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Re: Fully vaccinated people can gather without masks, CDC says
Posted by lululu
Posted by Hofstra26
Posted by PhyllisNJoe
Posted by lululu
Posted by beachbabe
Posted by Hofstra26
Quite honestly, and this is just my opinion, I really wouldn't have a problem with being required to show vaccination papers for certain things until we know for sure the pandemic is behind us. If you don't like it, get vaccinated or forgo large public gatherings like concerts where your unvaccinated self would present a possible risk to others.
I agree with this
But what about people who can't receive the vaccine for health reasons? I have a friend who suffers from guillain barre syndrome and is not able to take vaccines without serious risk of relapse. Do we make exceptions for people like her or is she just SOL, she can no longer travel, attend concerts, etc?
My friend with GBS was one of the first people I know who was vaccinated. His dr told him Pfizer only and he was watched a little closer to side effects. He was fine and is fully vaccinated now. Having GBS puts you in greater risk if you get Covid. Worse than side effects from the vaccine. I would encourage your friend to be sure about the consequence of not getting vaccinated
I second this.
I have thyroid issues but my endo still recommended I get the vaccine. I think many drs fear the risks of COVID when you have underlying issues is worse than the vaccine risks. That's been my experience thus far with all of my doctors. I would definitely encourage anyone with underlying issues to speak with their doctor to be on the safe side.
My friend who has GBS is married to a very successful surgeon and her brother is also an MD as well. She has been advised by multiple doctors not to get any vaccines. They also advise her not to get the flu shot. I am fairly certain she is getting better advice from her husband, her brother as well as the doctors who have been treating her GBS for years. Thyroid issues are very different than GBS.
You missed my point. The point I was making is that anyone with underlying issues should speak with their drs before making any decisions about the vaccine, one way or the other.
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Re: Fully vaccinated people can gather without masks, CDC says
Posted by Hofstra26
Posted by lululu
Posted by Hofstra26
Posted by PhyllisNJoe
Posted by lululu
Posted by beachbabe
Posted by Hofstra26
Quite honestly, and this is just my opinion, I really wouldn't have a problem with being required to show vaccination papers for certain things until we know for sure the pandemic is behind us. If you don't like it, get vaccinated or forgo large public gatherings like concerts where your unvaccinated self would present a possible risk to others.
I agree with this
But what about people who can't receive the vaccine for health reasons? I have a friend who suffers from guillain barre syndrome and is not able to take vaccines without serious risk of relapse. Do we make exceptions for people like her or is she just SOL, she can no longer travel, attend concerts, etc?
My friend with GBS was one of the first people I know who was vaccinated. His dr told him Pfizer only and he was watched a little closer to side effects. He was fine and is fully vaccinated now. Having GBS puts you in greater risk if you get Covid. Worse than side effects from the vaccine. I would encourage your friend to be sure about the consequence of not getting vaccinated
I second this.
I have thyroid issues but my endo still recommended I get the vaccine. I think many drs fear the risks of COVID when you have underlying issues is worse than the vaccine risks. That's been my experience thus far with all of my doctors. I would definitely encourage anyone with underlying issues to speak with their doctor to be on the safe side.
My friend who has GBS is married to a very successful surgeon and her brother is also an MD as well. She has been advised by multiple doctors not to get any vaccines. They also advise her not to get the flu shot. I am fairly certain she is getting better advice from her husband, her brother as well as the doctors who have been treating her GBS for years. Thyroid issues are very different than GBS.
You missed my point. The point I was making is that anyone with underlying issues should speak with their drs before making any decisions about the vaccine, one way or the other.
If your friend trusts her drs and husband opinion then that’s exactly what she should do
Just thought I’d mention My friend with GBS, who was on life support from
His reaction to an antibiotic 3 years ago. His drs were adminent about him getting the vaccine and only Pfizer based on his illness. Maybe those with GBS have different versions, with different triggers?
Probably.
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Re: Fully vaccinated people can gather without masks, CDC says
Posted by GoldenRod
Posted by Valentinesbaby73
Posted by soontobemommyof2
Posted by tourist
Posted by NervousNell
I am still not even close to being eligible for a vaccine nor is my husband. I am amazed that whole extended families are already almost fully vaccinated. Is everyone essential workers/teachers etc? Or does everyone in the world have comorbidities? I feel like nobody I know is vaccinated other than my parents because they are over 75.
My husband's side is all vaccinated. He has a small family, and the only local relatives are over 65 & he works in healthcare. They don't seem to get the fact that I am not eligible.
I have seen them without masks before anyone was vaccinated but now that they are out & about more, I am hesitant about see them for Easter.
I have seen a few younger non teachers post that they got vaccinated, I assume they have conditions on the list. A lot of the conditions are fairly common, asthma, high blood pressure, obesity, and pregnancy.
Also, a lot of my friends are in NYC, and there are more spots there now.
Is pregnancy one of the conditions that would allow soemone to get the vaccine??  . Wow, I’m asking cause these pharmaceutical companies do not have data that would allow them to determine the safety of the vaccine for this subpopulation.
The CDC does not recommend it.
Not true.
https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/vaccines/recommendations/pregnancy.html
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People who are pregnant and part of a group recommended to receive the COVID-19 vaccine may choose to be vaccinated. If they have questions about getting vaccinated, a discussion with a healthcare provider might help them make an informed decision.
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They don't have enough data to recommend it, but they are definitely not "not recommending" it.
Soooo you would be fine with that advice?
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lululu
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Re: Fully vaccinated people can gather without masks, CDC says
Posted by Hofstra26
Posted by lululu
Posted by Hofstra26
Posted by PhyllisNJoe
Posted by lululu
Posted by beachbabe
Posted by Hofstra26
Quite honestly, and this is just my opinion, I really wouldn't have a problem with being required to show vaccination papers for certain things until we know for sure the pandemic is behind us. If you don't like it, get vaccinated or forgo large public gatherings like concerts where your unvaccinated self would present a possible risk to others.
I agree with this
But what about people who can't receive the vaccine for health reasons? I have a friend who suffers from guillain barre syndrome and is not able to take vaccines without serious risk of relapse. Do we make exceptions for people like her or is she just SOL, she can no longer travel, attend concerts, etc?
My friend with GBS was one of the first people I know who was vaccinated. His dr told him Pfizer only and he was watched a little closer to side effects. He was fine and is fully vaccinated now. Having GBS puts you in greater risk if you get Covid. Worse than side effects from the vaccine. I would encourage your friend to be sure about the consequence of not getting vaccinated
I second this.
I have thyroid issues but my endo still recommended I get the vaccine. I think many drs fear the risks of COVID when you have underlying issues is worse than the vaccine risks. That's been my experience thus far with all of my doctors. I would definitely encourage anyone with underlying issues to speak with their doctor to be on the safe side.
My friend who has GBS is married to a very successful surgeon and her brother is also an MD as well. She has been advised by multiple doctors not to get any vaccines. They also advise her not to get the flu shot. I am fairly certain she is getting better advice from her husband, her brother as well as the doctors who have been treating her GBS for years. Thyroid issues are very different than GBS.
You missed my point. The point I was making is that anyone with underlying issues should speak with their drs before making any decisions about the vaccine, one way or the other.
Yes I guess I thought it was implied in my post that she was advised by her doctors that she should not take the vaccine and therefore would not ever be able to produce a card saying she had, and not just choosing not to get the vaccine. Vaccines are a known cause of GBS so typically those with GBS (especially when it is the result of a vaccine) are advised not to take them. But back to the original question, what would someone like her do since she is not able to get the vaccine? Would there be exemptions? And if there are, I am pretty sure it will be fairly simple to get any doctor to write you some sort of exemption. Just trying to figure out how this proof of vaccination would work.
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Hofstra26
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Re: Fully vaccinated people can gather without masks, CDC says
Posted by lululu
Posted by Hofstra26
Posted by lululu
Posted by Hofstra26
Posted by PhyllisNJoe
Posted by lululu
Posted by beachbabe
Posted by Hofstra26
Quite honestly, and this is just my opinion, I really wouldn't have a problem with being required to show vaccination papers for certain things until we know for sure the pandemic is behind us. If you don't like it, get vaccinated or forgo large public gatherings like concerts where your unvaccinated self would present a possible risk to others.
I agree with this
But what about people who can't receive the vaccine for health reasons? I have a friend who suffers from guillain barre syndrome and is not able to take vaccines without serious risk of relapse. Do we make exceptions for people like her or is she just SOL, she can no longer travel, attend concerts, etc?
My friend with GBS was one of the first people I know who was vaccinated. His dr told him Pfizer only and he was watched a little closer to side effects. He was fine and is fully vaccinated now. Having GBS puts you in greater risk if you get Covid. Worse than side effects from the vaccine. I would encourage your friend to be sure about the consequence of not getting vaccinated
I second this.
I have thyroid issues but my endo still recommended I get the vaccine. I think many drs fear the risks of COVID when you have underlying issues is worse than the vaccine risks. That's been my experience thus far with all of my doctors. I would definitely encourage anyone with underlying issues to speak with their doctor to be on the safe side.
My friend who has GBS is married to a very successful surgeon and her brother is also an MD as well. She has been advised by multiple doctors not to get any vaccines. They also advise her not to get the flu shot. I am fairly certain she is getting better advice from her husband, her brother as well as the doctors who have been treating her GBS for years. Thyroid issues are very different than GBS.
You missed my point. The point I was making is that anyone with underlying issues should speak with their drs before making any decisions about the vaccine, one way or the other.
Yes I guess I thought it was implied in my post that she was advised by her doctors that she should not take the vaccine and therefore would not ever be able to produce a card saying she had, and not just choosing not to get the vaccine. Vaccines are a known cause of GBS so typically those with GBS (especially when it is the result of a vaccine) are advised not to take them. But back to the original question, what would someone like her do since she is not able to get the vaccine? Would there be exemptions? And if there are, I am pretty sure it will be fairly simple to get any doctor to write you some sort of exemption. Just trying to figure out how this proof of vaccination would work.
I read Phyllis"s post and was agreeing with her to speak with your drs. If you read back above you will see that you didn't mention your friend's drs and DH until AFTER both Phyllis"s post and mine. I apologize if I misread.
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Re: Fully vaccinated people can gather without masks, CDC says
Posted by Valentinesbaby73
Posted by GoldenRod
Posted by Valentinesbaby73
Posted by soontobemommyof2
Posted by tourist
Posted by NervousNell
I am still not even close to being eligible for a vaccine nor is my husband. I am amazed that whole extended families are already almost fully vaccinated. Is everyone essential workers/teachers etc? Or does everyone in the world have comorbidities? I feel like nobody I know is vaccinated other than my parents because they are over 75.
My husband's side is all vaccinated. He has a small family, and the only local relatives are over 65 & he works in healthcare. They don't seem to get the fact that I am not eligible.
I have seen them without masks before anyone was vaccinated but now that they are out & about more, I am hesitant about see them for Easter.
I have seen a few younger non teachers post that they got vaccinated, I assume they have conditions on the list. A lot of the conditions are fairly common, asthma, high blood pressure, obesity, and pregnancy.
Also, a lot of my friends are in NYC, and there are more spots there now.
Is pregnancy one of the conditions that would allow soemone to get the vaccine?? . Wow, I’m asking cause these pharmaceutical companies do not have data that would allow them to determine the safety of the vaccine for this subpopulation.
The CDC does not recommend it.
Not true.
https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/vaccines/recommendations/pregnancy.html
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People who are pregnant and part of a group recommended to receive the COVID-19 vaccine may choose to be vaccinated. If they have questions about getting vaccinated, a discussion with a healthcare provider might help them make an informed decision.
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They don't have enough data to recommend it, but they are definitely not "not recommending" it.
Soooo you would be fine with that advice?
The advice of Talk to your Doctor? Yes, I'd be OK talking to my doctor. Wouldn't you?
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soontobemommyof2
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Re: Fully vaccinated people can gather without masks, CDC says
Posted by lululu
Posted by Hofstra26
Posted by lululu
Posted by Hofstra26
Posted by PhyllisNJoe
Posted by lululu
Posted by beachbabe
Posted by Hofstra26
Quite honestly, and this is just my opinion, I really wouldn't have a problem with being required to show vaccination papers for certain things until we know for sure the pandemic is behind us. If you don't like it, get vaccinated or forgo large public gatherings like concerts where your unvaccinated self would present a possible risk to others.
I agree with this
But what about people who can't receive the vaccine for health reasons? I have a friend who suffers from guillain barre syndrome and is not able to take vaccines without serious risk of relapse. Do we make exceptions for people like her or is she just SOL, she can no longer travel, attend concerts, etc?
My friend with GBS was one of the first people I know who was vaccinated. His dr told him Pfizer only and he was watched a little closer to side effects. He was fine and is fully vaccinated now. Having GBS puts you in greater risk if you get Covid. Worse than side effects from the vaccine. I would encourage your friend to be sure about the consequence of not getting vaccinated
I second this.
I have thyroid issues but my endo still recommended I get the vaccine. I think many drs fear the risks of COVID when you have underlying issues is worse than the vaccine risks. That's been my experience thus far with all of my doctors. I would definitely encourage anyone with underlying issues to speak with their doctor to be on the safe side.
My friend who has GBS is married to a very successful surgeon and her brother is also an MD as well. She has been advised by multiple doctors not to get any vaccines. They also advise her not to get the flu shot. I am fairly certain she is getting better advice from her husband, her brother as well as the doctors who have been treating her GBS for years. Thyroid issues are very different than GBS.
You missed my point. The point I was making is that anyone with underlying issues should speak with their drs before making any decisions about the vaccine, one way or the other.
Yes I guess I thought it was implied in my post that she was advised by her doctors that she should not take the vaccine and therefore would not ever be able to produce a card saying she had, and not just choosing not to get the vaccine. Vaccines are a known cause of GBS so typically those with GBS (especially when it is the result of a vaccine) are advised not to take them. But back to the original question, what would someone like her do since she is not able to get the vaccine? Would there be exemptions? And if there are, I am pretty sure it will be fairly simple to get any doctor to write you some sort of exemption. Just trying to figure out how this proof of vaccination would work.
Careful with posting this as some people seem to like reporting it  even though what u stated it’s a fact.
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Fully vaccinated people can gather without masks, CDC says
Pregnant women are at a higher risk for severe illness from covid. It is true that pregnancy was an exclusion criteria for participation in the initial trials. However, based on what we know about how mRNA vaccines work, one could infer they are safe during pregnancy. Regardless, pregnant women should speak with their OB.
Anecdotally, I have 2 pregnant friends who are scientists and both have received the vaccine.
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Re: Fully vaccinated people can gather without masks, CDC says
Posted by Sash
Posted by NervousNell
Posted by Sash
Thank God for the CDC or else I wouldn’t know how to live my life.
Yes. Did you know that you should wash your hands? I did not until they told me how important it is!!
I also anxiously await their recommendation for what I can do this summer. I'd like to make plans.
Me too, patiently waiting on my directives for the summer.
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Re: Fully vaccinated people can gather without masks, CDC says
Posted by soontobemommyof2
Posted by tourist
Posted by NervousNell
I am still not even close to being eligible for a vaccine nor is my husband. I am amazed that whole extended families are already almost fully vaccinated. Is everyone essential workers/teachers etc? Or does everyone in the world have comorbidities? I feel like nobody I know is vaccinated other than my parents because they are over 75.
My husband's side is all vaccinated. He has a small family, and the only local relatives are over 65 & he works in healthcare. They don't seem to get the fact that I am not eligible.
I have seen them without masks before anyone was vaccinated but now that they are out & about more, I am hesitant about see them for Easter.
I have seen a few younger non teachers post that they got vaccinated, I assume they have conditions on the list. A lot of the conditions are fairly common, asthma, high blood pressure, obesity, and pregnancy.
Also, a lot of my friends are in NYC, and there are more spots there now.
Is pregnancy one of the conditions that would allow soemone to get the vaccine?? . Wow, I’m asking cause these pharmaceutical companies do not have sufficient data that would allow them to determine the safety of the vaccine for this subpopulation. That’s why they have not recommended it for pregnant women.
Yes, it is on the NYS list
comorbidities
Obviously, anyone pregnant should check with their ObGyn.
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Re: Fully vaccinated people can gather without masks, CDC says
Posted by PitterPatter11
Posted by Naturalmama
My assumption is you wouldn't be gathering in someone's home in a small group with a bunch of strangers. I have friends and family members that are fully vaccinated and we will start seeing each other in small groups unmasked. They told me they got vaccinated. If one of my friends didn't want to tell me if they got the vaccine or not, I would treat them as they hadn't been and still only see them outdoors with a mask.
This.
Everyone in my family with the exception of my brother and SIL will be fully vaccinated by April 2nd. I plan on seeing my family in April and will be staying with my sister. I will not be wearing a mask when at my sister's house, but I will be wearing a mask if I want to see my brother. We are going to see my ILs for Easter when everyone will be vaccinated except my son.
If I do not know someone's vaccination status, I will not see them without a mask.
Why wouldn’t you see someone without a mask if you are vaccinated?
Isn’t the vaccine to protect you why are you worried if someone else isn’t? Are you just trying to be nice and protect them? Are they requesting you wear one?
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Re: Fully vaccinated people can gather without masks, CDC says
Posted by GoldenRod
Posted by Valentinesbaby73
Posted by GoldenRod
Posted by Valentinesbaby73
Posted by soontobemommyof2
Posted by tourist
Posted by NervousNell
I am still not even close to being eligible for a vaccine nor is my husband. I am amazed that whole extended families are already almost fully vaccinated. Is everyone essential workers/teachers etc? Or does everyone in the world have comorbidities? I feel like nobody I know is vaccinated other than my parents because they are over 75.
My husband's side is all vaccinated. He has a small family, and the only local relatives are over 65 & he works in healthcare. They don't seem to get the fact that I am not eligible.
I have seen them without masks before anyone was vaccinated but now that they are out & about more, I am hesitant about see them for Easter.
I have seen a few younger non teachers post that they got vaccinated, I assume they have conditions on the list. A lot of the conditions are fairly common, asthma, high blood pressure, obesity, and pregnancy.
Also, a lot of my friends are in NYC, and there are more spots there now.
Is pregnancy one of the conditions that would allow soemone to get the vaccine?? . Wow, I’m asking cause these pharmaceutical companies do not have data that would allow them to determine the safety of the vaccine for this subpopulation.
The CDC does not recommend it.
Not true.
https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/vaccines/recommendations/pregnancy.html
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People who are pregnant and part of a group recommended to receive the COVID-19 vaccine may choose to be vaccinated. If they have questions about getting vaccinated, a discussion with a healthcare provider might help them make an informed decision.
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They don't have enough data to recommend it, but they are definitely not "not recommending" it.
Soooo you would be fine with that advice?
The advice of Talk to your Doctor? Yes, I'd be OK talking to my doctor. Wouldn't you?
You would go by your doctor who has less experience over the CDC? The CDC doesn’t even really know.
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Hofstra26
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Re: Fully vaccinated people can gather without masks, CDC says
Posted by GoldenRod
Posted by Valentinesbaby73
Posted by GoldenRod
Posted by Valentinesbaby73
Posted by soontobemommyof2
Posted by tourist
Posted by NervousNell
I am still not even close to being eligible for a vaccine nor is my husband. I am amazed that whole extended families are already almost fully vaccinated. Is everyone essential workers/teachers etc? Or does everyone in the world have comorbidities? I feel like nobody I know is vaccinated other than my parents because they are over 75.
My husband's side is all vaccinated. He has a small family, and the only local relatives are over 65 & he works in healthcare. They don't seem to get the fact that I am not eligible.
I have seen them without masks before anyone was vaccinated but now that they are out & about more, I am hesitant about see them for Easter.
I have seen a few younger non teachers post that they got vaccinated, I assume they have conditions on the list. A lot of the conditions are fairly common, asthma, high blood pressure, obesity, and pregnancy.
Also, a lot of my friends are in NYC, and there are more spots there now.
Is pregnancy one of the conditions that would allow soemone to get the vaccine?? . Wow, I’m asking cause these pharmaceutical companies do not have data that would allow them to determine the safety of the vaccine for this subpopulation.
The CDC does not recommend it.
Not true.
https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/vaccines/recommendations/pregnancy.html
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People who are pregnant and part of a group recommended to receive the COVID-19 vaccine may choose to be vaccinated. If they have questions about getting vaccinated, a discussion with a healthcare provider might help them make an informed decision.
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They don't have enough data to recommend it, but they are definitely not "not recommending" it.
Soooo you would be fine with that advice?
The advice of Talk to your Doctor? Yes, I'd be OK talking to my doctor. Wouldn't you?
You sure? I mean you could always just listen to VB, she seemingly knows everything about COVID and vaccines. Who needs the CDC and doctors??
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JennP
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Re: Fully vaccinated people can gather without masks, CDC says
There's a few people I can quote so I'll just say generally that I would think that the medical exemption would be handled the same way it is in schools.
You either present proof of vaccination or proof of medical exemption.
But my son gets all his shots so I'm not sure how exemption works.
This is just anecdotal but anyone I've talked to has said their employer doesn't want to touch requiring employees to get vaccinated, show proof, etc. with a ten foot pole.
Entertainment venues and similar "fun stuff" could be different though.
Curious if any lawyers could chime in on this.
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3girls1dog
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Re: Fully vaccinated people can gather without masks, CDC says
These vaccines are not FDA approved. They were approved for emergency use. The long term effects have not been studied. Possible log term effects of this vaccine on people with underlying conditions has not been tested and it is a vaccine that has never been tried before.
They don't even know if the vaccine is effective against the virus or if in fact it will keep y0u safe from the virus in months to come.
Covid is treatable. Yes like other virus (e.g.the flu) people will not survive it. But I also feel the numbers of this virus are skewed. Most deaths were marked covid for reimbursement issues.
I would never tell someone not to get vaccinated but I also don't think people should tell me to get vaccinated.
I haven't worn a mask around my extended family since this thing began. I wear a mask in the places that I am required to. Our bodies are amazing things they have the ability to build their own immunity when exposed to a virus.
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JennP
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Re: Fully vaccinated people can gather without masks, CDC says
Posted by Valentinesbaby73
Posted by GoldenRod
Posted by Valentinesbaby73
Posted by GoldenRod
Posted by Valentinesbaby73
Posted by soontobemommyof2
Posted by tourist
Posted by NervousNell
I am still not even close to being eligible for a vaccine nor is my husband. I am amazed that whole extended families are already almost fully vaccinated. Is everyone essential workers/teachers etc? Or does everyone in the world have comorbidities? I feel like nobody I know is vaccinated other than my parents because they are over 75.
My husband's side is all vaccinated. He has a small family, and the only local relatives are over 65 & he works in healthcare. They don't seem to get the fact that I am not eligible.
I have seen them without masks before anyone was vaccinated but now that they are out & about more, I am hesitant about see them for Easter.
I have seen a few younger non teachers post that they got vaccinated, I assume they have conditions on the list. A lot of the conditions are fairly common, asthma, high blood pressure, obesity, and pregnancy.
Also, a lot of my friends are in NYC, and there are more spots there now.
Is pregnancy one of the conditions that would allow soemone to get the vaccine?? . Wow, I’m asking cause these pharmaceutical companies do not have data that would allow them to determine the safety of the vaccine for this subpopulation.
The CDC does not recommend it.
Not true.
https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/vaccines/recommendations/pregnancy.html
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People who are pregnant and part of a group recommended to receive the COVID-19 vaccine may choose to be vaccinated. If they have questions about getting vaccinated, a discussion with a healthcare provider might help them make an informed decision.
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They don't have enough data to recommend it, but they are definitely not "not recommending" it.
Soooo you would be fine with that advice?
The advice of Talk to your Doctor? Yes, I'd be OK talking to my doctor. Wouldn't you?
You would go by your doctor who has less experience over the CDC? The CDC doesn’t even really know.
The difference is that your doctor knows your medical stats, your symptoms, sees you in the flesh, etc.
For example I was reading about the GBS thing and the studies are mixed but what I did read was that doctors often advise people with GBS not to get a certain vaccine if they had symptoms manifest within 6 weeks of getting a shot in the past (makes sense.)
My point is a person's doctor is best equipped to gather that information, interpret it, and apply their medical knowledge to make inferences from it.
If a person doesn't trust their doctor they should really find a new one. Not being sarcastic - I get that it is easy to get into a rut but no one can be a medical expert on everything so you gotta find someone to trust at some point.
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JennP
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Re: Fully vaccinated people can gather without masks, CDC says
Posted by 3girls1dog
These vaccines are not FDA approved. They were approved for emergency use. The long term effects have not been studied. Possible log term effects of this vaccine on people with underlying conditions has not been tested and it is a vaccine that has never been tried before.
They don't even know if the vaccine is effective against the virus or if in fact it will keep y0u safe from the virus in months to come.
Covid is treatable. Yes like other virus (e.g.the flu) people will not survive it. But I also feel the numbers of this virus are skewed. Most deaths were marked covid for reimbursement issues.
I would never tell someone not to get vaccinated but I also don't think people should tell me to get vaccinated.
I haven't worn a mask around my extended family since this thing began. I wear a mask in the places that I am required to. Our bodies are amazing things they have the ability to build their own immunity when exposed to a virus.
They do in fact know about the efficacy of the vaccines and multiple hospital employees have refuted the reimbursement allegation. This is misleading.
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Re: Fully vaccinated people can gather without masks, CDC says
Posted by 3girls1dog
These vaccines are not FDA approved. They were approved for emergency use. The long term effects have not been studied. Possible log term effects of this vaccine on people with underlying conditions has not been tested and it is a vaccine that has never been tried before.
They don't even know if the vaccine is effective against the virus or if in fact it will keep y0u safe from the virus in months to come.
Covid is treatable. Yes like other virus (e.g.the flu) people will not survive it. But I also feel the numbers of this virus are skewed. Most deaths were marked covid for reimbursement issues.
I would never tell someone not to get vaccinated but I also don't think people should tell me to get vaccinated.
I haven't worn a mask around my extended family since this thing began. I wear a mask in the places that I am required to. Our bodies are amazing things they have the ability to build their own immunity when exposed to a virus.
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Re: Fully vaccinated people can gather without masks, CDC says
Posted by LuckyStar
Pregnant women are at a higher risk for severe illness from covid. It is true that pregnancy was an exclusion criteria for participation in the initial trials. However, based on what we know about how mRNA vaccines work, one could infer they are safe during pregnancy. Regardless, pregnant women should speak with their OB.
Anecdotally, I have 2 pregnant friends who are scientists and both have received the vaccine.
Safety would be a number one concern for me, more so if I was pregnant, I wouldn’t feel comfortable taking something based on assumptions on safety rather than concrete evidence. At least that’s how I’d feel. There was a pregnant doctor (don’t recall her specialty) very actively encouraging other pregnant women in social media to get the vaccine. Very sadly she suffered a miscarriage days after receiving the vaccine, and unfortunately this is not the only case I’ve heard of. I do however agree with u, it’s important to talk to ur doctor about these kind of procedures, and ask all the necessary questions and more...risks, what’s known, what’s not known, etc so that person can make the best possible full informed decision that’ll be good for her/him.
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| Posted 3/7/21 10:17 PM |
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Re: Fully vaccinated people can gather without masks, CDC says
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I am still not even close to being eligible for a vaccine nor is my husband. I am amazed that whole extended families are already almost fully vaccinated. Is everyone essential workers/teachers etc? Or does everyone in the world have comorbidities? I feel like nobody I know is vaccinated other than my parents because they are over 75.
My husband's side is all vaccinated. He has a small family, and the only local relatives are over 65 & he works in healthcare. They don't seem to get the fact that I am not eligible.
I have seen them without masks before anyone was vaccinated but now that they are out & about more, I am hesitant about see them for Easter.
I have seen a few younger non teachers post that they got vaccinated, I assume they have conditions on the list. A lot of the conditions are fairly common, asthma, high blood pressure, obesity, and pregnancy.
Also, a lot of my friends are in NYC, and there are more spots there now.
Is pregnancy one of the conditions that would allow soemone to get the vaccine?? . Wow, I’m asking cause these pharmaceutical companies do not have data that would allow them to determine the safety of the vaccine for this subpopulation.
The CDC does not recommend it.
Not true.
https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/vaccines/recommendations/pregnancy.html
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People who are pregnant and part of a group recommended to receive the COVID-19 vaccine may choose to be vaccinated. If they have questions about getting vaccinated, a discussion with a healthcare provider might help them make an informed decision.
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They don't have enough data to recommend it, but they are definitely not "not recommending" it.
Soooo you would be fine with that advice?
The advice of Talk to your Doctor? Yes, I'd be OK talking to my doctor. Wouldn't you?
You would go by your doctor who has less experience over the CDC? The CDC doesn’t even really know.
The difference is that your doctor knows your medical stats, your symptoms, sees you in the flesh, etc.
For example I was reading about the GBS thing and the studies are mixed but what I did read was that doctors often advise people with GBS not to get a certain vaccine if they had symptoms manifest within 6 weeks of getting a shot in the past (makes sense.)
My point is a person's doctor is best equipped to gather that information, interpret it, and apply their medical knowledge to make inferences from it.
If a person doesn't trust their doctor they should really find a new one. Not being sarcastic - I get that it is easy to get into a rut but no one can be a medical expert on everything so you gotta find someone to trust at some point.
Oh I agree in most other circumstances but there is not much long term info on this to say if it is safe on pregnant women for even a doctor to approve.
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Re: Fully vaccinated people can gather without masks, CDC says
Posted by JennP
Posted by 3girls1dog
These vaccines are not FDA approved. They were approved for emergency use. The long term effects have not been studied. Possible log term effects of this vaccine on people with underlying conditions has not been tested and it is a vaccine that has never been tried before.
They don't even know if the vaccine is effective against the virus or if in fact it will keep y0u safe from the virus in months to come.
Covid is treatable. Yes like other virus (e.g.the flu) people will not survive it. But I also feel the numbers of this virus are skewed. Most deaths were marked covid for reimbursement issues.
I would never tell someone not to get vaccinated but I also don't think people should tell me to get vaccinated.
I haven't worn a mask around my extended family since this thing began. I wear a mask in the places that I am required to. Our bodies are amazing things they have the ability to build their own immunity when exposed to a virus.
They do in fact know about the efficacy of the vaccines and multiple hospital employees have refuted the reimbursement allegation. This is misleading.
How many people have had both vaccines for an extended period of time? If they know the efficacy then why are they saying they don’t know how often you need it?
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| Posted 3/7/21 10:19 PM |
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Re: Fully vaccinated people can gather without masks, CDC says
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This thread made me recall that I was reading something that said that employers may mandate vaccines for employees who are returning to work. It sounds like there are ways around it… Like if you decline, then you’d have to work from home. But essentially, employers can require it.
It’ll be interesting to see how that plays out in the various industries.
Someone asked about this on a company call last week and HR and the legal team almost had a heart attack saying they cannot mandate vaccines for us to return to work as there would be many legal ramifications and it could lead to lawsuits. They were uncomfortable even talking about it. They said they definitely would not be doing it.
My company (50,000 employees) emailed us saying they will not require the vaccine because choosing whether to receive a vaccine or not is a personal choice. I applaud them.
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Re: Fully vaccinated people can gather without masks, CDC says
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Posted by BFNY516
This thread made me recall that I was reading something that said that employers may mandate vaccines for employees who are returning to work. It sounds like there are ways around it… Like if you decline, then you’d have to work from home. But essentially, employers can require it.
It’ll be interesting to see how that plays out in the various industries.
Someone asked about this on a company call last week and HR and the legal team almost had a heart attack saying they cannot mandate vaccines for us to return to work as there would be many legal ramifications and it could lead to lawsuits. They were uncomfortable even talking about it. They said they definitely would not be doing it.
My company (50,000 employees) emailed us saying they will not require the vaccine because choosing whether to receive a vaccine or not is a personal choice. I applaud them.
That is wonderful, they get it.
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| Posted 3/7/21 11:46 PM |
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Re: Fully vaccinated people can gather without masks, CDC says
The vaccines are not FDA approved. They were permitted for "emergency use." I think most employers would be a little wary about requiring vaccines that the FDA hasn't even formally approved. The liability would be too great.
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| Posted 3/7/21 11:50 PM |
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NervousNell
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Re: Fully vaccinated people can gather without masks, CDC says
Posted by Valentinesbaby73
Posted by shadows
Posted by NervousNell
Posted by BFNY516
This thread made me recall that I was reading something that said that employers may mandate vaccines for employees who are returning to work. It sounds like there are ways around it… Like if you decline, then you’d have to work from home. But essentially, employers can require it.
It’ll be interesting to see how that plays out in the various industries.
Someone asked about this on a company call last week and HR and the legal team almost had a heart attack saying they cannot mandate vaccines for us to return to work as there would be many legal ramifications and it could lead to lawsuits. They were uncomfortable even talking about it. They said they definitely would not be doing it.
My company (50,000 employees) emailed us saying they will not require the vaccine because choosing whether to receive a vaccine or not is a personal choice. I applaud them.
That is wonderful, they get it.
Like someone else posted above, most big companies don't want to touch this with a 10 foot pole. Too many legal issues. My company didn't even want to discuss it too much, they sounded uncomfortable when it was brought up on the call.....just said they can't and won't require it
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