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rightasrain
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Re: Angelina Jolie addresses daughter's boyish style, admits Shiloh wanted to be called "John".
oh my god, the media needs to leave john alone! she is adorable.
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Re: Angelina Jolie addresses daughter's boyish style, admits Shiloh wanted to be called "John".
Posted by AngnShaun
like i said the other day... its much easier and more socially accepted to defend a girl dressing like a boy than a boy dressing like a girl... my cousin used to wear all boys clothes too (she never wanted to be called John in stead of Julia but whatever lol) ... she eventually grew out of it ... but not completely... shes def still a tom boy but she wears girls bathinsuits and underwear now...
Actually, in Bella's preschool we had a little boy who went to Halloween last year as Dorothy from Wizard of OZ (dress, tights, and ruby shoes, the works) I was blown away by how my first reaction was intense curiosity and double take at the pictures, but it was totally like Angelina says, "Interesting....but there is so much more to her..."
This little boy was so much more and I had known him for four years....the choice of dress was an expression....and seeing that accepted and loved and encouraged at 4 years old was pretty fantastic.
And as an aside, I usually hate just about everything re: Angelina Jolie and her pretentious nature...but this was something that really touched my heart.
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Re: Angelina Jolie addresses daughter's boyish style, admits Shiloh wanted to be called "John".
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She is so cute! Angelina sounds like an amazing mother
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Re: Angelina Jolie addresses daughter's boyish style, admits Shiloh wanted to be called "John".
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Posted by BunnyWife
Angelina sounds like an amazing mother
ITA!
Eh, I wouldn't go that far. I'm sure this isn't going to be the popular answer but, I don't really see Angelina or the situation as qualifying for parent of the year. I remember Angelina as she was for most of her adult life - complete freak of the week. I know the outside impression is she has changed but, I think there are glimpses that she really hasn't changed all that much and, really, does someone really go from drinking blood and making out with their brother to being normal?
That said, I think it would be one thing if she was being just a supportive bystander with her teenage daughter wanting to be all tomboyed out but, I don't think that is the situation here. Not sure how old Shiloh is now but, I remember pics before she could even walk of Angelina holding her and she looked like a boy even then - meanwhile her sister (don't remember the name -the adopted one) was always all decked out girly to the extreme. At that age there was NO way Shiloh was choosing that get up - Angelina put her in it. I even remember lots of media attention about it how Angelina favored the adopted daughter and felt Shiloh had life "too easy" and basically just ignored her. Honestly, I have no idea what goes on in their life but, I feel sorry for the kid who is probably very confused.
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i don't applaud it. it's not my style of parenting but angelina and brad are obviously free to raise their children as they see fit. they shouldn't have to defend their decisions regardless of how popular or unpopular they are.
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Re: Angelina Jolie addresses daughter's boyish style, admits Shiloh wanted to be called "John".
Posted by browneyedgirl
i don't applaud it. it's not my style of parenting but angelina and brad are obviously free to raise their children as they see fit. they shouldn't have to defend their decisions regardless of how popular or unpopular they are.
ITA. I think it is odd actually but that's JMO
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Re: Angelina Jolie addresses daughter's boyish style, admits Shiloh wanted to be called "John".
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Posted by BunnyWife
Angelina sounds like an amazing mother
ITA!
Eh, I wouldn't go that far. I'm sure this isn't going to be the popular answer but, I don't really see Angelina or the situation as qualifying for parent of the year. I remember Angelina as she was for most of her adult life - complete freak of the week. I know the outside impression is she has changed but, I think there are glimpses that she really hasn't changed all that much and, really, does someone really go from drinking blood and making out with their brother to being normal?
That said, I think it would be one thing if she was being just a supportive bystander with her teenage daughter wanting to be all tomboyed out but, I don't think that is the situation here. Not sure how old Shiloh is now but, I remember pics before she could even walk of Angelina holding her and she looked like a boy even then - meanwhile her sister (don't remember the name -the adopted one) was always all decked out girly to the extreme. At that age there was NO way Shiloh was choosing that get up - Angelina put her in it. I even remember lots of media attention about it how Angelina favored the adopted daughter and felt Shiloh had life "too easy" and basically just ignored her. Honestly, I have no idea what goes on in their life but, I feel sorry for the kid who is probably very confused.
ITA! 
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Re: Angelina Jolie addresses daughter's boyish style, admits Shiloh wanted to be called "John".
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Posted by AngnShaun
like i said the other day... its much easier and more socially accepted to defend a girl dressing like a boy than a boy dressing like a girl... my cousin used to wear all boys clothes too (she never wanted to be called John in stead of Julia but whatever lol) ... she eventually grew out of it ... but not completely... shes def still a tom boy but she wears girls bathinsuits and underwear now...
Actually, in Bella's preschool we had a little boy who went to Halloween last year as Dorothy from Wizard of OZ (dress, tights, and ruby shoes, the works) I was blown away by how my first reaction was intense curiosity and double take at the pictures, but it was totally like Angelina says, "Interesting....but there is so much more to her..."
This little boy was so much more and I had known him for four years....the choice of dress was an expression....and seeing that accepted and loved and encouraged at 4 years old was pretty fantastic.
And as an aside, I usually hate just about everything re: Angelina Jolie and her pretentious nature...but this was something that really touched my heart.
IMO that is very different than a boy choosing to wear girls clothes on a daily basis...
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oh my god, the media needs to leave john alone! she is adorable.
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baby pics of Shiloh...
Looks like she was dressed as a typical little girl until she was old enough to ask for the clothes she wanted to wear!
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Re: Angelina Jolie addresses daughter's boyish style, admits Shiloh wanted to be called "John".
Posted by lipglossjunky73
baby pics of Shiloh...
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Looks like she was dressed as a typical little girl until she was old enough to ask for the clothes she wanted to wear!
Awwwwwwwwwwwww SOOOOOOOOO CUTE!!!!!!!
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Posted by BunnyWife
Angelina sounds like an amazing mother
ITA!
Eh, I wouldn't go that far. I'm sure this isn't going to be the popular answer but, I don't really see Angelina or the situation as qualifying for parent of the year. I remember Angelina as she was for most of her adult life - complete freak of the week. I know the outside impression is she has changed but, I think there are glimpses that she really hasn't changed all that much and, really, does someone really go from drinking blood and making out with their brother to being normal?
That said, I think it would be one thing if she was being just a supportive bystander with her teenage daughter wanting to be all tomboyed out but, I don't think that is the situation here. Not sure how old Shiloh is now but, I remember pics before she could even walk of Angelina holding her and she looked like a boy even then - meanwhile her sister (don't remember the name -the adopted one) was always all decked out girly to the extreme. At that age there was NO way Shiloh was choosing that get up - Angelina put her in it. I even remember lots of media attention about it how Angelina favored the adopted daughter and felt Shiloh had life "too easy" and basically just ignored her. Honestly, I have no idea what goes on in their life but, I feel sorry for the kid who is probably very confused.
ITA!
I agree too. I'm not saying a kid her age (she's 4 1/2, she was born a couple days after my son in May 2006) would or wouldn't want to dress in boys clothes or be called a boys name but I suspect it's Angelina Jolie or Brad Pitt or both of them or their publicists saying it would make for great media. I could be wrong but I doubt it. Celebs are always looking for ways to be different and unique (hence all the made up names we crack up at a lot) and she's always been a poseur and a nut so I totally see that making more sense IRL. If you think about it, it certainly sets her apart from Suri Cruise, who is also 4 1/2. How AWFUL would it be for a super celeb to have a daughter close in age to another super celeb daughter who both love the same girly things - heels, dolls, etc. So ununique.  Of course a kid could want to do this on their own, I don't doubt that but I smell a fake out with Angelina & Shiloh.
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Re: Angelina Jolie addresses daughter's boyish style, admits Shiloh wanted to be called "John".
I absolutely believe the Shiloh is picking her own clothes & could see that she wants to emulate her brothers. It goes beyond being a kid who hates dresses.
While it's fine at 4.5 yo, it does get problematic for older kids in elementary school. There is a little girl in my kids' school that dresses like a boy, wears boy underwear, plays boy games, wants to marry a girl in the class when she gets older. The mom went along with it & was trying to be supportive of who her daughter was. It became such an issue with teasing among the boys who were her best friends & the girls who didn't include her in games. The counselor intervened, spoke to the mom because while she may have been confused about her gender, she needed to know that for now she was a girl who liked boy things. Her mom with the help of the counselor has transitioned her over into wearing light blue to purple, to shirts with candy versus football, etc. Underwear is now girl's underwear. She no longer is getting the "I don't see any girl's here" and "you're in the wrong bathroom, aren't you?" crap that was going on.
Shiloh is likely not going to a regular elementary school & will be the same traveling French school as her older siblings but yes it can become more of an issue growing up. As for wanting to be called John, that's a typical kid thing but yes it speaks to the ones she wants to be like. It could be all kid stuff or it could be an actual gender issue. I just hate that Chasity Bono went through so much pain as an adult & I'd hate to see anyone (privately or another public figure) have to go through that.
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Re: Angelina Jolie addresses daughter's boyish style, admits Shiloh wanted to be called "John".
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While it's fine at 4.5 yo, it does get problematic for older kids in elementary school. There is a little girl in my kids' school that dresses like a boy, wears boy underwear, plays boy games, wants to marry a girl in the class when she gets older. The mom went along with it & was trying to be supportive of who her daughter was. It became such an issue with teasing among the boys who were her best friends & the girls who didn't include her in games. The counselor intervened, spoke to the mom because while she may have been confused about her gender, she needed to know that for now she was a girl who liked boy things. Her mom with the help of the counselor has transitioned her over into wearing light blue to purple, to shirts with candy versus football, etc. Underwear is now girl's underwear. She no longer is getting the "I don't see any girl's here" and "you're in the wrong bathroom, aren't you?" crap that was going on.
I really don't get this - wouldn't it have been better for the teachers to intervene and talk to the kids who were bullying her and saying this stuff? What if she is transgender? We can (almost) all agree that if you're gay, you're born gay - well, why not transgender? I would hate, hate, hate to think that if either of my kids were gender confused or actually felt more like the opposite gender that I would try to change them - the thought of that really upset me.  I get that it's not a big leap from light blue to purple, boys underwear to girls... but then why is it an issue at all?
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Re: Angelina Jolie addresses daughter's boyish style, admits Shiloh wanted to be called "John".
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Posted by nrthshgrl
While it's fine at 4.5 yo, it does get problematic for older kids in elementary school. There is a little girl in my kids' school that dresses like a boy, wears boy underwear, plays boy games, wants to marry a girl in the class when she gets older. The mom went along with it & was trying to be supportive of who her daughter was. It became such an issue with teasing among the boys who were her best friends & the girls who didn't include her in games. The counselor intervened, spoke to the mom because while she may have been confused about her gender, she needed to know that for now she was a girl who liked boy things. Her mom with the help of the counselor has transitioned her over into wearing light blue to purple, to shirts with candy versus football, etc. Underwear is now girl's underwear. She no longer is getting the "I don't see any girl's here" and "you're in the wrong bathroom, aren't you?" crap that was going on.
I really don't get this - wouldn't it have been better for the teachers to intervene and talk to the kids who were bullying her and saying this stuff? What if she is transgender? We can (almost) all agree that if you're gay, you're born gay - well, why not transgender? I would hate, hate, hate to think that if either of my kids were gender confused or actually felt more like the opposite gender that I would try to change them - the thought of that really upset me. I get that it's not a big leap from light blue to purple, boys underwear to girls... but then why is it an issue at all?
ITA!! I understand that it's easier to change the one child's behavior over the larger bullying group, but IMO they are the ones with the problem. It seems that the lesson learned is a bit backwards.
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Re: Angelina Jolie addresses daughter's boyish style, admits Shiloh wanted to be called "John".
Posted by heidla
Posted by headoverheels
Posted by nrthshgrl
While it's fine at 4.5 yo, it does get problematic for older kids in elementary school. There is a little girl in my kids' school that dresses like a boy, wears boy underwear, plays boy games, wants to marry a girl in the class when she gets older. The mom went along with it & was trying to be supportive of who her daughter was. It became such an issue with teasing among the boys who were her best friends & the girls who didn't include her in games. The counselor intervened, spoke to the mom because while she may have been confused about her gender, she needed to know that for now she was a girl who liked boy things. Her mom with the help of the counselor has transitioned her over into wearing light blue to purple, to shirts with candy versus football, etc. Underwear is now girl's underwear. She no longer is getting the "I don't see any girl's here" and "you're in the wrong bathroom, aren't you?" crap that was going on.
I really don't get this - wouldn't it have been better for the teachers to intervene and talk to the kids who were bullying her and saying this stuff? What if she is transgender? We can (almost) all agree that if you're gay, you're born gay - well, why not transgender? I would hate, hate, hate to think that if either of my kids were gender confused or actually felt more like the opposite gender that I would try to change them - the thought of that really upset me. I get that it's not a big leap from light blue to purple, boys underwear to girls... but then why is it an issue at all?
ITA!! I understand that it's easier to change the one child's behavior over the larger bullying group, but IMO they are the ones with the problem. It seems that the lesson learned is a bit backwards.
I also agree. Some things I think I would work on changing..maybe. Like maybe the underwear. I would explain that you have girl parts, and these are designed for your girl parts for health/sanitary reasons. (I dont know if boys underwear would be as comfortable or work the same for a girl.) as for colors, if my daughters wanted to wear light blue, why wouldnt I let them? I could offer her other colors, but if she consistently chose different ones...well then so be it. and if she likes sports and shirts with sport stuff...then that's what she likes. I think it's sad that you would have to change your child just because there are insensitive/rude children. If a child was teased because he/she had to wear glasses, is the answer to get this child contacts? why is this any different?
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Re: Angelina Jolie addresses daughter's boyish style, admits Shiloh wanted to be called "John".
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Eh, I wouldn't go that far. I'm sure this isn't going to be the popular answer but, I don't really see Angelina or the situation as qualifying for parent of the year. I remember Angelina as she was for most of her adult life - complete freak of the week. I know the outside impression is she has changed but, I think there are glimpses that she really hasn't changed all that much and, really, does someone really go from drinking blood and making out with their brother to being normal?
That said, I think it would be one thing if she was being just a supportive bystander with her teenage daughter wanting to be all tomboyed out but, I don't think that is the situation here. Not sure how old Shiloh is now but, I remember pics before she could even walk of Angelina holding her and she looked like a boy even then - meanwhile her sister (don't remember the name -the adopted one) was always all decked out girly to the extreme. At that age there was NO way Shiloh was choosing that get up - Angelina put her in it. I even remember lots of media attention about it how Angelina favored the adopted daughter and felt Shiloh had life "too easy" and basically just ignored her. Honestly, I have no idea what goes on in their life but, I feel sorry for the kid who is probably very confused.
WHHAAAAA?????
So because she did some questionable/crazy things before, she's not a good parent?
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Re: Angelina Jolie addresses daughter's boyish style, admits Shiloh wanted to be called "John".
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Posted by itsbabytime
Eh, I wouldn't go that far. I'm sure this isn't going to be the popular answer but, I don't really see Angelina or the situation as qualifying for parent of the year. I remember Angelina as she was for most of her adult life - complete freak of the week. I know the outside impression is she has changed but, I think there are glimpses that she really hasn't changed all that much and, really, does someone really go from drinking blood and making out with their brother to being normal?
That said, I think it would be one thing if she was being just a supportive bystander with her teenage daughter wanting to be all tomboyed out but, I don't think that is the situation here. Not sure how old Shiloh is now but, I remember pics before she could even walk of Angelina holding her and she looked like a boy even then - meanwhile her sister (don't remember the name -the adopted one) was always all decked out girly to the extreme. At that age there was NO way Shiloh was choosing that get up - Angelina put her in it. I even remember lots of media attention about it how Angelina favored the adopted daughter and felt Shiloh had life "too easy" and basically just ignored her. Honestly, I have no idea what goes on in their life but, I feel sorry for the kid who is probably very confused.
WHHAAAAA?????
So because she did some questionable/crazy things before, she's not a good parent?
You guys should have seen me in college. I think I am a good parent now that I have settled down, but maybe not 
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Definitely think it's odd...I would encourage my child to be their own person but my main concern would be to help them deal with the backlash that comes with it....
Let's face it, Angelina herself is a "little" odd....(anyone remember her wearing Billy Bob's blood around her neck?) ...so it doesn't surprise me that Shiloh / John is turning out to march to the beat of a different drum.
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Re: Angelina Jolie addresses daughter's boyish style, admits Shiloh wanted to be called "John".
Posted by nrthshgrl
While it's fine at 4.5 yo, it does get problematic for older kids in elementary school. There is a little girl in my kids' school that dresses like a boy, wears boy underwear, plays boy games, wants to marry a girl in the class when she gets older. The mom went along with it & was trying to be supportive of who her daughter was. It became such an issue with teasing among the boys who were her best friends & the girls who didn't include her in games. The counselor intervened, spoke to the mom because while she may have been confused about her gender, she needed to know that for now she was a girl who liked boy things. Her mom with the help of the counselor has transitioned her over into wearing light blue to purple, to shirts with candy versus football, etc. Underwear is now girl's underwear. She no longer is getting the "I don't see any girl's here" and "you're in the wrong bathroom, aren't you?" crap that was going on.
Barb, I usually agree with you on most of your posts, but this one, I firmly disagree with, and what's more, your daughter's school needs some intervention before they get slammed with a discrimination complaint, that, by all appearances, is warranted.
If kids are teasing another child about the fact that they don't comply with stereotypical behavior for their gender, it is considered gender discrimination. Under Title IX, a school is mandated to take specific steps in response, like addressing the teasing head on, and providing remedies that do not impose more of a restriction on the grieved party than anyone else.
I can tell you this - if that mother had filed a complaint with our office, we would have likely found a violation and mandated that the school conduct extensive training for its staff and administrators, provide training for all of the students on sex/gender discrimination (tailored to the age group, of course) and provide possible individual remedies to the child herself, if warranted, like counseling.
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Re: Angelina Jolie addresses daughter's boyish style, admits Shiloh wanted to be called "John".
Posted by headoverheels
Posted by brownie
Posted by itsbabytime
Eh, I wouldn't go that far. I'm sure this isn't going to be the popular answer but, I don't really see Angelina or the situation as qualifying for parent of the year. I remember Angelina as she was for most of her adult life - complete freak of the week. I know the outside impression is she has changed but, I think there are glimpses that she really hasn't changed all that much and, really, does someone really go from drinking blood and making out with their brother to being normal?
That said, I think it would be one thing if she was being just a supportive bystander with her teenage daughter wanting to be all tomboyed out but, I don't think that is the situation here. Not sure how old Shiloh is now but, I remember pics before she could even walk of Angelina holding her and she looked like a boy even then - meanwhile her sister (don't remember the name -the adopted one) was always all decked out girly to the extreme. At that age there was NO way Shiloh was choosing that get up - Angelina put her in it. I even remember lots of media attention about it how Angelina favored the adopted daughter and felt Shiloh had life "too easy" and basically just ignored her. Honestly, I have no idea what goes on in their life but, I feel sorry for the kid who is probably very confused.
WHHAAAAA?????
So because she did some questionable/crazy things before, she's not a good parent?
You guys should have seen me in college. I think I am a good parent now that I have settled down, but maybe not
That's exactly my point. What you did before you had children doesn't make you a bad parent 
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Re: Angelina Jolie addresses daughter's boyish style, admits Shiloh wanted to be called "John".
Sorry I find the whole things strange. JMHO This kid is going to be so confused....
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Re: Angelina Jolie addresses daughter's boyish style, admits Shiloh wanted to be called "John".
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Posted by heidla
Posted by headoverheels
Posted by nrthshgrl
While it's fine at 4.5 yo, it does get problematic for older kids in elementary school. There is a little girl in my kids' school that dresses like a boy, wears boy underwear, plays boy games, wants to marry a girl in the class when she gets older. The mom went along with it & was trying to be supportive of who her daughter was. It became such an issue with teasing among the boys who were her best friends & the girls who didn't include her in games. The counselor intervened, spoke to the mom because while she may have been confused about her gender, she needed to know that for now she was a girl who liked boy things. Her mom with the help of the counselor has transitioned her over into wearing light blue to purple, to shirts with candy versus football, etc. Underwear is now girl's underwear. She no longer is getting the "I don't see any girl's here" and "you're in the wrong bathroom, aren't you?" crap that was going on.
I really don't get this - wouldn't it have been better for the teachers to intervene and talk to the kids who were bullying her and saying this stuff? What if she is transgender? We can (almost) all agree that if you're gay, you're born gay - well, why not transgender? I would hate, hate, hate to think that if either of my kids were gender confused or actually felt more like the opposite gender that I would try to change them - the thought of that really upset me. I get that it's not a big leap from light blue to purple, boys underwear to girls... but then why is it an issue at all?
ITA!! I understand that it's easier to change the one child's behavior over the larger bullying group, but IMO they are the ones with the problem. It seems that the lesson learned is a bit backwards.
I also agree. Some things I think I would work on changing..maybe. Like maybe the underwear. I would explain that you have girl parts, and these are designed for your girl parts for health/sanitary reasons. (I dont know if boys underwear would be as comfortable or work the same for a girl.) as for colors, if my daughters wanted to wear light blue, why wouldnt I let them? I could offer her other colors, but if she consistently chose different ones...well then so be it. and if she likes sports and shirts with sport stuff...then that's what she likes. I think it's sad that you would have to change your child just because there are insensitive/rude children. If a child was teased because he/she had to wear glasses, is the answer to get this child contacts? why is this any different?
ITA!! When I was in elementary school there was a girl who was very boyish - she wore boyish clothes, had boysh hair etc. and no one ever made fun of her - it was who she was.
I also have a cousin who I grew up with who I swear was gay since the day he was born. I always "knew" there was something different about him from the time we were in pre-school. I child is born with these charectaristics and no matter how you dress them etc. you can't change them so it is better to support them and not make them feel ashamed about their likes.
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| Posted 12/9/10 3:02 PM |
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Re: Angelina Jolie addresses daughter's boyish style, admits Shiloh wanted to be called "John".
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Angelina sounds like an amazing mother
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Eh, I wouldn't go that far. I'm sure this isn't going to be the popular answer but, I don't really see Angelina or the situation as qualifying for parent of the year. I remember Angelina as she was for most of her adult life - complete freak of the week. I know the outside impression is she has changed but, I think there are glimpses that she really hasn't changed all that much and, really, does someone really go from drinking blood and making out with their brother to being normal?
That said, I think it would be one thing if she was being just a supportive bystander with her teenage daughter wanting to be all tomboyed out but, I don't think that is the situation here. Not sure how old Shiloh is now but, I remember pics before she could even walk of Angelina holding her and she looked like a boy even then - meanwhile her sister (don't remember the name -the adopted one) was always all decked out girly to the extreme. At that age there was NO way Shiloh was choosing that get up - Angelina put her in it. I even remember lots of media attention about it how Angelina favored the adopted daughter and felt Shiloh had life "too easy" and basically just ignored her. Honestly, I have no idea what goes on in their life but, I feel sorry for the kid who is probably very confused.
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I agree too. I'm not saying a kid her age (she's 4 1/2, she was born a couple days after my son in May 2006) would or wouldn't want to dress in boys clothes or be called a boys name but I suspect it's Angelina Jolie or Brad Pitt or both of them or their publicists saying it would make for great media. I could be wrong but I doubt it. Celebs are always looking for ways to be different and unique (hence all the made up names we crack up at a lot) and she's always been a poseur and a nut so I totally see that making more sense IRL. If you think about it, it certainly sets her apart from Suri Cruise, who is also 4 1/2. How AWFUL would it be for a super celeb to have a daughter close in age to another super celeb daughter who both love the same girly things - heels, dolls, etc. So ununique. Of course a kid could want to do this on their own, I don't doubt that but I smell a fake out with Angelina & Shiloh.
ITA. Just as their son Maddox sports a mohawk, ultra trendy cool clothes, etc. Cause I am sure a kid his age (at the time) knew sooo many other young kids with mohawks, etc. She loves attention, come on. She made out with her brother. To believe any of this is truly the child's inborn desire boggles my mind (in this case, once again).
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| Posted 12/9/10 7:36 PM |
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Re: Angelina Jolie addresses daughter's boyish style, admits Shiloh wanted to be called "John".
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Sorry I find the whole things strange. JMHO This kid is going to be so confused....
I agree. Unless she truely is transgender but something tells me that's not the case.
There are lots of little girls that grow up with older brothers and dont want to dress like a boy, act like a boy or wants to be called by a boys name
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