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Details emerge in Cobb Co. Georgia toddler death investigation

I have a pretty big SUV and I am a really neat/clean/organized person. That said in my truck I keep two strollers. A regular one and an umbrella. I have a car seat in the back for dd who is the same age as this little boy Cooper, dd's diaper bag which is stocked w everything mostly stays in the car and is on the floor under her car seat. Behind the driver and passenger seats I have books tucked there. In my front seat on the way to daycare I have my purse and dd's lunch bag, on Mondays I have her bedding for the week. There is NO way I would accidentally go to my car and not see a reminder of her if I "forgot" to take her to daycare. In the trunk are strollers w a view to my rear facing car seat. In the back I would see my child as well as her toys and diaper bag, in the front I would see her lunch bag I forgot.

I totally do not believe for one second he's innocent. At all.

I remember this winter a father was supposed to take his son (7mos?) to daycare which was not the norm. He forgot and went to work and daycare called the wife. Thank god the baby was okay bc it was really cold. I kind of get that. He doesn't normally take him, he wasn't at effing chic-fil-a two minutes prior.

In the year few years I changed my stance on the death penalty. I hope this guy doesn't get to kill himself. I hope he doesn't the execution march and is killed horribly. I hope he is abused horribly in jail before this happens. Every damn time I take dd in and out of the car I think about this baby.

Posted 6/29/14 1:58 PM
 
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Re: Details emerge in Cobb Co. Georgia toddler death investigation

I just can't stop thinking about this story. I read his reasoning for having searched for infant car deaths and how long it takes an animal to die in a hot car is because he was fearful it could happen. So, if you're fearful it could happen, wouldn't you be EXTREMELY cautious/bordering on paranoid and diligently check that car seat to make sure he never got left behind? If you were fearful it could happen, wouldn't you leave yourself every reminder/backup reminder to make certain it never did? If you were fearful it could happen, wouldn't you run a search for how NOT to forget your child in the car instead of how long it takes an animal to die in a hot car?!?!........ He was fearful it could happen so he ran a search on actual length of time? Is he going to claim that he only searched for length of time for an animal to die in a hot car because he wanted to see how long he could get away with leaving his child in the car without actually killing him? So, 6 hours are fine, but 7 hours are not?... If he was so fearful it could happen that he felt he had to run this search as he claims, wouldn't he be MORE on alert and more vigilant to make sure his child wasn't left in the car? His reasoning for the search is absurd. It's all too coincidental.

He would have to have some stroke of dumb luck if he's claiming innocence and his child just happens to die in a hot car after he just searched how long it takes an animal to die in a hot car. Dumb luck that he forgot his kid after he just had breakfast with him minutes ago, dumb luck that he forgot to drop his child off even though daycare was at the very same building as his job and probably daily routine, AND FORGET TO PICK HIM UP... dumb luck that he didn't think of his child all day even though they were in the same building (had time to run a drop off to your car, but not to check up on your son during a break eh?.. especially since your wife claims he's been having trouble sleeping the past couple nights you'd think as his father you'd want to check and see how he's doing, being in the same building and all)... dumb luck that he forgot him again when he went to the car during lunch, and more dumb luck that instead of instinctively going to pick up his kid (you know since you claimed to have thought you dropped him off, that's where he'd be... last place you left him.. and that's where your panic would set in.. not in a shopping center parking lot a short drive away) he instead just kept driving until he reached a parking lot full of witnesses and then claim his child had choked. Clearly, you forgot everything that fateful day. But, you didn't forget to run that search. You didn't forget to try to cover your tracks by lying and telling witnesses he choked instead of owning up to your HORRIBLE mistake?? If you supposedly finally realized your horrible forgetful mistake, why lie? Witnesses say the child was already blue/grey and his legs were still in the sitting position when he was laid down, so he'd been dead and decomposing for a while (he hadn't just choked as you lied or his body wouldn't be so far decomposed as they witnessed)... so, you didn't smell anything in the hot, humid, muggy car as soon as you opened the car door and sat in the driver seat? That stroke of dumb luck was just relentless that day.

Nothing about his story rings even remotely plausible. He'd have to suffer from some form of severe dementia or not be able to cognitively function in every day life if he was this forgetful. How would he even be able to dress himself much less care for a child or hold down a job? If he was this forgetful, he was a ticking time bomb and that child had no hope in his care - he'd eventually forget him in a supermarket, shopping mall, hot car... I just can't fathom this ridiculous story. If my DH was this happy-go-lucky, scatter-brained, absentminded, and fuking dimwitted, no way would I trust him with my kid. No way would I not be up his ass reminding him of his parental duties, such as not forgetting the kid on his way to work in the same fuking building. No way would I be all forgiving like his wife is and talk about having more/replacement kids with him a week after his "dumb luck forgetfulness" cost the life of our only child, at the child's funeral no less. People don't even talk about replacing their dog right after it dies, much less replacing their child at the child's funeral... No way would I be "absolutely not angry" with him as she's claiming. It's never ever crossed her mind to be angry she says. So she's not at all angry that her husband's bad chain of forgetfulness that day killed their child? If he's so forgetful, why did she leave the child in his care to begin with? She's not even angry at herself for leaving their baby in his absentminded care? How lovely, she can so easily forgive him and forgive herself. She comes off sounding like "oh well, these things happen." She goes on to say she feels compelled to speak out in her husband's defense, and then tells him she loves him and that she's doing this for him?? She has the strength and the calm level-headedness to make a speech at her son's funeral, and the speech isn't even about the son, it's in defense of her husband who is the direct cause of the child's death. Then the calm collectedness to go on talking on the phone with him as the child is being led away. Nope, no anger at all towards anyone from this woman... well, except the people accusing her husband maybe. She sounds more upset that her husband is being accused and having to defend him than at the loss of her child. Anger (especially over the loss of a child) is an absolutely normal emotion, even if it were misplaced.. even IF it was an accident - the emotions are the same because the outcome is the same... it wouldn't change the fact that the child died regardless. You'd have to not be human to not feel anger. Animals show more emotion and mourn the death of their young more than this woman does. So.. what's the opposite of angry, you disgusting piece of shit... Happy? Joyful? Pleased? So, you're the opposite of angry... you're happy?

Lies, all fuking lies! Dispose of them both! She's not angry and has no emotions because she was involved in the murder of her son. Even if it was an accident, she'd show emotion and anger. Throw her under the interrogation lights and let's see if she's still calm and collect. She wanted that computer to delete evidence and her own involvement. The more shit that comes out about this story the more horrible it sounds. That poor little boy. May he rest in peace. Chat Icon

wow this rant got long.... I just can't deal with this pathetic story, it's bothering me so much.

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Posted 6/29/14 7:37 PM
 

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Re: Details emerge in Cobb Co. Georgia toddler death investigation

Posted by JandJ1224

Not having used a daycare ever myself I am curious if they have some kind of attendance in place for Daycares. Like if a child just doesn't get dropped off, there should be calls made to the parents to confirm sick. I would think that would help avoid accidental situations....

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In my case they would never call if DD wasn't there because she only goes 3 days a week and sometimes we switch up which days she goes based on our schedules, etc. So for her to not be there on a Wednesday when she normally goes on a Wednesday is not unusual. We pay for 3 days, but she can go any 3 days we chose and we can vary them week to week.





Posted 6/29/14 9:14 PM
 

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Re: Details emerge in Cobb Co. Georgia toddler death investigation

I hope those two assholes are shittting in their pants right now.

Posted 6/29/14 9:22 PM
 

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Re: Details emerge in Cobb Co. Georgia toddler death investigation

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I just can't stop thinking about this story. I read his reasoning for having searched for infant car deaths and how long it takes an animal to die in a hot car is because he was fearful it could happen. So, if you're fearful it could happen, wouldn't you be EXTREMELY cautious/bordering on paranoid and diligently check that car seat to make sure he never got left behind? If you were fearful it could happen, wouldn't you leave yourself every reminder/backup reminder to make certain it never did? If you were fearful it could happen, wouldn't you run a search for how NOT to forget your child in the car instead of how long it takes an animal to die in a hot car?!?!........ He was fearful it could happen so he ran a search on actual length of time? Is he going to claim that he only searched for length of time for an animal to die in a hot car because he wanted to see how long he could get away with leaving his child in the car without actually killing him? So, 6 hours are fine, but 7 hours are not?... If he was so fearful it could happen that he felt he had to run this search as he claims, wouldn't he be MORE on alert and more vigilant to make sure his child wasn't left in the car? His reasoning for the search is absurd. It's all too coincidental.

He would have to have some stroke of dumb luck if he's claiming innocence and his child just happens to die in a hot car after he just searched how long it takes an animal to die in a hot car. Dumb luck that he forgot his kid after he just had breakfast with him minutes ago, dumb luck that he forgot to drop his child off even though daycare was at the very same building as his job and probably daily routine, AND FORGET TO PICK HIM UP... dumb luck that he didn't think of his child all day even though they were in the same building (had time to run a drop off to your car, but not to check up on your son during a break eh?.. especially since your wife claims he's been having trouble sleeping the past couple nights you'd think as his father you'd want to check and see how he's doing, being in the same building and all)... dumb luck that he forgot him again when he went to the car during lunch, and more dumb luck that instead of instinctively going to pick up his kid (you know since you claimed to have thought you dropped him off, that's where he'd be... last place you left him.. and that's where your panic would set in.. not in a shopping center parking lot a short drive away) he instead just kept driving until he reached a parking lot full of witnesses and then claim his child had choked. Clearly, you forgot everything that fateful day. But, you didn't forget to run that search. You didn't forget to try to cover your tracks by lying and telling witnesses he choked instead of owning up to your HORRIBLE mistake?? If you supposedly finally realized your horrible forgetful mistake, why lie? Witnesses say the child was already blue/grey and his legs were still in the sitting position when he was laid down, so he'd been dead and decomposing for a while (he hadn't just choked as you lied or his body wouldn't be so far decomposed as they witnessed)... so, you didn't smell anything in the hot, humid, muggy car as soon as you opened the car door and sat in the driver seat? That stroke of dumb luck was just relentless that day.

Nothing about his story rings even remotely plausible. He'd have to suffer from some form of severe dementia or not be able to cognitively function in every day life if he was this forgetful. How would he even be able to dress himself much less care for a child or hold down a job? If he was this forgetful, he was a ticking time bomb and that child had no hope in his care - he'd eventually forget him in a supermarket, shopping mall, hot car... I just can't fathom this ridiculous story. If my DH was this happy-go-lucky, scatter-brained, absentminded, and fuking dimwitted, no way would I trust him with my kid. No way would I not be up his ass reminding him of his parental duties, such as not forgetting the kid on his way to work in the same fuking building. No way would I be all forgiving like his wife is and talk about having more/replacement kids with him a week after his "dumb luck forgetfulness" cost the life of our only child, at the child's funeral no less. People don't even talk about replacing their dog right after it dies, much less replacing their child at the child's funeral... No way would I be "absolutely not angry" with him as she's claiming. It's never ever crossed her mind to be angry she says. So she's not at all angry that her husband's bad chain of forgetfulness that day killed their child? If he's so forgetful, why did she leave the child in his care to begin with? She's not even angry at herself for leaving their baby in his absentminded care? How lovely, she can so easily forgive him and forgive herself. She comes off sounding like "oh well, these things happen." She goes on to say she feels compelled to speak out in her husband's defense, and then tells him she loves him and that she's doing this for him?? She has the strength and the calm level-headedness to make a speech at her son's funeral, and the speech isn't even about the son, it's in defense of her husband who is the direct cause of the child's death. Then the calm collectedness to go on talking on the phone with him as the child is being led away. Nope, no anger at all towards anyone from this woman... well, except the people accusing her husband maybe. She sounds more upset that her husband is being accused and having to defend him than at the loss of her child. Anger (especially over the loss of a child) is an absolutely normal emotion, even if it were misplaced.. even IF it was an accident - the emotions are the same because the outcome is the same... it wouldn't change the fact that the child died regardless. You'd have to not be human to not feel anger. Animals show more emotion and mourn the death of their young more than this woman does. So.. what's the opposite of angry, you disgusting piece of shit... Happy? Joyful? Pleased? So, you're the opposite of angry... you're happy?

Lies, all fuking lies! Dispose of them both! She's not angry and has no emotions because she was involved in the murder of her son. Even if it was an accident, she'd show emotion and anger. Throw her under the interrogation lights and let's see if she's still calm and collect. She wanted that computer to delete evidence and her own involvement. The more shit that comes out about this story the more horrible it sounds. That poor little boy. May he rest in peace. Chat Icon

wow this rant got long.... I just can't deal with this pathetic story, it's bothering me so much.




You said it perfectly.

Posted 6/29/14 9:30 PM
 

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Re: Details emerge in Cobb Co. Georgia toddler death investigation

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a 22 month old child, even if they can't speak actual words yet is not someone who's quiet for an entire car ride in the morning ........

There is NO possible way, no matter how stressed, in a rush, distracted, etc to forget that a 2 year old is in the car w/ you - ESPECIALLY when you get out of the car and start walking awya - My kids would scream bloody murder if I ever did that, fod forbid!

NO WAY POSSIBLE




I have to disagree completely on this point. My son is almost 3. He barely speaks at all and is mostly silent in the car. And he would not scream if I walked away leaving him in the car.
I am in no means saying this is okay, but I do understand how it could happen. Just the other day hubby and I were in the car with our son and hubby forgot he was in the car. And he had put him in the carseat.

Posted 6/29/14 11:35 PM
 

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Re: Details emerge in Cobb Co. Georgia toddler death investigation

I cannot get this story out of my head.

They deserve each other, but should be sterilized so neither can ever have children again. I pray this poor boy passed out before he knew what was happening. I have no sympathy for these two monsters. None. They are animals

Posted 6/30/14 10:29 AM
 

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Details emerge in Cobb Co. Georgia toddler death investigation

ok so BOTH of them searched this .. yeah.. major red flags.

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Posted 6/30/14 10:32 AM
 

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Re: Details emerge in Cobb Co. Georgia toddler death investigation

they are both f'in a-holes. If they didn't want him anymore, there are countless families out there that would have been willing to adopt him. Instead they made him suffer. f'in animals. they should be locked in a 150 degree room to suffer. Chat Icon

Posted 6/30/14 10:53 AM
 

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Details emerge in Cobb Co. Georgia toddler death investigation

Posted by saraH

I cannot get this story out of my head.

They deserve each other, but should be sterilized so neither can ever have children again. I pray this poor boy passed out before he knew what was happening. I have no sympathy for these two monsters. None. They are animals



Me neither. I think about it constantly. Especially when I get in my car to cool it off before I put dd in Chat Icon

Posted 6/30/14 11:37 AM
 

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Re: Details emerge in Cobb Co. Georgia toddler death investigation

I just cry whenever I talk about this story. I don't understand what goes through people's heads. I mean, both parents wanted to kill him? Doesn't make sense. If one parent wanted to do it, I'd say - ok, sick fukk, whatever. But, both parents?? I don't get it. I'll never get it. And my heart is broken for that sweet little boy who didn't deserve to die like that.

Posted 6/30/14 11:55 AM
 

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Re: Details emerge in Cobb Co. Georgia toddler death investigation

Posted by ANewDayHasCome

I can't get this out of my head. I made myself physically sick last night with a migraine to the point I had to shut off the lights, tv and felt like I could vomit.

I really, really cannot understand how a parent could do this. I won't even close the door when I put dd in the car while I'm putting her stroller in the trunk.



I feel the same way. Every time I get into my car and feel the heat, I have images run through my head of this poor baby and what he went through. Makes me nauseous beyond belief and I can't stop crying.

Posted 6/30/14 12:03 PM
 

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Re: Details emerge in Cobb Co. Georgia toddler death investigation

Posted by limamaof2

Posted by ANewDayHasCome

I can't get this out of my head. I made myself physically sick last night with a migraine to the point I had to shut off the lights, tv and felt like I could vomit.

I really, really cannot understand how a parent could do this. I won't even close the door when I put dd in the car while I'm putting her stroller in the trunk.



I feel the same way. Every time I get into my car and feel the heat, I have images run through my head of this poor baby and what he went through. Makes me nauseous beyond belief and I can't stop crying.



Same here. this story has me so, so sick. Yesterday we were getting in the car and it was hot (i had turned the AC on and rolled down the windows for a good 5 minutes before we got in) and i went to put my little guy in and he said "mommy, it's too hot in here" and i Immediately thought about that sweet little boy probably uttering those same exact words... looking for someone to help him.

it truly breaks my heart Chat Icon

Posted 6/30/14 12:07 PM
 

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Re: Details emerge in Cobb Co. Georgia toddler death investigation

Posted by limamaof2

Posted by ANewDayHasCome

I can't get this out of my head. I made myself physically sick last night with a migraine to the point I had to shut off the lights, tv and felt like I could vomit.

I really, really cannot understand how a parent could do this. I won't even close the door when I put dd in the car while I'm putting her stroller in the trunk.



I feel the same way. Every time I get into my car and feel the heat, I have images run through my head of this poor baby and what he went through. Makes me nauseous beyond belief and I can't stop crying.



Exactly. Every. Single. Time. It makes me sick. I can't even think about this or talk about without crying.

Posted 6/30/14 12:08 PM
 

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Re: Details emerge in Cobb Co. Georgia toddler death investigation

Posted by MC09

I just can't stop thinking about this story. I read his reasoning for having searched for infant car deaths and how long it takes an animal to die in a hot car is because he was fearful it could happen. So, if you're fearful it could happen, wouldn't you be EXTREMELY cautious/bordering on paranoid and diligently check that car seat to make sure he never got left behind? If you were fearful it could happen, wouldn't you leave yourself every reminder/backup reminder to make certain it never did? If you were fearful it could happen, wouldn't you run a search for how NOT to forget your child in the car instead of how long it takes an animal to die in a hot car?!?!........ He was fearful it could happen so he ran a search on actual length of time? Is he going to claim that he only searched for length of time for an animal to die in a hot car because he wanted to see how long he could get away with leaving his child in the car without actually killing him? So, 6 hours are fine, but 7 hours are not?... If he was so fearful it could happen that he felt he had to run this search as he claims, wouldn't he be MORE on alert and more vigilant to make sure his child wasn't left in the car? His reasoning for the search is absurd. It's all too coincidental.

He would have to have some stroke of dumb luck if he's claiming innocence and his child just happens to die in a hot car after he just searched how long it takes an animal to die in a hot car. Dumb luck that he forgot his kid after he just had breakfast with him minutes ago, dumb luck that he forgot to drop his child off even though daycare was at the very same building as his job and probably daily routine, AND FORGET TO PICK HIM UP... dumb luck that he didn't think of his child all day even though they were in the same building (had time to run a drop off to your car, but not to check up on your son during a break eh?.. especially since your wife claims he's been having trouble sleeping the past couple nights you'd think as his father you'd want to check and see how he's doing, being in the same building and all)... dumb luck that he forgot him again when he went to the car during lunch, and more dumb luck that instead of instinctively going to pick up his kid (you know since you claimed to have thought you dropped him off, that's where he'd be... last place you left him.. and that's where your panic would set in.. not in a shopping center parking lot a short drive away) he instead just kept driving until he reached a parking lot full of witnesses and then claim his child had choked. Clearly, you forgot everything that fateful day. But, you didn't forget to run that search. You didn't forget to try to cover your tracks by lying and telling witnesses he choked instead of owning up to your HORRIBLE mistake?? If you supposedly finally realized your horrible forgetful mistake, why lie? Witnesses say the child was already blue/grey and his legs were still in the sitting position when he was laid down, so he'd been dead and decomposing for a while (he hadn't just choked as you lied or his body wouldn't be so far decomposed as they witnessed)... so, you didn't smell anything in the hot, humid, muggy car as soon as you opened the car door and sat in the driver seat? That stroke of dumb luck was just relentless that day.

Nothing about his story rings even remotely plausible. He'd have to suffer from some form of severe dementia or not be able to cognitively function in every day life if he was this forgetful. How would he even be able to dress himself much less care for a child or hold down a job? If he was this forgetful, he was a ticking time bomb and that child had no hope in his care - he'd eventually forget him in a supermarket, shopping mall, hot car... I just can't fathom this ridiculous story. If my DH was this happy-go-lucky, scatter-brained, absentminded, and fuking dimwitted, no way would I trust him with my kid. No way would I not be up his ass reminding him of his parental duties, such as not forgetting the kid on his way to work in the same fuking building. No way would I be all forgiving like his wife is and talk about having more/replacement kids with him a week after his "dumb luck forgetfulness" cost the life of our only child, at the child's funeral no less. People don't even talk about replacing their dog right after it dies, much less replacing their child at the child's funeral... No way would I be "absolutely not angry" with him as she's claiming. It's never ever crossed her mind to be angry she says. So she's not at all angry that her husband's bad chain of forgetfulness that day killed their child? If he's so forgetful, why did she leave the child in his care to begin with? She's not even angry at herself for leaving their baby in his absentminded care? How lovely, she can so easily forgive him and forgive herself. She comes off sounding like "oh well, these things happen." She goes on to say she feels compelled to speak out in her husband's defense, and then tells him she loves him and that she's doing this for him?? She has the strength and the calm level-headedness to make a speech at her son's funeral, and the speech isn't even about the son, it's in defense of her husband who is the direct cause of the child's death. Then the calm collectedness to go on talking on the phone with him as the child is being led away. Nope, no anger at all towards anyone from this woman... well, except the people accusing her husband maybe. She sounds more upset that her husband is being accused and having to defend him than at the loss of her child. Anger (especially over the loss of a child) is an absolutely normal emotion, even if it were misplaced.. even IF it was an accident - the emotions are the same because the outcome is the same... it wouldn't change the fact that the child died regardless. You'd have to not be human to not feel anger. Animals show more emotion and mourn the death of their young more than this woman does. So.. what's the opposite of angry, you disgusting piece of shit... Happy? Joyful? Pleased? So, you're the opposite of angry... you're happy?

Lies, all fuking lies! Dispose of them both! She's not angry and has no emotions because she was involved in the murder of her son. Even if it was an accident, she'd show emotion and anger. Throw her under the interrogation lights and let's see if she's still calm and collect. She wanted that computer to delete evidence and her own involvement. The more shit that comes out about this story the more horrible it sounds. That poor little boy. May he rest in peace. Chat Icon

wow this rant got long.... I just can't deal with this pathetic story, it's bothering me so much.



Too bad you're not the DA. All excellent points delivered succinctly

Posted 6/30/14 12:12 PM
 

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Re: Details emerge in Cobb Co. Georgia toddler death investigation

Posted by yelley

Posted by limamaof2

Posted by ANewDayHasCome

I can't get this out of my head. I made myself physically sick last night with a migraine to the point I had to shut off the lights, tv and felt like I could vomit.

I really, really cannot understand how a parent could do this. I won't even close the door when I put dd in the car while I'm putting her stroller in the trunk.



I feel the same way. Every time I get into my car and feel the heat, I have images run through my head of this poor baby and what he went through. Makes me nauseous beyond belief and I can't stop crying.



Same here. this story has me so, so sick. Yesterday we were getting in the car and it was hot (i had turned the AC on and rolled down the windows for a good 5 minutes before we got in) and i went to put my little guy in and he said "mommy, it's too hot in here" and i Immediately thought about that sweet little boy probably uttering those same exact words... looking for someone to help him.

it truly breaks my heart Chat Icon



same here.. my heart is just breaking for that poor baby

Posted 6/30/14 12:32 PM
 

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Re: Details emerge in Cobb Co. Georgia toddler death investigation

Posted by ANewDayHasCome

Posted by limamaof2

Posted by ANewDayHasCome

I can't get this out of my head. I made myself physically sick last night with a migraine to the point I had to shut off the lights, tv and felt like I could vomit.

I really, really cannot understand how a parent could do this. I won't even close the door when I put dd in the car while I'm putting her stroller in the trunk.



I feel the same way. Every time I get into my car and feel the heat, I have images run through my head of this poor baby and what he went through. Makes me nauseous beyond belief and I can't stop crying.



Exactly. Every. Single. Time. It makes me sick. I can't even think about this or talk about without crying.



I get a gnawing pain in my gut whenever I think about it. Like I could throw up.

Posted 6/30/14 12:43 PM
 

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Re: Details emerge in Cobb Co. Georgia toddler death investigation

Probably wouldn't work if you drive a stick like i do but put your purse or phone or something in the back, saw it on Facebook this morning

Shoe trick to prevent child death in hot cars

Posted 6/30/14 12:44 PM
 

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Re: Details emerge in Cobb Co. Georgia toddler death investigation

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Posted by ANewDayHasCome

Posted by limamaof2

Posted by ANewDayHasCome

I can't get this out of my head. I made myself physically sick last night with a migraine to the point I had to shut off the lights, tv and felt like I could vomit.

I really, really cannot understand how a parent could do this. I won't even close the door when I put dd in the car while I'm putting her stroller in the trunk.



I feel the same way. Every time I get into my car and feel the heat, I have images run through my head of this poor baby and what he went through. Makes me nauseous beyond belief and I can't stop crying.



Exactly. Every. Single. Time. It makes me sick. I can't even think about this or talk about without crying.



I get a gnawing pain in my gut whenever I think about it. Like I could throw up.



I describe it as being kicked in the stomach. Like if I allow my brain to think about it- which I try not to because I can't deal with it head on- I feel almost a physical pain, like a punch or kick on the gut.

Posted 6/30/14 1:05 PM
 

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Re: Details emerge in Cobb Co. Georgia toddler death investigation

As morbid as this is; at least this has brought awareness. Every single one of us on this thread has said countless times we are even more hyper aware of avoiding this tragedy. We cannot stop thinking about this baby & putting our own kids in his shoes.

Posted 6/30/14 1:07 PM
 

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Re: Details emerge in Cobb Co. Georgia toddler death investigation

Posted by DRMom

Posted by MC09

I just can't stop thinking about this story. I read his reasoning for having searched for infant car deaths and how long it takes an animal to die in a hot car is because he was fearful it could happen. So, if you're fearful it could happen, wouldn't you be EXTREMELY cautious/bordering on paranoid and diligently check that car seat to make sure he never got left behind? If you were fearful it could happen, wouldn't you leave yourself every reminder/backup reminder to make certain it never did? If you were fearful it could happen, wouldn't you run a search for how NOT to forget your child in the car instead of how long it takes an animal to die in a hot car?!?!........ He was fearful it could happen so he ran a search on actual length of time? Is he going to claim that he only searched for length of time for an animal to die in a hot car because he wanted to see how long he could get away with leaving his child in the car without actually killing him? So, 6 hours are fine, but 7 hours are not?... If he was so fearful it could happen that he felt he had to run this search as he claims, wouldn't he be MORE on alert and more vigilant to make sure his child wasn't left in the car? His reasoning for the search is absurd. It's all too coincidental.

He would have to have some stroke of dumb luck if he's claiming innocence and his child just happens to die in a hot car after he just searched how long it takes an animal to die in a hot car. Dumb luck that he forgot his kid after he just had breakfast with him minutes ago, dumb luck that he forgot to drop his child off even though daycare was at the very same building as his job and probably daily routine, AND FORGET TO PICK HIM UP... dumb luck that he didn't think of his child all day even though they were in the same building (had time to run a drop off to your car, but not to check up on your son during a break eh?.. especially since your wife claims he's been having trouble sleeping the past couple nights you'd think as his father you'd want to check and see how he's doing, being in the same building and all)... dumb luck that he forgot him again when he went to the car during lunch, and more dumb luck that instead of instinctively going to pick up his kid (you know since you claimed to have thought you dropped him off, that's where he'd be... last place you left him.. and that's where your panic would set in.. not in a shopping center parking lot a short drive away) he instead just kept driving until he reached a parking lot full of witnesses and then claim his child had choked. Clearly, you forgot everything that fateful day. But, you didn't forget to run that search. You didn't forget to try to cover your tracks by lying and telling witnesses he choked instead of owning up to your HORRIBLE mistake?? If you supposedly finally realized your horrible forgetful mistake, why lie? Witnesses say the child was already blue/grey and his legs were still in the sitting position when he was laid down, so he'd been dead and decomposing for a while (he hadn't just choked as you lied or his body wouldn't be so far decomposed as they witnessed)... so, you didn't smell anything in the hot, humid, muggy car as soon as you opened the car door and sat in the driver seat? That stroke of dumb luck was just relentless that day.

Nothing about his story rings even remotely plausible. He'd have to suffer from some form of severe dementia or not be able to cognitively function in every day life if he was this forgetful. How would he even be able to dress himself much less care for a child or hold down a job? If he was this forgetful, he was a ticking time bomb and that child had no hope in his care - he'd eventually forget him in a supermarket, shopping mall, hot car... I just can't fathom this ridiculous story. If my DH was this happy-go-lucky, scatter-brained, absentminded, and fuking dimwitted, no way would I trust him with my kid. No way would I not be up his ass reminding him of his parental duties, such as not forgetting the kid on his way to work in the same fuking building. No way would I be all forgiving like his wife is and talk about having more/replacement kids with him a week after his "dumb luck forgetfulness" cost the life of our only child, at the child's funeral no less. People don't even talk about replacing their dog right after it dies, much less replacing their child at the child's funeral... No way would I be "absolutely not angry" with him as she's claiming. It's never ever crossed her mind to be angry she says. So she's not at all angry that her husband's bad chain of forgetfulness that day killed their child? If he's so forgetful, why did she leave the child in his care to begin with? She's not even angry at herself for leaving their baby in his absentminded care? How lovely, she can so easily forgive him and forgive herself. She comes off sounding like "oh well, these things happen." She goes on to say she feels compelled to speak out in her husband's defense, and then tells him she loves him and that she's doing this for him?? She has the strength and the calm level-headedness to make a speech at her son's funeral, and the speech isn't even about the son, it's in defense of her husband who is the direct cause of the child's death. Then the calm collectedness to go on talking on the phone with him as the child is being led away. Nope, no anger at all towards anyone from this woman... well, except the people accusing her husband maybe. She sounds more upset that her husband is being accused and having to defend him than at the loss of her child. Anger (especially over the loss of a child) is an absolutely normal emotion, even if it were misplaced.. even IF it was an accident - the emotions are the same because the outcome is the same... it wouldn't change the fact that the child died regardless. You'd have to not be human to not feel anger. Animals show more emotion and mourn the death of their young more than this woman does. So.. what's the opposite of angry, you disgusting piece of shit... Happy? Joyful? Pleased? So, you're the opposite of angry... you're happy?

Lies, all fuking lies! Dispose of them both! She's not angry and has no emotions because she was involved in the murder of her son. Even if it was an accident, she'd show emotion and anger. Throw her under the interrogation lights and let's see if she's still calm and collect. She wanted that computer to delete evidence and her own involvement. The more shit that comes out about this story the more horrible it sounds. That poor little boy. May he rest in peace. Chat Icon

wow this rant got long.... I just can't deal with this pathetic story, it's bothering me so much.



Too bad you're not the DA. All excellent points delivered succinctly



ITA- word for word.

Posted 6/30/14 1:27 PM
 

RainaK
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Re: Details emerge in Cobb Co. Georgia toddler death investigation

Posted by afternoondelight828

Posted by MC09

I just can't stop thinking about this story. I read his reasoning for having searched for infant car deaths and how long it takes an animal to die in a hot car is because he was fearful it could happen. So, if you're fearful it could happen, wouldn't you be EXTREMELY cautious/bordering on paranoid and diligently check that car seat to make sure he never got left behind? If you were fearful it could happen, wouldn't you leave yourself every reminder/backup reminder to make certain it never did? If you were fearful it could happen, wouldn't you run a search for how NOT to forget your child in the car instead of how long it takes an animal to die in a hot car?!?!........ He was fearful it could happen so he ran a search on actual length of time? Is he going to claim that he only searched for length of time for an animal to die in a hot car because he wanted to see how long he could get away with leaving his child in the car without actually killing him? So, 6 hours are fine, but 7 hours are not?... If he was so fearful it could happen that he felt he had to run this search as he claims, wouldn't he be MORE on alert and more vigilant to make sure his child wasn't left in the car? His reasoning for the search is absurd. It's all too coincidental.

He would have to have some stroke of dumb luck if he's claiming innocence and his child just happens to die in a hot car after he just searched how long it takes an animal to die in a hot car. Dumb luck that he forgot his kid after he just had breakfast with him minutes ago, dumb luck that he forgot to drop his child off even though daycare was at the very same building as his job and probably daily routine, AND FORGET TO PICK HIM UP... dumb luck that he didn't think of his child all day even though they were in the same building (had time to run a drop off to your car, but not to check up on your son during a break eh?.. especially since your wife claims he's been having trouble sleeping the past couple nights you'd think as his father you'd want to check and see how he's doing, being in the same building and all)... dumb luck that he forgot him again when he went to the car during lunch, and more dumb luck that instead of instinctively going to pick up his kid (you know since you claimed to have thought you dropped him off, that's where he'd be... last place you left him.. and that's where your panic would set in.. not in a shopping center parking lot a short drive away) he instead just kept driving until he reached a parking lot full of witnesses and then claim his child had choked. Clearly, you forgot everything that fateful day. But, you didn't forget to run that search. You didn't forget to try to cover your tracks by lying and telling witnesses he choked instead of owning up to your HORRIBLE mistake?? If you supposedly finally realized your horrible forgetful mistake, why lie? Witnesses say the child was already blue/grey and his legs were still in the sitting position when he was laid down, so he'd been dead and decomposing for a while (he hadn't just choked as you lied or his body wouldn't be so far decomposed as they witnessed)... so, you didn't smell anything in the hot, humid, muggy car as soon as you opened the car door and sat in the driver seat? That stroke of dumb luck was just relentless that day.

Nothing about his story rings even remotely plausible. He'd have to suffer from some form of severe dementia or not be able to cognitively function in every day life if he was this forgetful. How would he even be able to dress himself much less care for a child or hold down a job? If he was this forgetful, he was a ticking time bomb and that child had no hope in his care - he'd eventually forget him in a supermarket, shopping mall, hot car... I just can't fathom this ridiculous story. If my DH was this happy-go-lucky, scatter-brained, absentminded, and fuking dimwitted, no way would I trust him with my kid. No way would I not be up his ass reminding him of his parental duties, such as not forgetting the kid on his way to work in the same fuking building. No way would I be all forgiving like his wife is and talk about having more/replacement kids with him a week after his "dumb luck forgetfulness" cost the life of our only child, at the child's funeral no less. People don't even talk about replacing their dog right after it dies, much less replacing their child at the child's funeral... No way would I be "absolutely not angry" with him as she's claiming. It's never ever crossed her mind to be angry she says. So she's not at all angry that her husband's bad chain of forgetfulness that day killed their child? If he's so forgetful, why did she leave the child in his care to begin with? She's not even angry at herself for leaving their baby in his absentminded care? How lovely, she can so easily forgive him and forgive herself. She comes off sounding like "oh well, these things happen." She goes on to say she feels compelled to speak out in her husband's defense, and then tells him she loves him and that she's doing this for him?? She has the strength and the calm level-headedness to make a speech at her son's funeral, and the speech isn't even about the son, it's in defense of her husband who is the direct cause of the child's death. Then the calm collectedness to go on talking on the phone with him as the child is being led away. Nope, no anger at all towards anyone from this woman... well, except the people accusing her husband maybe. She sounds more upset that her husband is being accused and having to defend him than at the loss of her child. Anger (especially over the loss of a child) is an absolutely normal emotion, even if it were misplaced.. even IF it was an accident - the emotions are the same because the outcome is the same... it wouldn't change the fact that the child died regardless. You'd have to not be human to not feel anger. Animals show more emotion and mourn the death of their young more than this woman does. So.. what's the opposite of angry, you disgusting piece of shit... Happy? Joyful? Pleased? So, you're the opposite of angry... you're happy?

Lies, all fuking lies! Dispose of them both! She's not angry and has no emotions because she was involved in the murder of her son. Even if it was an accident, she'd show emotion and anger. Throw her under the interrogation lights and let's see if she's still calm and collect. She wanted that computer to delete evidence and her own involvement. The more shit that comes out about this story the more horrible it sounds. That poor little boy. May he rest in peace. Chat Icon

wow this rant got long.... I just can't deal with this pathetic story, it's bothering me so much.




You said it perfectly.



My thoughts exactly

Posted 6/30/14 1:47 PM
 

MrsBurtch525
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Re: Details emerge in Cobb Co. Georgia toddler death investigation

Posted by Ayne11

As morbid as this is; at least this has brought awareness. Every single one of us on this thread has said countless times we are even more hyper aware of avoiding this tragedy. We cannot stop thinking about this baby & putting our own kids in his shoes.



Absolutely agree, this story and the picture of little Cooper just haunts me.

Posted 6/30/14 1:48 PM
 

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Re: Details emerge in Cobb Co. Georgia toddler death investigation

Posted by RainaK

Posted by afternoondelight828

Posted by MC09

I just can't stop thinking about this story. I read his reasoning for having searched for infant car deaths and how long it takes an animal to die in a hot car is because he was fearful it could happen. So, if you're fearful it could happen, wouldn't you be EXTREMELY cautious/bordering on paranoid and diligently check that car seat to make sure he never got left behind? If you were fearful it could happen, wouldn't you leave yourself every reminder/backup reminder to make certain it never did? If you were fearful it could happen, wouldn't you run a search for how NOT to forget your child in the car instead of how long it takes an animal to die in a hot car?!?!........ He was fearful it could happen so he ran a search on actual length of time? Is he going to claim that he only searched for length of time for an animal to die in a hot car because he wanted to see how long he could get away with leaving his child in the car without actually killing him? So, 6 hours are fine, but 7 hours are not?... If he was so fearful it could happen that he felt he had to run this search as he claims, wouldn't he be MORE on alert and more vigilant to make sure his child wasn't left in the car? His reasoning for the search is absurd. It's all too coincidental.

He would have to have some stroke of dumb luck if he's claiming innocence and his child just happens to die in a hot car after he just searched how long it takes an animal to die in a hot car. Dumb luck that he forgot his kid after he just had breakfast with him minutes ago, dumb luck that he forgot to drop his child off even though daycare was at the very same building as his job and probably daily routine, AND FORGET TO PICK HIM UP... dumb luck that he didn't think of his child all day even though they were in the same building (had time to run a drop off to your car, but not to check up on your son during a break eh?.. especially since your wife claims he's been having trouble sleeping the past couple nights you'd think as his father you'd want to check and see how he's doing, being in the same building and all)... dumb luck that he forgot him again when he went to the car during lunch, and more dumb luck that instead of instinctively going to pick up his kid (you know since you claimed to have thought you dropped him off, that's where he'd be... last place you left him.. and that's where your panic would set in.. not in a shopping center parking lot a short drive away) he instead just kept driving until he reached a parking lot full of witnesses and then claim his child had choked. Clearly, you forgot everything that fateful day. But, you didn't forget to run that search. You didn't forget to try to cover your tracks by lying and telling witnesses he choked instead of owning up to your HORRIBLE mistake?? If you supposedly finally realized your horrible forgetful mistake, why lie? Witnesses say the child was already blue/grey and his legs were still in the sitting position when he was laid down, so he'd been dead and decomposing for a while (he hadn't just choked as you lied or his body wouldn't be so far decomposed as they witnessed)... so, you didn't smell anything in the hot, humid, muggy car as soon as you opened the car door and sat in the driver seat? That stroke of dumb luck was just relentless that day.

Nothing about his story rings even remotely plausible. He'd have to suffer from some form of severe dementia or not be able to cognitively function in every day life if he was this forgetful. How would he even be able to dress himself much less care for a child or hold down a job? If he was this forgetful, he was a ticking time bomb and that child had no hope in his care - he'd eventually forget him in a supermarket, shopping mall, hot car... I just can't fathom this ridiculous story. If my DH was this happy-go-lucky, scatter-brained, absentminded, and fuking dimwitted, no way would I trust him with my kid. No way would I not be up his ass reminding him of his parental duties, such as not forgetting the kid on his way to work in the same fuking building. No way would I be all forgiving like his wife is and talk about having more/replacement kids with him a week after his "dumb luck forgetfulness" cost the life of our only child, at the child's funeral no less. People don't even talk about replacing their dog right after it dies, much less replacing their child at the child's funeral... No way would I be "absolutely not angry" with him as she's claiming. It's never ever crossed her mind to be angry she says. So she's not at all angry that her husband's bad chain of forgetfulness that day killed their child? If he's so forgetful, why did she leave the child in his care to begin with? She's not even angry at herself for leaving their baby in his absentminded care? How lovely, she can so easily forgive him and forgive herself. She comes off sounding like "oh well, these things happen." She goes on to say she feels compelled to speak out in her husband's defense, and then tells him she loves him and that she's doing this for him?? She has the strength and the calm level-headedness to make a speech at her son's funeral, and the speech isn't even about the son, it's in defense of her husband who is the direct cause of the child's death. Then the calm collectedness to go on talking on the phone with him as the child is being led away. Nope, no anger at all towards anyone from this woman... well, except the people accusing her husband maybe. She sounds more upset that her husband is being accused and having to defend him than at the loss of her child. Anger (especially over the loss of a child) is an absolutely normal emotion, even if it were misplaced.. even IF it was an accident - the emotions are the same because the outcome is the same... it wouldn't change the fact that the child died regardless. You'd have to not be human to not feel anger. Animals show more emotion and mourn the death of their young more than this woman does. So.. what's the opposite of angry, you disgusting piece of shit... Happy? Joyful? Pleased? So, you're the opposite of angry... you're happy?

Lies, all fuking lies! Dispose of them both! She's not angry and has no emotions because she was involved in the murder of her son. Even if it was an accident, she'd show emotion and anger. Throw her under the interrogation lights and let's see if she's still calm and collect. She wanted that computer to delete evidence and her own involvement. The more shit that comes out about this story the more horrible it sounds. That poor little boy. May he rest in peace. Chat Icon

wow this rant got long.... I just can't deal with this pathetic story, it's bothering me so much.




You said it perfectly.



My thoughts exactly



OMG Yes! This case is haunting me. What truly evil people.

Posted 6/30/14 8:05 PM
 

PaddysGirl
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Re: Details emerge in Cobb Co. Georgia toddler death investigation

Posted by Eunyboo

Chat Icon Chat Icon Chat Icon Chat Icon Chat Icon Chat Icon My face when I read the line about the computer search. That poor sweet baby. Chat Icon



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