Covid hospitalization # question

I was watching the news and they said hospitalization of children with Covid is up.

Is there a way to find out if that’s children who went to the hospital because of Covid? Or was it children, like my sons friend, who went in for a concussion and got Covid tested (no clue why) and tested positive but was there for something else?

As school starts and masks are being discussed I’m just trying to understand what the numbers really are and if they are as scary as they sound.

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Good luck with that. People ask everyday if they can find out questions like this or whom is admitted, vaccinated or non-vaccinated and you never get an answer, at least from Suffolk.

They would rather throw numbers at you. Like in FL, I was just reading in Palm Beach it is so bad 11 out of the 12 beds in the ICU is Covid patients. Did they come in with something else and then tested positive for Covid? Are they being moved to other areas so people who need the ICU for other things can use it?

The numbers in Suffolk are up to over 500. Again, are all these people just going out like normal because they don't feel sick or don't care? Everyone is still out and about everywhere I have gone. Restaurants packed every single night of the week.

On 8/17/21, 528 #COVID19 cases were reported (4.2%); 28 were hospitalized (total 151), 4 died, and 23 were discharged; 65.2% of Suffolk's population of 1,481,093 have received at least one dose of COVID vaccine, 58.6% have completed their vaccine series.

Covid hospitalization # question

From what I’ve heard - they aren’t as scary as they sound. The numbers are definitely up but I believe in some places they have been providing total hospitalized or a total number, not just now.

Covid hospitalization # question

It’s something that I wish was easily available. Was hoping there was somewhere it was tracked.

I can’t imagine going to school maskless if the numbers are actually true. But hearing stories about people I know in real life going in for something and being required to Covid test for a concussion….is that part of the numbers? Are we back to testing healthy people to drive up numbers or are children really getting sick and hospital because of Covid? As a parent I want to know. I’m all about my kids being maskless, but this one has me curious.

ETA. How are you supposed to make informed decisions for your child when you can’t get the information you need???

Message edited 8/19/2021 8:35:06 AM.

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Posted by NervousNell

Posted by Sash

Posted by jellybean78

Posted by Raging2020

It’s something that I wish was easily available. Was hoping there was somewhere it was tracked.

I can’t imagine going to school maskless if the numbers are actually true. But hearing stories about people I know in real life going in for something and being required to Covid test for a concussion….is that part of the numbers? Are we back to testing healthy people to drive up numbers or are children really getting sick and hospital because of Covid? As a parent I want to know. I’m all about my kids being maskless, but this one has me curious.

ETA. How are you supposed to make informed decisions for your child when you can’t get the information you need???

I don't know why the data is so hard to find. I would think if the numbers of kids hospitalized is really increasing that the data would be all over the news supporting the claim. I agree it's hard to make informed decisions right now considering the lack of transparency on so many things COVID related.

Like I want to know the real percentage of vaccinated people getting COVID. It seems to me based on my social circle and what I've heard that a lot of vaccinated people are getting COVID now....more so than unvaccinated.

I would like to know the number of unvaccinated who had Covid this year. How many are truly unprotected? How many who are unvaccinated and got Covid twice this year?

I want to know what’s driving this “it’s all the unvaccinated fault” hypothesis. I haven’t had Covid a second time this year. My son has not had it at all.

My husband, DD and I all never had it. And we live pretty much normally even going to -GASP-restaurants multiple times a week. Travelling, the gym, etc
Or maybe we did have it and didn't know? DH is the only one who has been tested for antibodies- his Dr does it with routine bloodwork. He is negative.
Who knows- maybe some people have natural immunity. Maybe some people are less susceptible to it due to their immune response.
It hasn't been around long enough to know any of this.

Message edited 8/19/2021 9:50:55 AM.

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Posted by NervousNell

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Posted by jellybean78

Posted by Raging2020

It’s something that I wish was easily available. Was hoping there was somewhere it was tracked.

I can’t imagine going to school maskless if the numbers are actually true. But hearing stories about people I know in real life going in for something and being required to Covid test for a concussion….is that part of the numbers? Are we back to testing healthy people to drive up numbers or are children really getting sick and hospital because of Covid? As a parent I want to know. I’m all about my kids being maskless, but this one has me curious.

ETA. How are you supposed to make informed decisions for your child when you can’t get the information you need???

I don't know why the data is so hard to find. I would think if the numbers of kids hospitalized is really increasing that the data would be all over the news supporting the claim. I agree it's hard to make informed decisions right now considering the lack of transparency on so many things COVID related.

Like I want to know the real percentage of vaccinated people getting COVID. It seems to me based on my social circle and what I've heard that a lot of vaccinated people are getting COVID now....more so than unvaccinated.

I would like to know the number of unvaccinated who had Covid this year. How many are truly unprotected? How many who are unvaccinated and got Covid twice this year?

I want to know what’s driving this “it’s all the unvaccinated fault” hypothesis. I haven’t had Covid a second time this year. My son has not had it at all.

My husband, DD and I all never had it. And we live pretty much normally even going to -GASP-restaurants multiple times a week. Travelling, the gym, etc
Or maybe we did have it and didn't know? DH is the only one who has been tested for antibodies- his Dr does it with routine bloodwork. He is negative.
Who knows- maybe some people have natural immunity. Maybe some people are less susceptible to it due to their immune response.
It hasn't been around long enough to know any of this.

Exactly! My sister was telling me how 50% in NJ were unvaccinated and I asked of the 50% how many had Covid this year, because then maybe it’s only 25% who neither had the vaccine or Covid, which means there is more protection then just saying 50% are walking around killing NJ. Then if you really like numbers like I do, I want to know of let’s say that 25% how many tested for antibodies or haven’t had Covid, then watch number go down even further.

I need all the data, these statements of “unvaccinated creating mutations and the reason for the spikes” isn’t making sense to me without seeing actual data that supports it. Especially when the vaccine is now requiring a 3rd shot within the same year and vaccinated are getting Covid.

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Posted by NervousNell

Posted by Sash

Posted by NervousNell

Posted by Sash

Posted by jellybean78

Posted by Raging2020

It’s something that I wish was easily available. Was hoping there was somewhere it was tracked.

I can’t imagine going to school maskless if the numbers are actually true. But hearing stories about people I know in real life going in for something and being required to Covid test for a concussion….is that part of the numbers? Are we back to testing healthy people to drive up numbers or are children really getting sick and hospital because of Covid? As a parent I want to know. I’m all about my kids being maskless, but this one has me curious.

ETA. How are you supposed to make informed decisions for your child when you can’t get the information you need???

I don't know why the data is so hard to find. I would think if the numbers of kids hospitalized is really increasing that the data would be all over the news supporting the claim. I agree it's hard to make informed decisions right now considering the lack of transparency on so many things COVID related.

Like I want to know the real percentage of vaccinated people getting COVID. It seems to me based on my social circle and what I've heard that a lot of vaccinated people are getting COVID now....more so than unvaccinated.

I would like to know the number of unvaccinated who had Covid this year. How many are truly unprotected? How many who are unvaccinated and got Covid twice this year?

I want to know what’s driving this “it’s all the unvaccinated fault” hypothesis. I haven’t had Covid a second time this year. My son has not had it at all.

My husband, DD and I all never had it. And we live pretty much normally even going to -GASP-restaurants multiple times a week. Travelling, the gym, etc
Or maybe we did have it and didn't know? DH is the only one who has been tested for antibodies- his Dr does it with routine bloodwork. He is negative.
Who knows- maybe some people have natural immunity. Maybe some people are less susceptible to it due to their immune response.
It hasn't been around long enough to know any of this.

Exactly! My sister was telling me how 50% in NJ were unvaccinated and I asked of the 50% how many had Covid this year, because then maybe it’s only 25% who neither had the vaccine or Covid, which means there is more protection then just saying 50% are walking around killing NJ. Then if you really like numbers like I do, I want to know of let’s say that 25% how many tested for antibodies or haven’t had Covid, then watch number go down even further.

I need all the data, these statements of “unvaccinated creating mutations and the reason for the spikes” isn’t making sense to me without seeing actual data that supports it. Especially when the vaccine is now requiring a 3rd shot within the same year and vaccinated are getting Covid.

And then of course, there's Isreal. The article I posted on the schoool year thread.
Highest vaccination rate in the world and Covid is surging there.
Who are we blaming for that?

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Posted by NervousNell

Posted by Sash

Posted by NervousNell

Posted by Sash

Posted by jellybean78

Posted by Raging2020

It’s something that I wish was easily available. Was hoping there was somewhere it was tracked.

I can’t imagine going to school maskless if the numbers are actually true. But hearing stories about people I know in real life going in for something and being required to Covid test for a concussion….is that part of the numbers? Are we back to testing healthy people to drive up numbers or are children really getting sick and hospital because of Covid? As a parent I want to know. I’m all about my kids being maskless, but this one has me curious.

ETA. How are you supposed to make informed decisions for your child when you can’t get the information you need???

I don't know why the data is so hard to find. I would think if the numbers of kids hospitalized is really increasing that the data would be all over the news supporting the claim. I agree it's hard to make informed decisions right now considering the lack of transparency on so many things COVID related.

Like I want to know the real percentage of vaccinated people getting COVID. It seems to me based on my social circle and what I've heard that a lot of vaccinated people are getting COVID now....more so than unvaccinated.

I would like to know the number of unvaccinated who had Covid this year. How many are truly unprotected? How many who are unvaccinated and got Covid twice this year?

I want to know what’s driving this “it’s all the unvaccinated fault” hypothesis. I haven’t had Covid a second time this year. My son has not had it at all.

My husband, DD and I all never had it. And we live pretty much normally even going to -GASP-restaurants multiple times a week. Travelling, the gym, etc
Or maybe we did have it and didn't know? DH is the only one who has been tested for antibodies- his Dr does it with routine bloodwork. He is negative.
Who knows- maybe some people have natural immunity. Maybe some people are less susceptible to it due to their immune response.
It hasn't been around long enough to know any of this.

Exactly! My sister was telling me how 50% in NJ were unvaccinated and I asked of the 50% how many had Covid this year, because then maybe it’s only 25% who neither had the vaccine or Covid, which means there is more protection then just saying 50% are walking around killing NJ. Then if you really like numbers like I do, I want to know of let’s say that 25% how many tested for antibodies or haven’t had Covid, then watch number go down even further.

I need all the data, these statements of “unvaccinated creating mutations and the reason for the spikes” isn’t making sense to me without seeing actual data that supports it. Especially when the vaccine is now requiring a 3rd shot within the same year and vaccinated are getting Covid.

And then of course, there's Isreal. The article I posted on the schoool year thread.
Highest vaccination rate in the world and Covid is surging there.
Who are we blaming for that?

Message edited 8/19/2021 10:06:36 AM.

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Posted by NervousNell

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Posted by jellybean78

Posted by Raging2020

It’s something that I wish was easily available. Was hoping there was somewhere it was tracked.

I can’t imagine going to school maskless if the numbers are actually true. But hearing stories about people I know in real life going in for something and being required to Covid test for a concussion….is that part of the numbers? Are we back to testing healthy people to drive up numbers or are children really getting sick and hospital because of Covid? As a parent I want to know. I’m all about my kids being maskless, but this one has me curious.

ETA. How are you supposed to make informed decisions for your child when you can’t get the information you need???

I don't know why the data is so hard to find. I would think if the numbers of kids hospitalized is really increasing that the data would be all over the news supporting the claim. I agree it's hard to make informed decisions right now considering the lack of transparency on so many things COVID related.

Like I want to know the real percentage of vaccinated people getting COVID. It seems to me based on my social circle and what I've heard that a lot of vaccinated people are getting COVID now....more so than unvaccinated.

I would like to know the number of unvaccinated who had Covid this year. How many are truly unprotected? How many who are unvaccinated and got Covid twice this year?

I want to know what’s driving this “it’s all the unvaccinated fault” hypothesis. I haven’t had Covid a second time this year. My son has not had it at all.

My husband, DD and I all never had it. And we live pretty much normally even going to -GASP-restaurants multiple times a week. Travelling, the gym, etc
Or maybe we did have it and didn't know? DH is the only one who has been tested for antibodies- his Dr does it with routine bloodwork. He is negative.
Who knows- maybe some people have natural immunity. Maybe some people are less susceptible to it due to their immune response.
It hasn't been around long enough to know any of this.

Exactly! My sister was telling me how 50% in NJ were unvaccinated and I asked of the 50% how many had Covid this year, because then maybe it’s only 25% who neither had the vaccine or Covid, which means there is more protection then just saying 50% are walking around killing NJ. Then if you really like numbers like I do, I want to know of let’s say that 25% how many tested for antibodies or haven’t had Covid, then watch number go down even further.

I need all the data, these statements of “unvaccinated creating mutations and the reason for the spikes” isn’t making sense to me without seeing actual data that supports it. Especially when the vaccine is now requiring a 3rd shot within the same year and vaccinated are getting Covid.

And then of course, there's Isreal. The article I posted on the schoool year thread.
Highest vaccination rate in the world and Covid is surging there.
Who are we blaming for that?

As you saw no one responded to your post about that showing why it was still the fault of the “the unvaccinated”. Lol. No one is touching that with a 10 foot pole because it disapproves all the random baseless theories people throw out there.

I didn’t want to get the vaccine because I knew it was too new and there would be a 3rd shot. I said many times on here and also mentioned the spike during the fall season, calling it Covid season and why it didn’t make sense to get in March. Looks like I was right on the money even though i was met with dumb passive aggressive comments.

I think the vaccine works against hospitalization and offers some type of protection. I think you should take it during a certain time similar to the flu shot to offer the best protection. I think if you had Covid within the past several months, you are just as protected as a vaccinated maybe even more so. We need to look at everything.

I think pushing everyone to get it in March was a mistake, I also think they need to test it more and fix the vaccine. I believe better treatments for Covid need to be researched and implemented as well. Not only focus on mandating and forcing the vaccine on people, especially on children.

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Posted by NervousNell

Posted by Sash

Posted by NervousNell

Posted by Sash

Posted by jellybean78

Posted by Raging2020

It’s something that I wish was easily available. Was hoping there was somewhere it was tracked.

I can’t imagine going to school maskless if the numbers are actually true. But hearing stories about people I know in real life going in for something and being required to Covid test for a concussion….is that part of the numbers? Are we back to testing healthy people to drive up numbers or are children really getting sick and hospital because of Covid? As a parent I want to know. I’m all about my kids being maskless, but this one has me curious.

ETA. How are you supposed to make informed decisions for your child when you can’t get the information you need???

I don't know why the data is so hard to find. I would think if the numbers of kids hospitalized is really increasing that the data would be all over the news supporting the claim. I agree it's hard to make informed decisions right now considering the lack of transparency on so many things COVID related.

Like I want to know the real percentage of vaccinated people getting COVID. It seems to me based on my social circle and what I've heard that a lot of vaccinated people are getting COVID now....more so than unvaccinated.

I would like to know the number of unvaccinated who had Covid this year. How many are truly unprotected? How many who are unvaccinated and got Covid twice this year?

I want to know what’s driving this “it’s all the unvaccinated fault” hypothesis. I haven’t had Covid a second time this year. My son has not had it at all.

My husband, DD and I all never had it. And we live pretty much normally even going to -GASP-restaurants multiple times a week. Travelling, the gym, etc
Or maybe we did have it and didn't know? DH is the only one who has been tested for antibodies- his Dr does it with routine bloodwork. He is negative.
Who knows- maybe some people have natural immunity. Maybe some people are less susceptible to it due to their immune response.
It hasn't been around long enough to know any of this.

Exactly! My sister was telling me how 50% in NJ were unvaccinated and I asked of the 50% how many had Covid this year, because then maybe it’s only 25% who neither had the vaccine or Covid, which means there is more protection then just saying 50% are walking around killing NJ. Then if you really like numbers like I do, I want to know of let’s say that 25% how many tested for antibodies or haven’t had Covid, then watch number go down even further.

I need all the data, these statements of “unvaccinated creating mutations and the reason for the spikes” isn’t making sense to me without seeing actual data that supports it. Especially when the vaccine is now requiring a 3rd shot within the same year and vaccinated are getting Covid.

And then of course, there's Isreal. The article I posted on the schoool year thread.
Highest vaccination rate in the world and Covid is surging there.
Who are we blaming for that?

That was my question here. What if EVERYONE got vaccinated and people were still getting sick. Who will you blame then? Right now they are blaming the unvaccinated when they don't even know if the vaccinated are spreading to the vaccinated. There are no numbers to prove it. They say, well the majority in the hospital is unvaccinated. How are we really supposed to know that? Anyone can say anything and like you said, we are just supposed to say, ok I believe you.

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Posted by windyweather21

Posted by NervousNell

Posted by Sash

Posted by NervousNell

Posted by Sash

Posted by jellybean78

Posted by Raging2020

It’s something that I wish was easily available. Was hoping there was somewhere it was tracked.

I can’t imagine going to school maskless if the numbers are actually true. But hearing stories about people I know in real life going in for something and being required to Covid test for a concussion….is that part of the numbers? Are we back to testing healthy people to drive up numbers or are children really getting sick and hospital because of Covid? As a parent I want to know. I’m all about my kids being maskless, but this one has me curious.

ETA. How are you supposed to make informed decisions for your child when you can’t get the information you need???

I don't know why the data is so hard to find. I would think if the numbers of kids hospitalized is really increasing that the data would be all over the news supporting the claim. I agree it's hard to make informed decisions right now considering the lack of transparency on so many things COVID related.

Like I want to know the real percentage of vaccinated people getting COVID. It seems to me based on my social circle and what I've heard that a lot of vaccinated people are getting COVID now....more so than unvaccinated.

I would like to know the number of unvaccinated who had Covid this year. How many are truly unprotected? How many who are unvaccinated and got Covid twice this year?

I want to know what’s driving this “it’s all the unvaccinated fault” hypothesis. I haven’t had Covid a second time this year. My son has not had it at all.

My husband, DD and I all never had it. And we live pretty much normally even going to -GASP-restaurants multiple times a week. Travelling, the gym, etc
Or maybe we did have it and didn't know? DH is the only one who has been tested for antibodies- his Dr does it with routine bloodwork. He is negative.
Who knows- maybe some people have natural immunity. Maybe some people are less susceptible to it due to their immune response.
It hasn't been around long enough to know any of this.

Exactly! My sister was telling me how 50% in NJ were unvaccinated and I asked of the 50% how many had Covid this year, because then maybe it’s only 25% who neither had the vaccine or Covid, which means there is more protection then just saying 50% are walking around killing NJ. Then if you really like numbers like I do, I want to know of let’s say that 25% how many tested for antibodies or haven’t had Covid, then watch number go down even further.

I need all the data, these statements of “unvaccinated creating mutations and the reason for the spikes” isn’t making sense to me without seeing actual data that supports it. Especially when the vaccine is now requiring a 3rd shot within the same year and vaccinated are getting Covid.

And then of course, there's Isreal. The article I posted on the schoool year thread.
Highest vaccination rate in the world and Covid is surging there.
Who are we blaming for that?

That was my question here. What if EVERYONE got vaccinated and people were still getting sick. Who will you blame then? Right now they are blaming the unvaccinated when they don't even know if the vaccinated are spreading to the vaccinated. There are no numbers to prove it. They say, well the majority in the hospital is unvaccinated. How are we really supposed to know that? Anyone can say anything and like you said, we are just supposed to say, ok I believe you.

Then you blame the vaccine and the companies who made it because clearly it isn't working and it needs to be reevaluated. They rushed it out- it's not beyond comprehension that it can very likely be less than perfect.
Maybe they need to go back and figure it out

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