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MrsDeVito
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Re: East Coast Fertility
Posted by BabyLove08
Posted by Angels04
But how does the word jealousy come to mind when all someone was doing was sharing a not so great experience with a facility? It just kind of sounds like you took sensitivity to hearing negativity of your facility and took it out on that poster. . It was the "miracle workers they are not comment!!"
But she very sincerly apologized before you posted your comment. And regardless I just feel like there really is no circumstance where calling a woman who is still struggling to conceive jealous of a woman who has been blessed with a child is warranted.
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Angels04
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Re: East Coast Fertility
Posted by MrsDeVito
Posted by BabyLove08
Posted by Angels04
But how does the word jealousy come to mind when all someone was doing was sharing a not so great experience with a facility? It just kind of sounds like you took sensitivity to hearing negativity of your facility and took it out on that poster. . It was the "miracle workers they are not comment!!"
But she very sincerly apologized before you posted your comment. And regardless I just feel like there really is no circumstance where calling a woman who is still struggling to conceive jealous of a woman who has been blessed with a child is warranted.
I totally agree! In all the boards I have been on, I have never seen this. I am taken back.
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BabyLove08
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Re: East Coast Fertility
Posted by MrsDeVito
Posted by BabyLove08
Posted by Angels04
But how does the word jealousy come to mind when all someone was doing was sharing a not so great experience with a facility? It just kind of sounds like you took sensitivity to hearing negativity of your facility and took it out on that poster. . It was the "miracle workers they are not comment!!"
But she very sincerly apologized before you posted your comment. And regardless I just feel like there really is no circumstance where calling a woman who is still struggling to conceive jealous of a woman who has been blessed with a child is warranted.
I posted apparently at around the same time as the other poster's apology and NEVER saw her explanation:)
This board is to post, reply, give opinions and suggestions. If people cannot take other people's thoughts then why have this board?
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Posted 3/24/11 5:34 AM |
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BabyLove08
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Re: East Coast Fertility
Posted by Angels04
Posted by MrsDeVito
Posted by BabyLove08
Posted by Angels04
But how does the word jealousy come to mind when all someone was doing was sharing a not so great experience with a facility? It just kind of sounds like you took sensitivity to hearing negativity of your facility and took it out on that poster. . It was the "miracle workers they are not comment!!"
But she very sincerly apologized before you posted your comment. And regardless I just feel like there really is no circumstance where calling a woman who is still struggling to conceive jealous of a woman who has been blessed with a child is warranted.
I totally agree! In all the boards I have been on, I have never seen this. I am taken back.
Ann,
I apoligized to the poster if I sounded insensitive, what part of I'm sorry are you not understanding? If you cannot learn to except apologizies then you may need to reevaluate your life
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Posted 3/24/11 5:35 AM |
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WaterGirl
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Re: East Coast Fertility
I am not going to reply to the drama...I'll just answer the original posters question.
I was originally seeing Dr. Palter. My DH had a bad feeling about him...and his feeling was right. After wasting a year and a half we decided to move to East Coast and Dr. Pena. We couldn't be happier. I am not PG yet, but I have full faith that Dr. Pena will help me bring home my baby.
If you have any questions regarding East Coast or Gold Coast IVF, feel free to FM me.
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Posted 3/24/11 6:17 AM |
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Angels04
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Name: Ann
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Re: East Coast Fertility
Posted by BabyLove08
Posted by Angels04
Posted by MrsDeVito
Posted by BabyLove08
Posted by Angels04
But how does the word jealousy come to mind when all someone was doing was sharing a not so great experience with a facility? It just kind of sounds like you took sensitivity to hearing negativity of your facility and took it out on that poster. . It was the "miracle workers they are not comment!!"
But she very sincerly apologized before you posted your comment. And regardless I just feel like there really is no circumstance where calling a woman who is still struggling to conceive jealous of a woman who has been blessed with a child is warranted.
I totally agree! In all the boards I have been on, I have never seen this. I am taken back.
Ann,
I apoligized to the poster if I sounded insensitive, what part of I'm sorry are you not understanding? If you cannot learn to except apologizies then you may need to reevaluate your life
You need to evaluate your aggressive attitude on a highly sensitive board. You are still continuing down the same path as your first post. I will no longer comment, just take it from where it is coming from. Again, been on many boards, never seen this kind of backlash from someone who simply did not like a negative comment about her facility.
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Posted 3/24/11 7:25 AM |
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Re: East Coast Fertility
If Dr. B was not an option, I'd see LI IVF. They have a great track record and wonderful hours, and 3 offices...one being in Melville.
If you are just doing simple IUIs that can turn to IVF at some point, LI IVF is fine. If you need out of the box type of thinking, they are not the way to go. Dr. B specializes in immune issues. If that's not your problem, or if you haven't had recurrent losses, convenience is something that can be higher up on the list. Dr. B doesn't have the best hours, and you could be waiting there a long time. LI IVF is great for that stuff.
Lots of luck to you.
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Posted 3/24/11 8:13 AM |
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I wasn't going to say anything and continue the drama but I can't just let this go.....
OMG! I have not seen anyone so ignorant, especially on the Infertility board, how can you be so insensitive??
How can you say someone is "jelous"??It was a simple, honest comment about a place (which we all know on this board and others) that doesn't get very many good reviews and to jump the wagon like that, not cool at all...
You tried to "applogize" but as we can see from your posts, your appology wasn't from the heart...you continue to be rude and insensitive...
Wow, never in a million years would I ever think this was going to happen on here...shame shame shame...
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Posted 3/24/11 8:22 AM |
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Re: East Coast Fertility
All being said and done, I will repeat something that is ALWAYS said on threads that ask this question: you will love the dr. who gets you pregnant-it could be Dr. Teeth from the Muppets! There is no reason to put down one dr. over another but it is totally fair to share your honest, and to the best of your ability, objective, experience.
That being said, like the PP, I would recommend LI IVF as well..I visited both there and East Coast (with East Coast being SUPER convenient for me) and found LI IVF had better hours for my work schedule, the convenience of locations near both home and work (you could go to more than one location if you just informed them) and I found them very organized. The nursing and office staff were also very responsive and friendly. I saw Dr. Brenner..he is not a mushy guy, but he tells you how it is and here's why I like and recommend him-he got me pregnant. Good luck in your journey, it is a difficult one, but keep your eye on what you want and it is all worth it...take care!
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Posted 3/24/11 8:38 AM |
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Leb
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Re: East Coast Fertility
Wow I didn't check this for a while!
I really really appreciate everyone's help by explaining their personal experiences. And obviously whoever gets you pregnant is your hero!
I am really torn. AF is probably coming today as my temp dropped this am and I feel her coming. So that means my 9th cycle didn't work. Dr. B suggested a straight forward IUI, but I am wondering if I should give it one more shot on my own or not?
At first I thought maybe I should try till the full year, then my acupuncturist suggested maybe one more time.
So WWYD if you were me? And let's say this is based on great CD3 testing and there are no know problems.
Would you give it another try, or would you just start the process?
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Posted 3/24/11 10:48 AM |
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PurpleC
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Re: East Coast Fertility
Im not going to continue the drama but for me not to say anything is eating me up. I actually read to my husband what was going on with this board. When I got to the jealous comment he was stunned. These women on this board are what gets me through my daily sadness of going through IF. I come to this site everyday to see what is going on and to see where my girls are at in their cycle. This being said calling someone jealous is horrible especially when you have been in her situation. If up don't have anything nice to say then don't say it at all! There are many fertility places that Im not fond of does that make me jealous of the ones that got pregnant there? No those doctors and places did not work for me but may work for others.
That being said Leb don't wait go forward with the IUI and do what Dr. B said. If you can try the IUI and see what happens. Good Luck on your journey!
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Posted 3/24/11 11:11 AM |
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BabyLove08
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Re: East Coast Fertility
Ladies,
Get a grip here, PLEASE, why is this getting SO out of hand? I explained myself and the way I took the comment I read and AGAIN said how sorry I was that I used an insensitive word on an infertility board when I MYSELF am an infertility patient and continue to be one, and never ever meant to hurt anyone. If you knew me, you'd know I wasn't that kind of person:)
*You can't take back something you said that is here in writing, now can you? I did what I could and said I was sorry, now can we all just move on and concentrate on having beautiful babies!!!
Much luck to all!
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Posted 3/24/11 11:49 AM |
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Angels04
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Re: East Coast Fertility
I was one of quite a few who responded STUNNED at your comment. AFTER your apology, you told me personally, "reevaluate your life," because I posted how shocked I was at the insensitivity. You kept it going! I KNOW where this is coming from, as I said before, as I don't know anyone going through fertility issues and calling someone "jealous" on an infertility board because they had a bad experience at your facility you worship. As someone else said, the apology didn't seem to come from the heart, as after, you continued with the sarcastic comment to me. Maybe you are having a bad day, I don't know...
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Posted 3/24/11 1:20 PM |
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LisaW
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Re: East Coast Fertility
Posted by BabyLove08
Posted by Coosie
Posted by KMCGK
ETA: Miracle workers they are not.
I am so sorry that you had such a bad experience with them - however, to me, they are MY miracle workers.
I sooo agree with you! Dr Pena at East Coast Fertility is my MIRACLE WORKER, I had my DD through my first cycle of IVF w ICSI like you 2.5 years ago. They're my heros there, FOREVER.
*I guess the other poster is feeling a bit jealous:)
Wow, just wow...I am sick to my stomach from that comment...and I never come on here anymore, but just kind of wanted to check in on people...SICK, JUST SICK...
To answer the original question...I went to ECF and saw Dr K. It was the first place I went and I didn't know better. I think I did 3 cycles when Dr K decided to cut me loose (I had already, unbeknownst to him, started the move over to Cornell), IMO, because I was ruining his wonderful "statistics". As I learned more, I realized he just plied me with more and more drugs when I wasn't producing what he expected...instead of trying new protocols, or actually testing to find out why I responded the way I did. Chalk it all up to a learning experience, but I still get angry about the time I wasted there.
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Posted 3/24/11 5:56 PM |
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curiousO
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Re: East Coast Fertility
oy vey...
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Posted 3/24/11 6:36 PM |
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KMCGK
Gotta have faith
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Re: East Coast Fertility
This board is to post, reply, give opinions and suggestions. If people cannot take other people's thoughts then why have this board?
BABYLOVE08 Yes, that is what this board is but you missed a key word, SUPPORT. We are here to support each other, offer each other aid, encouragement, etc. NOT name call or bully one another. It's not about "taking other people's thoughts." Whatever that means.
I'll accept the apology that you offered "to anyone that was offended." Not because you called me jealous, I've been called much worse, but I'm more so offended that you have upset this board.
Maybe you should come to the next GTG so you can get a "vibe" (as you called it) of the group and how we care to SUPPORT one another in our difficult journey.
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Posted 3/24/11 6:38 PM |
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MrsKS
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Re: East Coast Fertility
I never thought I'd read some of the things posted on here.
The jealousy comment was really insensitive. But then to offer an insincere apology and to go on to insult someone else. You would have to expect that people will have something to say back to you.
IDK if you realize how insincere your apology came off as.. but I think you need to evaluate the words you are choosing.
And when you wrote "if people cannot take other people's thoughts then why have this board?" Ummm YOU were the one who couldn't take the fact that someone else didn't like your dr. You are the one who can't take other people's thoughts... so why post here??
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Posted 3/24/11 7:22 PM |
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PennyCat
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Re: East Coast Fertility
Posted by MrsKS
And when you wrote "if people cannot take other people's thoughts then why have this board?" Ummm YOU were the one who couldn't take the fact that someone else didn't like your dr. You are the one who can't take other people's thoughts... so why post here??
Excellent point!
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Posted 3/24/11 7:46 PM |
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BabyLove08
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Re: East Coast Fertility
Posted by MrsKS
I never thought I'd read some of the things posted on here.
The jealousy comment was really insensitive. But then to offer an insincere apology and to go on to insult someone else. You would have to expect that people will have something to say back to you.
IDK if you realize how insincere your apology came off as.. but I think you need to evaluate the words you are choosing.
And when you wrote "if people cannot take other people's thoughts then why have this board?" Ummm YOU were the one who couldn't take the fact that someone else didn't like your dr. You are the one who can't take other people's thoughts... so why post here??
How insincere my apology came off? What are you people talking about? Do you not read English, I explained why I wrote what I wrote and it was based on the comment of "miracle workers they are not" and to to me THAT was "insensitive" of the poster to write and I did take OFFENSE when this clinic DID make all of my dreams come true and felt that the comment along with with the LOL smiley was to me written by someone who was (I'll change my wording), envious:) I read it, wrote what IMMEDIATELY came to mind and hit POST REPLY. I removed it when I realized I hurt peoples feelings but of course its still on where other people quoted me:) This is my last response, I hope you all have bigger and better posts to reply about:)
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MrsKS
Thank You St. Gerard.....
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Re: East Coast Fertility
Posted by BabyLove08
Posted by MrsKS
I never thought I'd read some of the things posted on here.
The jealousy comment was really insensitive. But then to offer an insincere apology and to go on to insult someone else. You would have to expect that people will have something to say back to you.
IDK if you realize how insincere your apology came off as.. but I think you need to evaluate the words you are choosing.
And when you wrote "if people cannot take other people's thoughts then why have this board?" Ummm YOU were the one who couldn't take the fact that someone else didn't like your dr. You are the one who can't take other people's thoughts... so why post here??
How insincere my apology came off? What are you people talking about? Do you not read English, I explained why I wrote what I wrote and it was based on the comment of "miracle workers they are not" and to to me THAT was "insensitive" of the poster to write and I did take OFFENSE when this clinic DID make all of my dreams come true and felt that the comment along with with the LOL smiley was to me written by someone who was (I'll change my wording), envious:) I read it, wrote what IMMEDIATELY came to mind and hit POST REPLY. I removed it when I realized I hurt peoples feelings but of course its still on where other people quoted me:) This is my last response, I hope you all have bigger and better posts to reply about:)
maybe it's the backwards smiley faces in awkward spots... but something about your writings come across as insensitive, combative, and insulting. Or perhaps it's just the negative words chosen.
It was her opinion that they aren't miracle workers. To then tell her that she's jealous because she feels they aren't miracle workers is overboard and ridiculous. If you think they are miracle workers then good... post that then leave it at that.. you don't have to say she's jealous or envious.... and envious isn't any better of a word BTW. Just because she didn't find them to be miracle workers for her DOES NOT make her jealous or envious of your success. She's commenting on her feelings towards the practice. It has nothing to do with you or your feelings towards the practice.
Not everyone is going to like every single doctor. Not every doctor out there is going to be perfect 100% of the time. Heck that's why they have malpractice insurance to begin with. I think you are the overly sensitive one. Some people don't like your doctor or your practice and they don't find them to be miracle workers, not a big deal. Other people will feel the opposite about a dr or practice. That's just how it is.
I personally did not find the "miracle workers they are not" comment to be insensitive at all. And if someone said that about my doctor... I still wouldn't find it to be insensitive... I think the things that you wrote were written by someone who is a ........ now wouldn't it be insensitive of me to complete that sentence??
ETA: smiley right back atcha!
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Posted 3/24/11 8:23 PM |
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Otherme
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Re: East Coast Fertility
i really didn't want to comment on this, but i can't refrain anymore
BABYLOVE08:
your original statement of jealousy, then the cavalier apology, then telling people to lighten up, then acting confused that people would take offense to your comments, topped off by your changing jealous to envious.. all sound to me like comments made by someone who has absolutely no idea what IF is
Then to read that you went through IF issues, and still have responded in this manner is just mind boggling
It's wonderful that you had success, really. But pretty much everyone else on this board is still struggling with IF and comes on here for support and advice - NOT to be told they're jealous or envious of someone else's success
As a PP said, everyone thinks the dr that got them a bfp is their miracle worker - and everyone has different types of experiences with different facilities. We all have a right to discuss those dr's without causing such drama
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Posted 3/25/11 12:28 PM |
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VeeJay
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Re: East Coast Fertility
To asnwer your question, yes I went to ECF. I was referred to Dr. Kreiner by my ob/gyn. When I called to make the consult appt Dr. Kreiner was out on family leave, and me being the impatient person that I am did not want to wait any longer so I scheduled an appointment with Dr. Pena. I went through the initial testing and found that I had bicournate uterus, which I later had removed. All-in-all I had 3 IUI's and 2 IVF cycles all resulted in BFN. After asking for additional testing and being denied, I decided to seek other opinions. I went to RSof NY in Stony Brook (I forgot which Dr. I saw there) and he told me they would not change anything in my protocols from ECF and did not think I needed any additional testing either. I then met with Dr. B who found immunological/clotting issues and I am currently going through my first IVF cycle with him. I have heard that Dr. Zapantis is great at ECF (a co-worker's wife met with him and had a baby girl via IVF). For me, Dr. PEna kept telling me percentages, statistics and ods of every cycle and it stressed me out way too much. Good luck!
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Posted 3/25/11 3:45 PM |
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katie629
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Re: East Coast Fertility
Saw Dr. Pena... Diagnosed with unexplained IF. Two failed IUI's... First IVF.. single embryo transfer... pg with DD who is now 5 months old. Dr. Pena is definitely does not sugar coat. I found he tells how he sees it. He brought me and my husband our DD and I can never be more thankful.
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Posted 3/27/11 1:31 PM |
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IVFMama
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Re: East Coast Fertility
Hi. I am new here and hope I can help. I have a unique perspective.
I'm a two-time IVF success story of Dr. Kreiner (ECF) and I worked for him for several years as a medical assistant. I only stopped to raise the babies we worked so hard to conceive. Otherwise I'd still be there lovingly poking you with needles and sharing my stories to encourage you to go on. Lucky for you, most of the wonderful and supportive staff who treated me and worked beside me are still there ready to help you conceive your little miracle. I know these people beyond what most patients can see and they are passionate about their job.
ECF is like a family. Patients drop by to show off thier babies, holiday cards and baby pics hang on the walls all year, people come back to the annual reunion celebration year after year. In fact, one of the patients I helped had a son and went back to school to become a nurse so she could work at ECF and be part of the magic of creating families for women like us.
I recently went with my niece to one of ECF's monthly seminars for new and prospective patients. It was after work and we heard presentations from Dr. Kreiner and several members of his team including embryology, insurance, grants, mind/body, acupuncture, head of nursing, etc. Then, they all hung out to answer the private questions of anyone there.
I learned that ECF offers some things that other clinics don't, like embryo glue and co-culture of embryos. They also have a wellness program and mind/body center that offers complementary services like acupuncture and meditation for those interested.
It's true what others have said about how you will hear good and bad about all programs. And you will see profoundly grateful moms defend their fertility docs to the extreme out of loyalty you do not yet feel. But you will feel it. Someday, most if not all of you will have your happy ending. I truly believe that.
So please do yourself a favor and don't rely on others' opinions. If you are curious about ECF, just go to the next free seminar at their Plainview office and hear for yourself. Ask your questions. Make your own informed decision. You have nothing to lose as the education you get will benefit you no matter where you go. My niece was impressed. Maybe you will be too.
Good luck to all of you. I wish you all only the best as you pursue your dream. Feel free to message me if I can help any of you. God Bless.
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