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eroxgirl
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Re: Cincinnati Zoo incident
I'm disgusted by the judgment and the sanctimony on this thread. Some of you MOTHERS should be ashamed of yourself. Don't have kids too close together? Don't have more than you can handle?? Who the hell are you to say?? How do you know what her religious beliefs are? Maybe she doesn't believe in birth control? Maybe she's pro-life? Maybe she wanted to be pregnant for 5 straight years??? None of that makes her a bad parent, but the judgment and the vitriol DOES actually make some of you look like real crappy people.
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Re: Cincinnati Zoo incident
Posted by Eireann
Judge not lest ye be judged...
seriously!!! 
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Re: Cincinnati Zoo incident
Posted by eroxgirl
I'm disgusted by the judgment and the sanctimony on this thread. Some of you MOTHERS should be ashamed of yourself. Don't have kids too close together? Don't have more than you can handle?? Who the hell are you to say?? How do you know what her religious beliefs are? Maybe she doesn't believe in birth control? Maybe she's pro-life? Maybe she wanted to be pregnant for 5 straight years??? None of that makes her a bad parent, but the judgment and the vitriol DOES actually make some of you look like real crappy people.
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CrankyPants
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Re: Cincinnati Zoo incident
Posted by Eireann
Judge not lest ye be judged...
This! And no matter how much you think stuff like this this would never happen to you, remember we are all human.
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soontobemommyof2
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Re: Cincinnati Zoo incident
Posted by JennP
Posted by GoldenRod
I just want to make sure I get everything down properly....
If I take my eyes off of DC1 for 1 second to safely secure DC2, I'm a bad parent
If I use a leash to keep DC safe, I'm a bad parent
If I keep DC strapped into a stroller to keep them safe, I'm not letting them learn, so I'm a bad parent
If I take them to a zoo, they might not be safe, so I'm a bad parent
If I never take them out of the house, I'm not letting them learn, so I'm a bad parent.
If I turn DC forward facing before 4 years old, since that has been proven to be the safest thing, I'm a bad parent
If I let DC explore, they might get hurt, so I'm a bad parent.
If I helicopter parent every second of their lives to keep them safe, I'm a bad parent.
If I let DC CIO, I'm a bad parent.
If I comfort DC as soon as they cry, I'm a bad parent.
If I let DC alone in the house at 13, I'm a bad parent.
If I never let DC alone until after they are 18, I'm a bad parent.
Since car accidents are one of the major causes of injuries or death, putting DC in a car means I'm a bad parent.
If DC plays sports, they might get hurt, so I'm a bad parent
If DC doesn't play sports, they don't learn valuable team dynamics and don't get physical activity, so I'm a bad parent.
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... and most of these conflicting things have been said on this forum, which is supposed to be mainly for women to help each other...
Yup. And this is why -
1. I try to keep it light on these boards and stick to travel and other fun topics. It doesn't always work - I've been sucked into a couple of doozies - but overall when I see posts like these I am turned off from replying. Part of me wants to scream at the overly judgmental people, but they won't hear me anyway.
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2. I very, very rarely ask for parenting advice. And that's NOT because I know it all. I sure as shit don't. But I know my kid and what my gut says and I know that other people will have conflicting opinions anyway, so I just do what I think is right and learn as I go.
Plus I have noticed that 99% of the people (IRL) who give me their unsolicited opinion on how to parent my son are either childless or have much older children.
I wish we would all just leave each other alone.
99.8% of us are just doing the best we can and the other .2% won't listen anyway.
My thoughts exactly!
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momtimes2
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Re: Cincinnati Zoo incident
Posted by gina409
I'm seriously flabbergasted by some of the things I have read
I'm so glad so that so many can take their kids out and they never have gotten away. But you know what that's not always the case. And it happened everyday. In many places. Parks. Supermarkets. Malls. Zoos.
And according to some these people are shit parents
That's a harsh harsh statement to make. Calling all her years of parenting out bc she lost site of one while buckling. In another. Yep. Bc of this her kids should be taken away,she's a lousy parent,can't control her kids. And everything else under the sun
And as for the kid told her he was going to climb in,well my kids tell me they are going to Disney every day. Do I believe them.
She turned around he was gone. Everyone is acting like she kicked back and said ehhhh they will find him
The lack of empathy is scary. Scary bc it is coming from other mothers. Who while this may not ever happen to them,you would think they would know better than anyone how hard a job this is. How overwhelming. How things can change in a second.
But no. We shame her. We are our own worst enemy
well said, it's actually disgusting the amount of judgment going on - ahhh, such is LIF
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LSP2005
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Re: Cincinnati Zoo incident
I don't think that the mother would have been judged as harshly had she publicly made a statement of how sorry she was about everything. That is not what she did. In fact, she was super caviler about the entire thing. As a parent, I expect you to know your own kids. I can't get behind that she would not know he was spirited or a runner. Since according to multiple witnesses she said something to the effect that he wanted to swim with the gorilla. The second that happened,he needed to be strapped into the stroller. Instead, she focused on her other kids. To me, accidents happen, yes, but she did nothing to prevent or help the situation. That is why I place the blame on her. Is it unfortunate, yes, it is. All accidents are unfortunate, but it does not mean that you should not be held accountable for your actions. If you were in a car accident because you were distracted, you are still accountable for the accident. It is not like you get a pass for killing someone because your kid in the backseat just threw up and your eyes were momentarily diverted from driving. Edit, my kids are close in age but elementary aged now. My son was a runner at age three. You know what, I just did not put myself in the position that this woman did. I would have said use a tether, have both parents or a mothers helper, keep all the kids in the stroller and a baby carrier. She had other options and did not use any of them. I don't really care what kind of family planning methods people use, that is none of my business.
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blessedmama
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Re: Cincinnati Zoo incident
Posted by Katareen
Posted by Eireann
I cannot believe we need to space our kids apart in a more "responsible" manner now. Priceless. What about a pp with twins?!
It has nothing to do with twins... It has to do with having more children then you're physically able to handle safely. And this woman had four singleton children under the age of 5/6 and clearly wasn't able to handle them safely.
Exactly and that is the point many people have been trying to say.
I don't care how many kids you have but if both parents were there that day, then both of them need to be responsible for them and if they had 1 or all 4, someone should have an eye on them at all times.
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momtimes2
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Re: Cincinnati Zoo incident
Posted by lululu
Posted by blessedmama
Posted by Momof3boys
I have three kids VERY close in age! Just wondering if those who judge have more than 1 or 2 and just the age gap is?
For those who have multiples and singletons (all under Three or Four)....just curious as to your thoughts?
Not sure how many kids this mom had with her, but it's very hard to keep your eyes on all. Unless maybe you have eyes on the back of your head!
I am not the perfect mom (who is??), but I watch my three young kids very very closely when in public and when you have a crying baby and two more under three years old, it's quite difficult. I don't enjoy taking all of mine places alone. It's very stressful for me. If they are at a park, who do you run after and who do you turn your back on for that split second? It sucks. I usually leave one of mine at home with my husband for their safely and my sanity.
Hence the reason why some of us spaced our kids as we knew it wouldn't be a walk in the park and knew how much we would be able to handle things. I am sure all 4 of this woman's kids are very young. I don't know about her but the husband is a convicted felon.
OMG you are seriously insane. What if she was 40 when she had her first and had to move fast if she wanted another? What if her birth control failed and she didn't want to have an abortion? You are so seriously judgmental it never ceases to amaze me!
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blessedmama
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Re: Cincinnati Zoo incident
Posted by Kitten1929
Posted by blessedmama
Seriously? Not sure what was so bad about what I said. Not everyone leaves child bearing up to god to decide. Many parents plan their families with the use of birth control and spacing that helps them out in whatever way they choose.
Please explain why that is so horrible as I think everyone took my comment way out of context.
You like to condescend to people.
You like to act superior, holier than thou, and make them feel as if their choices, actions, decisions or feelings are invalid because YOU don't like them.
You act like you know everything. You act like you have all the answers, and that everyone else is a complete moron for not thinking exactly the same as you. It's as if you never learned how to be empathetic, or kind, or caring.
It's not necessarily what you say, but how you say it. However your comments on this thread show you obviously don't understand that.
Sorry you feel that way. Maybe the things I say are just from experience and age. Some of us have common sense and many others don't. I tell it like it is, sorry. You can't feel bad for everyone in this world. I am no where near perfect and never claim to be but if I know something that someone else doesn't, I don't see the harm in teaching them, just like I welcome all teachings from others who are experienced and know more than I do.
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blessedmama
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Re: Cincinnati Zoo incident
Posted by eroxgirl
I'm disgusted by the judgment and the sanctimony on this thread. Some of you MOTHERS should be ashamed of yourself. Don't have kids too close together? Don't have more than you can handle?? Who the hell are you to say?? How do you know what her religious beliefs are? Maybe she doesn't believe in birth control? Maybe she's pro-life? Maybe she wanted to be pregnant for 5 straight years??? None of that makes her a bad parent, but the judgment and the vitriol DOES actually make some of you look like real crappy people.
Nope but having 2 parents (and who knows who else with them) and neither paying attention to one child does make you a bad parent.
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eroxgirl
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Re: Cincinnati Zoo incident
Posted by blessedmama
Posted by eroxgirl
I'm disgusted by the judgment and the sanctimony on this thread. Some of you MOTHERS should be ashamed of yourself. Don't have kids too close together? Don't have more than you can handle?? Who the hell are you to say?? How do you know what her religious beliefs are? Maybe she doesn't believe in birth control? Maybe she's pro-life? Maybe she wanted to be pregnant for 5 straight years??? None of that makes her a bad parent, but the judgment and the vitriol DOES actually make some of you look like real crappy people.
Nope but having 2 parents (and who knows who else with them) and neither paying attention to one child does make you a bad parent.
Except mom WAS paying attention to one of her children as she was buckling that child into it's stroller, and since dad had to be restrained from climbing into the gorilla enclosure as well, he was clearly also paying attention. You can pretend you're perfect all you want, your words on here paint an ugly picture of who you actually are.
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CrankyPants
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Re: Cincinnati Zoo incident
Posted by blessedmama
Posted by eroxgirl
I'm disgusted by the judgment and the sanctimony on this thread. Some of you MOTHERS should be ashamed of yourself. Don't have kids too close together? Don't have more than you can handle?? Who the hell are you to say?? How do you know what her religious beliefs are? Maybe she doesn't believe in birth control? Maybe she's pro-life? Maybe she wanted to be pregnant for 5 straight years??? None of that makes her a bad parent, but the judgment and the vitriol DOES actually make some of you look like real crappy people.
Nope but having 2 parents (and who knows who else with them) and neither paying attention to one child does make you a bad parent.
OMG, you are hilarious! Several times I've started to write a response to the know-it-all nonsense but I really just have to laugh.
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blessedmama
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Re: Cincinnati Zoo incident
Posted by eroxgirl
Posted by blessedmama
Posted by eroxgirl
I'm disgusted by the judgment and the sanctimony on this thread. Some of you MOTHERS should be ashamed of yourself. Don't have kids too close together? Don't have more than you can handle?? Who the hell are you to say?? How do you know what her religious beliefs are? Maybe she doesn't believe in birth control? Maybe she's pro-life? Maybe she wanted to be pregnant for 5 straight years??? None of that makes her a bad parent, but the judgment and the vitriol DOES actually make some of you look like real crappy people.
Nope but having 2 parents (and who knows who else with them) and neither paying attention to one child does make you a bad parent.
Except mom WAS paying attention to one of her children as she was buckling that child into it's stroller, and since dad had to be restrained from climbing into the gorilla enclosure as well, he was clearly also paying attention. You can pretend you're perfect all you want, your words on here paint an ugly picture of who you actually are.
No, that does not mean he was paying attention, it just means that after the kid fell, he ran over and was willing to go and get him.
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ElizaRags35
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Re: Cincinnati Zoo incident
Posted by NervousNell
Posted by gina409
Just bc I'm a nosy biotch lol
What other names has she posted under
LOL
I am nosy too. I want to know!
Lol me too! Usually I'm good at figuring it out but I'm stumped.
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SecretlyTTC14
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Re: Cincinnati Zoo incident
I think a lot of the nastiness is because people are either excusing the mother or the zoo when both of them clearly failed.
No matter what, this mother is responsible for her child. It doesn't matter if she was temporarily preoccupied with her other child/children. She isn't relieved of her duty with her other kids. It is her job to keep ALL her kids safe at ALL times. That being said, she is probably beating herself up enough. I can't imagine what she is going through.
The zoo has a responsibility to keep the animals and the patrons safe. No one should have been able to get through the enclosure, it's just common sense. That is a serious flaw in the design of that enclosure.
It's unfortunate but the zoo had to make a decision. If you read the opinions of any professional that has worked with gorillas, they say he wasn't protecting the child like animal activists want to believe, he was posing him for his enjoyment like a toy. In 2 seconds he could have picked up that kid and bashed him into the wall for fun. They had no choice and it's unfortunate an animal had to lose his life when he was just acting instinctively.
Please don't support zoos. Animals should not be kept in confinement for our entertainment. Yes, some of the animals are rescued and cant be release back into the wild, but that's a small portion of the animals. Most of the animals that make up these exhibits are either stolen from the wild and purchased by zoos or bred for the sole purpose of being on display for their entire lives. They are denied all of their basic instincts so we can occasionally go and take a look at them. It's so wrong.
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eroxgirl
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Re: Cincinnati Zoo incident
Posted by blessedmama
Posted by eroxgirl
Posted by blessedmama
Posted by eroxgirl
I'm disgusted by the judgment and the sanctimony on this thread. Some of you MOTHERS should be ashamed of yourself. Don't have kids too close together? Don't have more than you can handle?? Who the hell are you to say?? How do you know what her religious beliefs are? Maybe she doesn't believe in birth control? Maybe she's pro-life? Maybe she wanted to be pregnant for 5 straight years??? None of that makes her a bad parent, but the judgment and the vitriol DOES actually make some of you look like real crappy people.
Nope but having 2 parents (and who knows who else with them) and neither paying attention to one child does make you a bad parent.
Except mom WAS paying attention to one of her children as she was buckling that child into it's stroller, and since dad had to be restrained from climbing into the gorilla enclosure as well, he was clearly also paying attention. You can pretend you're perfect all you want, your words on here paint an ugly picture of who you actually are.
No, that does not mean he was paying attention, it just means that after the kid fell, he ran over and was willing to go and get him.
Like I said, you are painting a truly horrific picture of who you are as a person. If you really do have children, I feel badly that they should grow up in the kind of environment your kind of narrow-minded judgment provides.
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Re: Cincinnati Zoo incident
Posted by blessedmama
Posted by phoenix913
Posted by blessedmama
Posted by Momof3boys
I have three kids VERY close in age! Just wondering if those who judge have more than 1 or 2 and just the age gap is?
For those who have multiples and singletons (all under Three or Four)....just curious as to your thoughts?
Not sure how many kids this mom had with her, but it's very hard to keep your eyes on all. Unless maybe you have eyes on the back of your head!
I am not the perfect mom (who is??), but I watch my three young kids very very closely when in public and when you have a crying baby and two more under three years old, it's quite difficult. I don't enjoy taking all of mine places alone. It's very stressful for me. If they are at a park, who do you run after and who do you turn your back on for that split second? It sucks. I usually leave one of mine at home with my husband for their safely and my sanity.
Hence the reason why some of us spaced our kids as we knew it wouldn't be a walk in the park and knew how much we would be able to handle things. I am sure all 4 of this woman's kids are very young. I don't know about her but the husband is a convicted felon.
There's that lack of empathy again. Wouldn't the world be a much nicer place if we just assumed she was a great mom who made a mistake until we learn otherwise?
No, I am just tired of parents not taking responsibility for their children.
I would love to know what she said on Facebook that she took down. I am still trying to see if she has prior child neglect cases on her too.
What does that have to do with anything???? Does that make you a better person that you can search on the internet and find a time in this woman's past where she may have done something wrong? Does it mean she did something wrong this time?? None of us were there, none of us know what she did or didn't do and frankly the discussions about it are making me sick.
how quick you are to judge and try to tear someone down
i thought this board was passed all that sanctimommy stuff, i really did.. but this has been an eye opener.
How dare anyone even suggest that spacing out kids is the more responsible way to be a parent.. that's the most ludicrous thing i've heard in a long time!
F you, F all of you who stand there and judge.
Karma is most certainly a raging biitch and she'll reward you all for the complete lack of empathy you spit towards other mothers
im ashamed to be reading some of this hate
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blessedmama
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Re: Cincinnati Zoo incident
Posted by eroxgirl
Posted by blessedmama
Posted by eroxgirl
Posted by blessedmama
Posted by eroxgirl
I'm disgusted by the judgment and the sanctimony on this thread. Some of you MOTHERS should be ashamed of yourself. Don't have kids too close together? Don't have more than you can handle?? Who the hell are you to say?? How do you know what her religious beliefs are? Maybe she doesn't believe in birth control? Maybe she's pro-life? Maybe she wanted to be pregnant for 5 straight years??? None of that makes her a bad parent, but the judgment and the vitriol DOES actually make some of you look like real crappy people.
Nope but having 2 parents (and who knows who else with them) and neither paying attention to one child does make you a bad parent.
Except mom WAS paying attention to one of her children as she was buckling that child into it's stroller, and since dad had to be restrained from climbing into the gorilla enclosure as well, he was clearly also paying attention. You can pretend you're perfect all you want, your words on here paint an ugly picture of who you actually are.
No, that does not mean he was paying attention, it just means that after the kid fell, he ran over and was willing to go and get him.
Like I said, you are painting a truly horrific picture of who you are as a person. If you really do have children, I feel badly that they should grow up in the kind of environment your kind of narrow-minded judgment provides.
I am actually very open minded and know all types of people so that is why I post what I do. I am aware of what is out there and I know many many good parents as well as ok parents and bad parents too. People who do not spend time with others who are different from themselves are narrow-minded. Open mindedness comes from age and experience.
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CrankyPants
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Re: Cincinnati Zoo incident
The mother/parents failed to prevent their kid from toppling into a dangerous enclosure. I don't think anyone is refuting that. Am I wrong? Anyone want to let the mom off the hook 100%?
What is being said is that no one is perfect, we as parents will fail and we can ony hope that when we do our children will survive, recover, be whole again. And those of you who think you are infallible, well you just haven't been a parent long enough to learn this (whether your kid is 2 or 18, we all find this out eventually).
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Re: Cincinnati Zoo incident
Posted by blessedmama
Posted by eroxgirl
Posted by blessedmama
Posted by eroxgirl
Posted by blessedmama
Posted by eroxgirl
I'm disgusted by the judgment and the sanctimony on this thread. Some of you MOTHERS should be ashamed of yourself. Don't have kids too close together? Don't have more than you can handle?? Who the hell are you to say?? How do you know what her religious beliefs are? Maybe she doesn't believe in birth control? Maybe she's pro-life? Maybe she wanted to be pregnant for 5 straight years??? None of that makes her a bad parent, but the judgment and the vitriol DOES actually make some of you look like real crappy people.
Nope but having 2 parents (and who knows who else with them) and neither paying attention to one child does make you a bad parent.
Except mom WAS paying attention to one of her children as she was buckling that child into it's stroller, and since dad had to be restrained from climbing into the gorilla enclosure as well, he was clearly also paying attention. You can pretend you're perfect all you want, your words on here paint an ugly picture of who you actually are.
No, that does not mean he was paying attention, it just means that after the kid fell, he ran over and was willing to go and get him.
Like I said, you are painting a truly horrific picture of who you are as a person. If you really do have children, I feel badly that they should grow up in the kind of environment your kind of narrow-minded judgment provides.
I am actually very open minded and know all types of people so that is why I post what I do. I am aware of what is out there and I know many many good parents as well as ok parents and bad parents too. People who do not spend time with others who are different from themselves are narrow-minded. Open mindedness comes from age and experience.
The definition of open minded:
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having or showing a mind receptive to new ideas or arguments.
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unprejudiced; unbigoted; impartial.
You aren't open minded from the act of aging or experience. Open mindedness comes from empathy, the ability to see the world from another point of view and to be non judgemental. You have displayed none of those qualities.
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blessedmama
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Re: Cincinnati Zoo incident
Posted by mommyagain3
Posted by blessedmama
Posted by eroxgirl
Posted by blessedmama
Posted by eroxgirl
Posted by blessedmama
Posted by eroxgirl
I'm disgusted by the judgment and the sanctimony on this thread. Some of you MOTHERS should be ashamed of yourself. Don't have kids too close together? Don't have more than you can handle?? Who the hell are you to say?? How do you know what her religious beliefs are? Maybe she doesn't believe in birth control? Maybe she's pro-life? Maybe she wanted to be pregnant for 5 straight years??? None of that makes her a bad parent, but the judgment and the vitriol DOES actually make some of you look like real crappy people.
Nope but having 2 parents (and who knows who else with them) and neither paying attention to one child does make you a bad parent.
Except mom WAS paying attention to one of her children as she was buckling that child into it's stroller, and since dad had to be restrained from climbing into the gorilla enclosure as well, he was clearly also paying attention. You can pretend you're perfect all you want, your words on here paint an ugly picture of who you actually are.
No, that does not mean he was paying attention, it just means that after the kid fell, he ran over and was willing to go and get him.
Like I said, you are painting a truly horrific picture of who you are as a person. If you really do have children, I feel badly that they should grow up in the kind of environment your kind of narrow-minded judgment provides.
I am actually very open minded and know all types of people so that is why I post what I do. I am aware of what is out there and I know many many good parents as well as ok parents and bad parents too. People who do not spend time with others who are different from themselves are narrow-minded. Open mindedness comes from age and experience.
The definition of open minded:
1.
having or showing a mind receptive to new ideas or arguments.
2.
unprejudiced; unbigoted; impartial.
You aren't open minded from the act of aging or experience. Open mindedness comes from empathy, the ability to see the world from another point of view and to be non judgemental. You have displayed none of those qualities.
We all are judgemental no matter how much someone says they are not.
I have so many different types of friends and family that I do see different points of views on an everyday basis. I do think age and experience helps in being open minded as you have learned more and yes, some people are close minded their entire lives. Some have seen so much in their lives that they comment about things because they have seen things happen and are aware that not everyone does the right thing.
The family does not want to come out and talk about this and it seems the mother took down her fb post. Maybe because they are embarrassed and realize they did the wrong thing. Maybe this will be the best thing for them (in a horrible way of course) to be more attentive to their kids.
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Re: Cincinnati Zoo incident
Posted by blessedmama
Posted by mommyagain3
Posted by blessedmama
Posted by eroxgirl
Posted by blessedmama
Posted by eroxgirl
Posted by blessedmama
Posted by eroxgirl
I'm disgusted by the judgment and the sanctimony on this thread. Some of you MOTHERS should be ashamed of yourself. Don't have kids too close together? Don't have more than you can handle?? Who the hell are you to say?? How do you know what her religious beliefs are? Maybe she doesn't believe in birth control? Maybe she's pro-life? Maybe she wanted to be pregnant for 5 straight years??? None of that makes her a bad parent, but the judgment and the vitriol DOES actually make some of you look like real crappy people.
Nope but having 2 parents (and who knows who else with them) and neither paying attention to one child does make you a bad parent.
Except mom WAS paying attention to one of her children as she was buckling that child into it's stroller, and since dad had to be restrained from climbing into the gorilla enclosure as well, he was clearly also paying attention. You can pretend you're perfect all you want, your words on here paint an ugly picture of who you actually are.
No, that does not mean he was paying attention, it just means that after the kid fell, he ran over and was willing to go and get him.
Like I said, you are painting a truly horrific picture of who you are as a person. If you really do have children, I feel badly that they should grow up in the kind of environment your kind of narrow-minded judgment provides.
I am actually very open minded and know all types of people so that is why I post what I do. I am aware of what is out there and I know many many good parents as well as ok parents and bad parents too. People who do not spend time with others who are different from themselves are narrow-minded. Open mindedness comes from age and experience.
The definition of open minded:
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having or showing a mind receptive to new ideas or arguments.
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unprejudiced; unbigoted; impartial.
You aren't open minded from the act of aging or experience. Open mindedness comes from empathy, the ability to see the world from another point of view and to be non judgemental. You have displayed none of those qualities.
We all are judgemental no matter how much someone says they are not.
I have so many different types of friends and family that I do see different points of views on an everyday basis. I do think age and experience helps in being open minded as you have learned more and yes, some people are close minded their entire lives. Some have seen so much in their lives that they comment about things because they have seen things happen and are aware that not everyone does the right thing.
The family does not want to come out and talk about this and it seems the mother took down her fb post. Maybe because they are embarrassed and realize they did the wrong thing. Maybe this will be the best thing for them (in a horrible way of course) to be more attentive to their kids.
Actually I just saw a statement from the mother on HLN regarding the incident. She feels terrible for the gorilla, and has asked that those who have offered to donate money to the family, donate that money to the zoo in memory of Harambe instead.
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| Posted 6/1/16 1:09 PM |
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BargainMama
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Re: Cincinnati Zoo incident
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Posted by NervousNell
Posted by gina409
Just bc I'm a nosy biotch lol
What other names has she posted under
LOL
I am nosy too. I want to know!
Lol me too! Usually I'm good at figuring it out but I'm stumped.
Are you having a delightful afternoon today? 
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| Posted 6/1/16 1:12 PM |
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blessedmama
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Re: Cincinnati Zoo incident
Posted by BargainMama
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Posted by mommyagain3
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Posted by eroxgirl
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Posted by eroxgirl
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Posted by eroxgirl
I'm disgusted by the judgment and the sanctimony on this thread. Some of you MOTHERS should be ashamed of yourself. Don't have kids too close together? Don't have more than you can handle?? Who the hell are you to say?? How do you know what her religious beliefs are? Maybe she doesn't believe in birth control? Maybe she's pro-life? Maybe she wanted to be pregnant for 5 straight years??? None of that makes her a bad parent, but the judgment and the vitriol DOES actually make some of you look like real crappy people.
Nope but having 2 parents (and who knows who else with them) and neither paying attention to one child does make you a bad parent.
Except mom WAS paying attention to one of her children as she was buckling that child into it's stroller, and since dad had to be restrained from climbing into the gorilla enclosure as well, he was clearly also paying attention. You can pretend you're perfect all you want, your words on here paint an ugly picture of who you actually are.
No, that does not mean he was paying attention, it just means that after the kid fell, he ran over and was willing to go and get him.
Like I said, you are painting a truly horrific picture of who you are as a person. If you really do have children, I feel badly that they should grow up in the kind of environment your kind of narrow-minded judgment provides.
I am actually very open minded and know all types of people so that is why I post what I do. I am aware of what is out there and I know many many good parents as well as ok parents and bad parents too. People who do not spend time with others who are different from themselves are narrow-minded. Open mindedness comes from age and experience.
The definition of open minded:
1.
having or showing a mind receptive to new ideas or arguments.
2.
unprejudiced; unbigoted; impartial.
You aren't open minded from the act of aging or experience. Open mindedness comes from empathy, the ability to see the world from another point of view and to be non judgemental. You have displayed none of those qualities.
We all are judgemental no matter how much someone says they are not.
I have so many different types of friends and family that I do see different points of views on an everyday basis. I do think age and experience helps in being open minded as you have learned more and yes, some people are close minded their entire lives. Some have seen so much in their lives that they comment about things because they have seen things happen and are aware that not everyone does the right thing.
The family does not want to come out and talk about this and it seems the mother took down her fb post. Maybe because they are embarrassed and realize they did the wrong thing. Maybe this will be the best thing for them (in a horrible way of course) to be more attentive to their kids.
Actually I just saw a statement from the mother on HLN regarding the incident. She feels terrible for the gorilla, and has asked that those who have offered to donate money to the family, donate that money to the zoo in memory of Harambe instead.
Thanks. Last I heard was that the family did not want to talk to the media.
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