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cutie
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Hauppauge & Commack People please read
Please take a minute to read the letter from the superintendent on the Hauppage School District's website regarding a community meeting scheduled to address the recently opened homeless facility in our school district. This facility has the potential to house a LARGE number of families.
Commack residents - these children may not currently be attending your district but this will affect your community as well!
Please share with your friends and neighbors as well.
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Re: Hauppauge & Commack People please read
Keep in mind that this facility may also be housing families from the community. Just because you are homeless doesn't mean you are a behavioral or health problem...those types of issues are across all socio economic classes.
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| Posted 10/2/13 2:41 PM |
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cutie
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I agree however, some of these children are from our of state. There have already been issues of the children having to be restrained and one teacher was bitten.
I personally have no problem with integrating homeless children into our community and having them attend our schools, however I do have a problem with a facility like this. That many transient people under one roof is sure to bring things like lice, bedbugs and viruses to our school and community.
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| Posted 10/2/13 2:57 PM |
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Posted by CookiePuss
Keep in mind that this facility may also be housing families from the community. Just because you are homeless doesn't mean you are a behavioral or health problem...those types of issues are across all socio economic classes.
Yes, but by the very definition of "homeless", you are looking at a very transient population. Children will constantly be entering and leaving the classroom setting, which is an interruption. Plus, more than likely, their education has been disrupted over the years, and this also can present an issue in a classroom.
I can certainly see why parents in this district want more information.
P.S. - My student-teaching supervisor years ago was an Asst Superintendent in South Country, and he was VERY honest about the issues that arise when you teach in a district with a transient population.
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| Posted 10/2/13 2:59 PM |
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Posted by cutie
I agree however, some of these children are from our of state. There have already been issues of the children having to be restrained and one teacher was bitten.
I personally have no problem with integrating homeless children into our community and having them attend our schools, however I do have a problem with a facility like this. That many transient people under one roof is sure to bring things like lice, bedbugs and viruses to our school and community.
You don't need homeless to have bed bugs, lice or viruses...I would be surprised if those don't already have residence in your community.
I would be more interested in how this facility plans on permanent housing these families and the length of time they are permitted to stay.
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Yes, worry about how "the children" will effect your district instead of how these children have no place to call home and MAYBE a stable school environment is the one haven and warm meal they get all day. Maybe the education in a good district today is what will help them achieve tomorrow.
Can you imagine how these children feel, I would act out too if I were homeless and had no security as a small child.
EVEN if you get 50 new kids across Commack/Hauppauge the cost per child is not going to signicficantly impact your schools budget.
Present this however you would like, this is a plain old case of NIMBY and I find it shameful. I would more than welcome them if it were my district.
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BargainMama
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Where would you like them to live and go to school? The outrage over this disgusts me. I read about it last week on the Patch and some of the comments were just downright sad.
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| Posted 10/2/13 4:12 PM |
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cutie
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Posted by 2BadSoSad
Yes, worry about the "the children" will effect your district instead of how these children have no place to call home and MAYBE a stable school environment is the one haven and warm meal they get all day. Maybe the education in a good district today is what will help them achieve tomorrow.
Can you imagine how these children feel, I would act at too if I were homeless and had no security as a small child.
EVEN if you get 50 new kids across Commack/Hauppauge the cost per child is not going to signicficantly impact your schools budget.
Present this however you would like, this is a plain old case of NIMBY and I find it shameful. I would more than welcome them if it were my district.
It has absolutely nothing to do with how the children will effect the community. It has everything to do with how a facility like this will.
It has everything to do with the fact that they are stuck in one room - a room with no cooking facilities or refrigerators.
It has nothing to do with cost either.
Chances are you do have homeless children in your district - as we did before this also. The difference is that you didn't KNOW they were homeless. They were able to blend into the community -as it should be. These poor kids are stuck on one bus together - you think they have any anonymity?
As I said in my prior post - I have no problem with homeless kids attending school with my children - I do have a problem with a facility like this.
It's very easy to say you would welcome it when you aren't the one dealing with lice or bedbugs. As much as these kids have a right to go to school, my kids also have a right to attend school in a clean, safe environment.
Anyway - I put this out there for people in the community who would like to come and gain more information - not to start a debate.
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| Posted 10/2/13 4:34 PM |
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2BadSoSad
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Posted by cutie
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Yes, worry about the "the children" will effect your district instead of how these children have no place to call home and MAYBE a stable school environment is the one haven and warm meal they get all day. Maybe the education in a good district today is what will help them achieve tomorrow.
Can you imagine how these children feel, I would act at too if I were homeless and had no security as a small child.
EVEN if you get 50 new kids across Commack/Hauppauge the cost per child is not going to signicficantly impact your schools budget.
Present this however you would like, this is a plain old case of NIMBY and I find it shameful. I would more than welcome them if it were my district.
It has absolutely nothing to do with how the children will effect the community. It has everything to do with how a facility like this will.
It has everything to do with the fact that they are stuck in one room - a room with no cooking facilities or refrigerators.
It has nothing to do with cost either.
Chances are you do have homeless children in your district - as we did before this also. The difference is that you didn't KNOW they were homeless. They were able to blend into the community -as it should be. These poor kids are stuck on one bus together - you think they have any anonymity?
As I said in my prior post - I have no problem with homeless kids attending school with my children - I do have a problem with a facility like this.
It's very easy to say you would welcome it when you aren't the one dealing with lice or bedbugs. As much as these kids have a right to go to school, my kids also have a right to attend school in a clean, safe environment.
Anyway - I put this out there for people in the community who would like to come and gain more information - not to start a debate.
ok.....so the homeless people are going to make your kids environement unsafe and unclean?
I HIGHLY doubt the debate is about the "living conditions the homeless will have to endure and the lack of anonymity for the homeless children"
You cant say in one breath its bc you are concerned for the homeless and how it will make the children feel and in the next say its bc your children deserve a clean environment.
Ive been keeping up on this and the community should be ASHAMED of themselves.
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cutie
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Posted by 2BadSoSad
Posted by cutie
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Yes, worry about the "the children" will effect your district instead of how these children have no place to call home and MAYBE a stable school environment is the one haven and warm meal they get all day. Maybe the education in a good district today is what will help them achieve tomorrow.
Can you imagine how these children feel, I would act at too if I were homeless and had no security as a small child.
EVEN if you get 50 new kids across Commack/Hauppauge the cost per child is not going to signicficantly impact your schools budget.
Present this however you would like, this is a plain old case of NIMBY and I find it shameful. I would more than welcome them if it were my district.
It has absolutely nothing to do with how the children will effect the community. It has everything to do with how a facility like this will.
It has everything to do with the fact that they are stuck in one room - a room with no cooking facilities or refrigerators.
It has nothing to do with cost either.
Chances are you do have homeless children in your district - as we did before this also. The difference is that you didn't KNOW they were homeless. They were able to blend into the community -as it should be. These poor kids are stuck on one bus together - you think they have any anonymity?
As I said in my prior post - I have no problem with homeless kids attending school with my children - I do have a problem with a facility like this.
It's very easy to say you would welcome it when you aren't the one dealing with lice or bedbugs. As much as these kids have a right to go to school, my kids also have a right to attend school in a clean, safe environment.
Anyway - I put this out there for people in the community who would like to come and gain more information - not to start a debate.
ok.....so the homeless people are going to make your kids environement unsafe and unclean?
I HIGHLY doubt the debate is about the "living conditions the homeless will have to endure and the lack of anonymity for the homeless children"
You cant say in one breath its bc you are concerned for the homeless and how it will make the children feel and in the next say its bc your children deserve a clean environment.
Ive been keeping up on this and the community should be ASHAMED of themselves.
I'm curious as to how you've been keeping up with this when I live here and can't even get any information! Maybe you can share some info?
I can say both of those things - the model dss has traditionally used was independent housing in the community, which (in my opinion after speaking with people who deal with the transient homeless community on a regular basis) would cut down on the issues mentioned -all of them.
By bringing Lice and bed bugs yes it makes the environment less clean and people being bitten by children who have not submitted any immunization records (like my children have to) Makes it unsafe.
I agree with you wholeheartedly that the situations described as to how people are reacting and some of the comments posted are shameful -however to say that the community as a whole should be ashamed is ignorant.
I think the people who live here have a right to at least know what is going on - which is why I posted this, so that people may be informed -not reacting to the rumors they are hearing.
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I feel so bad for the kids who have to live in a converted hotel. I work near there and they play in the parking lots of the office buildings...not safe at all!
As far as schooling, they have to go to school somewhere. And the district is reimbursed for the cost of education so your taxes shouldn't go up, give these kids a chance.
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| Posted 10/2/13 5:27 PM |
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I saw something about this on the patch last week, or two weeks ago. I have to say some of the comments from the parents in the district were absolutely DISGUSTING. These are children who Im sure would give ANYTHING NOT to be homeless, and have a decent education. They all deserve the same education, and im sure the amount of kids that would be attending will be minimal, when spread out through the districts and classes.
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Posted by cutie
By bringing Lice and bed bugs yes it makes the environment less clean and people being bitten by children who have not submitted any immunization records (like my children have to) Makes it unsafe.
Why do you think that only homeless children are bringing lice and bed bugs? They aren't like dysentery in 3rd world countries where there is a direct correlation. As far as immunizations; the middle to upper middle class is more likely to have children enter the school system without immunizations due to having resources and know and know how then that of the population of families with young children that are homeless. They tend to be up to date on that due to the presence of medicaid and and social services.
Homeless children that are made fun of and ostracized by children are practicing what they learn at home. If we teach our children compassion, acceptance and empathy...those homeless children won't be made to feel less of themselves because of circumstances beyond their control.
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| Posted 10/2/13 6:19 PM |
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Posted by cutie
I agree however, some of these children are from our of state. There have already been issues of the children having to be restrained and one teacher was bitten.
I personally have no problem with integrating homeless children into our community and having them attend our schools, however I do have a problem with a facility like this. That many transient people under one roof is sure to bring things like lice, bedbugs and viruses to our school and community.
Your statements are just as disgusting as the ones on the patch. Shame on you. Maybe your kid will give them lice. As lice lives in CLEAN hair. Not dirty hair. I am actually embarrassed for you.
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| Posted 10/2/13 6:25 PM |
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Oh my god
You mean a facility is going to set up shop in upper middle class hauppauge? Like, to HELP youth and their families who have been qualified to receive such a gift of assistance?
And you mean they could bring this vicious thing called lice that never occurs in middle class wealthy kids hair?
Where's the petition? We can't have these types in Hauppauge!
Why can't they put it somewhere else? Like Brentwood. Yeah, another town. But god - anywhere but hauppauge.
Ugh. Not even directed at OP per se. I just love all those pearl clutching towns who get in a rage over things like this or affordable housing because it will "ruin their town"
Ignorance. Plain and simple.
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| Posted 10/2/13 6:38 PM |
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Let me also say, there was lice in one of my DC classes recently, in my bosses daughters class last year and wouldn't you know, no homeless shelters in our area.
Bedbugs can just as easily be brought home from ANYONE in your district if they travel on vacation to a hotel with them, if they go to a relatives home and bring them. There are bedbugs in one of my companies other buildings IN HAUPPAUGE...no homeless shelter in the area. I guarantee people who live in Hauppauge work there and send their children to your schools.
These are not problems exclusive to homeless people.
Im curious, if they are going to cause "unsanitary conditions" in your school, where do you propose they live?
They live somewhere now, do you think a cheap motel might not have bedbugs they can bring, do you think they would be MORE transient if they didn't have a stable shelter to call home?
You are also so concerned about the children's anonymity so other children aren't cruel to them, how do you think it makes them feel, or what it teaches your OWN children when the majority of a community tries to prevent them from living near them?
Everyone can spin it as they wish, but I still see a classic case of NIMBY.
They are homeless, not people carrying the plague.
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NIMBY ism at it finest right there folks! Disgusting
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I love how she comes onto a site called FAMILIES HELPING FAMILIES to make this post.
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Moat likely the majority of these children will go to various districts. They are bussed to their home district for some sense of continuity. We have a couple of children who are homeless and travel very far to come to school. Also try to remember that there are still families that are displaced/homeless due to hurricane sandy.
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I love how she comes onto a site called FAMILIES HELPING FAMILIES to make this post.
I was thinking the same exact thing!
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I think that instead of all the NIMBY arguments vs the you should be ashamed arguments, we should try to turn this thread into an idea thread for a way to help these families feel welcomed into your neighborhood and district. If you had no choice but to live in a shelter, wouldn't you want it to be in a decent neighborhood and wouldn't you want to know your children were going to go to a safe school district. Of course the kids are going to act out if they are forced to go to a school where they don't feel welcomed! Why not try welcoming them and see how they respond. I'm not saying their wont be problems, but don't pre judge the situation.
The kids won't be showing up at school after spending the night in a dumpster, im sure there will be some type of showers in the shelter and the children will be clean.
Maybe your community, schools, or churches should start a collection for things they think the families could need or want to feel more comfortable. Coats, blankets, toys, school supplies, clean clothes. Turn this into a learning opportunity. Encourage your children to be good role models and to help the less fortunate. Show these families that you are willing to share your community and give them a reason to want to respect it.
Everyone panics when something like this pops up, but I think a shelter for families is not something to fear. Just try to put yourself in their shoes. Nobody chooses to be homeless, especially not innocent children.
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Wow. 
I live in a very solidly middle class town and we deal with lice at the start of every school year.
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Wow.
I live in a very solidly middle class town and we deal with lice at the start of every school year.
DS just started Pre K and we got a note home the 2nd day of school.
Several of my family members, a couple who are teachers said "Welcome to being a parent of a kid in school".
I had lice when I was in school and so did DH, his siblings and most other people I know.
Also in terms of bed bugs, you can get them from anything soft and squishy.
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Posted by MorningCuppaCoffee
I love how she comes onto a site called FAMILIES HELPING FAMILIES to make this post.
I was thinking the same exact thing!
I have to say that I think it is an issue though that the OP has a right to be concerned with if the children coming in do not have proper vaccinations or have to show proof of that.
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