be damaging to many people. There are more effective treatments than NA or AA.

I didn’t say a specific word. Pick any term that would not be appropriate.

You are not really making sense, tbh.

https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2015/04/the-irrationality-of-alcoholics-anonymous/386255/




Not everything works for everyone there area MANY successful stories that come out of AA.

So they are still wrong because they call themselves alcoholics when clearly they are?

No you did NOT say a specific word but that is one that comes to mind.

You seem to have a problem with words that people who have these conditions and illnesses DO NOT.



People with these conditions do have a problem with these words.

Success for many? Yeah, OK, if you think 5-10% success rate is many…Chat Icon

I take it you did not read the links I posted.

BTW, your link in the original post doesn’t work for me and is behind a paywall.



Are YOU those people? People I know do not and have been successful.




What are you insinuating here? Chat Icon

You called someone a ‘crackhead’.

I posted links, which you probably didn’t read, about how terms like ‘crackhead’ are not acceptable these days. I don’t care whose son it is. He’s still a person. Is it so difficult for you to just use words in a thoughtful way to people with drug disorders, or any disorder for that matter? Nevermind, you have demonstrated that it is too difficult for you.



Oh stop with the politically correctness and the lets coddle everyone and give them all a trophy.
The man IS a crackhead. Did you even read what Jellybean just posted above? He doesn't want help and his parents think he is just fine. No one has dealt with it and he will continue to be a crackhead.



Are you at that point in your life where you yell at people to get off your lawn?

It’s pretty clear that you don’t have experience with people with drug use disorder in your life.




Chat Icon Chat Icon Chat Icon nah, not yet.

That goes to show you how much you really do NOT know strangers online. Especially ones that don't put their entire lives online.

Posted 9/3/21 10:31 AM
 

Raging2020
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Re: 1,000's of Americans still stranded

Posted by windyweather21

Posted by klingklang77

Posted by windyweather21

Posted by klingklang77

Posted by windyweather21

Posted by klingklang77

Posted by windyweather21

Posted by klingklang77

Posted by windyweather21

Posted by klingklang77

Posted by jellybean78

Posted by Hofstra26

Posted by jellybean78

The last administration had a president that was able to string together coherent sentences, not lie in front of the press and blatantly throw his administration under the the bus.



You cannot be serious with this comment.
Chat Icon Chat Icon Chat Icon Chat Icon

Trump was a babbling, incoherent, lying, sack of $hit who threw EVERYONE under the bus and who literally blamed everyone around him for his failures and shortcomings as president.

Clearly you weren't paying attention AT ALL for four years.



No I have been paying attention for a long time. Have you? Put your hate for Trump aside, have you recently listened to any press conference or watched our current administration? How can you even defend the foolishness that is spewed. It's a global embarrassment. You have to be dumb and blind not to see it. I'm not trying to pretend Trump was some eloquent savior but compared to Biden, at least Trump was coherent. Biden has taken 0 responsibility for anything that has happened. He doesn't even make sense 99% of the time. He gave his VP the worst job ever and she's MIA, can't even answer legit questions, his statements contradict those of his administration...a total laughing stock.

ETA: Some of ya'll spent the last 4 years bitchiing and complaining every.single.day about Trump and how he's ruining our country..the outrage. Now you are all silent and just care about baking cookies. lmao..I can't even with the hypocrisy.


Admit i. You all got played and voted for a senile fool who has spent 50 years in politics with 0 accomplishments and still is not taken seriously all because you hated Trump. Own it. This administration is a JOKE...at this rate God help us because we are absolutely a global joke and no one thinks this senile ole fool is in control of anything. His son is an admitted crackhead and he can't even keep his eyes open long enough to hear his name being called. SMDH.




I’m not even going to address the rest of what you said. But may you or someone you love never have to deal with a drug or alcohol disorder. You don't make fun of them and call them a “crackhead.” They don’t needs stigmas and names called at them; they need help.



Why won’t you address the rest of the post? Because you know it is true?
Oh and he IS a crackhead. You are acting like his parents that coddle him.



I don’t owe anyone a response to what I don’t want to respond to. It’s not that I believe it is true or not.

Maybe you should learn that the terms ‘alcoholic’ and ‘crackhead’ are not acceptable and they have been taken out of the DSM. It’s not coddling. It is called giving those with a drug use disorder appropriate treatment.

I mean you wouldn’t like it very much if your child was called a term not used anymore because of, say ADHD, now would you?

https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/all-about-addiction/201809/never-call-someone-alcoholic-or-addict



I guess you should tell alcoholics anonymous they are wrong when they people in their meetings to say, Hi my name is xxx I am an alcoholic. Chat Icon Chat Icon

You mean retard? You do realize that meant a not smart person. People with ADHD ARE smart and not all are in slow classes.

Sorry but you are making no sense at all.



AA doesn’t work and has a very low success rate. They have proven to be damaging to many people. There are more effective treatments than NA or AA.

I didn’t say a specific word. Pick any term that would not be appropriate.

You are not really making sense, tbh.

https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2015/04/the-irrationality-of-alcoholics-anonymous/386255/




Not everything works for everyone there area MANY successful stories that come out of AA.

So they are still wrong because they call themselves alcoholics when clearly they are?

No you did NOT say a specific word but that is one that comes to mind.

You seem to have a problem with words that people who have these conditions and illnesses DO NOT.



People with these conditions do have a problem with these words.

Success for many? Yeah, OK, if you think 5-10% success rate is many…Chat Icon

I take it you did not read the links I posted.

BTW, your link in the original post doesn’t work for me and is behind a paywall.



Are YOU those people? People I know do not and have been successful.




What are you insinuating here? Chat Icon

You called someone a ‘crackhead’.

I posted links, which you probably didn’t read, about how terms like ‘crackhead’ are not acceptable these days. I don’t care whose son it is. He’s still a person. Is it so difficult for you to just use words in a thoughtful way to people with drug disorders, or any disorder for that matter? Nevermind, you have demonstrated that it is too difficult for you.



Oh stop with the politically correctness and the lets coddle everyone and give them all a trophy.
The man IS a crackhead. Did you even read what Jellybean just posted above? He doesn't want help and his parents think he is just fine. No one has dealt with it and he will continue to be a crackhead.



So that’s all that bothered you in the post is that she called him a crackhead? Wow.

I guess you are happy being the laughing stock of the world.

I’m not saying trump didn’t make us look ridiculous at times, but this guy is even more of a joke. And it’s pathetic people defend him.

I’m just disgusted that these were our two choices.

Posted 9/3/21 10:46 AM
 

windyweather21
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Re: 1,000's of Americans still stranded

Posted by Raging2020

Posted by windyweather21

Posted by klingklang77

Posted by windyweather21

Posted by klingklang77

Posted by windyweather21

Posted by klingklang77

Posted by windyweather21

Posted by klingklang77

Posted by windyweather21

Posted by klingklang77

Posted by jellybean78

Posted by Hofstra26

Posted by jellybean78

The last administration had a president that was able to string together coherent sentences, not lie in front of the press and blatantly throw his administration under the the bus.



You cannot be serious with this comment.
Chat Icon Chat Icon Chat Icon Chat Icon

Trump was a babbling, incoherent, lying, sack of $hit who threw EVERYONE under the bus and who literally blamed everyone around him for his failures and shortcomings as president.

Clearly you weren't paying attention AT ALL for four years.



No I have been paying attention for a long time. Have you? Put your hate for Trump aside, have you recently listened to any press conference or watched our current administration? How can you even defend the foolishness that is spewed. It's a global embarrassment. You have to be dumb and blind not to see it. I'm not trying to pretend Trump was some eloquent savior but compared to Biden, at least Trump was coherent. Biden has taken 0 responsibility for anything that has happened. He doesn't even make sense 99% of the time. He gave his VP the worst job ever and she's MIA, can't even answer legit questions, his statements contradict those of his administration...a total laughing stock.

ETA: Some of ya'll spent the last 4 years bitchiing and complaining every.single.day about Trump and how he's ruining our country..the outrage. Now you are all silent and just care about baking cookies. lmao..I can't even with the hypocrisy.


Admit i. You all got played and voted for a senile fool who has spent 50 years in politics with 0 accomplishments and still is not taken seriously all because you hated Trump. Own it. This administration is a JOKE...at this rate God help us because we are absolutely a global joke and no one thinks this senile ole fool is in control of anything. His son is an admitted crackhead and he can't even keep his eyes open long enough to hear his name being called. SMDH.




I’m not even going to address the rest of what you said. But may you or someone you love never have to deal with a drug or alcohol disorder. You don't make fun of them and call them a “crackhead.” They don’t needs stigmas and names called at them; they need help.



Why won’t you address the rest of the post? Because you know it is true?
Oh and he IS a crackhead. You are acting like his parents that coddle him.



I don’t owe anyone a response to what I don’t want to respond to. It’s not that I believe it is true or not.

Maybe you should learn that the terms ‘alcoholic’ and ‘crackhead’ are not acceptable and they have been taken out of the DSM. It’s not coddling. It is called giving those with a drug use disorder appropriate treatment.

I mean you wouldn’t like it very much if your child was called a term not used anymore because of, say ADHD, now would you?

https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/all-about-addiction/201809/never-call-someone-alcoholic-or-addict



I guess you should tell alcoholics anonymous they are wrong when they people in their meetings to say, Hi my name is xxx I am an alcoholic. Chat Icon Chat Icon

You mean retard? You do realize that meant a not smart person. People with ADHD ARE smart and not all are in slow classes.

Sorry but you are making no sense at all.



AA doesn’t work and has a very low success rate. They have proven to be damaging to many people. There are more effective treatments than NA or AA.

I didn’t say a specific word. Pick any term that would not be appropriate.

You are not really making sense, tbh.

https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2015/04/the-irrationality-of-alcoholics-anonymous/386255/




Not everything works for everyone there area MANY successful stories that come out of AA.

So they are still wrong because they call themselves alcoholics when clearly they are?

No you did NOT say a specific word but that is one that comes to mind.

You seem to have a problem with words that people who have these conditions and illnesses DO NOT.



People with these conditions do have a problem with these words.

Success for many? Yeah, OK, if you think 5-10% success rate is many…Chat Icon

I take it you did not read the links I posted.

BTW, your link in the original post doesn’t work for me and is behind a paywall.



Are YOU those people? People I know do not and have been successful.




What are you insinuating here? Chat Icon

You called someone a ‘crackhead’.

I posted links, which you probably didn’t read, about how terms like ‘crackhead’ are not acceptable these days. I don’t care whose son it is. He’s still a person. Is it so difficult for you to just use words in a thoughtful way to people with drug disorders, or any disorder for that matter? Nevermind, you have demonstrated that it is too difficult for you.



Oh stop with the politically correctness and the lets coddle everyone and give them all a trophy.
The man IS a crackhead. Did you even read what Jellybean just posted above? He doesn't want help and his parents think he is just fine. No one has dealt with it and he will continue to be a crackhead.



So that’s all that bothered you in the post is that she called him a crackhead? Wow.

I guess you are happy being the laughing stock of the world.

I’m not saying trump didn’t make us look ridiculous at times, but this guy is even more of a joke. And it’s pathetic people defend him.

I’m just disgusted that these were our two choices.




Isn't it sad that a WORD is all that is bothering her about Biden and his family? She won't go into anything with Biden himself but think it is horrible for people to call him what he is.

Posted 9/3/21 10:58 AM
 

klingklang77
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Re: 1,000's of Americans still stranded

Posted by Raging2020

So that’s all that bothered you in the post is that she called him a crackhead? Wow.

I guess you are happy being the laughing stock of the world.

I’m not saying trump didn’t make us look ridiculous at times, but this guy is even more of a joke. And it’s pathetic people defend him.

I’m just disgusted that these were our two choices.



I don’t even know what this post is about anyway because the original link is behind a paywall.

The exit was never going to be good and the strategy started with the last administration.

The US was more of a laughing stock with Trump and W, IME. I’ve been out since Bush. This is my experience.

Posted 9/3/21 11:00 AM
 

NervousNell
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Re: 1,000's of Americans still stranded

Wait, why is the word "alcoholic" offensive now?
I can see if you called someone a drunk, sure, but alcoholic? Doesn't it imply an addiction to alcohol?
What's wrong with that?
Seriously, how is that offensive?

Is the word diabetic offensive? Should it be changed to sugar processing disorder as to not offend people with the illness?

Posted 9/3/21 11:55 AM
 

windyweather21
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Re: 1,000's of Americans still stranded

Posted by NervousNell

Wait, why is the word "alcoholic" offensive now?
I can see if you called someone a drunk, sure, but alcoholic? Doesn't it imply an addiction to alcohol?
What's wrong with that?
Seriously, how is that offensive?

Is the word diabetic offensive? Should it be changed to sugar processing disorder as to not offend people with the illness?



Your guess is as good as mine. Maybe KK can explain.

Posted 9/3/21 11:59 AM
 

klingklang77
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Re: 1,000's of Americans still stranded

Posted by NervousNell

Wait, why is the word "alcoholic" offensive now?
I can see if you called someone a drunk, sure, but alcoholic? Doesn't it imply an addiction to alcohol?
What's wrong with that?
Seriously, how is that offensive?

Is the word diabetic offensive? Should it be changed to sugar processing disorder as to not offend people with the illness?



I posted this link earlier:

https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/all-about-addiction/201809/never-call-someone-alcoholic-or-addict

In a nutshell, it stigmatizes and shames people in a situation where many do not get the help they need. The term has been taken out of the DSM.

I don’t know about diabetic. I don’t think you can really compare the two, tbh. If you say the words, to me it sounds like ‘alcoholic’ has more negative connotations with it than a diabetic.

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Posted 9/3/21 12:24 PM
 

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Re: 1,000's of Americans still stranded

Posted by klingklang77

Posted by NervousNell

Wait, why is the word "alcoholic" offensive now?
I can see if you called someone a drunk, sure, but alcoholic? Doesn't it imply an addiction to alcohol?
What's wrong with that?
Seriously, how is that offensive?

Is the word diabetic offensive? Should it be changed to sugar processing disorder as to not offend people with the illness?



I posted this link earlier:

https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/all-about-addiction/201809/never-call-someone-alcoholic-or-addict

In a nutshell, it stigmatizes and shames people in a situation where many do not get the help they need. The term has been taken out of the DSM.

I don’t know about diabetic. I don’t think you can really compare the two, tbh. If you say the words, to me it sounds like ‘alcoholic’ has more negative connotations with it than a diabetic.



Do you know about this guys life?

Posted 9/3/21 12:51 PM
 

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Re: 1,000's of Americans still stranded

Posted by windyweather21

Posted by klingklang77

Posted by NervousNell

Wait, why is the word "alcoholic" offensive now?
I can see if you called someone a drunk, sure, but alcoholic? Doesn't it imply an addiction to alcohol?
What's wrong with that?
Seriously, how is that offensive?

Is the word diabetic offensive? Should it be changed to sugar processing disorder as to not offend people with the illness?



I posted this link earlier:

https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/all-about-addiction/201809/never-call-someone-alcoholic-or-addict

In a nutshell, it stigmatizes and shames people in a situation where many do not get the help they need. The term has been taken out of the DSM.

I don’t know about diabetic. I don’t think you can really compare the two, tbh. If you say the words, to me it sounds like ‘alcoholic’ has more negative connotations with it than a diabetic.



Do you know about this guys life?



Trying to bait again.

Posted 9/3/21 12:56 PM
 

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Re: 1,000's of Americans still stranded

Posted by klingklang77

Posted by windyweather21

Posted by klingklang77

Posted by NervousNell

Wait, why is the word "alcoholic" offensive now?
I can see if you called someone a drunk, sure, but alcoholic? Doesn't it imply an addiction to alcohol?
What's wrong with that?
Seriously, how is that offensive?

Is the word diabetic offensive? Should it be changed to sugar processing disorder as to not offend people with the illness?



I posted this link earlier:

https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/all-about-addiction/201809/never-call-someone-alcoholic-or-addict

In a nutshell, it stigmatizes and shames people in a situation where many do not get the help they need. The term has been taken out of the DSM.

I don’t know about diabetic. I don’t think you can really compare the two, tbh. If you say the words, to me it sounds like ‘alcoholic’ has more negative connotations with it than a diabetic.



Do you know about this guys life?



Trying to bait again.



No bait. I honestly am asking a question. Do you know him more than what you just attached?

Posted 9/3/21 1:01 PM
 

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Re: 1,000's of Americans still stranded

Posted by Raging2020

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The last administration had a president that was able to string together coherent sentences, not lie in front of the press and blatantly throw his administration under the the bus.



You cannot be serious with this comment.
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Trump was a babbling, incoherent, lying, sack of $hit who threw EVERYONE under the bus and who literally blamed everyone around him for his failures and shortcomings as president.

Clearly you weren't paying attention AT ALL for four years.



No I have been paying attention for a long time. Have you? Put your hate for Trump aside, have you recently listened to any press conference or watched our current administration? How can you even defend the foolishness that is spewed. It's a global embarrassment. You have to be dumb and blind not to see it. I'm not trying to pretend Trump was some eloquent savior but compared to Biden, at least Trump was coherent. Biden has taken 0 responsibility for anything that has happened. He doesn't even make sense 99% of the time. He gave his VP the worst job ever and she's MIA, can't even answer legit questions, his statements contradict those of his administration...a total laughing stock.

ETA: Some of ya'll spent the last 4 years bitchiing and complaining every.single.day about Trump and how he's ruining our country..the outrage. Now you are all silent and just care about baking cookies. lmao..I can't even with the hypocrisy.


Admit i. You all got played and voted for a senile fool who has spent 50 years in politics with 0 accomplishments and still is not taken seriously all because you hated Trump. Own it. This administration is a JOKE...at this rate God help us because we are absolutely a global joke and no one thinks this senile ole fool is in control of anything. His son is an admitted crackhead and he can't even keep his eyes open long enough to hear his name being called. SMDH.




I’m not even going to address the rest of what you said. But may you or someone you love never have to deal with a drug or alcohol disorder. You don't make fun of them and call them a “crackhead.” They don’t needs stigmas and names called at them; they need help.



Why won’t you address the rest of the post? Because you know it is true?
Oh and he IS a crackhead. You are acting like his parents that coddle him.



I don’t owe anyone a response to what I don’t want to respond to. It’s not that I believe it is true or not.

Maybe you should learn that the terms ‘alcoholic’ and ‘crackhead’ are not acceptable and they have been taken out of the DSM. It’s not coddling. It is called giving those with a drug use disorder appropriate treatment.

I mean you wouldn’t like it very much if your child was called a term not used anymore because of, say ADHD, now would you?

https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/all-about-addiction/201809/never-call-someone-alcoholic-or-addict



I guess you should tell alcoholics anonymous they are wrong when they people in their meetings to say, Hi my name is xxx I am an alcoholic. Chat Icon Chat Icon

You mean retard? You do realize that meant a not smart person. People with ADHD ARE smart and not all are in slow classes.

Sorry but you are making no sense at all.



AA doesn’t work and has a very low success rate. They have proven to be damaging to many people. There are more effective treatments than NA or AA.

I didn’t say a specific word. Pick any term that would not be appropriate.

You are not really making sense, tbh.

https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2015/04/the-irrationality-of-alcoholics-anonymous/386255/




Not everything works for everyone there area MANY successful stories that come out of AA.

So they are still wrong because they call themselves alcoholics when clearly they are?

No you did NOT say a specific word but that is one that comes to mind.

You seem to have a problem with words that people who have these conditions and illnesses DO NOT.



People with these conditions do have a problem with these words.

Success for many? Yeah, OK, if you think 5-10% success rate is many…Chat Icon

I take it you did not read the links I posted.

BTW, your link in the original post doesn’t work for me and is behind a paywall.



Are YOU those people? People I know do not and have been successful.




What are you insinuating here? Chat Icon

You called someone a ‘crackhead’.

I posted links, which you probably didn’t read, about how terms like ‘crackhead’ are not acceptable these days. I don’t care whose son it is. He’s still a person. Is it so difficult for you to just use words in a thoughtful way to people with drug disorders, or any disorder for that matter? Nevermind, you have demonstrated that it is too difficult for you.



Oh stop with the politically correctness and the lets coddle everyone and give them all a trophy.
The man IS a crackhead. Did you even read what Jellybean just posted above? He doesn't want help and his parents think he is just fine. No one has dealt with it and he will continue to be a crackhead.



So that’s all that bothered you in the post is that she called him a crackhead? Wow.

I guess you are happy being the laughing stock of the world.

I’m not saying trump didn’t make us look ridiculous at times, but this guy is even more of a joke. And it’s pathetic people defend him.

I’m just disgusted that these were our two choices.



It blows my mind LOL. I mean you smoke crack you're a crackhead, you drink too much alcohol you're an alcoholic. How are these terms offensive?? Are we really going to argue that and gloss over the shiithole our country is in now?

For the last part: I really doubt Biden is going to make it to run in 2024..he'll be toast by then. It seems like people are not too happy with Harris either since she's largely been absent from everything so I don't even know how this will play out.

Posted 9/3/21 6:30 PM
 

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Re: 1,000's of Americans still stranded

Posted by jellybean78

Posted by Raging2020

Posted by windyweather21

Posted by klingklang77

Posted by windyweather21

Posted by klingklang77

Posted by windyweather21

Posted by klingklang77

Posted by windyweather21

Posted by klingklang77

Posted by windyweather21

Posted by klingklang77

Posted by jellybean78

Posted by Hofstra26

Posted by jellybean78

The last administration had a president that was able to string together coherent sentences, not lie in front of the press and blatantly throw his administration under the the bus.



You cannot be serious with this comment.
Chat Icon Chat Icon Chat Icon Chat Icon

Trump was a babbling, incoherent, lying, sack of $hit who threw EVERYONE under the bus and who literally blamed everyone around him for his failures and shortcomings as president.

Clearly you weren't paying attention AT ALL for four years.



No I have been paying attention for a long time. Have you? Put your hate for Trump aside, have you recently listened to any press conference or watched our current administration? How can you even defend the foolishness that is spewed. It's a global embarrassment. You have to be dumb and blind not to see it. I'm not trying to pretend Trump was some eloquent savior but compared to Biden, at least Trump was coherent. Biden has taken 0 responsibility for anything that has happened. He doesn't even make sense 99% of the time. He gave his VP the worst job ever and she's MIA, can't even answer legit questions, his statements contradict those of his administration...a total laughing stock.

ETA: Some of ya'll spent the last 4 years bitchiing and complaining every.single.day about Trump and how he's ruining our country..the outrage. Now you are all silent and just care about baking cookies. lmao..I can't even with the hypocrisy.


Admit i. You all got played and voted for a senile fool who has spent 50 years in politics with 0 accomplishments and still is not taken seriously all because you hated Trump. Own it. This administration is a JOKE...at this rate God help us because we are absolutely a global joke and no one thinks this senile ole fool is in control of anything. His son is an admitted crackhead and he can't even keep his eyes open long enough to hear his name being called. SMDH.




I’m not even going to address the rest of what you said. But may you or someone you love never have to deal with a drug or alcohol disorder. You don't make fun of them and call them a “crackhead.” They don’t needs stigmas and names called at them; they need help.



Why won’t you address the rest of the post? Because you know it is true?
Oh and he IS a crackhead. You are acting like his parents that coddle him.



I don’t owe anyone a response to what I don’t want to respond to. It’s not that I believe it is true or not.

Maybe you should learn that the terms ‘alcoholic’ and ‘crackhead’ are not acceptable and they have been taken out of the DSM. It’s not coddling. It is called giving those with a drug use disorder appropriate treatment.

I mean you wouldn’t like it very much if your child was called a term not used anymore because of, say ADHD, now would you?

https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/all-about-addiction/201809/never-call-someone-alcoholic-or-addict



I guess you should tell alcoholics anonymous they are wrong when they people in their meetings to say, Hi my name is xxx I am an alcoholic. Chat Icon Chat Icon

You mean retard? You do realize that meant a not smart person. People with ADHD ARE smart and not all are in slow classes.

Sorry but you are making no sense at all.



AA doesn’t work and has a very low success rate. They have proven to be damaging to many people. There are more effective treatments than NA or AA.

I didn’t say a specific word. Pick any term that would not be appropriate.

You are not really making sense, tbh.

https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2015/04/the-irrationality-of-alcoholics-anonymous/386255/




Not everything works for everyone there area MANY successful stories that come out of AA.

So they are still wrong because they call themselves alcoholics when clearly they are?

No you did NOT say a specific word but that is one that comes to mind.

You seem to have a problem with words that people who have these conditions and illnesses DO NOT.



People with these conditions do have a problem with these words.

Success for many? Yeah, OK, if you think 5-10% success rate is many…Chat Icon

I take it you did not read the links I posted.

BTW, your link in the original post doesn’t work for me and is behind a paywall.



Are YOU those people? People I know do not and have been successful.




What are you insinuating here? Chat Icon

You called someone a ‘crackhead’.

I posted links, which you probably didn’t read, about how terms like ‘crackhead’ are not acceptable these days. I don’t care whose son it is. He’s still a person. Is it so difficult for you to just use words in a thoughtful way to people with drug disorders, or any disorder for that matter? Nevermind, you have demonstrated that it is too difficult for you.



Oh stop with the politically correctness and the lets coddle everyone and give them all a trophy.
The man IS a crackhead. Did you even read what Jellybean just posted above? He doesn't want help and his parents think he is just fine. No one has dealt with it and he will continue to be a crackhead.



So that’s all that bothered you in the post is that she called him a crackhead? Wow.

I guess you are happy being the laughing stock of the world.

I’m not saying trump didn’t make us look ridiculous at times, but this guy is even more of a joke. And it’s pathetic people defend him.

I’m just disgusted that these were our two choices.



It blows my mind LOL. I mean you smoke crack you're a crackhead, you drink too much alcohol you're an alcoholic. How are these terms offensive?? Are we really going to argue that and gloss over the shiithole our country is in now?

For the last part: I really doubt Biden is going to make it to run in 2024..he'll be toast by then. It seems like people are not too happy with Harris either since she's largely been absent from everything so I don't even know how this will play out.



I guess soon it won’t be allowed for a murderer to be called a murderer. That word will be a trigger for them and they’ll be offended. Chat Icon

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Posted 9/3/21 7:50 PM
 

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Re: 1,000's of Americans still stranded

Posted by klingklang77

Posted by NervousNell

Wait, why is the word "alcoholic" offensive now?
I can see if you called someone a drunk, sure, but alcoholic? Doesn't it imply an addiction to alcohol?
What's wrong with that?
Seriously, how is that offensive?

Is the word diabetic offensive? Should it be changed to sugar processing disorder as to not offend people with the illness?



I posted this link earlier:

https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/all-about-addiction/201809/never-call-someone-alcoholic-or-addict

In a nutshell, it stigmatizes and shames people in a situation where many do not get the help they need. The term has been taken out of the DSM.

I don’t know about diabetic. I don’t think you can really compare the two, tbh. If you say the words, to me it sounds like ‘alcoholic’ has more negative connotations with it than a diabetic.



I have family members in both NA and AA. To them terms like that are not offensive. The first step for their recovery is to recognize they have a problem and to own it. Not for anyone else but for themselves and their path to recovery. They actually say so themselves when they share in their meetings...”hi I’m Paul and I’m an alcoholic”. Now, if someone uses that word in a degrading way, then that’s a different story. But we all know that a mean-spirited person that likes to put people down can use -any- word to degrade someone. It’s all on the intention.

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