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Re: Fully vaccinated people can gather without masks, CDC says
Posted by BFNY516
This thread made me recall that I was reading something that said that employers may mandate vaccines for employees who are returning to work. It sounds like there are ways around it… Like if you decline, then you’d have to work from home. But essentially, employers can require it.
It’ll be interesting to see how that plays out in the various industries.
Given the fact that this was a worldwide pandemic that was seemingly almost impossible to get under control, I'd be surprised if proof of vaccination wasn't mandated, even globally especially with regards to travel. This virus spread due to travel in and out of other countries. I am sure those countries who fared really well throughout the pandemic will look to put policies in place to keep their citizens healthy and safe going forward.
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Re: Fully vaccinated people can gather without masks, CDC says
Posted by KarenK122
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Posted by Hofstra26
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Posted by beachbabe
Posted by Hofstra26
Quite honestly, and this is just my opinion, I really wouldn't have a problem with being required to show vaccination papers for certain things until we know for sure the pandemic is behind us. If you don't like it, get vaccinated or forgo large public gatherings like concerts where your unvaccinated self would present a possible risk to others.
I agree with this
I would have a major problem with that, even if I did get vaccinated.
We are allowing others to control everything about our lives and now our bodies.
What happened to my body, my choice? Is that only for some things?
It's a global pandemic, sometimes strict public health measures need to be taken. If you're vaccinated, this really shouldn't bother anyone.
Again that is why we have Hippa laws to protect us. You are basically throwing that all out the window.
Didn't you say in a previous thread that you would have no problem getting tested prior to go to an event? You would have to show that you took the test so how is this different. The beauty of this country is that everyone has a choice. You can take the vaccine or not take the vaccine. You can show your vac card or not show it. That is all up to you. Places, venues and other people also have choices and if they choose not have unvaccinated people at their places/events, then they have that right.
It’s a test not a vaccine, just like I don’t have to show I have had any other vaccine unless I have had to have for school.
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Re: Fully vaccinated people can gather without masks, CDC says
Posted by Hofstra26
Posted by Valentinesbaby73
Posted by Hofstra26
Posted by Valentinesbaby73
Posted by beachbabe
Posted by Hofstra26
Quite honestly, and this is just my opinion, I really wouldn't have a problem with being required to show vaccination papers for certain things until we know for sure the pandemic is behind us. If you don't like it, get vaccinated or forgo large public gatherings like concerts where your unvaccinated self would present a possible risk to others.
I agree with this
I would have a major problem with that, even if I did get vaccinated.
We are allowing others to control everything about our lives and now our bodies.
What happened to my body, my choice? Is that only for some things?
It's a global pandemic, sometimes strict public health measures need to be taken. If you're vaccinated, this really shouldn't bother anyone.
Again that is why we have Hippa laws to protect us. You are basically throwing that all out the window.
No, you wouldn't be throwing anything out of the window. Your full medical history would not be available to all, just proof of the vaccine which everyone who has received it now has. Like I said, if it kept the majority safer and helped push the pandemic to its end then I am all in.
You know how you keep telling everyone to stay home so you can live your best life? Well maybe if you don't want to be vaccinated you should just "stay home" or at the very least avoid large public gatherings for the safety of others. Unvaccinated individuals will pose a greater threat to everyone.
Or so you assume as the CDC doesn’t even know how long the vaccine lasts or if will help in not getting the virus.
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Re: Fully vaccinated people can gather without masks, CDC says
Posted by BFNY516
This thread made me recall that I was reading something that said that employers may mandate vaccines for employees who are returning to work. It sounds like there are ways around it… Like if you decline, then you’d have to work from home. But essentially, employers can require it.
It’ll be interesting to see how that plays out in the various industries.
Well 1 out of 4 workers will probably be requesting to work from home.
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BFNY516
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Re: Fully vaccinated people can gather without masks, CDC says
Posted by Valentinesbaby73
Posted by BFNY516
This thread made me recall that I was reading something that said that employers may mandate vaccines for employees who are returning to work. It sounds like there are ways around it… Like if you decline, then you’d have to work from home. But essentially, employers can require it.
It’ll be interesting to see how that plays out in the various industries.
Well 1 out of 4 workers will probably be requesting to work from home.
I wonder how that will work if it’s a job position that doesn’t translate to working from home.
Can anyone who works in HR weigh in on any directives on this?
If you choose not to get the vaccine, will you be told you have to wear a mask at work?
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Re: Fully vaccinated people can gather without masks, CDC says
Posted by Valentinesbaby73
Posted by Hofstra26
Posted by Valentinesbaby73
Posted by Hofstra26
Posted by Valentinesbaby73
Posted by beachbabe
Posted by Hofstra26
Quite honestly, and this is just my opinion, I really wouldn't have a problem with being required to show vaccination papers for certain things until we know for sure the pandemic is behind us. If you don't like it, get vaccinated or forgo large public gatherings like concerts where your unvaccinated self would present a possible risk to others.
I agree with this
I would have a major problem with that, even if I did get vaccinated.
We are allowing others to control everything about our lives and now our bodies.
What happened to my body, my choice? Is that only for some things?
It's a global pandemic, sometimes strict public health measures need to be taken. If you're vaccinated, this really shouldn't bother anyone.
Again that is why we have Hippa laws to protect us. You are basically throwing that all out the window.
No, you wouldn't be throwing anything out of the window. Your full medical history would not be available to all, just proof of the vaccine which everyone who has received it now has. Like I said, if it kept the majority safer and helped push the pandemic to its end then I am all in.
You know how you keep telling everyone to stay home so you can live your best life? Well maybe if you don't want to be vaccinated you should just "stay home" or at the very least avoid large public gatherings for the safety of others. Unvaccinated individuals will pose a greater threat to everyone.
Or so you assume as the CDC doesn’t even know how long the vaccine lasts or if will help in not getting the virus.
What does that matter? The flu vaccine only lasts a year but it doesn't mean it's not effective. There is nothing unusual about needing a vaccine every year as is the case with flu. The FACT is, the vaccine is proving to be upwards of 95% effective. I like those odds WAY better over 0% protection.
From article - "What the 95% actually means is that vaccinated people had a 95% lower risk of getting COVID-19 compared with the control group participants, who weren't vaccinated."
COVID Vaccine Efficacy Explained
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Re: Fully vaccinated people can gather without masks, CDC says
Posted by Hofstra26
Posted by Valentinesbaby73
Posted by Hofstra26
Posted by Valentinesbaby73
Posted by beachbabe
Posted by Hofstra26
Quite honestly, and this is just my opinion, I really wouldn't have a problem with being required to show vaccination papers for certain things until we know for sure the pandemic is behind us. If you don't like it, get vaccinated or forgo large public gatherings like concerts where your unvaccinated self would present a possible risk to others.
I agree with this
I would have a major problem with that, even if I did get vaccinated.
We are allowing others to control everything about our lives and now our bodies.
What happened to my body, my choice? Is that only for some things?
It's a global pandemic, sometimes strict public health measures need to be taken. If you're vaccinated, this really shouldn't bother anyone.
Again that is why we have Hippa laws to protect us. You are basically throwing that all out the window.
No, you wouldn't be throwing anything out of the window. Your full medical history would not be available to all, just proof of the vaccine which everyone who has received it now has. Like I said, if it kept the majority safer and helped push the pandemic to its end then I am all in.
You know how you keep telling everyone to stay home so you can live your best life? Well maybe if you don't want to be vaccinated you should just "stay home" or at the very least avoid large public gatherings for the safety of others. Unvaccinated individuals will pose a greater threat to everyone.
And if anyone feels fine disclosing medical history like vaccinations to whoever they want, then good for u, I’m happy for u but there are people who just do not feel comfortable doing that and it should also be fine for them too, and it should not cause them to not being allowed to do things. I was afraid this was gonna happen and that this whole thing was gonna further cause a bigger division among the vaccinated and the unvaccinated, with the unvaccinated always being blamed for everything when in reality this issue is not as black and white as it’s being made to be.
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Hofstra26
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Re: Fully vaccinated people can gather without masks, CDC says
Posted by Valentinesbaby73
Posted by BFNY516
This thread made me recall that I was reading something that said that employers may mandate vaccines for employees who are returning to work. It sounds like there are ways around it… Like if you decline, then you’d have to work from home. But essentially, employers can require it.
It’ll be interesting to see how that plays out in the various industries.
Well 1 out of 4 workers will probably be requesting to work from home.
Where are you getting your stats? You love to mention OVER and OVER again that 1 out of 4 people won't get the vaccine but every time I look into that stat it specifically refers to Republicans. 1in 4 REPUBLICANS won't take the vaccine, not general population. If that figure is true it would come as no surprise seeing as how Republicans were also the ones who denied the virus and never had an interest in taking safety measures the last year. I think you need to stop quoting this figure as it is not accurate, at least from what I am seeing.
1 in 4 Repulicans Won't Take Vaccine
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Re: Fully vaccinated people can gather without masks, CDC says
Posted by Hofstra26
Posted by Valentinesbaby73
Posted by Hofstra26
Posted by Valentinesbaby73
Posted by Hofstra26
Posted by Valentinesbaby73
Posted by beachbabe
Posted by Hofstra26
Quite honestly, and this is just my opinion, I really wouldn't have a problem with being required to show vaccination papers for certain things until we know for sure the pandemic is behind us. If you don't like it, get vaccinated or forgo large public gatherings like concerts where your unvaccinated self would present a possible risk to others.
I agree with this
I would have a major problem with that, even if I did get vaccinated.
We are allowing others to control everything about our lives and now our bodies.
What happened to my body, my choice? Is that only for some things?
It's a global pandemic, sometimes strict public health measures need to be taken. If you're vaccinated, this really shouldn't bother anyone.
Again that is why we have Hippa laws to protect us. You are basically throwing that all out the window.
No, you wouldn't be throwing anything out of the window. Your full medical history would not be available to all, just proof of the vaccine which everyone who has received it now has. Like I said, if it kept the majority safer and helped push the pandemic to its end then I am all in.
You know how you keep telling everyone to stay home so you can live your best life? Well maybe if you don't want to be vaccinated you should just "stay home" or at the very least avoid large public gatherings for the safety of others. Unvaccinated individuals will pose a greater threat to everyone.
Or so you assume as the CDC doesn’t even know how long the vaccine lasts or if will help in not getting the virus.
What does that matter? The flu vaccine only lasts a year but it doesn't mean it's not effective. There is nothing unusual about needing a vaccine every year as is the case with flu. The FACT is, the vaccine is proving to be upwards of 95% effective. I like those odds WAY better over 0% protection.
From article - "What the 95% actually means is that vaccinated people had a 95% lower risk of getting COVID-19 compared with the control group participants, who weren't vaccinated."
COVID Vaccine Efficacy Explained
It matters because how often will you have to go back and get a vaccine and have to wait so might miss out on events and outings?
Links mean nothing until it is tested out and have a majority of people not getting sick and see how long it keeps them from getting sick.
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Re: Fully vaccinated people can gather without masks, CDC says
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HIPAA laws don't apply to stores and other non-medical venues.
https://www.wsj.com/articles/hipaa-wont-stop-stores-asking-about-your-health-11592152890
A June 3 letter suggests that conditioning access to shops or malls on presenting negative Covid-19 results is somehow a violation of the privacy provisions of the Health Insurance Portability and Accountability Act of 1996, commonly known as HIPAA. This is legally incorrect. HIPAA only applies to “covered entities,” which consist of certain health-care providers, health plans (e.g., health insurers, Medicare) and health-care clearinghouses. HIPAA also applies to a covered entity’s business associates, e.g., those providing certain services to the covered entity. It does not apply to individuals, who are always free to reveal to anyone their health information, nor does it prevent a store owner, nursing home, theme park or restaurateur from requesting Covid-19 information as a condition of admission. Other laws, however, may come into play here, but not HIPAA.
Robert Charrow
General Counsel
U.S. Department of Health and Human Services
That's from the head lawyer from HHS.
HIPAA protects you a lot less than some people think.
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Re: Fully vaccinated people can gather without masks, CDC says
Posted by soontobemommyof2
Posted by Hofstra26
Posted by Valentinesbaby73
Posted by Hofstra26
Posted by Valentinesbaby73
Posted by beachbabe
Posted by Hofstra26
Quite honestly, and this is just my opinion, I really wouldn't have a problem with being required to show vaccination papers for certain things until we know for sure the pandemic is behind us. If you don't like it, get vaccinated or forgo large public gatherings like concerts where your unvaccinated self would present a possible risk to others.
I agree with this
I would have a major problem with that, even if I did get vaccinated.
We are allowing others to control everything about our lives and now our bodies.
What happened to my body, my choice? Is that only for some things?
It's a global pandemic, sometimes strict public health measures need to be taken. If you're vaccinated, this really shouldn't bother anyone.
Again that is why we have Hippa laws to protect us. You are basically throwing that all out the window.
No, you wouldn't be throwing anything out of the window. Your full medical history would not be available to all, just proof of the vaccine which everyone who has received it now has. Like I said, if it kept the majority safer and helped push the pandemic to its end then I am all in.
You know how you keep telling everyone to stay home so you can live your best life? Well maybe if you don't want to be vaccinated you should just "stay home" or at the very least avoid large public gatherings for the safety of others. Unvaccinated individuals will pose a greater threat to everyone.
And if anyone feels fine disclosing medical history like vaccinations to whoever they want, then good for u, I’m happy for u but there are people who just do not feel comfortable doing that and it should also be fine for them too, and it should not cause them to not being allowed to do things. I was afraid this was gonna happen and that this whole thing was gonna further cause a bigger division among the vaccinated and the unvaccinated, with the unvaccinated always being blamed for everything when in reality this issue is not as black and white as it’s being made to be.
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Hofstra26
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Re: Fully vaccinated people can gather without masks, CDC says
Posted by soontobemommyof2
Posted by Hofstra26
Posted by Valentinesbaby73
Posted by Hofstra26
Posted by Valentinesbaby73
Posted by beachbabe
Posted by Hofstra26
Quite honestly, and this is just my opinion, I really wouldn't have a problem with being required to show vaccination papers for certain things until we know for sure the pandemic is behind us. If you don't like it, get vaccinated or forgo large public gatherings like concerts where your unvaccinated self would present a possible risk to others.
I agree with this
I would have a major problem with that, even if I did get vaccinated.
We are allowing others to control everything about our lives and now our bodies.
What happened to my body, my choice? Is that only for some things?
It's a global pandemic, sometimes strict public health measures need to be taken. If you're vaccinated, this really shouldn't bother anyone.
Again that is why we have Hippa laws to protect us. You are basically throwing that all out the window.
No, you wouldn't be throwing anything out of the window. Your full medical history would not be available to all, just proof of the vaccine which everyone who has received it now has. Like I said, if it kept the majority safer and helped push the pandemic to its end then I am all in.
You know how you keep telling everyone to stay home so you can live your best life? Well maybe if you don't want to be vaccinated you should just "stay home" or at the very least avoid large public gatherings for the safety of others. Unvaccinated individuals will pose a greater threat to everyone.
And if anyone feels fine disclosing medical history like vaccinations to whoever they want, then good for u, I’m happy for u but there are people who just do not feel comfortable doing that and it should also be fine for them too, and it should not cause them to not being allowed to do things. I was afraid this was gonna happen and that this whole thing was gonna further cause a bigger division among the vaccinated and the unvaccinated, with the unvaccinated always being blamed for everything when in reality this issue is not as black and white as it’s being made to be.
Nobody is "blaming" unvaccinated people but it's a little silly to pretend like those who won't be vaccinated against this virus don't pose a greater risk to others.
All I am saying is, given the worldwide spread of COVID and the way it crippled us globally, it would not shock me if for large gatherings such as a concert, proof of vaccination wasn't required. We shall see.
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Re: Fully vaccinated people can gather without masks, CDC says
Posted by Hofstra26
Posted by Valentinesbaby73
Posted by BFNY516
This thread made me recall that I was reading something that said that employers may mandate vaccines for employees who are returning to work. It sounds like there are ways around it… Like if you decline, then you’d have to work from home. But essentially, employers can require it.
It’ll be interesting to see how that plays out in the various industries.
Well 1 out of 4 workers will probably be requesting to work from home.
Where are you getting your stats? You love to mention OVER and OVER again that 1 out of 4 people won't get the vaccine but every time I look into that stat it specifically refers to Republicans. 1in 4 REPUBLICANS won't take the vaccine, not general population. If that figure is true it would come as no surprise seeing as how Republicans were also the ones who denied the virus and never had an interest in taking safety measures the last year. I think you need to stop quoting this figure as it is not accurate, at least from what I am seeing.
1 in 4 Repulicans Won't Take Vaccine
I saw it originally on News12 but these other news sources have the same story, which can be googled:
Monmouth.edu
NY Post
Forbes
Wnstv
Oregon Live
USA News
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Hofstra26
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Re: Fully vaccinated people can gather without masks, CDC says
Posted by Valentinesbaby73
Posted by Hofstra26
Posted by Valentinesbaby73
Posted by Hofstra26
Posted by Valentinesbaby73
Posted by Hofstra26
Posted by Valentinesbaby73
Posted by beachbabe
Posted by Hofstra26
Quite honestly, and this is just my opinion, I really wouldn't have a problem with being required to show vaccination papers for certain things until we know for sure the pandemic is behind us. If you don't like it, get vaccinated or forgo large public gatherings like concerts where your unvaccinated self would present a possible risk to others.
I agree with this
I would have a major problem with that, even if I did get vaccinated.
We are allowing others to control everything about our lives and now our bodies.
What happened to my body, my choice? Is that only for some things?
It's a global pandemic, sometimes strict public health measures need to be taken. If you're vaccinated, this really shouldn't bother anyone.
Again that is why we have Hippa laws to protect us. You are basically throwing that all out the window.
No, you wouldn't be throwing anything out of the window. Your full medical history would not be available to all, just proof of the vaccine which everyone who has received it now has. Like I said, if it kept the majority safer and helped push the pandemic to its end then I am all in.
You know how you keep telling everyone to stay home so you can live your best life? Well maybe if you don't want to be vaccinated you should just "stay home" or at the very least avoid large public gatherings for the safety of others. Unvaccinated individuals will pose a greater threat to everyone.
Or so you assume as the CDC doesn’t even know how long the vaccine lasts or if will help in not getting the virus.
What does that matter? The flu vaccine only lasts a year but it doesn't mean it's not effective. There is nothing unusual about needing a vaccine every year as is the case with flu. The FACT is, the vaccine is proving to be upwards of 95% effective. I like those odds WAY better over 0% protection.
From article - "What the 95% actually means is that vaccinated people had a 95% lower risk of getting COVID-19 compared with the control group participants, who weren't vaccinated."
COVID Vaccine Efficacy Explained
It matters because how often will you have to go back and get a vaccine and have to wait so might miss out on events and outings?
Links mean nothing until it is tested out and have a majority of people not getting sick and see how long it keeps them from getting sick.
It has been tested but you keep doing your very to ignore the science. It works. That is what 95% efficacy means. To reiterate, 95% is better than the 0% you will have because you refuse the shot.
Your logic makes zero sense. You're essentially saying, "I know I can protect myself against COVID with 95% efficacy right now but since I don't know if it'll last months or years I'd rather do nothing and have 0% protection".
Good luck to you.
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Re: Fully vaccinated people can gather without masks, CDC says
Posted by Valentinesbaby73
Posted by Hofstra26
Posted by Valentinesbaby73
Posted by BFNY516
This thread made me recall that I was reading something that said that employers may mandate vaccines for employees who are returning to work. It sounds like there are ways around it… Like if you decline, then you’d have to work from home. But essentially, employers can require it.
It’ll be interesting to see how that plays out in the various industries.
Well 1 out of 4 workers will probably be requesting to work from home.
Where are you getting your stats? You love to mention OVER and OVER again that 1 out of 4 people won't get the vaccine but every time I look into that stat it specifically refers to Republicans. 1in 4 REPUBLICANS won't take the vaccine, not general population. If that figure is true it would come as no surprise seeing as how Republicans were also the ones who denied the virus and never had an interest in taking safety measures the last year. I think you need to stop quoting this figure as it is not accurate, at least from what I am seeing.
1 in 4 Repulicans Won't Take Vaccine
I saw it originally on News12 but these other news sources have the same story, which can be googled:
Monmouth.edu
NY Post
Forbes
Wnstv
Oregon Live
USA News
Post links.
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Re: Fully vaccinated people can gather without masks, CDC says
Posted by BFNY516
This thread made me recall that I was reading something that said that employers may mandate vaccines for employees who are returning to work. It sounds like there are ways around it… Like if you decline, then you’d have to work from home. But essentially, employers can require it.
It’ll be interesting to see how that plays out in the various industries.
Someone asked about this on a company call last week and HR and the legal team almost had a heart attack saying they cannot mandate vaccines for us to return to work as there would be many legal ramifications and it could lead to lawsuits. They were uncomfortable even talking about it. They said they definitely would not be doing it.
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Re: Fully vaccinated people can gather without masks, CDC says
Posted by NervousNell
Posted by Sash
Thank God for the CDC or else I wouldn’t know how to live my life.
Yes. Did you know that you should wash your hands? I did not until they told me how important it is!!
I also anxiously await their recommendation for what I can do this summer. I'd like to make plans.
You left out "with hot water." You're welcome.
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Re: Fully vaccinated people can gather without masks, CDC says
Posted by Hofstra26
Posted by Valentinesbaby73
Posted by Hofstra26
Posted by Valentinesbaby73
Posted by BFNY516
This thread made me recall that I was reading something that said that employers may mandate vaccines for employees who are returning to work. It sounds like there are ways around it… Like if you decline, then you’d have to work from home. But essentially, employers can require it.
It’ll be interesting to see how that plays out in the various industries.
Well 1 out of 4 workers will probably be requesting to work from home.
Where are you getting your stats? You love to mention OVER and OVER again that 1 out of 4 people won't get the vaccine but every time I look into that stat it specifically refers to Republicans. 1in 4 REPUBLICANS won't take the vaccine, not general population. If that figure is true it would come as no surprise seeing as how Republicans were also the ones who denied the virus and never had an interest in taking safety measures the last year. I think you need to stop quoting this figure as it is not accurate, at least from what I am seeing.
1 in 4 Repulicans Won't Take Vaccine
I saw it originally on News12 but these other news sources have the same story, which can be googled:
Monmouth.edu
NY Post
Forbes
Wnstv
Oregon Live
USA News
Post links.
 :rolleyes
I am sure you can google as well as I can
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Re: Fully vaccinated people can gather without masks, CDC says
Posted by beachbabe
Posted by Hofstra26
Quite honestly, and this is just my opinion, I really wouldn't have a problem with being required to show vaccination papers for certain things until we know for sure the pandemic is behind us. If you don't like it, get vaccinated or forgo large public gatherings like concerts where your unvaccinated self would present a possible risk to others.
I agree with this
But what about people who can't receive the vaccine for health reasons? I have a friend who suffers from guillain barre syndrome and is not able to take vaccines without serious risk of relapse. Do we make exceptions for people like her or is she just SOL, she can no longer travel, attend concerts, etc?
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Re: Fully vaccinated people can gather without masks, CDC says
Posted by Hofstra26
Posted by soontobemommyof2
Posted by Hofstra26
Posted by Valentinesbaby73
Posted by Hofstra26
Posted by Valentinesbaby73
Posted by beachbabe
Posted by Hofstra26
Quite honestly, and this is just my opinion, I really wouldn't have a problem with being required to show vaccination papers for certain things until we know for sure the pandemic is behind us. If you don't like it, get vaccinated or forgo large public gatherings like concerts where your unvaccinated self would present a possible risk to others.
I agree with this
I would have a major problem with that, even if I did get vaccinated.
We are allowing others to control everything about our lives and now our bodies.
What happened to my body, my choice? Is that only for some things?
It's a global pandemic, sometimes strict public health measures need to be taken. If you're vaccinated, this really shouldn't bother anyone.
Again that is why we have Hippa laws to protect us. You are basically throwing that all out the window.
No, you wouldn't be throwing anything out of the window. Your full medical history would not be available to all, just proof of the vaccine which everyone who has received it now has. Like I said, if it kept the majority safer and helped push the pandemic to its end then I am all in.
You know how you keep telling everyone to stay home so you can live your best life? Well maybe if you don't want to be vaccinated you should just "stay home" or at the very least avoid large public gatherings for the safety of others. Unvaccinated individuals will pose a greater threat to everyone.
And if anyone feels fine disclosing medical history like vaccinations to whoever they want, then good for u, I’m happy for u but there are people who just do not feel comfortable doing that and it should also be fine for them too, and it should not cause them to not being allowed to do things. I was afraid this was gonna happen and that this whole thing was gonna further cause a bigger division among the vaccinated and the unvaccinated, with the unvaccinated always being blamed for everything when in reality this issue is not as black and white as it’s being made to be.
Nobody is "blaming" unvaccinated people but it's a little silly to pretend like those who won't be vaccinated against this virus don't pose a greater risk to others.
All I am saying is, given the worldwide spread of COVID and the way it crippled us globally, it would not shock me if for large gatherings such as a concert, proof of vaccination wasn't required. We shall see.
If you are vaccinated you need not worry about others who are not since you say it is 95% effective.
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Re: Fully vaccinated people can gather without masks, CDC says
Posted by lululu
Posted by beachbabe
Posted by Hofstra26
Quite honestly, and this is just my opinion, I really wouldn't have a problem with being required to show vaccination papers for certain things until we know for sure the pandemic is behind us. If you don't like it, get vaccinated or forgo large public gatherings like concerts where your unvaccinated self would present a possible risk to others.
I agree with this
But what about people who can't receive the vaccine for health reasons? I have a friend who suffers from guillain barre syndrome and is not able to take vaccines without serious risk of relapse. Do we make exceptions for people like her or is she just SOL, she can no longer travel, attend concerts, etc?
Good question
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Naturalmama
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Re: Fully vaccinated people can gather without masks, CDC says
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Posted by Naturalmama
My assumption is you wouldn't be gathering in someone's home in a small group with a bunch of strangers. I have friends and family members that are fully vaccinated and we will start seeing each other in small groups unmasked. They told me they got vaccinated. If one of my friends didn't want to tell me if they got the vaccine or not, I would treat them as they hadn't been and still only see them outdoors with a mask.
Wow really? Do they have to tell you who they voted for too and maybe hoe much they weigh?
Sorry but no one needs to tell you something private like that and if you are at the point you are still afraid to see people, then stay home.
Yes, really. I am not afraid to see people. I would still see them, outdoors with a mask.
EVERY person I am friends with has spoken about vaccines. I know exactly who is fully vaccinated. I never asked anyone to tell me, they told me on their own. But everyone I am close with is getting the vaccine. I don't know any of those "1 in 4".
This weekend, my best friend and I will be seeing each other in person for the first time since February 2020. She had her daughter in July and I will finally be able to meet her and hold her.
You know, you spend an awful lot of time telling people who are scared to say home. But if someone tells you if you don't take the vaccine stay home, you flip a shit.
Vaccines are not covered under HIPPA. They aren't asking you if you have diabetes or if you ever had cancer. If you read the law, it says medical information can be disclosed without the individual's permission if it pertains to public health.
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| Posted 3/7/21 7:40 PM |
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Re: Fully vaccinated people can gather without masks, CDC says
Posted by Hofstra26
Posted by Valentinesbaby73
Posted by Hofstra26
Posted by Valentinesbaby73
Posted by BFNY516
This thread made me recall that I was reading something that said that employers may mandate vaccines for employees who are returning to work. It sounds like there are ways around it… Like if you decline, then you’d have to work from home. But essentially, employers can require it.
It’ll be interesting to see how that plays out in the various industries.
Well 1 out of 4 workers will probably be requesting to work from home.
Where are you getting your stats? You love to mention OVER and OVER again that 1 out of 4 people won't get the vaccine but every time I look into that stat it specifically refers to Republicans. 1in 4 REPUBLICANS won't take the vaccine, not general population. If that figure is true it would come as no surprise seeing as how Republicans were also the ones who denied the virus and never had an interest in taking safety measures the last year. I think you need to stop quoting this figure as it is not accurate, at least from what I am seeing.
1 in 4 Repulicans Won't Take Vaccine
I saw it originally on News12 but these other news sources have the same story, which can be googled:
Monmouth.edu
NY Post
Forbes
Wnstv
Oregon Live
USA News
Post links.
I don't have a link but actually right before the vaccine rollout began they polled NYFD and only half said they would be willing to take the vaccine. This was on the Today show. My source for all factual information.
Actually here's the link
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| Posted 3/7/21 7:41 PM |
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Hofstra26
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Re: Fully vaccinated people can gather without masks, CDC says
Posted by Valentinesbaby73
Posted by Hofstra26
Posted by soontobemommyof2
Posted by Hofstra26
Posted by Valentinesbaby73
Posted by Hofstra26
Posted by Valentinesbaby73
Posted by beachbabe
Posted by Hofstra26
Quite honestly, and this is just my opinion, I really wouldn't have a problem with being required to show vaccination papers for certain things until we know for sure the pandemic is behind us. If you don't like it, get vaccinated or forgo large public gatherings like concerts where your unvaccinated self would present a possible risk to others.
I agree with this
I would have a major problem with that, even if I did get vaccinated.
We are allowing others to control everything about our lives and now our bodies.
What happened to my body, my choice? Is that only for some things?
It's a global pandemic, sometimes strict public health measures need to be taken. If you're vaccinated, this really shouldn't bother anyone.
Again that is why we have Hippa laws to protect us. You are basically throwing that all out the window.
No, you wouldn't be throwing anything out of the window. Your full medical history would not be available to all, just proof of the vaccine which everyone who has received it now has. Like I said, if it kept the majority safer and helped push the pandemic to its end then I am all in.
You know how you keep telling everyone to stay home so you can live your best life? Well maybe if you don't want to be vaccinated you should just "stay home" or at the very least avoid large public gatherings for the safety of others. Unvaccinated individuals will pose a greater threat to everyone.
And if anyone feels fine disclosing medical history like vaccinations to whoever they want, then good for u, I’m happy for u but there are people who just do not feel comfortable doing that and it should also be fine for them too, and it should not cause them to not being allowed to do things. I was afraid this was gonna happen and that this whole thing was gonna further cause a bigger division among the vaccinated and the unvaccinated, with the unvaccinated always being blamed for everything when in reality this issue is not as black and white as it’s being made to be.
Nobody is "blaming" unvaccinated people but it's a little silly to pretend like those who won't be vaccinated against this virus don't pose a greater risk to others.
All I am saying is, given the worldwide spread of COVID and the way it crippled us globally, it would not shock me if for large gatherings such as a concert, proof of vaccination wasn't required. We shall see.
If you are vaccinated you need not worry about others who are not since you say it is 95% effective.
I really feel like you need to better educate yourself on vaccines. I don't get the sense that you really know what you're talking about.
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Re: Fully vaccinated people can gather without masks, CDC says
Posted by Naturalmama
Posted by Valentinesbaby73
Posted by Naturalmama
My assumption is you wouldn't be gathering in someone's home in a small group with a bunch of strangers. I have friends and family members that are fully vaccinated and we will start seeing each other in small groups unmasked. They told me they got vaccinated. If one of my friends didn't want to tell me if they got the vaccine or not, I would treat them as they hadn't been and still only see them outdoors with a mask.
Wow really? Do they have to tell you who they voted for too and maybe hoe much they weigh?
Sorry but no one needs to tell you something private like that and if you are at the point you are still afraid to see people, then stay home.
Yes, really. I am not afraid to see people. I would still see them, outdoors with a mask.
EVERY person I am friends with has spoken about vaccines. I know exactly who is fully vaccinated. I never asked anyone to tell me, they told me on their own. But everyone I am close with is getting the vaccine. I don't know any of those "1 in 4".
This weekend, my best friend and I will be seeing each other in person for the first time since February 2020. She had her daughter in July and I will finally be able to meet her and hold her.
You know, you spend an awful lot of time telling people who are scared to say home. But if someone tells you if you don't take the vaccine stay home, you flip a shit.
Vaccines are not covered under HIPPA. They aren't asking you if you have diabetes or if you ever had cancer. If you read the law, it says medical information can be disclosed without the individual's permission if it pertains to public health.
Well we are 4/4 in my house alone so you are ahead there :)
Will you be wearing a mask when seeing your friend?
I don’t believe anyone should stay home but just like life before you have a choice to do things or stay home. Some are more anxious about things that others are not.
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