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BaseballWidow
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Re: Cincinnati Zoo incident

Posted by BargainMama

Posted by BaseballWidow

I still can't figure this site out for the life of me.
Some days judgment is ok and other days it's the devil's work.
Or guess it just depends on the topic.
Hear about the woman who had 11 ppl in an 8 passenger SUV? 4of her daughter's were killed. Does she get a pass too?



I saw that story today, horrific. I can't even imagine losing 4 daughters and the pain and guilt she must feel. That is completely negligent to allow 11 people in a vehicle built for 7. Beyond sad, and so senseless Chat Icon She knew the risk when she was piling them in the car on laps. I do think it's a different scenario than the zoo situation though.




The outcome is more tragic, but IMO both situations are about parents, choices and resulting consequences. I wonder if ppl would be more critical if the boy was killed at the zoo?

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Re: Cincinnati Zoo incident

Posted by gina409

Posted by BaseballWidow

I still can't figure this site out for the life of me.
Some days judgment is ok and other days it's the devil's work.
Or guess it just depends on the topic.
Hear about the woman who had 11 ppl in an 8 passenger SUV? 4of her daughter's were killed. Does she get a pass too?



That's completely different



THAT'S negligent, textbook definition. She didn't accidentally pile 11 people unrestrained into a car. She didn't turn her back for a second and 3 people over the limit got into her car and they all unbuckled while she was driving. That was negligent from the get-go. That is clear negligence, just like drinking and driving or having a loaded handgun where kids can access it.

Posted 6/1/16 8:52 PM
 

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Re: Cincinnati Zoo incident

And there is a huge difference to say well she lost site for a second,wasn't her best moment,lapse in judgement

Than saying she is a sh1t,lousy,dumb,stupid and all the other names she was called.

Also ridiculous to spew the I would never...and that can never happen to me

Also questioning if she can control her kids,how many she has and the ages in between.


Like I said before. The lack of empathy from mothers is what has made me be like whoa

As mothers don't we all know that anything can happen anytime

And we shame this woman. Now we compare to a woman who purposely put 11 kids in a 7 passenger car

Posted 6/1/16 8:52 PM
 

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Re: Cincinnati Zoo incident

Posted by Sash

Posted by Lara&Aidansmommy

Posted by 2BadSoSad

For the record, she has deactivated her account.



Oh no I wonder whyChat Icon



She actually got kicked off... Well done ladies.


And we wonder why this site is so slow!



Why did she get kicked off?? Her opinion wasn't popular but she didn't do anything blatantly wrong that I could see? Unless I missed something she wrote...

Posted 6/1/16 8:53 PM
 

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Re: Cincinnati Zoo incident

Posted by JennP

Posted by Sash

Posted by 2BadSoSad

For the record, she has deactivated her account.



It's hard not to judge situations you hear, so please everyone stop acting like you don't ever judge.


Mic drop!



Another poster said something similar - Hofstra maybe? - about it being human nature to judge.

I compare judging (situations like this) to eating an entire sleeve of samoas in 15 minutes.

It's human nature to do both.

It seems justifiable, somehow, while you're doing both. "Well she was wrong." or "I had a tough day - I deserve these."

They both feel good.

BUT - you poison something either way. With the cookies you poison your body; with the judgment, you poison the world around you in small but cumulative ways by bringing others down for no good reason.

It's one thing to think it. It's another to say it, especially on a public forum, where there is pile upon pile of similar comments that add nothing of value to public discourse.

So I say, the next time you (general you) think about judging someone - especially without all the facts - I suggest you think: Is there something more useful I could be doing right now? Like, painting my toenails? Scrubbing the toilet? Screwing? Anything?

Because ladies, if we put the energy that we put into this into doing something like working for paid parental leave so moms and dads could take their babies to the zoo a little more often, we'd have it done in a week.



I get what you are saying but you should be allowed to voice your opinion/judgement without a posse jumping on you and acting like @ssholes.

I also don't get how it's ok to judge some things like my example i posted, but you can't make a comment like where the hell was the mom in this situation? I just don't think that's an insane statement or far off.

To each its own, the hypocrisy on this site is so frustrating and why I don't really post. I get tired of rolling my eyes. Lol

Posted 6/1/16 8:53 PM
 

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Re: Cincinnati Zoo incident

Posted by BaseballWidow

Posted by BargainMama

Posted by BaseballWidow

I still can't figure this site out for the life of me.
Some days judgment is ok and other days it's the devil's work.
Or guess it just depends on the topic.
Hear about the woman who had 11 ppl in an 8 passenger SUV? 4of her daughter's were killed. Does she get a pass too?



I saw that story today, horrific. I can't even imagine losing 4 daughters and the pain and guilt she must feel. That is completely negligent to allow 11 people in a vehicle built for 7. Beyond sad, and so senseless Chat Icon She knew the risk when she was piling them in the car on laps. I do think it's a different scenario than the zoo situation though.




The outcome is more tragic, but IMO both situations are about parents, choices and resulting consequences. I wonder if ppl would be more critical if the boy was killed at the zoo?




She chose to put those kids in the car

Does that mean this mother chose for her kid to go. Like she said see you later.

I don't understand this at all I'm sorry

Posted 6/1/16 8:54 PM
 

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Re: Cincinnati Zoo incident

Posted by Sash

Posted by JennP

Posted by Sash

Posted by 2BadSoSad

For the record, she has deactivated her account.



It's hard not to judge situations you hear, so please everyone stop acting like you don't ever judge.


Mic drop!



Another poster said something similar - Hofstra maybe? - about it being human nature to judge.

I compare judging (situations like this) to eating an entire sleeve of samoas in 15 minutes.

It's human nature to do both.

It seems justifiable, somehow, while you're doing both. "Well she was wrong." or "I had a tough day - I deserve these."

They both feel good.

BUT - you poison something either way. With the cookies you poison your body; with the judgment, you poison the world around you in small but cumulative ways by bringing others down for no good reason.

It's one thing to think it. It's another to say it, especially on a public forum, where there is pile upon pile of similar comments that add nothing of value to public discourse.

So I say, the next time you (general you) think about judging someone - especially without all the facts - I suggest you think: Is there something more useful I could be doing right now? Like, painting my toenails? Scrubbing the toilet? Screwing? Anything?

Because ladies, if we put the energy that we put into this into doing something like working for paid parental leave so moms and dads could take their babies to the zoo a little more often, we'd have it done in a week.



I get what you are saying but you should be allowed to voice your opinion/judgement without a posse jumping on you and acting like @ssholes.

I also don't get how it's ok to judge some things like my example i posted, but you can't make a comment like where the hell was the mom in this situation? I just don't think that's an insane statement or far off.

To each its own, the hypocrisy on this site is so frustrating and why I don't really post. I get tired of rolling my eyes. Lol



What I can tell you, from my own POV is that my problem with this thread (and the internet's reaction in general) was the HATE, Vitriol, spewed at this woman, the angry villagers with pitchforks demanding her head on a platter, those who called her names like lousy mother, who said she failed as a mother, over a snapshot of her entire life as a mother, etc and less with people thinking she was responsible.

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Posted 6/1/16 8:56 PM
 

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Re: Cincinnati Zoo incident

Posted by Sash

Posted by JennP

Posted by Sash

Posted by 2BadSoSad

For the record, she has deactivated her account.



It's hard not to judge situations you hear, so please everyone stop acting like you don't ever judge.


Mic drop!



Another poster said something similar - Hofstra maybe? - about it being human nature to judge.

I compare judging (situations like this) to eating an entire sleeve of samoas in 15 minutes.

It's human nature to do both.

It seems justifiable, somehow, while you're doing both. "Well she was wrong." or "I had a tough day - I deserve these."

They both feel good.

BUT - you poison something either way. With the cookies you poison your body; with the judgment, you poison the world around you in small but cumulative ways by bringing others down for no good reason.

It's one thing to think it. It's another to say it, especially on a public forum, where there is pile upon pile of similar comments that add nothing of value to public discourse.

So I say, the next time you (general you) think about judging someone - especially without all the facts - I suggest you think: Is there something more useful I could be doing right now? Like, painting my toenails? Scrubbing the toilet? Screwing? Anything?

Because ladies, if we put the energy that we put into this into doing something like working for paid parental leave so moms and dads could take their babies to the zoo a little more often, we'd have it done in a week.



I get what you are saying but you should be allowed to voice your opinion/judgement without a posse jumping on you and acting like @ssholes.

I also don't get how it's ok to judge some things like my example i posted, but you can't make a comment like where the hell was the mom in this situation? I just don't think that's an insane statement or far off.

To each its own, the hypocrisy on this site is so frustrating and why I don't really post. I get tired of rolling my eyes. Lol




Plenty of people said where is he mom. Or she had a moment of weakness

But some questioned her entire existence of parenting. Judged her for how many kids she had and how far apart in age they were

To say that would never happen to me...to use that mantra is like breaking the mom code to me

Posted 6/1/16 8:56 PM
 

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Re: Cincinnati Zoo incident

Posted by shadows

Posted by Sash

Posted by Lara&Aidansmommy

Posted by 2BadSoSad

For the record, she has deactivated her account.



Oh no I wonder whyChat Icon



She actually got kicked off... Well done ladies.


And we wonder why this site is so slow!



Why did she get kicked off?? Her opinion wasn't popular but she didn't do anything blatantly wrong that I could see? Unless I missed something she wrote...



I think she reference the C unt word for a hot second and got reported. But I didn't see it, this is all assumption.

Posted 6/1/16 8:56 PM
 

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Re: Cincinnati Zoo incident

Posted by gina409

And there is a huge difference to say well she lost site for a second,wasn't her best moment,lapse in judgement

Than saying she is a sh1t,lousy,dumb,stupid and all the other names she was called.

Also ridiculous to spew the I would never...and that can never happen to me

Also questioning if she can control her kids,how many she has and the ages in between.


Like I said before. The lack of empathy from mothers is what has made me be like whoa

As mothers don't we all know that anything can happen anytime

And we shame this woman. Now we compare to a woman who purposely put 11 kids in a 7 passenger car




I never said any of those things about the mother at the zoo. I do think she has blame though in that situation.
My point about the other story is for those to say to never judge. Never say never works in many situations, no?
I'd like to see them hold their thoughts on that one....what with how accepting they are all the time.

Posted 6/1/16 8:56 PM
 

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Re: Cincinnati Zoo incident

And now we kicked her off?


That's on us? Seriously

Posted 6/1/16 8:57 PM
 

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Re: Cincinnati Zoo incident

Posted by shadows

Posted by Sash

Posted by Lara&Aidansmommy

Posted by 2BadSoSad

For the record, she has deactivated her account.



Oh no I wonder whyChat Icon



She actually got kicked off... Well done ladies.


And we wonder why this site is so slow!



Why did she get kicked off?? Her opinion wasn't popular but she didn't do anything blatantly wrong that I could see? Unless I missed something she wrote...



No idea......

Posted 6/1/16 8:58 PM
 

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Re: Cincinnati Zoo incident

Posted by BaseballWidow

Posted by gina409

And there is a huge difference to say well she lost site for a second,wasn't her best moment,lapse in judgement

Than saying she is a sh1t,lousy,dumb,stupid and all the other names she was called.

Also ridiculous to spew the I would never...and that can never happen to me

Also questioning if she can control her kids,how many she has and the ages in between.


Like I said before. The lack of empathy from mothers is what has made me be like whoa

As mothers don't we all know that anything can happen anytime



And we shame this woman. Now we compare to a woman who purposely put 11 kids in a 7 passenger car




I never said any of those things about the mother at the zoo. I do think she has blame though in that situation.
My point about the other story is for those to say to never judge. Never say never works in many situations, no?
I'd like to see them hold their thoughts on that one....what with how accepting they are all the time.



Of course it does. But not in a situation where a mother knowingly put too many people in a car

It's like apples and oranges to me

Posted 6/1/16 8:58 PM
 

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Re: Cincinnati Zoo incident

Posted by Sash

Posted by shadows

Posted by Sash

Posted by Lara&Aidansmommy

Posted by 2BadSoSad

For the record, she has deactivated her account.



Oh no I wonder whyChat Icon



She actually got kicked off... Well done ladies.


And we wonder why this site is so slow!



Why did she get kicked off?? Her opinion wasn't popular but she didn't do anything blatantly wrong that I could see? Unless I missed something she wrote...



I think she reference the C unt word for a hot second and got reported. But I didn't see it, this is all assumption.



No. Someone else used the c word.

Posted 6/1/16 8:59 PM
 

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Re: Cincinnati Zoo incident

Posted by Sash

Posted by shadows

Posted by Sash

Posted by Lara&Aidansmommy

Posted by 2BadSoSad

For the record, she has deactivated her account.



Oh no I wonder whyChat Icon



She actually got kicked off... Well done ladies.


And we wonder why this site is so slow!



Why did she get kicked off?? Her opinion wasn't popular but she didn't do anything blatantly wrong that I could see? Unless I missed something she wrote...



I think she reference the C unt word for a hot second and got reported. But I didn't see it, this is all assumption.



That c u next Tuesday comment was someone else I think

Posted 6/1/16 9:00 PM
 

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Re: Cincinnati Zoo incident

Posted by gina409

Posted by Sash

Posted by JennP

Posted by Sash

Posted by 2BadSoSad

For the record, she has deactivated her account.



It's hard not to judge situations you hear, so please everyone stop acting like you don't ever judge.


Mic drop!



Another poster said something similar - Hofstra maybe? - about it being human nature to judge.

I compare judging (situations like this) to eating an entire sleeve of samoas in 15 minutes.

It's human nature to do both.

It seems justifiable, somehow, while you're doing both. "Well she was wrong." or "I had a tough day - I deserve these."

They both feel good.

BUT - you poison something either way. With the cookies you poison your body; with the judgment, you poison the world around you in small but cumulative ways by bringing others down for no good reason.

It's one thing to think it. It's another to say it, especially on a public forum, where there is pile upon pile of similar comments that add nothing of value to public discourse.

So I say, the next time you (general you) think about judging someone - especially without all the facts - I suggest you think: Is there something more useful I could be doing right now? Like, painting my toenails? Scrubbing the toilet? Screwing? Anything?

Because ladies, if we put the energy that we put into this into doing something like working for paid parental leave so moms and dads could take their babies to the zoo a little more often, we'd have it done in a week.



I get what you are saying but you should be allowed to voice your opinion/judgement without a posse jumping on you and acting like @ssholes.

I also don't get how it's ok to judge some things like my example i posted, but you can't make a comment like where the hell was the mom in this situation? I just don't think that's an insane statement or far off.

To each its own, the hypocrisy on this site is so frustrating and why I don't really post. I get tired of rolling my eyes. Lol




Plenty of people said where is he mom. Or she had a moment of weakness

But some questioned her entire existence of parenting. Judged her for how many kids she had and how far apart in age they were

To say that would never happen to me...to use that mantra is like breaking the mom code to me



We aren't going to agree but I think this whole thread is filled with hypocrisy and I don't think the original statements were that bad to warrant the crazy responses.

Posted 6/1/16 9:01 PM
 

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Re: Cincinnati Zoo incident

Posted by NervousNell

Posted by Sash

Posted by shadows

Posted by Sash

Posted by Lara&Aidansmommy

Posted by 2BadSoSad

For the record, she has deactivated her account.



Oh no I wonder whyChat Icon



She actually got kicked off... Well done ladies.


And we wonder why this site is so slow!



Why did she get kicked off?? Her opinion wasn't popular but she didn't do anything blatantly wrong that I could see? Unless I missed something she wrote...



I think she reference the C unt word for a hot second and got reported. But I didn't see it, this is all assumption.



That c u next Tuesday comment was someone else I think



Oh so now I'm at loss and think it's horrible.

Posted 6/1/16 9:02 PM
 

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Re: Cincinnati Zoo incident

Posted by gina409

Posted by BaseballWidow

Posted by gina409

And there is a huge difference to say well she lost site for a second,wasn't her best moment,lapse in judgement

Than saying she is a sh1t,lousy,dumb,stupid and all the other names she was called.

Also ridiculous to spew the I would never...and that can never happen to me

Also questioning if she can control her kids,how many she has and the ages in between.


Like I said before. The lack of empathy from mothers is what has made me be like whoa

As mothers don't we all know that anything can happen anytime



And we shame this woman. Now we compare to a woman who purposely put 11 kids in a 7 passenger car




I never said any of those things about the mother at the zoo. I do think she has blame though in that situation.
My point about the other story is for those to say to never judge. Never say never works in many situations, no?
I'd like to see them hold their thoughts on that one....what with how accepting they are all the time.



Of course it does. But not in a situation where a mother knowingly put too many people in a car

It's like apples and oranges to me



How do you know what she knew? Do you see why some of us were upset at how easily the zoo mom was defended? Name calling is not necessary but I see nothing wrong with calling her to accountability.

Posted 6/1/16 9:03 PM
 

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Re: Cincinnati Zoo incident

Posted by BaseballWidow

Posted by gina409

Posted by BaseballWidow

Posted by gina409

And there is a huge difference to say well she lost site for a second,wasn't her best moment,lapse in judgement

Than saying she is a sh1t,lousy,dumb,stupid and all the other names she was called.

Also ridiculous to spew the I would never...and that can never happen to me

Also questioning if she can control her kids,how many she has and the ages in between.


Like I said before. The lack of empathy from mothers is what has made me be like whoa

As mothers don't we all know that anything can happen anytime



And we shame this woman. Now we compare to a woman who purposely put 11 kids in a 7 passenger car




I never said any of those things about the mother at the zoo. I do think she has blame though in that situation.
My point about the other story is for those to say to never judge. Never say never works in many situations, no?
I'd like to see them hold their thoughts on that one....what with how accepting they are all the time.



Of course it does. But not in a situation where a mother knowingly put too many people in a car

It's like apples and oranges to me



How do you know what she knew? Do you see why some of us were upset at how easily the zoo mom was defended? Name calling is not necessary but I see nothing wrong with calling her to accountability.




So you're saying she didn't realize 11 people would fit in a 7 passenger car?

And nobody was upset about the accountability

People were upset at the name calling. Saying she was a lousy mom who couldn't take care of her kids and had a felon for a husband

Posted 6/1/16 9:08 PM
 

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Re: Cincinnati Zoo incident

Posted by Sash

Posted by JennP

Posted by Sash

Posted by 2BadSoSad

For the record, she has deactivated her account.



It's hard not to judge situations you hear, so please everyone stop acting like you don't ever judge.


Mic drop!



Another poster said something similar - Hofstra maybe? - about it being human nature to judge.

I compare judging (situations like this) to eating an entire sleeve of samoas in 15 minutes.

It's human nature to do both.

It seems justifiable, somehow, while you're doing both. "Well she was wrong." or "I had a tough day - I deserve these."

They both feel good.

BUT - you poison something either way. With the cookies you poison your body; with the judgment, you poison the world around you in small but cumulative ways by bringing others down for no good reason.

It's one thing to think it. It's another to say it, especially on a public forum, where there is pile upon pile of similar comments that add nothing of value to public discourse.

So I say, the next time you (general you) think about judging someone - especially without all the facts - I suggest you think: Is there something more useful I could be doing right now? Like, painting my toenails? Scrubbing the toilet? Screwing? Anything?

Because ladies, if we put the energy that we put into this into doing something like working for paid parental leave so moms and dads could take their babies to the zoo a little more often, we'd have it done in a week.



I get what you are saying but you should be allowed to voice your opinion/judgement without a posse jumping on you and acting like @ssholes.

I also don't get how it's ok to judge some things like my example i posted, but you can't make a comment like where the hell was the mom in this situation? I just don't think that's an insane statement or far off.

To each its own, the hypocrisy on this site is so frustrating and why I don't really post. I get tired of rolling my eyes. Lol



I guess we'll have to agree to disagree about what constitutes acting like an @sshole.

What example do you mean? I looked and couldn't find it. I am just curious. I personally see clear differences between the other examples posted and this original story, where there are lots of gray areas, IMO.

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Posted 6/1/16 9:14 PM
 

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Re: Cincinnati Zoo incident

Posted by gina409





And nobody was upset about the accountability






Yes, they were. Read the first page.

Posted 6/1/16 9:23 PM
 

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Re: Cincinnati Zoo incident

This thread is insanity.

Look. I'm all for empathy and understanding but for crying out loud, this woman's child ended up in the hands of a 400lb gorilla!!!!! How can you possibly expect that the only response to that situation would (or should) be empathy and understanding???? It's an "unfortunate accident" because the boy lived.............. Would you all be this "understanding" and empathetic if because of her actions that day (whatever they may be) he died?!?!

I don't think this woman should be crucified because nobody is perfect HOWEVER, to expect nobody to call into question her parenting that day is absurd. How can you not wonder W-T-F happened that day??!! How can you not feel some level of outrage or upset that a 4 yr old was able to find his way into a gorilla habitat?!!!

Just because some of us are questioning her actions that day does not make us a bunch of sanctimonious b1tches. It doesn't mean we think we are the salt of the earth or the most perfect angel parents with wonderful, do no wrong children. It means we are human, humans have visceral responses to situations. We feel everything from anger to upset to empathy and everything in between. Those of you who think you're somehow better humans and women because you bleed empathy need to climb off your high horse. There is NO right or wrong emotion or opinion here, everyone is entitled to feel and react in their own way.

This thread just completely went off the rails in grand LIF style. It's astonishing to me that nobody is allowed to have a difference of opinion without it turning into a giant 10 page fight. Just agree to disagree and move on.
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Posted 6/1/16 9:31 PM
 

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Re: Cincinnati Zoo incident

Posted by gina409

I'm seriously flabbergasted by some of the things I have read

I'm so glad so that so many can take their kids out and they never have gotten away. But you know what that's not always the case. And it happened everyday. In many places. Parks. Supermarkets. Malls. Zoos.

And according to some these people are shit parents

That's a harsh harsh statement to make. Calling all her years of parenting out bc she lost site of one while buckling. In another. Yep. Bc of this her kids should be taken away,she's a lousy parent,can't control her kids. And everything else under the sun

And as for the kid told her he was going to climb in,well my kids tell me they are going to Disney every day. Do I believe them.

She turned around he was gone. Everyone is acting like she kicked back and said ehhhh they will find him

The lack of empathy is scary. Scary bc it is coming from other mothers. Who while this may not ever happen to them,you would think they would know better than anyone how hard a job this is. How overwhelming. How things can change in a second.

But no. We shame her. We are our own worst enemy



I totally agree with youChat Icon Chat Icon Chat Icon
God forbid anything happens to anyone's,child on here that is an accident, I hope you do not get crucified.

Posted 6/1/16 9:33 PM
 

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Re: Cincinnati Zoo incident

I didn't read any of the other comments on this... let me just say that. lol.

I don't like to judge so I would need more information on this whole situation.

I have no idea how many other kids this mom might have had with her. I have 3 and I know how quickly some kids move. Mine never stop moving and I can't have my back to them for a second!

But also I have to wonder about the zoo and what kinds of precautions they take for this NOT to happen. I mean how big or small of a space are we talking? why is there any space for a toddler to be able to get through?

I would need more answers before judging anything.

Posted 6/1/16 9:33 PM
 

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Re: Cincinnati Zoo incident

Posted by Hofstra26

This thread is insanity.

Look. I'm all for empathy and understanding but for crying out loud, this woman's child ended up in the hands of a 400lb gorilla!!!!! How can you possibly expect that the only response to that situation would (or should) be empathy and understanding???? It's an "unfortunate accident" because the boy lived.............. Would you all be this "understanding" and empathetic if because of her actions that day (whatever they may be) he died?!?!

I don't think this woman should be crucified because nobody is perfect HOWEVER, to expect nobody to call into question her parenting that day is absurd. How can you not wonder W-T-F happened that day??!! How can you not feel some level of outrage or upset that a 4 yr old was able to find his way into a gorilla habitat?!!!

Just because some of us are questioning her actions that day does not make us a bunch of sanctimonious b1tches. It doesn't mean we think we are the salt of the earth or the most perfect angel parents with wonderful, do no wrong children. It means we are human, humans have visceral responses to situations. We feel everything from anger to upset to empathy and everything in between. Those of you who think you're somehow better humans and women because you bleed empathy need to climb off your high horse. There is NO right or wrong emotion or opinion here, everyone is entitled to feel and react in their own way.

This thread just completely went off the rails in grand LIF style. It's astonishing to me that nobody is allowed to have a difference of opinion without it turning into a giant 10 page fight. Just agree to disagree and move on.
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I think the thread actually went of the rails when people were talking about spacing out your children "responsibly" and the use of birth control. I don't think people would have been so upset if those comments hadn't been made.

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