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Re: If only there were a way this could have been prevented
Posted by Anotherplease
How about giving him a ha You deserved it? That’s the feeling I am getting from a lot of these comments. Ready for my bashing now
Isn't it disgusting??? These women who CLAIM they care about others put up some nasty things. It really shows down deep how they really think are really act IRL.
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Re: If only there were a way this could have been prevented
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How about giving him a ha You deserved it? That’s the feeling I am getting from a lot of these comments. Ready for my bashing now
Nobody deserves to die but not everyone deserves your sympathy.
Except a poster on here that was told she doesn’t deserve to live. Ha! Couldn’t resist
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Re: If only there were a way this could have been prevented
Posted by windyweather21
Posted by Anotherplease
How about giving him a ha You deserved it? That’s the feeling I am getting from a lot of these comments. Ready for my bashing now
Isn't it disgusting??? These women who CLAIM they care about others put up some nasty things. It really shows down deep how they really think are really act IRL.
Where is there one post on here saying he deserved it? 
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Re: If only there were a way this could have been prevented
Wow. This post and most of the comments that follow it is such a disturbing demonstration of a complete lack of humanity, care and empathy, I can't even fathom that there are people like this out there in the world.
What exactly was the point of this post and the comments that follow it. "If only there were a way this could have been prevented?" Hmmm...do you all have a direct line to God? Did God tell you that if this man had been fully vaccinated he would have lived and been perfectly fine? I know IN REAL LIFE a woman that returned from a vacation in Florida where she picked up COVID and died this week. Fully Vaccinated. Is that rare? YES! But, it's also extremely rare that this 45 year old man would have died from COVID...Isn't it like a 1 percent chance of that happening? So who is to say that he wouldn't have died even if vaccinated even if rare. AND, moreover, who is to say if he had been fully vaccinated and had never gotten COVID that he wouldn't have suffered a life altering injury from the vaccine? Do you know this man? Do you know his personal history? SCIENCE has now established that there is a link between the COVID vaccines and Myocarditis, Pericarditis, Clots, GBS, Neurological issues and more. Is it rare? Probably but probably less rare than a 45 year old man dying of COVID with no pre existing conditions.
I don't see anyone posting the news story of the 13 year old boy in Michigan who died in his sleep after the COVID vaccine. The autopsy found he had heart inflammation. Should we all post it and say how dare his mom give a perfectly healthy boy with slim to no chance of dying of COVID the vaccine? It could have prevented his death right? No one is sitting here posting the countless articles like his story of the teens that have developed heart problems from the vaccines. There have been many deaths and injuries from these vaccines from causes that will be in the product insert as possible complications when these vaccines are approved. It's not hypothetical, it's not stupidity, it's not misinformation - it's rare but its been shown that these vaccines can and do have very bad possible complications.
My point is..How dare anyone on this thread judge this man when you have literally no clue what the situation is OR WOULD HAVE BEEN.
For all those that stand in judgment, are any of you overweight? any of you drank or smoke in your past? do you eat non-organic food? Dyes? gmos? How would you feel if you died of a heart attack or cancer or something else because you were overweight or something else you did and someone told YOUR child that it was YOUR FAULT because you could have prevented your death by going on a diet. Get the heck out of here with this thread. It's terrible.
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Re: If only there were a way this could have been prevented
Posted by itsbabytime
Wow. This post and most of the comments that follow it is such a disturbing demonstration of a complete lack of humanity, care and empathy, I can't even fathom that there are people like this out there in the world.
What exactly was the point of this post and the comments that follow it. "If only there were a way this could have been prevented?" Hmmm...do you all have a direct line to God? Did God tell you that if this man had been fully vaccinated he would have lived and been perfectly fine? I know IN REAL LIFE a woman that returned from a vacation in Florida where she picked up COVID and died this week. Fully Vaccinated. Is that rare? YES! But, it's also extremely rare that this 45 year old man would have died from COVID...Isn't it like a 1 percent chance of that happening? So who is to say that he wouldn't have died even if vaccinated even if rare. AND, moreover, who is to say if he had been fully vaccinated and had never gotten COVID that he wouldn't have suffered a life altering injury from the vaccine? Do you know this man? Do you know his personal history? SCIENCE has now established that there is a link between the COVID vaccines and Myocarditis, Pericarditis, Clots, GBS, Neurological issues and more. Is it rare? Probably but probably less rare than a 45 year old man dying of COVID with no pre existing conditions.
I don't see anyone posting the news story of the 13 year old boy in Michigan who died in his sleep after the COVID vaccine. The autopsy found he had heart inflammation. Should we all post it and say how dare his mom give a perfectly healthy boy with slim to no chance of dying of COVID the vaccine? It could have prevented his death right? No one is sitting here posting the countless articles like his story of the teens that have developed heart problems from the vaccines. There have been many deaths and injuries from these vaccines from causes that will be in the product insert as possible complications when these vaccines are approved. It's not hypothetical, it's not stupidity, it's not misinformation - it's rare but its been shown that these vaccines can and do have very bad possible complications.
My point is..How dare anyone on this thread judge this man when you have literally no clue what the situation is OR WOULD HAVE BEEN.
For all those that stand in judgment, are any of you overweight? any of you drank or smoke in your past? do you eat non-organic food? Dyes? gmos? How would you feel if you died of a heart attack or cancer or something else because you were overweight or something else you did and someone told YOUR child that it was YOUR FAULT because you could have prevented your death by going on a diet. Get the heck out of here with this thread. It's terrible.
Yep, thank you for saying this.
I know someone who's heathy 18 year old son died of a blood clot after getting the vaccine. They are contributing his death to the vaccine.
Can you image I came on here and posted about it and said- IF ONLY THERE WAS A WAY THIS COULD HAVE BEEN PREVENTED in regards to his death?
If only he didn't get that damn vaccine he'd be alive today!!!
It's almost like a ha ha ha I told you so.
And it's gross to be honest.
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Re: If only there were a way this could have been prevented
Posted by itsbabytime
Wow. This post and most of the comments that follow it is such a disturbing demonstration of a complete lack of humanity, care and empathy, I can't even fathom that there are people like this out there in the world.
What exactly was the point of this post and the comments that follow it. "If only there were a way this could have been prevented?" Hmmm...do you all have a direct line to God? Did God tell you that if this man had been fully vaccinated he would have lived and been perfectly fine? I know IN REAL LIFE a woman that returned from a vacation in Florida where she picked up COVID and died this week. Fully Vaccinated. Is that rare? YES! But, it's also extremely rare that this 45 year old man would have died from COVID...Isn't it like a 1 percent chance of that happening? So who is to say that he wouldn't have died even if vaccinated even if rare. AND, moreover, who is to say if he had been fully vaccinated and had never gotten COVID that he wouldn't have suffered a life altering injury from the vaccine? Do you know this man? Do you know his personal history? SCIENCE has now established that there is a link between the COVID vaccines and Myocarditis, Pericarditis, Clots, GBS, Neurological issues and more. Is it rare? Probably but probably less rare than a 45 year old man dying of COVID with no pre existing conditions.
I don't see anyone posting the news story of the 13 year old boy in Michigan who died in his sleep after the COVID vaccine. The autopsy found he had heart inflammation. Should we all post it and say how dare his mom give a perfectly healthy boy with slim to no chance of dying of COVID the vaccine? It could have prevented his death right? No one is sitting here posting the countless articles like his story of the teens that have developed heart problems from the vaccines. There have been many deaths and injuries from these vaccines from causes that will be in the product insert as possible complications when these vaccines are approved. It's not hypothetical, it's not stupidity, it's not misinformation - it's rare but its been shown that these vaccines can and do have very bad possible complications.
My point is..How dare anyone on this thread judge this man when you have literally no clue what the situation is OR WOULD HAVE BEEN.
For all those that stand in judgment, are any of you overweight? any of you drank or smoke in your past? do you eat non-organic food? Dyes? gmos? How would you feel if you died of a heart attack or cancer or something else because you were overweight or something else you did and someone told YOUR child that it was YOUR FAULT because you could have prevented your death by going on a diet. Get the heck out of here with this thread. It's terrible.
Exactly. Some of the posters are here are vile nasty repulsive people. They better hope karma don't come to bite them in the ass one day. Disgusting.
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Re: If only there were a way this could have been prevented
Posted by NervousNell
Posted by itsbabytime
Wow. This post and most of the comments that follow it is such a disturbing demonstration of a complete lack of humanity, care and empathy, I can't even fathom that there are people like this out there in the world.
What exactly was the point of this post and the comments that follow it. "If only there were a way this could have been prevented?" Hmmm...do you all have a direct line to God? Did God tell you that if this man had been fully vaccinated he would have lived and been perfectly fine? I know IN REAL LIFE a woman that returned from a vacation in Florida where she picked up COVID and died this week. Fully Vaccinated. Is that rare? YES! But, it's also extremely rare that this 45 year old man would have died from COVID...Isn't it like a 1 percent chance of that happening? So who is to say that he wouldn't have died even if vaccinated even if rare. AND, moreover, who is to say if he had been fully vaccinated and had never gotten COVID that he wouldn't have suffered a life altering injury from the vaccine? Do you know this man? Do you know his personal history? SCIENCE has now established that there is a link between the COVID vaccines and Myocarditis, Pericarditis, Clots, GBS, Neurological issues and more. Is it rare? Probably but probably less rare than a 45 year old man dying of COVID with no pre existing conditions.
I don't see anyone posting the news story of the 13 year old boy in Michigan who died in his sleep after the COVID vaccine. The autopsy found he had heart inflammation. Should we all post it and say how dare his mom give a perfectly healthy boy with slim to no chance of dying of COVID the vaccine? It could have prevented his death right? No one is sitting here posting the countless articles like his story of the teens that have developed heart problems from the vaccines. There have been many deaths and injuries from these vaccines from causes that will be in the product insert as possible complications when these vaccines are approved. It's not hypothetical, it's not stupidity, it's not misinformation - it's rare but its been shown that these vaccines can and do have very bad possible complications.
My point is..How dare anyone on this thread judge this man when you have literally no clue what the situation is OR WOULD HAVE BEEN.
For all those that stand in judgment, are any of you overweight? any of you drank or smoke in your past? do you eat non-organic food? Dyes? gmos? How would you feel if you died of a heart attack or cancer or something else because you were overweight or something else you did and someone told YOUR child that it was YOUR FAULT because you could have prevented your death by going on a diet. Get the heck out of here with this thread. It's terrible.
Yep, thank you for saying this.
I know someone who's heathy 18 year old son died of a blood clot after getting the vaccine. They are contributing his death to the vaccine.
Can you image I came on here and posted about it and said- IF ONLY THERE WAS A WAY THIS COULD HAVE BEEN PREVENTED in regards to his death?
If only he didn't get that damn vaccine he'd be alive today!!!
It's almost like a ha ha ha I told you so.
And it's gross to be honest.
OMG that is so horrible..
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Re: If only there were a way this could have been prevented
Posted by itsbabytime
Wow. This post and most of the comments that follow it is such a disturbing demonstration of a complete lack of humanity, care and empathy, I can't even fathom that there are people like this out there in the world.
What exactly was the point of this post and the comments that follow it. "If only there were a way this could have been prevented?" Hmmm...do you all have a direct line to God? Did God tell you that if this man had been fully vaccinated he would have lived and been perfectly fine? I know IN REAL LIFE a woman that returned from a vacation in Florida where she picked up COVID and died this week. Fully Vaccinated. Is that rare? YES! But, it's also extremely rare that this 45 year old man would have died from COVID...Isn't it like a 1 percent chance of that happening? So who is to say that he wouldn't have died even if vaccinated even if rare. AND, moreover, who is to say if he had been fully vaccinated and had never gotten COVID that he wouldn't have suffered a life altering injury from the vaccine? Do you know this man? Do you know his personal history? SCIENCE has now established that there is a link between the COVID vaccines and Myocarditis, Pericarditis, Clots, GBS, Neurological issues and more. Is it rare? Probably but probably less rare than a 45 year old man dying of COVID with no pre existing conditions.
I don't see anyone posting the news story of the 13 year old boy in Michigan who died in his sleep after the COVID vaccine. The autopsy found he had heart inflammation. Should we all post it and say how dare his mom give a perfectly healthy boy with slim to no chance of dying of COVID the vaccine? It could have prevented his death right? No one is sitting here posting the countless articles like his story of the teens that have developed heart problems from the vaccines. There have been many deaths and injuries from these vaccines from causes that will be in the product insert as possible complications when these vaccines are approved. It's not hypothetical, it's not stupidity, it's not misinformation - it's rare but its been shown that these vaccines can and do have very bad possible complications.
My point is..How dare anyone on this thread judge this man when you have literally no clue what the situation is OR WOULD HAVE BEEN.
For all those that stand in judgment, are any of you overweight? any of you drank or smoke in your past? do you eat non-organic food? Dyes? gmos? How would you feel if you died of a heart attack or cancer or something else because you were overweight or something else you did and someone told YOUR child that it was YOUR FAULT because you could have prevented your death by going on a diet. Get the heck out of here with this thread. It's terrible.
Couldn’t agree more. It’s actually less than 1%, the survival rate is 99.8%, not even mentioning a good majority have experienced either mild symptoms or have been asymptomatic. U’re right, there are countless of teens experiencing this and much more, even from the trials like the girl that’s been suffering life altering side effects since the trials and keeps getting worse. Her mom came forward talking about it but u rarely hear of this, and no ones has given them an explanation or assume responsibility. Or the teen that suffered neurological complications after the first shot. And this is only about teens. The same goes for what some expecting mothers have experienced after getting vaccinated. Most of the time is classified as natural causes, if the person died, or prior health problems, or they simply “can’t find an answer”.
I feel that these experiences should also be mentioned just like any other experience. Regardless of how rare they can be, they happen. This experience right here on this thread that people are talking about is also rare. A relatively young, healthy man dies of covid, according to statistics is rare and yet there is article after article that’s talking about it. That selectiveness in the media only makes people more skeptic and pushes them even further from getting vaccinated.
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Re: If only there were a way this could have been prevented
Posted by jellybean78
Posted by NervousNell
Posted by itsbabytime
Wow. This post and most of the comments that follow it is such a disturbing demonstration of a complete lack of humanity, care and empathy, I can't even fathom that there are people like this out there in the world.
What exactly was the point of this post and the comments that follow it. "If only there were a way this could have been prevented?" Hmmm...do you all have a direct line to God? Did God tell you that if this man had been fully vaccinated he would have lived and been perfectly fine? I know IN REAL LIFE a woman that returned from a vacation in Florida where she picked up COVID and died this week. Fully Vaccinated. Is that rare? YES! But, it's also extremely rare that this 45 year old man would have died from COVID...Isn't it like a 1 percent chance of that happening? So who is to say that he wouldn't have died even if vaccinated even if rare. AND, moreover, who is to say if he had been fully vaccinated and had never gotten COVID that he wouldn't have suffered a life altering injury from the vaccine? Do you know this man? Do you know his personal history? SCIENCE has now established that there is a link between the COVID vaccines and Myocarditis, Pericarditis, Clots, GBS, Neurological issues and more. Is it rare? Probably but probably less rare than a 45 year old man dying of COVID with no pre existing conditions.
I don't see anyone posting the news story of the 13 year old boy in Michigan who died in his sleep after the COVID vaccine. The autopsy found he had heart inflammation. Should we all post it and say how dare his mom give a perfectly healthy boy with slim to no chance of dying of COVID the vaccine? It could have prevented his death right? No one is sitting here posting the countless articles like his story of the teens that have developed heart problems from the vaccines. There have been many deaths and injuries from these vaccines from causes that will be in the product insert as possible complications when these vaccines are approved. It's not hypothetical, it's not stupidity, it's not misinformation - it's rare but its been shown that these vaccines can and do have very bad possible complications.
My point is..How dare anyone on this thread judge this man when you have literally no clue what the situation is OR WOULD HAVE BEEN.
For all those that stand in judgment, are any of you overweight? any of you drank or smoke in your past? do you eat non-organic food? Dyes? gmos? How would you feel if you died of a heart attack or cancer or something else because you were overweight or something else you did and someone told YOUR child that it was YOUR FAULT because you could have prevented your death by going on a diet. Get the heck out of here with this thread. It's terrible.
Yep, thank you for saying this.
I know someone who's heathy 18 year old son died of a blood clot after getting the vaccine. They are contributing his death to the vaccine.
Can you image I came on here and posted about it and said- IF ONLY THERE WAS A WAY THIS COULD HAVE BEEN PREVENTED in regards to his death?
If only he didn't get that damn vaccine he'd be alive today!!!
It's almost like a ha ha ha I told you so.
And it's gross to be honest.
OMG that is so horrible..
Yes I know. And after that, my BIL, who was close friends with the father of the kid who died, texted us begging us to not vaccinate our daughter (she's too young and I don't plan to anyway) but now he's so upset about this incident it has made him extra nervous about the vaccine.
So you don't really know people's reasons for why they feel a certain way about something.
And you really shouldn't judge.
Or worse, mock.
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Re: If only there were a way this could have been prevented
Literally no one said he deserved to die.
To compare this death to the (very rare) death of someone from the vaccine is a complete and total false equivalency. That poor soul was trying to do the right thing while this man that we’re talking about spewed anti-mask and anti-vax disinformation which almost certainly ended up infecting and for all we know killing someone at some point. That is what is causing some people to have a hard time summoning up sympathy for him.
If you don’t want to get the vaccine don’t get the vaccine but don’t spread lies and discourage people from wearing masks. Stay home and mask up to keep others safe. It’s the people who won’t get the vaccine but refuse to take precautions who are the vile, disgusting people.
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Re: If only there were a way this could have been prevented
Posted by itsbabytime
Wow. This post and most of the comments that follow it is such a disturbing demonstration of a complete lack of humanity, care and empathy, I can't even fathom that there are people like this out there in the world.
What exactly was the point of this post and the comments that follow it. "If only there were a way this could have been prevented?" Hmmm...do you all have a direct line to God? Did God tell you that if this man had been fully vaccinated he would have lived and been perfectly fine? I know IN REAL LIFE a woman that returned from a vacation in Florida where she picked up COVID and died this week. Fully Vaccinated. Is that rare? YES! But, it's also extremely rare that this 45 year old man would have died from COVID...Isn't it like a 1 percent chance of that happening? So who is to say that he wouldn't have died even if vaccinated even if rare. AND, moreover, who is to say if he had been fully vaccinated and had never gotten COVID that he wouldn't have suffered a life altering injury from the vaccine? Do you know this man? Do you know his personal history? SCIENCE has now established that there is a link between the COVID vaccines and Myocarditis, Pericarditis, Clots, GBS, Neurological issues and more. Is it rare? Probably but probably less rare than a 45 year old man dying of COVID with no pre existing conditions.
I don't see anyone posting the news story of the 13 year old boy in Michigan who died in his sleep after the COVID vaccine. The autopsy found he had heart inflammation. Should we all post it and say how dare his mom give a perfectly healthy boy with slim to no chance of dying of COVID the vaccine? It could have prevented his death right? No one is sitting here posting the countless articles like his story of the teens that have developed heart problems from the vaccines. There have been many deaths and injuries from these vaccines from causes that will be in the product insert as possible complications when these vaccines are approved. It's not hypothetical, it's not stupidity, it's not misinformation - it's rare but its been shown that these vaccines can and do have very bad possible complications.
My point is..How dare anyone on this thread judge this man when you have literally no clue what the situation is OR WOULD HAVE BEEN.
For all those that stand in judgment, are any of you overweight? any of you drank or smoke in your past? do you eat non-organic food? Dyes? gmos? How would you feel if you died of a heart attack or cancer or something else because you were overweight or something else you did and someone told YOUR child that it was YOUR FAULT because you could have prevented your death by going on a diet. Get the heck out of here with this thread. It's terrible.
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Re: If only there were a way this could have been prevented
Posted by JennP
Literally no one said he deserved to die.
To compare this death to the (very rare) death of someone from the vaccine is a complete and total false equivalency. That poor soul was trying to do the right thing while this man that we’re talking about spewed anti-mask and anti-vax disinformation which almost certainly ended up infecting and for all we know killing someone at some point. That is what is causing some people to have a hard time summoning up sympathy for him.
If you don’t want to get the vaccine don’t get the vaccine but don’t spread lies and discourage people from wearing masks. Stay home and mask up to keep others safe. It’s the people who won’t get the vaccine but refuse to take precautions who are the vile, disgusting people.
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Re: If only there were a way this could have been prevented
Posted by itsbabytime
Wow. This post and most of the comments that follow it is such a disturbing demonstration of a complete lack of humanity, care and empathy, I can't even fathom that there are people like this out there in the world.
What exactly was the point of this post and the comments that follow it. "If only there were a way this could have been prevented?" Hmmm...do you all have a direct line to God? Did God tell you that if this man had been fully vaccinated he would have lived and been perfectly fine? I know IN REAL LIFE a woman that returned from a vacation in Florida where she picked up COVID and died this week. Fully Vaccinated. Is that rare? YES! But, it's also extremely rare that this 45 year old man would have died from COVID...Isn't it like a 1 percent chance of that happening? So who is to say that he wouldn't have died even if vaccinated even if rare. AND, moreover, who is to say if he had been fully vaccinated and had never gotten COVID that he wouldn't have suffered a life altering injury from the vaccine? Do you know this man? Do you know his personal history? SCIENCE has now established that there is a link between the COVID vaccines and Myocarditis, Pericarditis, Clots, GBS, Neurological issues and more. Is it rare? Probably but probably less rare than a 45 year old man dying of COVID with no pre existing conditions.
I don't see anyone posting the news story of the 13 year old boy in Michigan who died in his sleep after the COVID vaccine. The autopsy found he had heart inflammation. Should we all post it and say how dare his mom give a perfectly healthy boy with slim to no chance of dying of COVID the vaccine? It could have prevented his death right? No one is sitting here posting the countless articles like his story of the teens that have developed heart problems from the vaccines. There have been many deaths and injuries from these vaccines from causes that will be in the product insert as possible complications when these vaccines are approved. It's not hypothetical, it's not stupidity, it's not misinformation - it's rare but its been shown that these vaccines can and do have very bad possible complications.
My point is..How dare anyone on this thread judge this man when you have literally no clue what the situation is OR WOULD HAVE BEEN.
For all those that stand in judgment, are any of you overweight? any of you drank or smoke in your past? do you eat non-organic food? Dyes? gmos? How would you feel if you died of a heart attack or cancer or something else because you were overweight or something else you did and someone told YOUR child that it was YOUR FAULT because you could have prevented your death by going on a diet. Get the heck out of here with this thread. It's terrible.
Yo can get off your high horse now. He is being judged (on this site and many others) for spreading false and misleading information. And for using his position as an elected official for doing so. Not for being overweight and not for making his personal choice to not get the vaccine. But for the harm he has almost certainly spread to others
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Re: If only there were a way this could have been prevented
Posted by chilltocam
Posted by itsbabytime
Wow. This post and most of the comments that follow it is such a disturbing demonstration of a complete lack of humanity, care and empathy, I can't even fathom that there are people like this out there in the world.
What exactly was the point of this post and the comments that follow it. "If only there were a way this could have been prevented?" Hmmm...do you all have a direct line to God? Did God tell you that if this man had been fully vaccinated he would have lived and been perfectly fine? I know IN REAL LIFE a woman that returned from a vacation in Florida where she picked up COVID and died this week. Fully Vaccinated. Is that rare? YES! But, it's also extremely rare that this 45 year old man would have died from COVID...Isn't it like a 1 percent chance of that happening? So who is to say that he wouldn't have died even if vaccinated even if rare. AND, moreover, who is to say if he had been fully vaccinated and had never gotten COVID that he wouldn't have suffered a life altering injury from the vaccine? Do you know this man? Do you know his personal history? SCIENCE has now established that there is a link between the COVID vaccines and Myocarditis, Pericarditis, Clots, GBS, Neurological issues and more. Is it rare? Probably but probably less rare than a 45 year old man dying of COVID with no pre existing conditions.
I don't see anyone posting the news story of the 13 year old boy in Michigan who died in his sleep after the COVID vaccine. The autopsy found he had heart inflammation. Should we all post it and say how dare his mom give a perfectly healthy boy with slim to no chance of dying of COVID the vaccine? It could have prevented his death right? No one is sitting here posting the countless articles like his story of the teens that have developed heart problems from the vaccines. There have been many deaths and injuries from these vaccines from causes that will be in the product insert as possible complications when these vaccines are approved. It's not hypothetical, it's not stupidity, it's not misinformation - it's rare but its been shown that these vaccines can and do have very bad possible complications.
My point is..How dare anyone on this thread judge this man when you have literally no clue what the situation is OR WOULD HAVE BEEN.
For all those that stand in judgment, are any of you overweight? any of you drank or smoke in your past? do you eat non-organic food? Dyes? gmos? How would you feel if you died of a heart attack or cancer or something else because you were overweight or something else you did and someone told YOUR child that it was YOUR FAULT because you could have prevented your death by going on a diet. Get the heck out of here with this thread. It's terrible.
Yo can get off your high horse now. He is being judged (on this site and many others) for spreading false and misleading information. And for using his position as an elected official for doing so. Not for being overweight and not for making his personal choice to not get the vaccine. But for the harm he has almost certainly spread to others
The fake self righteousness is laughable. We're bad people because his death could have been completely preventable and we're pointing it out, but he bears no responsibility for his actions?
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Re: If only there were a way this could have been prevented
Posted by soontobemommyof2
Posted by itsbabytime
Wow. This post and most of the comments that follow it is such a disturbing demonstration of a complete lack of humanity, care and empathy, I can't even fathom that there are people like this out there in the world.
What exactly was the point of this post and the comments that follow it. "If only there were a way this could have been prevented?" Hmmm...do you all have a direct line to God? Did God tell you that if this man had been fully vaccinated he would have lived and been perfectly fine? I know IN REAL LIFE a woman that returned from a vacation in Florida where she picked up COVID and died this week. Fully Vaccinated. Is that rare? YES! But, it's also extremely rare that this 45 year old man would have died from COVID...Isn't it like a 1 percent chance of that happening? So who is to say that he wouldn't have died even if vaccinated even if rare. AND, moreover, who is to say if he had been fully vaccinated and had never gotten COVID that he wouldn't have suffered a life altering injury from the vaccine? Do you know this man? Do you know his personal history? SCIENCE has now established that there is a link between the COVID vaccines and Myocarditis, Pericarditis, Clots, GBS, Neurological issues and more. Is it rare? Probably but probably less rare than a 45 year old man dying of COVID with no pre existing conditions.
I don't see anyone posting the news story of the 13 year old boy in Michigan who died in his sleep after the COVID vaccine. The autopsy found he had heart inflammation. Should we all post it and say how dare his mom give a perfectly healthy boy with slim to no chance of dying of COVID the vaccine? It could have prevented his death right? No one is sitting here posting the countless articles like his story of the teens that have developed heart problems from the vaccines. There have been many deaths and injuries from these vaccines from causes that will be in the product insert as possible complications when these vaccines are approved. It's not hypothetical, it's not stupidity, it's not misinformation - it's rare but its been shown that these vaccines can and do have very bad possible complications.
My point is..How dare anyone on this thread judge this man when you have literally no clue what the situation is OR WOULD HAVE BEEN.
For all those that stand in judgment, are any of you overweight? any of you drank or smoke in your past? do you eat non-organic food? Dyes? gmos? How would you feel if you died of a heart attack or cancer or something else because you were overweight or something else you did and someone told YOUR child that it was YOUR FAULT because you could have prevented your death by going on a diet. Get the heck out of here with this thread. It's terrible.
Couldn’t agree more. It’s actually less than 1%, the survival rate is 99.8%, not even mentioning a good majority have experienced either mild symptoms or have been asymptomatic. U’re right, there are countless of teens experiencing this and much more, even from the trials like the girl that’s been suffering life altering side effects since the trials and keeps getting worse. Her mom came forward talking about it but u rarely hear of this, and no ones has given them an explanation or assume responsibility. Or the teen that suffered neurological complications after the first shot. And this is only about teens. The same goes for what some expecting mothers have experienced after getting vaccinated. Most of the time is classified as natural causes, if the person died, or prior health problems, or they simply “can’t find an answer”.
I feel that these experiences should also be mentioned just like any other experience. Regardless of how rare they can be, they happen. This experience right here on this thread that people are talking about is also rare. A relatively young, healthy man dies of covid, according to statistics is rare and yet there is article after article that’s talking about it. That selectiveness in the media only makes people more skeptic and pushes them even further from getting vaccinated.
Aren’t most, if not all, of those side effects mentioned above also potential consequences of getting COVID? With many people experiencing long term effects and possibly long term or permanent damage to organs from COVID, I’m curious whether these effects are more likely as a result of the vaccine or the virus. No one knows how the vaccine or the virus will affect us. It’s an individual risk/benefit analysis. What’s right for you may not be right for me. It’s one thing to make a personal decision for yourself or your family, but it’s dangerous to actively spread misinformation to others.
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| Posted 8/5/21 4:37 PM |
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soontobemommyof2
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Re: If only there were a way this could have been prevented
Posted by MrsS2005
Posted by soontobemommyof2
Posted by itsbabytime
Wow. This post and most of the comments that follow it is such a disturbing demonstration of a complete lack of humanity, care and empathy, I can't even fathom that there are people like this out there in the world.
What exactly was the point of this post and the comments that follow it. "If only there were a way this could have been prevented?" Hmmm...do you all have a direct line to God? Did God tell you that if this man had been fully vaccinated he would have lived and been perfectly fine? I know IN REAL LIFE a woman that returned from a vacation in Florida where she picked up COVID and died this week. Fully Vaccinated. Is that rare? YES! But, it's also extremely rare that this 45 year old man would have died from COVID...Isn't it like a 1 percent chance of that happening? So who is to say that he wouldn't have died even if vaccinated even if rare. AND, moreover, who is to say if he had been fully vaccinated and had never gotten COVID that he wouldn't have suffered a life altering injury from the vaccine? Do you know this man? Do you know his personal history? SCIENCE has now established that there is a link between the COVID vaccines and Myocarditis, Pericarditis, Clots, GBS, Neurological issues and more. Is it rare? Probably but probably less rare than a 45 year old man dying of COVID with no pre existing conditions.
I don't see anyone posting the news story of the 13 year old boy in Michigan who died in his sleep after the COVID vaccine. The autopsy found he had heart inflammation. Should we all post it and say how dare his mom give a perfectly healthy boy with slim to no chance of dying of COVID the vaccine? It could have prevented his death right? No one is sitting here posting the countless articles like his story of the teens that have developed heart problems from the vaccines. There have been many deaths and injuries from these vaccines from causes that will be in the product insert as possible complications when these vaccines are approved. It's not hypothetical, it's not stupidity, it's not misinformation - it's rare but its been shown that these vaccines can and do have very bad possible complications.
My point is..How dare anyone on this thread judge this man when you have literally no clue what the situation is OR WOULD HAVE BEEN.
For all those that stand in judgment, are any of you overweight? any of you drank or smoke in your past? do you eat non-organic food? Dyes? gmos? How would you feel if you died of a heart attack or cancer or something else because you were overweight or something else you did and someone told YOUR child that it was YOUR FAULT because you could have prevented your death by going on a diet. Get the heck out of here with this thread. It's terrible.
Couldn’t agree more. It’s actually less than 1%, the survival rate is 99.8%, not even mentioning a good majority have experienced either mild symptoms or have been asymptomatic. U’re right, there are countless of teens experiencing this and much more, even from the trials like the girl that’s been suffering life altering side effects since the trials and keeps getting worse. Her mom came forward talking about it but u rarely hear of this, and no ones has given them an explanation or assume responsibility. Or the teen that suffered neurological complications after the first shot. And this is only about teens. The same goes for what some expecting mothers have experienced after getting vaccinated. Most of the time is classified as natural causes, if the person died, or prior health problems, or they simply “can’t find an answer”.
I feel that these experiences should also be mentioned just like any other experience. Regardless of how rare they can be, they happen. This experience right here on this thread that people are talking about is also rare. A relatively young, healthy man dies of covid, according to statistics is rare and yet there is article after article that’s talking about it. That selectiveness in the media only makes people more skeptic and pushes them even further from getting vaccinated.
Aren’t most, if not all, of those side effects mentioned above also potential consequences of getting COVID? With many people experiencing long term effects and possibly long term or permanent damage to organs from COVID, I’m curious whether these effects are more likely as a result of the vaccine or the virus. No one knows how the vaccine or the virus will affect us. It’s an individual risk/benefit analysis. What’s right for you may not be right for me. It’s one thing to make a personal decision for yourself or your family, but it’s dangerous to actively spread misinformation to others.
I wholeheartedly agree with u...it’s an individual decision based on a risk/benefit analysis. But after so much censorship, how can someone truly be able to do a full risk/benefit analysis when only one side of the story is told? It’d never be possible. Censorship has been happening for a while, years actually but never to the point that has been happening since covid. Literally every little thing that gets questioned, it’s automatically dismissed and labeled as a conspiracy theory. Someone said earlier -I believe in this thread- that she hasn’t met any doctor that advises against the vaccine (or at least gives ‘full’ informed consent). They exist, some very vocal and some not at all. The ones that opt to not be vocal is because there’s a lot on the line, their reputation, their license, their credibility, and not to be an alarmist but even their life can be in danger. Look at the “the disinformed dozen” that Biden is talking about. He’s putting a target on people’s backs. I know many of them and I can tell u they have dedicated years, and decades to their work, by providing alternative medicine to their patients and improving their health by the roots and not just putting a bandaid and treating their symptoms only. By bringing attention to the big problem that we’ve having of antibiotic overuse. By focusing on healthier living and how this can be achieved by improving our diets, environment, habits, etc. They have helped thousands and thousands of people over so many years so all that must mean something. But unfortunately they’re being silenced by force. I wish more people would realize what a huge red flag this is and what a massive slippery slope this is. I hope more people would question all of this because if something it’s being silent, it’s because there are some that don’t want it to exist for ulterior motives.
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| Posted 8/5/21 10:12 PM |
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3girls1dog
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Re: If only there were a way this could have been prevented
Posted by soontobemommyof2
Posted by MrsS2005
Posted by soontobemommyof2
Posted by itsbabytime
Wow. This post and most of the comments that follow it is such a disturbing demonstration of a complete lack of humanity, care and empathy, I can't even fathom that there are people like this out there in the world.
What exactly was the point of this post and the comments that follow it. "If only there were a way this could have been prevented?" Hmmm...do you all have a direct line to God? Did God tell you that if this man had been fully vaccinated he would have lived and been perfectly fine? I know IN REAL LIFE a woman that returned from a vacation in Florida where she picked up COVID and died this week. Fully Vaccinated. Is that rare? YES! But, it's also extremely rare that this 45 year old man would have died from COVID...Isn't it like a 1 percent chance of that happening? So who is to say that he wouldn't have died even if vaccinated even if rare. AND, moreover, who is to say if he had been fully vaccinated and had never gotten COVID that he wouldn't have suffered a life altering injury from the vaccine? Do you know this man? Do you know his personal history? SCIENCE has now established that there is a link between the COVID vaccines and Myocarditis, Pericarditis, Clots, GBS, Neurological issues and more. Is it rare? Probably but probably less rare than a 45 year old man dying of COVID with no pre existing conditions.
I don't see anyone posting the news story of the 13 year old boy in Michigan who died in his sleep after the COVID vaccine. The autopsy found he had heart inflammation. Should we all post it and say how dare his mom give a perfectly healthy boy with slim to no chance of dying of COVID the vaccine? It could have prevented his death right? No one is sitting here posting the countless articles like his story of the teens that have developed heart problems from the vaccines. There have been many deaths and injuries from these vaccines from causes that will be in the product insert as possible complications when these vaccines are approved. It's not hypothetical, it's not stupidity, it's not misinformation - it's rare but its been shown that these vaccines can and do have very bad possible complications.
My point is..How dare anyone on this thread judge this man when you have literally no clue what the situation is OR WOULD HAVE BEEN.
For all those that stand in judgment, are any of you overweight? any of you drank or smoke in your past? do you eat non-organic food? Dyes? gmos? How would you feel if you died of a heart attack or cancer or something else because you were overweight or something else you did and someone told YOUR child that it was YOUR FAULT because you could have prevented your death by going on a diet. Get the heck out of here with this thread. It's terrible.
Couldn’t agree more. It’s actually less than 1%, the survival rate is 99.8%, not even mentioning a good majority have experienced either mild symptoms or have been asymptomatic. U’re right, there are countless of teens experiencing this and much more, even from the trials like the girl that’s been suffering life altering side effects since the trials and keeps getting worse. Her mom came forward talking about it but u rarely hear of this, and no ones has given them an explanation or assume responsibility. Or the teen that suffered neurological complications after the first shot. And this is only about teens. The same goes for what some expecting mothers have experienced after getting vaccinated. Most of the time is classified as natural causes, if the person died, or prior health problems, or they simply “can’t find an answer”.
I feel that these experiences should also be mentioned just like any other experience. Regardless of how rare they can be, they happen. This experience right here on this thread that people are talking about is also rare. A relatively young, healthy man dies of covid, according to statistics is rare and yet there is article after article that’s talking about it. That selectiveness in the media only makes people more skeptic and pushes them even further from getting vaccinated.
Aren’t most, if not all, of those side effects mentioned above also potential consequences of getting COVID? With many people experiencing long term effects and possibly long term or permanent damage to organs from COVID, I’m curious whether these effects are more likely as a result of the vaccine or the virus. No one knows how the vaccine or the virus will affect us. It’s an individual risk/benefit analysis. What’s right for you may not be right for me. It’s one thing to make a personal decision for yourself or your family, but it’s dangerous to actively spread misinformation to others.
I wholeheartedly agree with u...it’s an individual decision based on a risk/benefit analysis. But after so much censorship, how can someone truly be able to do a full risk/benefit analysis when only one side of the story is told? It’d never be possible. Censorship has been happening for a while, years actually but never to the point that has been happening since covid. Literally every little thing that gets questioned, it’s automatically dismissed and labeled as a conspiracy theory. Someone said earlier -I believe in this thread- that she hasn’t met any doctor that advises against the vaccine (or at least gives ‘full’ informed consent). They exist, some very vocal and some not at all. The ones that opt to not be vocal is because there’s a lot on the line, their reputation, their license, their credibility, and not to be an alarmist but even their life can be in danger. Look at the “the disinformed dozen” that Biden is talking about. He’s putting a target on people’s backs. I know many of them and I can tell u they have dedicated years, and decades to their work, by providing alternative medicine to their patients and improving their health by the roots and not just putting a bandaid and treating their symptoms only. By bringing attention to the big problem that we’ve having of antibiotic overuse. By focusing on healthier living and how this can be achieved by improving our diets, environment, habits, etc. They have helped thousands and thousands of people over so many years so all that must mean something. But unfortunately they’re being silenced by force. I wish more people would realize what a huge red flag this is and what a massive slippery slope this is. I hope more people would question all of this because if something it’s being silent, it’s because there are some that don’t want it to exist for ulterior motives.
That's the problem they are pushing this vaccine so hard and to bring up a negative about it is not allowed. Even on this site trying to talk about it the posters in true liberal fashion start name calling which takes the thread in an unreadable direction.
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| Posted 8/6/21 6:39 AM |
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If only there were a way this could have been prevented
What word do you like better misinformation or disinformation? Seeing that a lot these days. I like both used with a /.
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| Posted 8/6/21 2:53 PM |
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klingklang77
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Re: If only there were a way this could have been prevented
Posted by Anotherplease
What word do you like better misinformation or disinformation? Seeing that a lot these days. I like both used with a /.
Interesting question of prefixes. Kind of like unorganized and disorganized. The latter is correct, btw.
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| Posted 8/6/21 5:45 PM |
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JennP
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Re: If only there were a way this could have been prevented
Posted by klingklang77
Posted by Anotherplease
What word do you like better misinformation or disinformation? Seeing that a lot these days. I like both used with a /.
Interesting question of prefixes. Kind of like unorganized and disorganized. The latter is correct, btw.
My understanding is that the difference is intent. Misinformation is more like human error - oops, didn't realize that wasn't true - while disinformation is spread either with the intent to deceive or without common sense source/fact checking to determine if it could be a falsehood. But I'm not an etymologist.
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| Posted 8/6/21 8:14 PM |
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klingklang77
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Re: If only there were a way this could have been prevented
Posted by JennP
Posted by klingklang77
Posted by Anotherplease
What word do you like better misinformation or disinformation? Seeing that a lot these days. I like both used with a /.
Interesting question of prefixes. Kind of like unorganized and disorganized. The latter is correct, btw.
My understanding is that the difference is intent. Misinformation is more like human error - oops, didn't realize that wasn't true - while disinformation is spread either with the intent to deceive or without common sense source/fact checking to determine if it could be a falsehood. But I'm not an etymologist.
Sorry, should have explained better. Grammar books technically say “disorganized” is correct. But both are acceptable nowadays. I probably used a bad example. Sorry, long day.
But you are correct with regards to your explanation. I’m not an etymologist either. Just simply interested in it and did a few classes which are totally useless nowadays,  .
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