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WannaBeAMom11
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Anyone have to fight with the school district to get services for their child?
Sorry, this is long.
My dd was evaluated for speech in June. She just turned 3. The scores were based on 85 and above being average. She scored high 80s and 90s so wasn't given services. Daycare called us in for a meeting in Nov because she was talking but still having clarity issues which was causing her to be frustrated and act out. They suggested we have her re-evaluated through the school but since we had her evaluated technically In July we had to wait to Jan. 6 month wait per school district.
I got her registration through in Jan. Her evaluations for speech and OT are being done this month and our meeting is early March. In the meantime I've had her in private speech. She had her evaluation on Wed and the therapist just called. Again average score is 85. One part she scored 75 and the others were average but only an 86, 87 and 91. The therapist said most districts will not give help for one below area average and to hope she scores low in the OT because the district is more than likely give services if she qualifies in one area.
I'm so frustrated. She needs help. A bit of help will go a long way with my dd and I feel like they just wanted her to keep dropping before they give us services. Her scores have decreased but not enough. Her private services even with insurance is expensive and financially I don't know how much longer I can keep her in private services.
She starts prek in sept and the district just says if she doesn't qualify now then she will get re-evaluated in another 6 months to see if her scores drop more or if she is disruptive in the class, which she is per her daycare teachers. I'm at a loss and I just asked dh to come with me to the March meeting because I feel like my dd is being shafted and I don't want to go in there and lose it.
Dh had a horrible time in school because of issues like this and I'm trying to get her help now so she doesn't hate school and fall behind.
Any tips on dealing with the district? I just want dd to get the services she needs now.
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Re: Anyone have to fight with the school district to get services for their child?
So my dd spoke like miney mouse from ages 2-4. I could understand her, but she has speech issues. I took her for multiple evaluations and the consensus was to wait because her jaw was small and nothing could be done until it grew. The speech pathologists all agreed that at ages two and three they could not help us,mane it was frustrating. There was no cognition issue. She learned to read at four. She was able to do math as well. I started her in kindergarten at four and that is when she qualified for speech. She started three days a week and is now down to once a week in second grade. Her only letter problem is S and the speech teacher said it is a third grade letter.
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| Posted 2/17/17 5:49 PM |
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ChristinaM128
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Re: Anyone have to fight with the school district to get services for their child?
Which area received the standard score of 75? You should really focus on that area, and play up the impact on her overall functioning (i.e. Other students don't understand her, so she's falling behind socially; it's affecting her ability to provide sounds that the letters make; she's acting out in frustration, etc.). My dd only had one area below on her pt eval, but the district gave cpse svc because I played up how she can't play on the playground with her peers, so she's falling behind socially, etc.
Also, be sure to emphasize the importance of help now so that she's not needed to be classified come age 5. Also ask about what building level services they do have at K level.
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| Posted 2/17/17 5:54 PM |
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WannaBeAMom11
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Re: Anyone have to fight with the school district to get services for their child?
Posted by ChristinaM128
Which area received the standard score of 75? You should really focus on that area, and play up the impact on her overall functioning (i.e. Other students don't understand her, so she's falling behind socially; it's affecting her ability to provide sounds that the letters make; she's acting out in frustration, etc.). My dd only had one area below on her pt eval, but the district gave cpse svc because I played up how she can't play on the playground with her peers, so she's falling behind socially, etc.
Also, be sure to emphasize the importance of help now so that she's not needed to be classified come age 5. Also ask about what building level services they do have at K level.
I'm getting the written evaluation next week so I can see what scored a 75 and thank you so much for that advice.
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| Posted 2/17/17 5:56 PM |
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WannaBeAMom11
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Re: Anyone have to fight with the school district to get services for their child?
Posted by LSP2005
So my dd spoke like miney mouse from ages 2-4. I could understand her, but she has speech issues. I took her for multiple evaluations and the consensus was to wait because her jaw was small and nothing could be done until it grew. The speech pathologists all agreed that at ages two and three they could not help us,mane it was frustrating. There was no cognition issue. She learned to read at four. She was able to do math as well. I started her in kindergarten at four and that is when she qualified for speech. She started three days a week and is now down to once a week in second grade. Her only letter problem is S and the speech teacher said it is a third grade letter.
Thank you. Her s sound is actually the one her speech teacher had been working on. Now they are working on the ch sounds since her ch sounds like t's
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| Posted 2/17/17 6:32 PM |
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ChristinaM128
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Re: Anyone have to fight with the school district to get services for their child?
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Posted by ChristinaM128
Which area received the standard score of 75? You should really focus on that area, and play up the impact on her overall functioning (i.e. Other students don't understand her, so she's falling behind socially; it's affecting her ability to provide sounds that the letters make; she's acting out in frustration, etc.). My dd only had one area below on her pt eval, but the district gave cpse svc because I played up how she can't play on the playground with her peers, so she's falling behind socially, etc.
Also, be sure to emphasize the importance of help now so that she's not needed to be classified come age 5. Also ask about what building level services they do have at K level.
I'm getting the written evaluation next week so I can see what scored a 75 and thank you so much for that advice.
No problem at all. You also can emphasis that even though those two scores in the upper 80s are within normal limits, they are at the low end of the average range; and given that her other score is a 75, that will make it harder for her to try to compensate. It's low paired with weak and weak...
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| Posted 2/17/17 8:51 PM |
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ChristinaM128
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Re: Anyone have to fight with the school district to get services for their child?
The district also needs to take into account that she scores high 80s WITH current therapy. Your present slt should participate in the case meeting and fight that she requires intervention
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| Posted 2/17/17 8:56 PM |
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Re: Anyone have to fight with the school district to get services for their child?
I just had my daughter's CPSE this week. She is 2 years, 8 months. Some background...
My one and only concern was/is her articulation and speech intelligibility. Her vocab is good, receptive language is good. No cognitive, fine/gross motor concerns at all.
I had her evaluated through EI in July (she was 25 months). She didn't qualify. They do not address articulation in EI at 2 years old. They only test for delays in communication. Because her receptive language is fine and she would gesture to get us to understand her, she didn't qualify. Her scores weren't even close to being low enough. The evaluators told me to request an eval through the school district in the fall if I was still concerned because they will address articulation. She was eligible this January (the January of the year she turns 3). I put the referral in December and the evaluations were in January. Her cognitive scores again were fine (upper limits of average and above average). Her speech scores didn't even come up THAT low. Her overall language was a standard score of 84. The evaluator said we may have to fight the district for services because her scores weren't terrible. HOWEVER, in her report, she included a speech sample where she wrote out my daughter's production of sentences and then the intended sentence (I had to translate a lot of what she was saying for the SLP b/c didn't understand her a few times). She stated that her overall speech intelligibility was fair/poor at the single word level. She also said despite her scores in the low average range, articulation and phonology skills are significantly impaired and therefore, recommended services. Thank God for that because her scores alone wouldn't have qualified her.
I also told them that my biggest concern is her not being able to communicate effectively with her teachers at pre-school. She has life-threatening allergies and needs an Epi-Pen. She needs to be able to make teachers or any caregiver aware if she can't breathe, or is having any other symptoms. I think that really helped my case.
They gave her Speech 3 days a week! I was shocked (in a good way). No fight whatsoever. Easiest CPSE/CSE meeting ever (and I sit on A LOT of CSE meetings at work).
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Re: Anyone have to fight with the school district to get services for their child?
I would definitely NOT focus on her articulation. Since she is so young a lot of administrators will say they don't give speech just for articulation.
Def go over her report, see where her weaknesses are and stress how they are going to affect her ability to learn in the natural environment. I would also state that she is currently receiving services and tends to regress when services are not in place. (holidays illness cancellations etc)
Good luck!
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Re: Anyone have to fight with the school district to get services for their child?
Unfortunately it will always be a fight with the SD because they are trying to save as much money as possible. It is sad. My son is non verbal and lower functioning ASD and they won't even give him home services outside of what he gets at school. They told me to go through my insurance. Sad.
ETA you can look into hiring a parent advocate.
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ChristinaM128
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Re: Anyone have to fight with the school district to get services for their child?
Posted by babyfever24
I would definitely NOT focus on her articulation. Since she is so young a lot of administrators will say they don't give speech just for articulation.
Def go over her report, see where her weaknesses are and stress how they are going to affect her ability to learn in the natural environment. I would also state that she is currently receiving services and tends to regress when services are not in place. (holidays illness cancellations etc)
Good luck!
Unfortunately though, CPSE is the only body that will give speech for artic. CSE doesn't give it for artic unless it's REALLY severe, and EI doesn't give it b/c kids are too young to be deemed fully intelligible anyways. So it's worth the fight to try to get the artic covered while she's still under CPSE.
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KarenK122
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Re: Anyone have to fight with the school district to get services for their child?
Posted by ChristinaM128
Posted by babyfever24
I would definitely NOT focus on her articulation. Since she is so young a lot of administrators will say they don't give speech just for articulation.
Def go over her report, see where her weaknesses are and stress how they are going to affect her ability to learn in the natural environment. I would also state that she is currently receiving services and tends to regress when services are not in place. (holidays illness cancellations etc)
Good luck!
Unfortunately though, CPSE is the only body that will give speech for artic. CSE doesn't give it for artic unless it's REALLY severe, and EI doesn't give it b/c kids are too young to be deemed fully intelligible anyways. So it's worth the fight to try to get the artic covered while she's still under CPSE.
Actually what I have found is that the opposite was true. They do not focus on articulation at such a young age and focus more on it at school age. i would just go through my insurance and have them pay for speech. If she is testing high in the other areas and unless it is affecting her school work it is going to be an uphill battle to get services.
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