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nbc188
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Re: Do you think daycare kids are better prepared for preshool?
Just specifically using what I know about my DD, who has never been in daycare, she goes to MIL's where she's the only child.
I don't think daycare would have helped her any more in the learning department than what she got at MIL's/home; if anything, she got more individual attention from us. She's very bright and articulate, so I don't think that would be any "better" if she had been in daycare.
But I do think she'd be more outgoing (up until a few months ago she was on the shy side until she warmed up to people), perhaps would have been a better eater earlier, and I think potty training would be easier if she saw other kids doing it. But I also think there are behaviors/language/etc that she could have picked up from being around other kids every day (at daycare) that I wouldn't be too fond of either....but those aren't really things that would prepare her for preschool.
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twicethefun
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Re: Do you think daycare kids are better prepared for preshool?
I personally think sending them to prek at a school is better. But I do think daycare is better than having them be in no programs until kindergarten.
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Bridex100
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Re: Do you think daycare kids are better prepared for preshool?
Posted by twicethefun
I personally think sending them to prek at a school is better. But I do think daycare is better than having them be in no programs until kindergarten.
DH thinks family care with structured classes (music, art, gym) is fine until preschool.
Currently my mom watches DS while we work. I can't help but wonder if daycare might be better for him.
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twicethefun
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Re: Do you think daycare kids are better prepared for preshool?
Posted by Tilde
Sorry for crashing, but do any kids just start school in kindergarten anymore?
Yes. Two children out of the 14 in my son's kindergarten class never went to any program before hand. Interestingly,one is well adjusted and doing fabulous and the other is not. THe one who is just surviving happens to be the youngest kid in the class.
My neigborhood is lower middle class. So these children could have been entered into a program, but parents chose not to. Both moms are teachers.
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Posted 5/11/10 8:35 PM |
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Re: Do you think daycare kids are better prepared for preshool?
I would say yes.
However, if you're a SAH Mom, their are plenty of different types of programs to put your DC in for half the cost, since you don't need whole day care.
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twicethefun
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Re: Do you think daycare kids are better prepared for preshool?
Posted by Bridex100
Posted by twicethefun
I personally think sending them to prek at a school is better. But I do think daycare is better than having them be in no programs until kindergarten.
DH thinks family care with structured classes (music, art, gym) is fine until preschool.
Currently my mom watches DS while we work. I can't help but wonder if daycare might be better for him.
I agree with your dh. I have worked in many daycares as a special educator from EI through preschool. I would never place my kids in a big daycare again. (My oldest did attend a big daycare center.) Never again.
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Re: Do you think daycare kids are better prepared for preshool?
Is there a high preschool drop-out rate these days?
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Janice
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Re: Do you think daycare kids are better prepared for preshool?
I don't know.
What I do know is my sah kid. At 3, he walked into his little art classroom and never looked back. No tears, sat and listened. Made friends, participated.
I had to take him out of soccer, he hated the disorganization of other 3 year olds not taking it seriously.
He has gone to classes with me from early on.
I know one area he is going to go into shock with when preschool time comes around...
naptime! he is going to think it is BS.
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Hofstra26
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Re: Do you think daycare kids are better prepared for preshool?
Posted by neenie
Is there a high preschool drop-out rate these days?
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Posted 5/11/10 9:07 PM |
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Re: Do you think daycare kids are better prepared for preshool?
Absolutely! You can always tell who the daycare kids are in preschool and kindergarten.
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twicethefun
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Michelle1123
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Re: Do you think daycare kids are better prepared for preshool?
Nope...at least not in the case of my dd. She had just one year of pre-k and never was in day care. At her parent-teacheer conference, my dh asked if the teacher thought she was ready for kindergarten (her birthday is only about 10 days before the cut-off date)
The teacher not only said she was ready, but said if she had to pick a handful of children from the class that were ready, G would definitely be in it. So, she was never in daycare, is definitely 1 of the youngest (if not THE youngest) and she is @ the head of the class.
I really think it depends on the child, home and playdate activities, and a million of other things.
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NinaLemon
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Re: Do you think daycare kids are better prepared for preshool?
Posted by Michelle1123
Nope...at least not in the case of my dd. She had just one year of pre-k and never was in day care. At her parent-teacheer conference, my dh asked if the teacher thought she was ready for kindergarten (her birthday is only about 10 days before the cut-off date)
The teacher not only said she was ready, but said if she had to pick a handful of children from the class that were ready, G would definitely be in it. So, she was never in daycare, is definitely 1 of the youngest (if not THE youngest) and she is @ the head of the class.
I really think it depends on the child, home and playdate activities, and a million of other things.
ITA agree. In my family alone there are 7 different kids all from the same situation (a SAHM) and there are 7 different outcomes. None of use were ever in daycare and the one who actually did go to pre-school before kindergarten is the one who had the most difficulty in school.
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Stacey1403
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Re: Do you think daycare kids are better prepared for preshool?
Posted by InShock
I'm not really understanding the question. Most kids that go to daycare - the daycare IS their preschool. Is the question supposed to be are they better prepared for Kindergarten?
If your child attends a licensed day care in NYS it must have a preschool.
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Ang-Rich
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Re: Do you think daycare kids are better prepared for preshool?
I don't think they are better prepared but I do think they are more prepared for the school setting and class dynamics. Academically I don't really agree that they are ahead...that's up to the parent and at the same time each child is different so it depends on what they are individually capable of.
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Hofstra26
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Re: Do you think daycare kids are better prepared for preshool?
Posted by Ang-Rich
I don't think they are better prepared but I do think they are more prepared for the school setting and class dynamics. Academically I don't really agree that they are ahead...that's up to the parent and at the same time each child is different so it depends on what they are individually capable of.
The thing is..........preschool is meant to prepare you for the school setting. The whole point of preschool is to teach children separation from their parents, socialization, basic skills, routines, cooperation, etc. etc. It's meant to teach children all of the skills they will need to function in Kindergarten and beyond. I don't think a child NEEDS to be in daycare to be a "success" in preschool. The same way a kid in daycare "learns the ropes" when they first start in daycare a child without any experience in daycare will also fair jut fine in preschool and "learn the ropes" quickly. You don't NEED to be prepared for preschool.........preschool itself is the preparation. Hence the name, it's PRE-school.
Again, years ago the majority of kids were products of SAHM's with our only exposure to socialization being our siblings and kids in the neighborhood and the only learning and activities came from our moms and with all that we went off to preschool, did great, figured out the whole school thing, and went on to elementary school with no problem.
Quite simply, IMO, whether a child is home 100% of the time with their mom or whether they are in a daycare setting in the end it does not matter one bit. Daycare won't make a child some preschool genius who is head and shoulders above other non-daycare kids in ability and being a child who is home with their mom for the first years won't make them inept to handle the "rigors" of preschool.
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lakadema
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Re: Do you think daycare kids are better prepared for preshool?
Posted by Hofstra26
Posted by Ang-Rich
I don't think they are better prepared but I do think they are more prepared for the school setting and class dynamics. Academically I don't really agree that they are ahead...that's up to the parent and at the same time each child is different so it depends on what they are individually capable of.
The thing is..........preschool is meant to prepare you for the school setting. The whole point of preschool is to teach children separation from their parents, socialization, basic skills, routines, cooperation, etc. etc. It's meant to teach children all of the skills they will need to function in Kindergarten and beyond. I don't think a child NEEDS to be in daycare to be a "success" in preschool. The same way a kid in daycare "learns the ropes" when they first start in daycare a child without any experience in daycare will also fair jut fine in preschool and "learn the ropes" quickly. You don't NEED to be prepared for preschool.........preschool itself is the preparation. Hence the name, it's PRE-school.
Again, years ago the majority of kids were products of SAHM's with our only exposure to socialization being our siblings and kids in the neighborhood and the only learning and activities came from our moms and with all that we went off to preschool, did great, figured out the whole school thing, and went on to elementary school with no problem.
Quite simply, IMO, whether a child is home 100% of the time with their mom or whether they are in a daycare setting in the end it does not matter one bit. Daycare won't make a child some preschool genius who is head and shoulders above other non-daycare kids in ability and being a child who is home with their mom for the first years won't make them inept to handle the "rigors" of preschool.
Couldn't have said it better myself! I don't think any daycare child will be better prepared for preschool than my son. I never went to daycare, never went to preschool and I was always performing above my peers and believe it or not could follow directions. That being said, my son will be attending pre school starting at 2 more so as a break for me than to prepare him for preschool.
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chelle
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Re: Do you think daycare kids are better prepared for preshool?
Posted by MarisaK
If I'm going to generalize, I'd say Yes.
But there are 5,000 variables that could make that go either way - so it really depends on the kid, the parent, the daycare, etc etc etc
ITA.
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beachgirl
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Re: Do you think daycare kids are better prepared for preshool?
Absolutely! You can always tell who the daycare kids are in preschool and kindergarten.
Care to explain as I am curious as to how you can tell?
TIA
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Re: Do you think daycare kids are better prepared for preshool?
I actually had no idea you needed an "edge" on preschool until reading this board. Maybe for some exclusive Manhattan preschool where there's a whole interview process and everything, but not a regular preschool.
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Ang-Rich
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Re: Do you think daycare kids are better prepared for preshool?
Posted by Hofstra26
Posted by Ang-Rich
I don't think they are better prepared but I do think they are more prepared for the school setting and class dynamics. Academically I don't really agree that they are ahead...that's up to the parent and at the same time each child is different so it depends on what they are individually capable of.
The thing is..........preschool is meant to prepare you for the school setting. The whole point of preschool is to teach children separation from their parents, socialization, basic skills, routines, cooperation, etc. etc. It's meant to teach children all of the skills they will need to function in Kindergarten and beyond. I don't think a child NEEDS to be in daycare to be a "success" in preschool. The same way a kid in daycare "learns the ropes" when they first start in daycare a child without any experience in daycare will also fair jut fine in preschool and "learn the ropes" quickly. You don't NEED to be prepared for preschool.........preschool itself is the preparation. Hence the name, it's PRE-school.
Again, years ago the majority of kids were products of SAHM's with our only exposure to socialization being our siblings and kids in the neighborhood and the only learning and activities came from our moms and with all that we went off to preschool, did great, figured out the whole school thing, and went on to elementary school with no problem.
Quite simply, IMO, whether a child is home 100% of the time with their mom or whether they are in a daycare setting in the end it does not matter one bit. Daycare won't make a child some preschool genius who is head and shoulders above other non-daycare kids in ability and being a child who is home with their mom for the first years won't make them inept to handle the "rigors" of preschool.
Whoa! I was answering the question which clearly stated PRE-SCHOOL. I completely agree that pre-school helps all children prepare for the dynamics of a classroom setting however children that have been in daycare are already familiar with this set up (please read: pushing in table chairs, lining up, raising hands to speak, etc)
It's just the familiarity of a classroom and expected class behavior that I was talking about for pre-school.
So we agree...but you pointed me out as though we didn't.
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twicethefun
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Re: Do you think daycare kids are better prepared for preshool?
Posted by beachgirl
Absolutely! You can always tell who the daycare kids are in preschool and kindergarten.
Care to explain as I am curious as to how you can tell?
TIA
I am not the one who made that statement, but...
As a teacher who has taught early intervention, CPSE, kindergarten- 8th grade I agree that there is sometimes a difference. But not all the differences are necessarily positive. Nor are they necessarily very important.
It really depends on the home, the parents and, if applicable, the daycare. I am adament that my children will never go to a big center again. Not just because of my son's own aweful experience, but because I often get to be an insider in centers and nursery schools (as a special ed teacher). THere is a big difference between daycare providers and nursery school teachers. Unfortunately many people don't get to see it first hand. Other than preparing students to sit a table together, daycare is pretty unnecesary preparation for preschool in my opinion. Children will learn to sit at the table for snack or on the rug in circle time in no time at all during preschool.
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Hofstra26
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Re: Do you think daycare kids are better prepared for preshool?
Posted by Ang-Rich
Posted by Hofstra26
Posted by Ang-Rich
I don't think they are better prepared but I do think they are more prepared for the school setting and class dynamics. Academically I don't really agree that they are ahead...that's up to the parent and at the same time each child is different so it depends on what they are individually capable of.
The thing is..........preschool is meant to prepare you for the school setting. The whole point of preschool is to teach children separation from their parents, socialization, basic skills, routines, cooperation, etc. etc. It's meant to teach children all of the skills they will need to function in Kindergarten and beyond. I don't think a child NEEDS to be in daycare to be a "success" in preschool. The same way a kid in daycare "learns the ropes" when they first start in daycare a child without any experience in daycare will also fair jut fine in preschool and "learn the ropes" quickly. You don't NEED to be prepared for preschool.........preschool itself is the preparation. Hence the name, it's PRE-school.
Again, years ago the majority of kids were products of SAHM's with our only exposure to socialization being our siblings and kids in the neighborhood and the only learning and activities came from our moms and with all that we went off to preschool, did great, figured out the whole school thing, and went on to elementary school with no problem.
Quite simply, IMO, whether a child is home 100% of the time with their mom or whether they are in a daycare setting in the end it does not matter one bit. Daycare won't make a child some preschool genius who is head and shoulders above other non-daycare kids in ability and being a child who is home with their mom for the first years won't make them inept to handle the "rigors" of preschool.
Whoa! I was answering the question which clearly stated PRE-SCHOOL. I completely agree that pre-school helps all children prepare for the dynamics of a classroom setting however children that have been in daycare are already familiar with this set up (please read: pushing in table chairs, lining up, raising hands to speak, etc)
It's just the familiarity of a classroom and expected class behavior that I was talking about for pre-school.
So we agree...but you pointed me out as though we didn't.
Didn't mean for it to sound that way. I just meant I don't think it matters if a kid has been to daycare. Kids will learn those routines like pushing in chairs and lining up in the first few days of preschool and they will get it just as fast as a kid who had to learn it for the first time in daycare. The kid from daycare may know to do it on the first day but by the 2nd or 3rd day the non-daycare kids will know how to do it too.
I taught Kindergarten and had kids that didn't go to daycare or even preschool and yes, the preschool kids knew right away how to hang their coats and push in their chairs but we spent the first few days of school learning those routines and within the first week of school all the kids knew what to do. So in the end, it doesn't really matter who knew what first and who did or didn't go to daycare or preschool because in the end they all learned what to do and could do it. KWIM?
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Goldi0218
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Re: Do you think daycare kids are better prepared for preshool?
Do I think MY child will be prepared for pre-school? Yes. Do I think ALL day care kids are more prepared for pre-school? No.
I was raised by a SAHM. I was in nursery school at 3 and 4 years old. I was reading before I was 4 but that was because I had someone reading to me everyday. I was prepared and I was not a day care child - then again, very few kids of my generation were.
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