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Cheese Sandwiches
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ALBUQUERQUE, N.M. – A cold cheese sandwich, fruit and a milk carton might not seem like much of a meal — but that's what's on the menu for students in New Mexico's largest school district without their lunch money.
Faced with mounting unpaid lunch charges in the economic downturn, Albuquerque Public Schools last month instituted a "cheese sandwich policy," serving the alternative meals to children whose parents are supposed to be able to pay for some or all of their regular meals but fail to pick up the tab.
Such policies have become a necessity for schools seeking to keep budgets in the black while ensuring children don't go hungry. School districts including those in Chula Vista, Calif.; Hillsborough County, Fla.; and Lynnwood, Wash.; have also taken to serving cheese sandwiches to children with delinquent lunch accounts.
Critics argue the cold meals are a form of punishment for children whose parents can't afford to pay. Parents who qualify for free meals are not affected.
"We've heard stories from moms coming in saying their child was pulled out of the lunch line and given a cheese sandwich," said Nancy Pope, director of the New Mexico Collaborative to End Hunger. "One woman said her daughter never wants to go back to school."
Some Albuquerque parents have tearfully pleaded with school board members to stop singling out their children because they're poor, while others have flooded talk radio shows thanking the district for imposing a policy that commands parental responsibility.
Second-grader Danessa Vigil said she will never eat sliced cheese again. She had to eat cheese sandwiches because her mother couldn't afford to give her lunch money while her application for free lunch was being processed.
"Every time I eat it, it makes me feel like I want to throw up," the 7-year-old said.
Her mother, Darlene Vigil, said there are days she can't spare lunch money for her two daughters.
"Some parents don't have even $1 sometimes," the 27-year-old single mother said. "If they do, it's for something else, like milk at home. There are some families that just don't have it and that's the reason they're not paying."
Albuquerque Public Schools students receive a cheese sandwich in lieu of a hot meal if they have exceeded a set amount of meals charged to their account, ranging from two at high schools to 10 at elementary schools. The schools' Web site warns: "Once the charging limit is met, students will be offered an alternate meal consisting of a cheese sandwich and a beverage."
The School Nutrition Association recently surveyed nutrition directors from 38 states and found more than half of school districts have seen an increase in the number of students charging meals, while 79 percent saw an increase in the number of free lunches served over the last year.
In New Mexico, nearly 204,000 low-income students — about three-fifths of public school students — received free or reduced-price lunches at the beginning of the school year, according to the state Public Education Department.
"What you are seeing is families struggling and having a really hard time, and school districts are struggling as well," said Crystal FitzSimons of the national Food Research and Action Center.
In Albuquerque, unpaid lunch charges hovered around $55,000 in 2006. That jumped to $130,000 at the end of the 2007-08 school year. It was $140,000 through the first five months of this school year.
Charges were on pace to reach $300,000 by the end of the year. Mary Swift, director of Albuquerque's food and nutrition services, said her department had no way to absorb that debt as it had in the past.
"We can't use any federal lunch program money to pay what they call bad debt. It has to come out of the general budget and of course that takes it from some other department," Swift said.
With the new policy, the school district has collected just over $50,000 from parents since the beginning of the year. It also identified 2,000 students eligible to receive free or reduced-price lunches, and more children in the lunch program means more federal dollars for the district.
School officials said the policy was under consideration for some time and parents were notified last fall. Families with unpaid charges are reminded with an automated phone call each night and notes are sent home with children once a week.
Swift added that the cheese sandwiches — about 80 of the 46,000 meals the district serves daily — can be considered a "courtesy meal," rather than an alternate meal.
Some districts, she noted, don't allow children without money to eat anything.
Albuquerque Public Schools "has historically gone above and beyond as far as treating children with dignity and respect and trying to do what's best with for the child and I think this is just another example," Swift said.
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Posted 2/25/09 3:45 PM |
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Re: Cheese Sandwiches
I don't understand, if the parents are poor why are they not qualifying for free lunch? Are the standards for qualifying income set to low maybe?
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Posted 2/25/09 3:52 PM |
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MrsPJB2007
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Re: Cheese Sandwiches
While it does seem sad at first--at least they are giving the students SOME food. It appears that this is something that is happening after the parents have been notified that they can no longer charge the meals.
Honestly, a cheese sandwich, fruit, and milk is a pretty balanced meal considering the circumstances, its not like the kids are getting water and cracker.
At some point the schools have to do something if the costs are rising for those who aren't paying the cost of their child's school lunches.
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Posted 2/25/09 3:52 PM |
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what is so horrible about a cheese sandwich and fruit? that meal seems much healthier and easier to digest than french fries and pizza anyways.
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Posted 2/25/09 3:54 PM |
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Posted 2/25/09 3:55 PM |
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jxnoscar
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My mom MADE us cheese sandwiches for lunch.
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Posted 2/25/09 3:56 PM |
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Ambersmom
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I agree; at least it's something. I don't recall anyone getting any free food in my district growing up. You paid or you starved. It was that simple. Considering the schools are being stripped of funding, something is better than nothing.
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I got peanut butter and jelly every day, a cheese sandwich would have been a step up when I was little.
I don't see what the problem is here, these kids are getting fed, when the school is not obligated to give them free food. They are getting a well balanced meal.
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Posted 2/25/09 4:01 PM |
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Ophelia
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I think the problem is that the children may be Ostracized if it is known that a cheese sandwich, milk, and fruit is the "poor, debt ridden" kids meal.
but other than that, food is food. I am glad they are still feeding them. far too many children in THIS country go to bed hungry every night
I don't think we can just expect these debts to be absorbed ad infinitum.
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Posted 2/25/09 4:02 PM |
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MrsPJB2007
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In my school--if you didn't have money for lunch -- you had to go to the principal office and get $0.25 -- and they would note it and send a note home , and you could get a PB&J sandwich and a carton of milk for your lunch that day. I think 1 or 2x I forgot my lunch money and had to do that, not so bad at all to me.
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Posted 2/25/09 4:02 PM |
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Posted by cpanyc
I don't understand, if the parents are poor why are they not qualifying for free lunch? Are the standards for qualifying income set to low maybe?
In the article it did mention that more families were identified as qualifying for the lunch program.
I just think that kids could really get ostrasized (sp) that way. I feel bad for the kids that get pulled out of line.
It's a stigma..the kid eating the cheese sandwich has deadbeat parents..
Nothing against cheese sandwiches..just the way they go about it.
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neener1211
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I wanted to add, that is a better meal than I get sometimes even now! I can't tell you how many times I grab a ramen noodle package bc I didn't have lunch in the house to bring.
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Posted 2/25/09 4:02 PM |
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Lisa
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see nothing wrong with a cheese sandwich, fruit and milk. I like cheese sandwiches!!
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Posted 2/25/09 4:03 PM |
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I don't think it's nice to pull the kids out of line and make a whole spectacle of them getting the free meal. Nobody should be humiliated like that.
I don't think the meal itself is a bad one, my dd asks for a cheese sandwich with milk and an apple almost every day.
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Posted 2/25/09 4:04 PM |
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Honestly, I don't think this is terrible, but it needs some refining.
*at the HS level the number of lunches should be increasd to 10 l iet eh elementry befor ethe kids are cut off for allow time for teh free lunch applicaitons to be proccess.
*notices should be sent home about the free lunch program, in case qualifying families don't know about it.
*I'm not sure exactly how to work it, but children shouldn't be pulled off the lunch line & embarrased in front of their classmates.
*the qualifying income levels should be reviewed to make sure it is realistic (not sure if this nees to be done on the federal level & how long of a process it would be.
The school has to set limits, so people who can afford it don't take advantage, esepecially when there is federal $ avaialble for those who qualify. The schools can't afford to cover all those students because the families are embarrased, or uninformed about the federal prgram.
I am curious about how many families fall in the gap & truly can't afford lunches, but don't qualify for the program.
I do feel badly for those kids, but cheese & fruit is better than nothing at all.
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Posted by cpanyc
I don't understand, if the parents are poor why are they not qualifying for free lunch? Are the standards for qualifying income set to low maybe?
In the article it did mention that more families were identified as qualifying for the lunch program.
I just think that kids could really get ostrasized (sp) that way. I feel bad for the kids that get pulled out of line.
It's a stigma..the kid eating the cheese sandwich has deadbeat parents..
Nothing against cheese sandwiches..just the way they go about it.
And then you have the kids that are on free/reduced lunch (not all kids, I'm just saying) that take advantage of the system and think it is cool to get a free lunch, and try to send their friends up with their number to get a free lunch too.
Kids with numbers to get free/reduced lunch are just as singled out because all the kids already know that their family can't afford lunch either. Not saying that is a bad thing, bc there are many reasons why a family may qualify.
eta: I agree pulling a kid off line and making a spectacle is wrong-they could do that better.
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agree with pp. they are still getting a balanced meal.
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Posted 2/25/09 4:07 PM |
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Posted by CathyB
I don't think it's nice to pull the kids out of line and make a whole spectacle of them getting the free meal. Nobody should be humiliated like that.
This is what I see as the problem. I dont know how they can be more discreet but the schools are not in the position to give away meals, especially when it's at the potential expense of other programs in the school.
But it's ridiculous that a critic called a cold meal cruel.
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Posted 2/25/09 4:07 PM |
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being made acutely aware of how poor you are by your peers at a young age sucks. it really does. kids can be beaten down emotionally by money problems too...it's not an adult-only worry.
it's really a catch-22. you can't keep paying for the debt, but you don't want to not feed the kids, but the stringent meal plan for them makes them stick out like a sore thumb.
and while their friends get pizza and chicken nuggets (*barf *) you are eating a cold sandwich.
psychologically, it can be demoralizing.
but physically, it satisfies the need for basic nutrition.
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Posted 2/25/09 4:08 PM |
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MrsPJB2007
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Re: Cheese Sandwiches
While I agree that there could be a negative stigma to the kids who have to do this -- I really am not sure if I am believing this happens as dramatic as the article is stating. Since the whole kids being pulled out in line seems to be something that is being offered as a 3rd hand account -- and they said "they've HEARD stories" about it.
I'm sure they don't do it quite in such a horrible fashion everyday. But regardless -- yes it can stink for the kids who have to deal, but what other solution is there? No matter how they do it, whether its quietly or not, its gonna be hard for those who can't afford the lunch.
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Posted 2/25/09 4:09 PM |
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Posted by Ophelia
I think the problem is that the children may be Ostracized if it is known that a cheese sandwich, milk, and fruit is the "poor, debt ridden" kids meal.
Yeah, maybe if they had 2 low budget options, like PB & J or cheese, it wouldn't be so obvious, b/c some kids could be getting one of those just b/c they are picky eaters.
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Posted 2/25/09 4:09 PM |
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MarathonKnitter
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when i was growing up, the school didn't give ANYTHING for free.
there were kids who would go from table to table picking up what others didn't want.
i think that too many parents are STILL spoiled and they want a CREDIT on the lunches that they can't pay.
but i do agree, no child should be humiliated because they don't have lunch money.
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Posted 2/25/09 4:12 PM |
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LuvmyShihTzu
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Flame me if need be, but I think that it's NICE of the school to give free cheese sandwiches and milk! When I was in school, either I brought lunch or paid for it...there were never any handouts!
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Posted 2/25/09 4:17 PM |
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