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Re: Any experience with babies NOT being good sleepers?
Posted by Blissful
Your friends and family can all tell you what they want but to be honest... it may not even be true 
yeah, I've come to also realize that alot of moms are full of shite. 
ETA: Even me sometimes
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Re: Any experience with babies NOT being good sleepers?
Posted by Blissful
I wish you luck when your baby comes... Just remember that if they scheduling thing doesn't work for your baby, which it doesn't for many.... its ok to feed on demand and that its ok that your baby doesn't STTN right away...It's COMPLETELY NORMAL!
there will be TONS of moms on here awake at 3am rocking and feeding their babies like you... exhausted and sleep deprived and you can come on here and post and we'll send you hugs!
Mommy hood is hard.....
I know Mommyhood is hard...I never said I thought it was easy. Hardest job out there if you ask me. And I was in no way attacking anyone who doesn't have a baby who STTN...I applaud you all. Heck I don't even have a baby yet and I read this Parenting board daily saving lots of your posts with the great advice I see you all give. I should have realized I shouldn't be brave enough to post on a parenting board until I am one myself...forgive me please. I'll continue to lurk and save away until I am priveledged enough to post on the parenting board
And trust me like I said I'll be the first to come here if I have a bad sleeper and look for advice...I have no shame. I'll be here looking for hugs when I need them!...thanks.
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Re: Any experience with babies NOT being good sleepers?
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it's fine not to believe in feeding on demand in theory, but in practice i can't imagine how in the world you don't feed a hungry newborn. i have 2 babies, one who is 7 weeks old, and you HAVE to feed her when she's hungry. i can put off feeding her for 10-15 minutes, but more than that isn't healthy for her. a newborn screams bloody murder and will start turning red when she's hungry and not fed.
And just to add (because it was mentioned by the other poster) increasing the amount of formula in the bottle doesn't always work, babies' stomachs are only so big and they will spit up the excess formula (or pumped BM) if they aren't ready for it.
yes they will!!! all over your shirt, pants, carpet, bed, couch.....(and for me that's just in the last 2 days!)
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Re: Any experience with babies NOT being good sleepers?
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yes they will!!! all over your shirt, pants, carpet, bed, couch.....(and for me that's just in the last 2 days!)
Pfffftttt - I get that at each feeding! 
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Re: Any experience with babies NOT being good sleepers?
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Posted by headoverheels
Posted by browneyedgirl
it's fine not to believe in feeding on demand in theory, but in practice i can't imagine how in the world you don't feed a hungry newborn. i have 2 babies, one who is 7 weeks old, and you HAVE to feed her when she's hungry. i can put off feeding her for 10-15 minutes, but more than that isn't healthy for her. a newborn screams bloody murder and will start turning red when she's hungry and not fed.
And just to add (because it was mentioned by the other poster) increasing the amount of formula in the bottle doesn't always work, babies' stomachs are only so big and they will spit up the excess formula (or pumped BM) if they aren't ready for it.
yes they will!!! all over your shirt, pants, carpet, bed, couch.....(and for me that's just in the last 2 days!)
I'm having memories of A spitting up all over the sling
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Re: Any experience with babies NOT being good sleepers?
Posted by ruby
Posted by Blissful
Your friends and family can all tell you what they want but to be honest... it may not even be true
yeah, I've come to also realize that alot of moms are full of shite.
ETA: Even me sometimes
I completely understand and agree with you...but like I said (I keep saying like I said but I feel like people only read what they want to) I have worked with and seen first hand how good scheduling a baby can work and how it is possible to have a baby STTN at 8 weeks.
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Re: Any experience with babies NOT being good sleepers?
Posted by MrsFlatbread
Posted by headoverheels
That's because you're not feeding him enough
or perhaps he wanted to be on a stricter feeding schedule?
Yes I can detect your sarcasm
I'm officially scarred and running away, back to the pregnancy boards. Sorry if I offended anyone...it was not meant in that way.
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| Posted 1/7/10 11:25 AM |
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Re: Any experience with babies NOT being good sleepers?
My son is 13 months and still doesn't STTN. Both my kids are horrible sleepers.
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Re: Any experience with babies NOT being good sleepers?
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But if she was used to eating every 3 hours..why didn't she wake up to eat every 3 hours at night? I feel like Im missing something? 
Thank you, this is my question also. We woke to feed for the first three weeks, soon they fell into a loose schedule of eating every three hours so now I feed on demand. But they eat every three hours, sometimes four hours, 24 hours a day!
This is how it worked for me too, Carolyn. They started to go longer stretches at around 3-4 months. At around 5 months it went down to 1 feeding a night. At 6 months DD stopped waking up for that feeding. DS I continued to feed for another month or two and then decided he didn't need to eat anymore at night, he was doing it because he was used to it. At that point I wouldn't go in to feed him unless it was 5am or later.
Oh crap - 3/4 months?  
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browneyedgirl
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Re: Any experience with babies NOT being good sleepers?
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Posted by MrsFlatbread
Posted by headoverheels
That's because you're not feeding him enough
or perhaps he wanted to be on a stricter feeding schedule?
Yes I can detect your sarcasm
I'm officially scarred and running away, back to the pregnancy boards. Sorry if I offended anyone...it was not meant in that way.
you don't need to not post here! no one is trying to make you go away, we just want you to realize that many moms lie, most babies won't sleep through the night for months---THAT is the rule not the exception, and not feeding on demand may sound good but is not very probable (or smart) for a young baby.
if a dozen plus moms all say the same thing there's probably some truth to it don't you think?
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Re: Any experience with babies NOT being good sleepers?
Posted by browneyedgirl
if a dozen plus moms all say the same thing there's probably some truth to it don't you think?
I get what you're saying...I do. But I have seen first hand (not moms who have told me b/c I know some are full of sh!t)...the families I worked for plus my many siblings and DH's siblings...so that is a dozen plus moms I know who have experienced the complete opposite of what you're all saying here. So forgive me if I find the attacks for things I have seen work with my own eyes a little scary.
OK back to pregnancy boards for real this time...I'll return when I'm officially accepted here. Good luck to all!
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Re: Any experience with babies NOT being good sleepers?
Posted by NYchic
Posted by browneyedgirl
if a dozen plus moms all say the same thing there's probably some truth to it don't you think?
I get what you're saying...I do. But I have seen first hand (not moms who have told me b/c I know some are full of sh!t)...the families I worked for plus my many siblings and DH's siblings...so that is a dozen plus moms I know who have experienced the complete opposite of what you're all saying here. So forgive me if I find the attacks for things I have seen work with my own eyes a little scary.
OK back to pregnancy boards for real this time...I'll return when I'm officially accepted here. Good luck to all!
I didn't know this before I had DS, so I will warn you--his waking up has nothing to do with hunger. He wakes 10-15 times a night, every time the pacifier falls out, and he is not yet self-soothing himself back to sleep.
Sometimes, no matter how scheduled you are, these things happen. I don't feel that CIO is right for me and DS, so I wake for him, and put the pacifier back in...10-15 times a night, even still at 6 months.
When it first happened I searched for old threads by other moms on here, who were wonderful but no one had a solution so we all just complain together!
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Re: Any experience with babies NOT being good sleepers?
I actually think you have a point after reading your posts. I am a CIO failure and I tried for a LONG time to have my kids. When they got here I didn't feel right about letting them sit alone in their cribs and cry. It killed me to think that they were hungry or scared and needed me and I wouldn't come. Ergo-why my kids didn't STTN til 9 months. It definitely had a LOT to do with me. Yes-at 6 months My Dr told me they can conceptualize-Mommy's here she's just not coming
I am too much of a softie. I think if you have the will to be able to resist going to your baby's room to feed them they will eventually STTN. However-a newborn(up until around 16 weeks) needs to eat to build up their strength and immunity.
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Re: Any experience with babies NOT being good sleepers?
Yes, me too! Not at all offended if someone says I am lucky - b/c I feel VERY lucky!
DS has been STTN since he was about 1 1/2 months. We had NO schedule. I fed him when he wanted it. We started putting him in the swing b/c he slept so good in there. The first time it was from about 12AM-6:30 or so and both DH and I thought the other must have gotten up with him, but nope. We kept him in the swing for a week or so but then went back to the bassinet and swaddled him. He has been an excellent sleeper since then - through really no effort of ours, so yes - VERY LUCKY!
I actually feel bad about it sometimes b/c I know what others have gone through. My brother and SIL have a 14 MO son who didn't STTN till after he was 6 months and he still sometimes doesn't. And they are much more regimented then us.
I honestly tell DS everyday how much mommy and daddy appreciate him! 
Good luck to you though - I would be interested to hear how it goes.
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Re: Any experience with babies NOT being good sleepers?
I agree with DrMom.
I am to blame for a lot of sleeping habits.
1-he was a bf baby and I had an oversupply. if he did not eat, the pump would have to come out.
2-We are not CIO people.
3-My baby was allergy stricken and screamed a lot on his own.
4-I had no family or friends here...
I was out with baby a lot. I am not a homebody...so I fully expected him to nap in the stroller.
That was a no go.
5-I over did it. Never wanted him to be upset, hungry, scared, wet, lonely.
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Re: Any experience with babies NOT being good sleepers?
Posted by DRMom
I actually think you have a point after reading your posts. I am a CIO failure and I tried for a LONG time to have my kids. When they got here I didn't feel right about letting them sit alone in their cribs and cry. It killed me to think that they were hungry or scared and needed me and I wouldn't come. Ergo-why my kids didn't STTN til 9 months. It definitely had a LOT to do with me. Yes-at 6 months My Dr told me they can conceptualize-Mommy's here she's just not coming
I am too much of a softie. I think if you have the will to be able to resist going to your baby's room to feed them they will eventually STTN. However-a newborn(up until around 16 weeks) needs to eat to build up their strength and immunity.
CIO doesn't always work either. I have done it with DS since he was 5.5 months and he still doesn't STTN at 12 months. We just let him cry when he wakes up. He goes back to sleep on his own, but he still wakes up and so do I.
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Re: Any experience with babies NOT being good sleepers?
Posted by NYchic
OK back to pregnancy boards for real this time...I'll return when I'm officially accepted here. Good luck to all!
I just wanted to tell you that I know what you're talking about. I mentioned it earlier in the thread, but people apparently read over it.
I AM a mom. I have a 2.5 year old daughter and she slept through the night at 6 weeks old, and still does. I think maybe 10 times in her life she's woken up at night.
At first, she fell asleep in her swing, but we never left her in there all night. She was always transferred to her crib or bassinet after she fell asleep.
Eventually, we cut out the swing step and she still slept amazingly well.
We kept her on a strict eating schedule at that age because it helped her thrive. She ate every 3 hours....and I was still able to maintain a life (as someone implied earlier was impossible.)
She never screamed until she turned red because she was so hungry. She generally got hungry about 3 hours after the last feeding, so it worked perfectly.
We worked hard when she was that little to keep her life on schedule. And I think that is a big part of the reason she slept so well. I think luck and genetics played a part as well.
And I am in no way saying that it will work with every baby. Nothing does, so it's stupid to say that. I am speaking from experience. MY experience. And it worked for me, so there's a chance that it could happen for another baby....so when asked, I will share my advice.
I find the tone of some of the people on this thread a little condescending.
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Re: Any experience with babies NOT being good sleepers?
i am one of the exception mom's were DS has been STTN since 5 weeks old. He slept in his crib from day one & was FF at night. We use to put him down at 10-11 & he would sleep until 5ish. Then I would feed him & he would go back down until 8...I know I was just lucky that DS did this...I still remember the firsy night waking up in a panic bc he did not wake for his 3am feeding
Your DC is doing exactly what is the norm
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Re: Any experience with babies NOT being good sleepers?
Posted by Palebride
I just wanted to tell you that I know what you're talking about. I mentioned it earlier in the thread, but people apparently read over it.
I AM a mom. I have a 2.5 year old daughter and she slept through the night at 6 weeks old, and still does. I think maybe 10 times in her life she's woken up at night.
At first, she fell asleep in her swing, but we never left her in there all night. She was always transferred to her crib or bassinet after she fell asleep.
Eventually, we cut out the swing step and she still slept amazingly well.
We kept her on a strict eating schedule at that age because it helped her thrive. She ate every 3 hours....and I was still able to maintain a life (as someone implied earlier was impossible.)
She never screamed until she turned red because she was so hungry. She generally got hungry about 3 hours after the last feeding, so it worked perfectly.
We worked hard when she was that little to keep her life on schedule. And I think that is a big part of the reason she slept so well. I think luck and genetics played a part as well.
And I am in no way saying that it will work with every baby. Nothing does, so it's stupid to say that. I am speaking from experience. MY experience. And it worked for me, so there's a chance that it could happen for another baby....so when asked, I will share my advice.
I find the tone of some of the people on this thread a little condescending.
Thanks for this. I couldn't agree with you more re the feeding schedule. I didn't get into responding to people who asked what you do when the baby is screaming....since I'm not yet a mom I didn't want to get blasted for even answering that question. But totally agree with you - babies on strict feeding schedules don't get to that bloody murder screaming point. At least the 6 newborns I worked with over the years never did. Like you said if you feed them on schedule...they are not hungry until it's time to eat. I had times where they maybe started to fuss a half hour before it was time to eat. A pacifier usually held them over or just holding and rocking them and singing to them to calm them down. Did I ever feed a baby 10 minutes before the strict scheduled time? Absolutely. An hour before - never had that problem because they were never fussing that early.
Thanks for the reply...nice to see not everyone thinks I'm crazy. It's funny the mom's of babies who STTN are the only ones who see I have a point.
And ITA on the tone around here
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Re: Any experience with babies NOT being good sleepers?
Posted by NYchic
Thanks for this. I couldn't agree with you more re the feeding schedule. I didn't get into responding to people who asked what you do when the baby is screaming....since I'm not yet a mom I didn't want to get blasted for even answering that question. But totally agree with you - babies on strict feeding schedules don't get to that bloody murder screaming point. At least the 6 newborns I worked with over the years never did. Like you said if you feed them on schedule...they are not hungry until it's time to eat. I had times where they maybe started to fuss a half hour before it was time to eat. A pacifier usually held them over or just holding and rocking them and singing to them to calm them down. Did I ever feed a baby 10 minutes before the strict scheduled time? Absolutely. An hour before - never had that problem because they were never fussing that early.
Thanks for the reply...nice to see not everyone thinks I'm crazy. It's funny the mom's of babies who STTN are the only ones who see I have a point.
And ITA on the tone around here
I don't really understand your logic of babies who are on schedules don't get hungry until their scheduled feeding time. Are you always hungry at the same time every day? I agree that some babies need a routine, but that doesn't mean they're never going to deviate from that routine. What about during growth spurts? Babies eat all the time during growth spurts. I can't imagine that scheduling works with most babies during those periods. Schedule or not, if you hold off from feeding a hungry baby, you'll likely hear them scream.
I never let DS get to a point when he was screaming bloody murder for food b/c when he was hungry, I fed him.
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