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DiamondGirl
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Re: Cuomo wants to cap Superintendent Salaries..
Posted by MrsProfessor
I wonder if they are going to look at charter school principals/CEOs. Those are funded through a mix of private and public money (and a recent study showed some schools spend more per pupil that non-charter publics). There is at least one principal that I know of who makes close to $500k in salary and bonuses.
I wish they would shed some light on what is going on with these charter schools, it would SHOCK people.
I think this is a smart move,
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Re: Cuomo wants to cap Superintendent Salaries..
Posted by neener1211
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I think you would have plenty of well qualified people willing to take the position for $179,000. I think it's definitely a step in the right direction.
I completely agree!!!
ITA!
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Re: Cuomo wants to cap Superintendent Salaries..
Posted by DiamondGirl
Posted by MrsProfessor
I wonder if they are going to look at charter school principals/CEOs. Those are funded through a mix of private and public money (and a recent study showed some schools spend more per pupil that non-charter publics). There is at least one principal that I know of who makes close to $500k in salary and bonuses.
I wish they would shed some light on what is going on with these charter schools, it would SHOCK people.
I think this is a smart move,
ITA...everyone thinks they are the panacea...
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cjik
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Re: Cuomo wants to cap Superintendent Salaries..
This I have no problem with. That is an ample salary. I heard last night the Syosset Superintendent is earning just under $400,000? Crazy!
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| Posted 3/1/11 8:46 PM |
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Jackie24
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Re: Cuomo wants to cap Superintendent Salaries..
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MrsKS
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Re: Cuomo wants to cap Superintendent Salaries..
GREAT move!!!
and I think they will have ZERO problem finding sufficient super's at 175 g a year!! that's def a great salary!!!!
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MrsKS
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Re: Cuomo wants to cap Superintendent Salaries..
Posted by DiamondGirl
Posted by MrsProfessor
I wonder if they are going to look at charter school principals/CEOs. Those are funded through a mix of private and public money (and a recent study showed some schools spend more per pupil that non-charter publics). There is at least one principal that I know of who makes close to $500k in salary and bonuses.
I wish they would shed some light on what is going on with these charter schools, it would SHOCK people.
I think this is a smart move,
yikes that's nuts.
I hope they do shed light on these secrets!!
AND I can't believe it took this long to do this... but I won't complain because I'm happy that it's at least being done!!!
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| Posted 3/1/11 9:13 PM |
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MrsKS
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Re: Cuomo wants to cap Superintendent Salaries..
Posted by ChrisDee
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I still think they need to combine districts around here to gain greater economies of scale. Nassau & Suffolk counties have almost as many districts (126) as the rest of the entire state does (193).
ITA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
WOW!! I didn't know there were soo many districts in nassau and suffolk!!
that's nuts!!
hopefully that's another step they take!!!
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maybesoon
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Re: Cuomo wants to cap Superintendent Salaries..
I'm all for it!
I have to laugh at the people saying they are going to leave, where do you think you are going to get a job paying that?? I think the party is over
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| Posted 3/1/11 9:40 PM |
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juanvi
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Re: Cuomo wants to cap Superintendent Salaries..
I think lots will retire. This is good stuff!
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LL514
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Re: Cuomo wants to cap Superintendent Salaries..
Posted by CathyB
I still think they need to combine districts around here to gain greater economies of scale. Nassau & Suffolk counties have almost as many districts (126) as the rest of the entire state does (193).
maybe because there are a lot more people in nassau and suffolk than the rest of the state
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mdn13
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Re: Cuomo wants to cap Superintendent Salaries..
Posted by Nifheim
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but ths has happened in many private industries - most pilots took a 50% pay cut to keep jobs - it is a choice quit or take half pay - it is what the private industry said
also this has a huge impact on their retitrrement - because a lot of retireement is based on the averge salary over the last 6-8 years
Ah thank you for bringing that up - didn't know. So its fair!
Actually I think your initial devil's advocate thought was correct. It's NOT fair and it wasn't fair to the pilots. It was horrible and they should have struck.
Just because one persons hand was cut off does it mean they should cut another person's hand off too?
Look, I do think superintendents are paid too much. But I don't think it's up to the governor to change that. The trickle down afftect is way too scary.
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| Posted 3/1/11 9:53 PM |
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Re: Cuomo wants to cap Superintendent Salaries..
Posted by LL514
Posted by CathyB
I still think they need to combine districts around here to gain greater economies of scale. Nassau & Suffolk counties have almost as many districts (126) as the rest of the entire state does (193).
maybe because there are a lot more people in nassau and suffolk than the rest of the state
true! And we also have the some of the best schools in the nation so we must be doing something right.
And not for nothing, but where do people think the savings are going to come from? Not much will be cut (maybe 1 or 2%) There will still be a need for many offices like in NYC where there are regional offices and more layers of administrators to be paid for that.
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MrsKS
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Re: Cuomo wants to cap Superintendent Salaries..
Posted by LL514
Posted by CathyB
I still think they need to combine districts around here to gain greater economies of scale. Nassau & Suffolk counties have almost as many districts (126) as the rest of the entire state does (193).
maybe because there are a lot more people in nassau and suffolk than the rest of the state
hmm... are you including the city and the rest of the state together in this calculation??
I'm not a population expert.. but something tells me there isn't more people in nassau and suffolk than the entire rest of the state. I could be wrong about that bc again I'm not a population expert... but that just doesn't seem accurate.
ETA: I had to look this up because it had me curious...
nassau - 1,334,544
suffolk - 1,419,369
bklyn - 2,465,326
queens - 2,229,379
nystate - 18,976,457
these figures are as of the 2000 census. granted that's about 11 years ago, but unless LI is popping babies out in litters.... I'm sure the ratios are still pretty much the same.
If you count bklyn and queens as part of that equation it still doesn't equal half of the state population (7,448,618)... but I don't think they should be added in this because the comment is specifically about nassau and suffolk county school districts and those numbers don't include queens or bklyn.
so no, sorry but there are not a lot more people in suffolk and nassau than the rest of the state.
ETA again: how many school districts are in queens and bklyn? Because those areas are def more heavily populated than Nassau and Suffolk.
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Re: Cuomo wants to cap Superintendent Salaries..
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Erica
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Re: Cuomo wants to cap Superintendent Salaries..
I don't know - we don't have problems with CEOs of companies making multimillion dollar salaries. Essentially that is what a superintendent is.
I think consolodating and/or eliminating some administrator positions is the way to save without compromising education.
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Re: Cuomo wants to cap Superintendent Salaries..
Posted by maybesoon
I'm all for it!
I have to laugh at the people saying they are going to leave, where do you think you are going to get a job paying that?? I think the party is over
This is what I was thinking? They're going to leave the state? They'd probably make less than $175,000 anywhere else- and it would be difficult to find a job since other states don't have as many districts.
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cjik
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Re: Cuomo wants to cap Superintendent Salaries..
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Posted by maybesoon
I'm all for it!
I have to laugh at the people saying they are going to leave, where do you think you are going to get a job paying that?? I think the party is over
This is what I was thinking? They're going to leave the state? They'd probably make less than $175,000 anywhere else- and it would be difficult to find a job since other states don't have as many districts.
Agreed. They would have to leave the area, most other districts in the state don't pay nearly so well (maybe Westchester), and I believe NJ has a cap in place, no?
I don't think it's a bad idea, but I don't think it's enough either. And consolidation sounds good, but would anyone want one district for Nassau County with tax dollars being shared by wealthy and nonwealthy communities? I doubt it, a lot of control over the direction schools take would leave the towns.
Really not sure what the solution is, but consolidation is probably not completely the answer, nor will it happen quickly.
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Re: Cuomo wants to cap Superintendent Salaries..
Posted by maybesoon
I'm all for it!
I have to laugh at the people saying they are going to leave, where do you think you are going to get a job paying that?? I think the party is over
This was my thought exactly. Where are they going to go?
I am all for this idea. $175K is more than a fair salary.
ETA: You can't really compare a superintendent of a school district to the CEO of a private corporation. The CEO makes money based on the success of the corporation. If the corporation is in trouble financially the CEO loses his/her salary or job. If the corporation does well, the CEO earns a high salary. It doesn't work the same for public employees. School districts don't earn revenue. Yes, they are extremely important, I'm not arguing that at all, but its just not comparable. I do think they should earn a good salary, but not 100's of thousands a year plus incentives and benefits.
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Re: Cuomo wants to cap Superintendent Salaries..
Posted by Erica
I don't know - we don't have problems with CEOs of companies making multimillion dollar salaries.
I DO!!!
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Nifheim
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Re: Cuomo wants to cap Superintendent Salaries..
Our college president made a base salary of $176,000 in 2009. He does get on campus free housing, health insurance and medical.
I just did a search on all suny presidents (base they only show) and its kinda funny. I get why stony brook makes as much as they do since they have a hospital and var. research buildings but the average looks to be around 250K and yes they do all get a house, health insur, and medical but i would think running a college is a bit more challenging then running a school district but then again i am no expert.
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Nifheim
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Re: Cuomo wants to cap Superintendent Salaries..
BTW the average Assnt Professor-10 Month contract
$50 - $75K on the SUNY level these are people with Phd's as well.
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Re: Cuomo wants to cap Superintendent Salaries..
Posted by Erica
I don't know - we don't have problems with CEOs of companies making multimillion dollar salaries. Essentially that is what a superintendent is.
CEO salaries of companies are paid for by the earnings and company revenue and the stockholders do have a say in it. Their salaries are not paid by tax revenue. Big difference.
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MrsPenthouse
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Re: Cuomo wants to cap Superintendent Salaries..
I'm all for this! Any excessive salary funded by tax payers should be subject to a cap.
Teaching is a public service, I don't think anyone goes into it SOLELY to strike it rich. You know what you're getting into when you pursue this career. Superintendent salaries are out of control, $175 is beyond generous for them.
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CathyB
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Re: Cuomo wants to cap Superintendent Salaries..
Posted by mdn13
Posted by LL514
Posted by CathyB
I still think they need to combine districts around here to gain greater economies of scale. Nassau & Suffolk counties have almost as many districts (126) as the rest of the entire state does (193).
maybe because there are a lot more people in nassau and suffolk than the rest of the state
true! And we also have the some of the best schools in the nation so we must be doing something right.
And not for nothing, but where do people think the savings are going to come from? Not much will be cut (maybe 1 or 2%) There will still be a need for many offices like in NYC where there are regional offices and more layers of administrators to be paid for that.
This is what I was thinking. I live in Wantagh SD, which is a small SD. The next SD over is Seaford, which is also a small district (to the best of my knowledge). Wantagh has a super and 2 ***'t supers. Seaford also has a super and 2 ***'t supers. If the 2 districts were to combine, we'd only need one set of them, which is a savings on 3 salaries, benefits & pensions. I know in Wantagh there are roughly 8 directors of different areas of instruction (math, language, science, etc) that do not teach. If that's the same in Seaford, I have to believe there is currently duplication of work and we'd be able to make some cutbacks there as well. We would be buying 2x as many textbooks, lightbulbs, etc. so we get better price breaks. All these things add up to help decrease the tax burden on individual households in both districts.
But I've never worked in education so I might be totally wrong.
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