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MichLiz213
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Re: Active shooter reported in San Bernardino, California

Posted by gina409

The fact that it's not even surprising anymore is what scares me the most



The BBC kicked off the story on their broadcast basically saying, "Just another day in America..." So apparently it's not surprising to the rest of the world either.

There have been more shootings than days in the year in 2015.

If 20 six year olds being obliterated doesn't change things, then nothing will.

I don't know what it is, but this one finally cracked me. I am so angry.

Posted 12/2/15 11:50 PM
 
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Re: Active shooter reported in San Bernardino, California

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This world is sick. So sick. I was just in tears to DH. I feel safe no where. I just said to DH and I can't believe this terrible thought crossed my mind- what type of mother would I be bringing a child into this sick world? It's really making me questions my choices to have a child Chat Icon. I am so devastated for every life affected by these sick people. I am so sad Chat Icon




You're not alone. I have 2 little girls and I feel awful that this is the world they will grow up in. My oldest dd is 5 and she tells me all about the lock downs they practice in school. 26 students huddled in a bathroom trying not to make a sound. It breaks my heart. I am not ashamed to say I've shed many tears this year watching her bus pull away while I pray for her safe return. I wish there was somewhere we could move to get away from this all but I know there isn't anywhere safe.




My dd is also 5 and just told me she had a drill like the one you described and I started to cry. I felt awful. My dd was asking me why I was crying. Its just so terrifying you never know when or where this shit can happenChat Icon



I work in a school and every time we have a drill like this I cry

Posted 12/3/15 12:28 AM
 

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Re: Active shooter reported in San Bernardino, California

Posted by MichLiz213



If 20 six year olds being obliterated doesn't change things, then nothing will.



You said it. I am disgusted by our society.

Message edited 12/3/2015 4:52:01 AM.

Posted 12/3/15 4:50 AM
 

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Active shooter reported in San Bernardino, California

The shooters were a Muslim newlywed couple. The company had even thrown them a baby shower earlier in the year. The husband storms out of the holiday party and returned with his wife and shot up the place. It was meticulously planned and not spur of the moment. There were even bombs planted linked to a remote control car, that didn't go off. The shooters are both dead after a police chase. They have not ruled out terrorism.

Posted 12/3/15 6:58 AM
 

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Re: Active shooter reported in San Bernardino, California

Posted by ANewDayHasCome

The shooters were a Muslim newlywed couple. The company had even thrown them a baby shower earlier in the year. The husband storms out of the holiday party and returned with his wife and shot up the place. It was meticulously planned and not spur of the moment. There were even bombs planted linked to a remote control car, that didn't go off. The shooters are both dead after a police chase. They have not ruled out terrorism.



I don't know why the media have to point out that they are Muslim. Just another way the media distorts things. It's so early to be making assumptions like this, IMO.

I don't think it was terrorism. It sounds like he just went postal at his work place. What's interesting is that it is two people and one was a woman. Statistically, this is strange.

Posted 12/3/15 7:45 AM
 

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Re: Active shooter reported in San Bernardino, California

Posted by MrsB12614

This world is sick. So sick. I was just in tears to DH. I feel safe no where. I just said to DH and I can't believe this terrible thought crossed my mind- what type of mother would I be bringing a child into this sick world? It's really making me questions my choices to have a child Chat Icon. I am so devastated for every life affected by these sick people. I am so sad Chat Icon



there is so much good in the world though Chat Icon

Posted 12/3/15 8:01 AM
 

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Re: Active shooter reported in San Bernardino, California

Posted by MichLiz213

Posted by gina409


If 20 six year olds being obliterated doesn't change things, then nothing will.




I agree with this, sandy hook shook me to the core, those were BABIES!!!! innocent babies - sick

Posted 12/3/15 8:03 AM
 

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Re: Active shooter reported in San Bernardino, California

Posted by klingklang77

Posted by ANewDayHasCome

The shooters were a Muslim newlywed couple. The company had even thrown them a baby shower earlier in the year. The husband storms out of the holiday party and returned with his wife and shot up the place. It was meticulously planned and not spur of the moment. There were even bombs planted linked to a remote control car, that didn't go off. The shooters are both dead after a police chase. They have not ruled out terrorism.



I don't know why the media have to point out that they are Muslim. Just another way the media distorts things. It's so early to be making assumptions like this, IMO.

I don't think it was terrorism. It sounds like he just went postal at his work place. What's interesting is that it is two people and one was a woman. Statistically, this is strange.





Something just doesn't sound right with these two. The average person does not have those type of weapons lying around.

Posted 12/3/15 8:06 AM
 

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Re: Active shooter reported in San Bernardino, California

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Posted by ANewDayHasCome

The shooters were a Muslim newlywed couple. The company had even thrown them a baby shower earlier in the year. The husband storms out of the holiday party and returned with his wife and shot up the place. It was meticulously planned and not spur of the moment. There were even bombs planted linked to a remote control car, that didn't go off. The shooters are both dead after a police chase. They have not ruled out terrorism.



I don't know why the media have to point out that they are Muslim. Just another way the media distorts things. It's so early to be making assumptions like this, IMO.

I don't think it was terrorism. It sounds like he just went postal at his work place. What's interesting is that it is two people and one was a woman. Statistically, this is strange.



I had a feeling someone would comment how they were described as Muslim and I debated putting it in my post. I agree the media makes it worse. The cover of the ny post says Muslim shooters or something right in the front.

But the fact is yes they were Muslim. Same like I would be described as Jewish. Muslim doesn't mean terrorist but yes they were Muslim.

Posted 12/3/15 8:12 AM
 

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Re: Active shooter reported in San Bernardino, California

Posted by ANewDayHasCome

Posted by klingklang77

Posted by ANewDayHasCome

The shooters were a Muslim newlywed couple. The company had even thrown them a baby shower earlier in the year. The husband storms out of the holiday party and returned with his wife and shot up the place. It was meticulously planned and not spur of the moment. There were even bombs planted linked to a remote control car, that didn't go off. The shooters are both dead after a police chase. They have not ruled out terrorism.



I don't know why the media have to point out that they are Muslim. Just another way the media distorts things. It's so early to be making assumptions like this, IMO.

I don't think it was terrorism. It sounds like he just went postal at his work place. What's interesting is that it is two people and one was a woman. Statistically, this is strange.



I had a feeling someone would comment how they were described as Muslim and I debated putting it in my post. I agree the media makes it worse. The cover of the ny post says Muslim shooters or something right in the front.

But the fact is yes they were Muslim. Same like I would be described as Jewish. Muslim doesn't mean terrorist but yes they were Muslim.



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Posted 12/3/15 8:46 AM
 

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Re: Active shooter reported in San Bernardino, California

Posted by ANewDayHasCome

The shooters were a Muslim newlywed couple. The company had even thrown them a baby shower earlier in the year. The husband storms out of the holiday party and returned with his wife and shot up the place. It was meticulously planned and not spur of the moment. There were even bombs planted linked to a remote control car, that didn't go off. The shooters are both dead after a police chase. They have not ruled out terrorism.



Where's the baby in all of this?

Bizarre story. I would bet she was manipulated to participate in this massacre. Disgusting human beings. Glad they are dead. So sad for their victims.

Posted 12/3/15 8:47 AM
 

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Re: Active shooter reported in San Bernardino, California

Posted by klingklang77

What's interesting is that it is two people and one was a woman. Statistically, this is strange.



I also read that they have a 6 month old child. Seems odd that someone would go into that knowing there's a possibility that you would leave your child an orphan.

Posted 12/3/15 8:49 AM
 

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Re: Active shooter reported in San Bernardino, California

Posted by BargainMama

Posted by ANewDayHasCome

The shooters were a Muslim newlywed couple. The company had even thrown them a baby shower earlier in the year. The husband storms out of the holiday party and returned with his wife and shot up the place. It was meticulously planned and not spur of the moment. There were even bombs planted linked to a remote control car, that didn't go off. The shooters are both dead after a police chase. They have not ruled out terrorism.



Where's the baby in all of this?

Bizarre story. I would bet she was manipulated to participate in this massacre. Disgusting human beings. Glad they are dead. So sad for their victims.



They dropped off their 6 month old at the wife's mothers and said they had a dr appt. poor baby is now orphaned.

Posted 12/3/15 8:53 AM
 

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Re: Active shooter reported in San Bernardino, California

That baby is better off being orphaned than having those two pieces of shit for parents. I am incensed at this. Disgruntled???? so we all have our disgruntled days and we are pissed off at work SO WHAT? the only difference is that I do not have an arsenal of weapons in my home. And there we go again - back to the firearms and no control and no one cares and on and on and on we go.

As far as I am concerned when 20 6 year olds were shredded to pieces in their classrooms and this society did NOTHING!! then there is no hope for us and this will continue and there will be another sandy hook and we will all be sad again and nothing will happen.

I HATE that I am bringing my kids up in a society who basically does not give a shit about their own.Chat Icon

Posted 12/3/15 9:10 AM
 

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Active shooter reported in San Bernardino, California

A mommy from my April birth group, her husband was in the party. He's still,unaccounted for. She's assuming the worst now. Her sweet baby girl is 20m like my daughter. I'm heartbroken for her. And sick that she still has no official word

Posted 12/3/15 9:28 AM
 

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Re: Active shooter reported in San Bernardino, California

Posted by ANewDayHasCome

Posted by klingklang77

Posted by ANewDayHasCome

The shooters were a Muslim newlywed couple. The company had even thrown them a baby shower earlier in the year. The husband storms out of the holiday party and returned with his wife and shot up the place. It was meticulously planned and not spur of the moment. There were even bombs planted linked to a remote control car, that didn't go off. The shooters are both dead after a police chase. They have not ruled out terrorism.



I don't know why the media have to point out that they are Muslim. Just another way the media distorts things. It's so early to be making assumptions like this, IMO.

I don't think it was terrorism. It sounds like he just went postal at his work place. What's interesting is that it is two people and one was a woman. Statistically, this is strange.



I had a feeling someone would comment how they were described as Muslim and I debated putting it in my post. I agree the media makes it worse. The cover of the ny post says Muslim shooters or something right in the front.

But the fact is yes they were Muslim. Same like I would be described as Jewish. Muslim doesn't mean terrorist but yes they were Muslim.



The issue i have with the media reporting that they are Muslim is that if the shooter was Jewish or Catholic, they wouldn't be mentioning that as part of the story.

There is no way this was just a disgruntled employee who got pissed at a holiday party and decided to shoot up his workplace. This was planned.

Posted 12/3/15 9:34 AM
 

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Re: Active shooter reported in San Bernardino, California

Posted by PaddysGirl

A mommy from my April birth group, her husband was in the party. He's still,unaccounted for. She's assuming the worst now. Her sweet baby girl is 20m like my daughter. I'm heartbroken for her. And sick that she still has no official word



That is horrible. No one even called her? Chat Icon

Posted 12/3/15 9:37 AM
 

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Re: Active shooter reported in San Bernardino, California

Posted by ohbaby08

Posted by ANewDayHasCome

Posted by klingklang77

Posted by ANewDayHasCome

The shooters were a Muslim newlywed couple. The company had even thrown them a baby shower earlier in the year. The husband storms out of the holiday party and returned with his wife and shot up the place. It was meticulously planned and not spur of the moment. There were even bombs planted linked to a remote control car, that didn't go off. The shooters are both dead after a police chase. They have not ruled out terrorism.



I don't know why the media have to point out that they are Muslim. Just another way the media distorts things. It's so early to be making assumptions like this, IMO.

I don't think it was terrorism. It sounds like he just went postal at his work place. What's interesting is that it is two people and one was a woman. Statistically, this is strange.



I had a feeling someone would comment how they were described as Muslim and I debated putting it in my post. I agree the media makes it worse. The cover of the ny post says Muslim shooters or something right in the front.

But the fact is yes they were Muslim. Same like I would be described as Jewish. Muslim doesn't mean terrorist but yes they were Muslim.



The issue i have with the media reporting that they are Muslim is that if the shooter was Jewish or Catholic, they wouldn't be mentioning that as part of the story.

There is no way this was just a disgruntled employee who got pissed at a holiday party and decided to shoot up his workplace. This was planned.



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Posted 12/3/15 9:37 AM
 

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Re: Active shooter reported in San Bernardino, California

Posted by ohbaby08

Posted by ANewDayHasCome

Posted by klingklang77

Posted by ANewDayHasCome

The shooters were a Muslim newlywed couple. The company had even thrown them a baby shower earlier in the year. The husband storms out of the holiday party and returned with his wife and shot up the place. It was meticulously planned and not spur of the moment. There were even bombs planted linked to a remote control car, that didn't go off. The shooters are both dead after a police chase. They have not ruled out terrorism.



I don't know why the media have to point out that they are Muslim. Just another way the media distorts things. It's so early to be making assumptions like this, IMO.

I don't think it was terrorism. It sounds like he just went postal at his work place. What's interesting is that it is two people and one was a woman. Statistically, this is strange.



I had a feeling someone would comment how they were described as Muslim and I debated putting it in my post. I agree the media makes it worse. The cover of the ny post says Muslim shooters or something right in the front.

But the fact is yes they were Muslim. Same like I would be described as Jewish. Muslim doesn't mean terrorist but yes they were Muslim.



The issue i have with the media reporting that they are Muslim is that if the shooter was Jewish or Catholic, they wouldn't be mentioning that as part of the story.

There is no way this was just a disgruntled employee who got pissed at a holiday party and decided to shoot up his workplace. This was planned.



Yes, that's my issue. I have never heard for a shooter that the shooter was Christian, for example. Did they even report that for the Planned Parenthood shooting? I haven't been paying attention to that story.

Posted 12/3/15 10:07 AM
 

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Re: Active shooter reported in San Bernardino, California

Posted by klingklang77

Posted by ohbaby08

Posted by ANewDayHasCome

Posted by klingklang77

Posted by ANewDayHasCome

The shooters were a Muslim newlywed couple. The company had even thrown them a baby shower earlier in the year. The husband storms out of the holiday party and returned with his wife and shot up the place. It was meticulously planned and not spur of the moment. There were even bombs planted linked to a remote control car, that didn't go off. The shooters are both dead after a police chase. They have not ruled out terrorism.



I don't know why the media have to point out that they are Muslim. Just another way the media distorts things. It's so early to be making assumptions like this, IMO.

I don't think it was terrorism. It sounds like he just went postal at his work place. What's interesting is that it is two people and one was a woman. Statistically, this is strange.



I had a feeling someone would comment how they were described as Muslim and I debated putting it in my post. I agree the media makes it worse. The cover of the ny post says Muslim shooters or something right in the front.

But the fact is yes they were Muslim. Same like I would be described as Jewish. Muslim doesn't mean terrorist but yes they were Muslim.



The issue i have with the media reporting that they are Muslim is that if the shooter was Jewish or Catholic, they wouldn't be mentioning that as part of the story.

There is no way this was just a disgruntled employee who got pissed at a holiday party and decided to shoot up his workplace. This was planned.



Yes, that's my issue. I have never heard for a shooter that the shooter was Christian, for example. Did they even report that for the Planned Parenthood shooting? I haven't been paying attention to that story.



It has been mentioned that he is a Christian, if only because the cop he killed belonged to the same church as he did.

Posted 12/3/15 10:39 AM
 

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Re: Active shooter reported in San Bernardino, California

Posted by PaddysGirl

A mommy from my April birth group, her husband was in the party. He's still,unaccounted for. She's assuming the worst now. Her sweet baby girl is 20m like my daughter. I'm heartbroken for her. And sick that she still has no official word



Omg. How can they let it drag on that long for families?!

Posted 12/3/15 10:40 AM
 

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Re: Active shooter reported in San Bernardino, California

Posted by klingklang77

Posted by ohbaby08

Posted by ANewDayHasCome

Posted by klingklang77

Posted by ANewDayHasCome

The shooters were a Muslim newlywed couple. The company had even thrown them a baby shower earlier in the year. The husband storms out of the holiday party and returned with his wife and shot up the place. It was meticulously planned and not spur of the moment. There were even bombs planted linked to a remote control car, that didn't go off. The shooters are both dead after a police chase. They have not ruled out terrorism.



I don't know why the media have to point out that they are Muslim. Just another way the media distorts things. It's so early to be making assumptions like this, IMO.

I don't think it was terrorism. It sounds like he just went postal at his work place. What's interesting is that it is two people and one was a woman. Statistically, this is strange.



I had a feeling someone would comment how they were described as Muslim and I debated putting it in my post. I agree the media makes it worse. The cover of the ny post says Muslim shooters or something right in the front.

But the fact is yes they were Muslim. Same like I would be described as Jewish. Muslim doesn't mean terrorist but yes they were Muslim.



The issue i have with the media reporting that they are Muslim is that if the shooter was Jewish or Catholic, they wouldn't be mentioning that as part of the story.

There is no way this was just a disgruntled employee who got pissed at a holiday party and decided to shoot up his workplace. This was planned.



Yes, that's my issue. I have never heard for a shooter that the shooter was Christian, for example. Did they even report that for the Planned Parenthood shooting? I haven't been paying attention to that story.



Almost IMMEDIATELY the media reported that he was Christian.

Posted 12/3/15 10:48 AM
 

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Re: Active shooter reported in San Bernardino, California

I honestly don't know what we can do to stop these maniacs.

This world terrifies me.

I recently attended a conference at my son's daycare on how they will handle these types of situations if one occurred and I nearly had an anxiety attack just listening to the plan and how the teachers have been coached. It's a very scary world that we live in.

Posted 12/3/15 11:04 AM
 

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Re: Active shooter reported in San Bernardino, California

There is no way that this was just a case of workplace violence. A person who gets mad at work doesn't leave and comes back with his wife in body armour to shoot everyone and have bombs in their apartment. Wouldn't the wife try to calm him down rather than leave her baby and possibly get killed? I know we don't have all the facts BUT, I think we all need to stop being so politically correct. It's important to know they are Muslim bc that could point to radicalism. Of course MOST Muslims are good people but right now, the world is having an issue with the small number of Muslims who are not good people. We can't be naive to that fact.

Posted 12/3/15 11:23 AM
 

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Re: Active shooter reported in San Bernardino, California

Posted by afternoondelight828

Posted by PaddysGirl

A mommy from my April birth group, her husband was in the party. He's still,unaccounted for. She's assuming the worst now. Her sweet baby girl is 20m like my daughter. I'm heartbroken for her. And sick that she still has no official word



That is horrible. No one even called her? Chat Icon



Nothing, not a word. How can they do this to families??????

Posted 12/3/15 11:28 AM
 
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