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Eunyboo
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I seriously am devastated by humanity sometimes and the lack of compassion for each other, but more importantly, for innocent children. It just breaks my heart. 
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Posted by cutie
I don't think it's fair to a family to be stuck in a one room motel unit.
How compassionate of you. 
I dont really think you need to concern yourself with that?
Ask the HOMELESS FAMILY with NO PLACE TO GO if they think it is unfair to be "stuck" in a one room unit or if they prefer to have a roof over their head.
Your comments are abhorrent and your "reasoning" is nothing more than loosely veiled NIMBY.
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2BadSoSad
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Furthermore.....can I ask, what happens if your kids DO get lice? What is the worst that is going to happen to them? Really, you dont want children to have roof over their head so your kids dont get lice? Ummm, priorities.
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| Posted 10/3/13 11:33 AM |
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This is the worst case of fear-mongering NIMBYism I have seen in a long time. Amazing how one post, one poster can sum up all that is wrong with Long Island. Compassion goes a long way. Instead of worrying about these kids being "stigmatized" why not teach your kids to go up to them, smile, say "Welcome" and be a friend.
It never ceases to amaze me how people really can't see that "there but for the Grace of God, go I" and can be so ignorant. Homeless children should be breaking your heart not making you worry about lice and bed bugs.
Sure makes me glad I don't live in the uppercrust of Hauppauge and/or Commack!
ETA: CHI is a great organization. They helped me get a grant back in the day that assisted me in BUYING my first home, as a single 25 year old. Know what the criteria was? I had to be WORKING, have STABLE INCOME and commit to 5 years in the home. Worked out extremely well for me and afforded me the chance to remain on LI as a single professional. Imagine if they are helping families and children do the same.
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CookiePuss
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Posted by cutie
The quote you provided does sound great! Especially the part about "The transitional program provides temporary housing in traditional apartments located throughout the community." These are not traditional apartments but rather a seedy motel that has been taken over by CH -which is one of the things that I personally take issue with. I don't think it's fair to a family to be stuck in a one room motel unit.
So you rather this facility maintain itself as a seedy motel? You rather that clientele? Prostitution, drug and human trafficking, child prostitution over families in need of a place to stay until they can have permanent housing? And that's because that clientele would not be in the schools?
I can certainly understand concerns and questions. But you are generalizing and stereotyping in an effort to make a point that just isn't valid. You would be surprised to learn of how almost every community on LI has housing initiatives and Section 8 housing within their borders. You don't even notice it. These families are homeless due to circumstance for the most part; not because of their lack of moral/social character. It happens because your home burns to the ground or you leave your 500K plus house with your children and the clothes on your back because you husband beats you, or your company of 20+ years lays you off and you can't find work for years...Yeah...those are bad seeds...put up a gate and keep them out.
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NervousNell
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Posted by 2BadSoSad
Furthermore.....can I ask, what happens if your kids DO get lice? What is the worst that is going to happen to them? Really, you dont want children to have roof over their head so your kids dont get lice? Ummm, priorities.
I grew up in a very exclusive area of Long Island and am pretty sure there was no homeless children in my school and yet I STILL got lice. And there were lice outbreaks all the time.
And viruses too.
Go figure.
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JME78
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who spends so much time fretting about lice?
jeez.
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MrsP6311
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Posted by cutie
I don't think it's fair to a family to be stuck in a one room motel unit.
You need to just Stop. Your comments are getting more and more disgusting, rude, disrespectful, sterotyping. I try were housed in a 2 or 3 bedroom then you would be complaining that your taxes went up. Please just stop. You are incredibly ignorant. And these "seedy" motels might be seedy to you but hundreds of families across this island call them home. Sorry not everyone had a white picket fence In front of their house.
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BargainMama
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Ha, our district had a huge lice problem last year, and I don't live in the slums.
I don't think the turnover rate in these shelters is as high as you think. So there won't be new kids coming into the classroom every week. I know someone who was homeless, and put up in a motel in the Smithtown area. They were they for at least a year. Her children went to the school they were displaced from. It's very difficult for those living in shelters to get permanent housing.
Like so many others have said, make this a learning opportunity. Use it to teach tolerance and acceptance. If your children are seeing your attitude about it, no doubt they will bring that attitude to school. Sad, sad, sad.
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Posted by Eunified
I seriously am devastated by humanity sometimes and the lack of compassion for each other, but more importantly, for innocent children. It just breaks my heart.
I agree. This thread seriously breaks my heart. So many self absorbed asssholes out there with no compassion for innocent children. It's sad and disgusting at the same time.
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ThreeforTea
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Hauppauge & Commack People please read
holy cow..how do you think those poor innocent kids feel?! I can't believe what I am reading. This really should NOT be posted on here..let alone FAMILIES HELPING FAMILIES!
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twicethefun
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Yes, worry about the "the children" will effect your district instead of how these children have no place to call home and MAYBE a stable school environment is the one haven and warm meal they get all day. Maybe the education in a good district today is what will help them achieve tomorrow.
Can you imagine how these children feel, I would act at too if I were homeless and had no security as a small child.
EVEN if you get 50 new kids across Commack/Hauppauge the cost per child is not going to signicficantly impact your schools budget.
Present this however you would like, this is a plain old case of NIMBY and I find it shameful. I would more than welcome them if it were my district.
It has absolutely nothing to do with how the children will effect the community. It has everything to do with how a facility like this will.
It has everything to do with the fact that they are stuck in one room - a room with no cooking facilities or refrigerators.
It has nothing to do with cost either.
Chances are you do have homeless children in your district - as we did before this also. The difference is that you didn't KNOW they were homeless. They were able to blend into the community -as it should be. These poor kids are stuck on one bus together - you think they have any anonymity?
As I said in my prior post - I have no problem with homeless kids attending school with my children - I do have a problem with a facility like this.
It's very easy to say you would welcome it when you aren't the one dealing with lice or bedbugs. As much as these kids have a right to go to school, my kids also have a right to attend school in a clean, safe environment.
Anyway - I put this out there for people in the community who would like to come and gain more information - not to start a debate.
ok.....so the homeless people are going to make your kids environement unsafe and unclean?
I HIGHLY doubt the debate is about the "living conditions the homeless will have to endure and the lack of anonymity for the homeless children"
You cant say in one breath its bc you are concerned for the homeless and how it will make the children feel and in the next say its bc your children deserve a clean environment.
Ive been keeping up on this and the community should be ASHAMED of themselves.
This will bring down the value of the homes in the area for several reasons. Potentiial homeowners who are interested in the district will look at test scores and ratings of the schools in the area. Homeless children who have missed a great deal of school and have little home support will certainly struggle in school. Potential buyers will also look at the percentage of free lunch in the schools.
But even more so they will look at that facility and choose to buy else where.
Its no joke, these people in the school district have a right to be concerned. Its their life, their homes and their children. I'm sure they would gladly want to help these homeless families, but this is their life and neighborhood. Of course they are concerned.
So when you purchased your home you took no concern for the school district?
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MegZee
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Posted by twicethefun
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Yes, worry about the "the children" will effect your district instead of how these children have no place to call home and MAYBE a stable school environment is the one haven and warm meal they get all day. Maybe the education in a good district today is what will help them achieve tomorrow.
Can you imagine how these children feel, I would act at too if I were homeless and had no security as a small child.
EVEN if you get 50 new kids across Commack/Hauppauge the cost per child is not going to signicficantly impact your schools budget.
Present this however you would like, this is a plain old case of NIMBY and I find it shameful. I would more than welcome them if it were my district.
It has absolutely nothing to do with how the children will effect the community. It has everything to do with how a facility like this will.
It has everything to do with the fact that they are stuck in one room - a room with no cooking facilities or refrigerators.
It has nothing to do with cost either.
Chances are you do have homeless children in your district - as we did before this also. The difference is that you didn't KNOW they were homeless. They were able to blend into the community -as it should be. These poor kids are stuck on one bus together - you think they have any anonymity?
As I said in my prior post - I have no problem with homeless kids attending school with my children - I do have a problem with a facility like this.
It's very easy to say you would welcome it when you aren't the one dealing with lice or bedbugs. As much as these kids have a right to go to school, my kids also have a right to attend school in a clean, safe environment.
Anyway - I put this out there for people in the community who would like to come and gain more information - not to start a debate.
ok.....so the homeless people are going to make your kids environement unsafe and unclean?
I HIGHLY doubt the debate is about the "living conditions the homeless will have to endure and the lack of anonymity for the homeless children"
You cant say in one breath its bc you are concerned for the homeless and how it will make the children feel and in the next say its bc your children deserve a clean environment.
Ive been keeping up on this and the community should be ASHAMED of themselves.
This will bring down the value of the homes in the area for several reasons. Potentiial homeowners who are interested in the district will look at test scores and ratings of the schools in the area. Homeless children who have missed a great deal of school and have little home support will certainly struggle in school. Potential buyers will also look at the percentage of free lunch in the schools.
But even more so they will look at that facility and choose to buy else where.
Its no joke, these people in the school district have a right to be concerned. Its their life, their homes and their children. I'm sure they would gladly want to help these homeless families, but this is their life and neighborhood. Of course they are concerned.
So when you purchased your home you took no concern for the school district?
There are 24 kids out of 4,000.... That's 0.6%....oh yes that's going to drive down scores so much
Plus, the facility is NOT in a residential area. It's in the industrial park nowhere near other homes.
I live in A similar district in terms of economic/student population and my biggest concern is my daughter growing up with a lack of diversity.
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Here we go with the "property values & school district talk". Let's just call it what it is.
Honestly, if you want your kids to be in an all-white school district, this is when issues like this tend to come up.
I feel it myself sometimes because DH and I bought in a VERY diverse district.
It's ALWAYS outsiders who have something bad to say about it though. ALWAYS.
I take DS to the library and park a lot and you know what? "Those" parents AND their children are some pretty nice people, who also want the best for their kids.
Just because you don't have the same economic opportunities as those in a more affluent district, does not make you a bad person. And skin color and ethnicity certainly doesn't make you a bad person. Often it's the opposite.
I refuse to speak ill about the affluent district the next town over, because I am not a resident, but if I CHOSE to listen to the people who are part of it, I would say there's a pretty bad drug problem and other similar issues because of "rich kids with money and lack of supervision".
Go to this meeting if you want the "answers", but stop talking out of both sides of your mouth. You are digging yourself deeper and deeper, and I honestly don't believe you really care about anyone but yourself.
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P.S. I think the fact that I live a block from a canal and had damage from SANDY is what brought my property value down. That and the fact that I bought before the bubble burst.
 
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Posted by MorningCuppaCoffee
Here we go with the "property values & school district talk". Let's just call it what it is.
Honestly, if you want your kids to be in an all-white school district, this is when issues like this tend to come up.
I feel it myself sometimes because DH and I bought in a VERY diverse district.
It's ALWAYS outsiders who have something bad to say about it though. ALWAYS.
I take DS to the library and park a lot and you know what? "Those" parents AND their children are some pretty nice people, who also want the best for their kids.
Just because you don't have the same economic opportunities as those in a more affluent district, does not make you a bad person. And skin color and ethnicity certainly doesn't make you a bad person. Often it's the opposite.
I refuse to speak ill about the affluent district the next town over, because I am not a resident, but if I CHOSE to listen to the people who are part of it, I would say there's a pretty bad drug problem and other similar issues because of "rich kids with money and lack of supervision".
Go to this meeting if you want the "answers", but stop talking out of both sides of your mouth. You are digging yourself deeper and deeper, and I honestly don't believe you really care about anyone but yourself.
Very well said!
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DiamondGirl
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What surprises me about this whole post is that someone actually had the balls to post it with the  icon. Like as if to say I know everyone on LIF will agree that we should target homeless children and make sure they don't live on OUR Island in a shelter.
Lack of humanity AND thinking that the whole world thinks like this, I am so scared for my son that he has to grow up with people who think like this.
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Hauppauge & Commack People please read
Being technically homeless for a while in grade school/high school with my some what of a single parent, it was extremely difficult growing up. My mom did everything in her power to find shelter/food for me whiling keeping me in my current school district. In fact, it was probably more important as I could of easily been and undesirable and poor performing Wyadanch.
Yes, i had no stability. I moved lets say 10+ times before i was a senior in high school. My parents never saw me in school functions because they worked to make the little money to keep me safe and warm. We hit up churches for weekly meal boxes for food. My mom would find friends for me to "live" with while she tried desperately to make money. We never had a car as we were used to cabs, bus and train schedules. We were "section 8" people (took many years to get affordable housing) that finally gave me "stability" that every kid should have. As a result, didn't have many friends growing up, i have my own personal issues of security, sense of home and between this an my parent separation, i don't have great relationships with either parent. My childhood memories is packing up the little we have and moving and not seeing my parents and sometimes living with out lights or heat. At age 35 and struggling to get to this point while raising my daughter, i starting to see what my mom did for me.
Americans have gone on to criticize everything that could possibly be good in this world. Its a shame people are just worried about them selfs and love to just criticize while they sit back on a comfy couch and post from and iPad mini without most worries in the world. Grow up!! there is a whole world you don't know nor care about so why jump in now for your 2 cents. Now i know this is not for everyone and in fact, i didn't read every single post but I see the thread took a turn for the worst with the debates on property, school quality and health.
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I never once looked at the amount of free lunches offered when researching for a home. That was never a factor. I still don't see how that's an issue.
If someone was looking at hauppauge and saw the nice community and well-cared for homes, knew of the long term reputation, and they were an involved parent, an increase in free lunches would turn them off? Especially in a tried and true district such as hauppauge?
People should be more concerned studying areas that have a mysteriously high reported number of cancer over free lunches.
On another note - I'd love someone who has experience with the city and schools to jump in here. From my understanding, kids from all neighborhoods can go to whatever school in the city if allowed. Are LIers more picky?
And I agree with a lot of what morning coffee said above.
The good thing is - I think young or first time buyers are moving into areas with a middle of the road reputation and are building them up rapidly. They can't afford the crazy taxes in certain areas and are picking other towns that are still decent and building them up more.
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BargainMama
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It wouldn't even occur to me to look at the test scores with all the common core, teaching to the test BS going on right now. Most kids do VERY poorly on those tests, and that is not reflective of the district as a whole. In our district we had kids in AP classes score below proficient.
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KarenK122
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This is just crazy. They are not building slums next to your houses that will bring down house values or test scores. I'm in Three Village and we have over 25 homeless kids within the district and there is no way you can tell me that they are bringing down test scores or home values. We also have a food bank that all the kids get very excited about fundraising and bringing in food for.
We are talking about children, learn to embrace them in your community and maybe start teaching your kids about compassion and giving back.
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Spookie-D
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I hope the parents in this school district aren't projecting these feelings about these people onto their children who will only take it out on those kids
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JandJ1224
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The original post just stated where people can get more information about whats going on. That's one of the things I love about lifamilies. It makes me aware of things I might not have known about otherwise.
If there was something going on in my town that could potentially affect my school district and in turn my property value of course I would want to know more about it and have an opinion about it. Does that mean I have no compassion, no. Does that mean I am a bad person, no.
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Posted by JandJ1224
The original post just stated where people can get more information about whats going on. That's one of the things I love about lifamilies. It makes me aware of things I might not have known about otherwise.
If there was something going on in my town that could potentially affect my school district and in turn my property value of course I would want to know more about it and have an opinion about it. Does that mean I have no compassion, no. Does that mean I am a bad person, no.
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Posted by BabyBoy
Being technically homeless for a while in grade school/high school with my some what of a single parent, it was extremely difficult growing up. My mom did everything in her power to find shelter/food for me whiling keeping me in my current school district. In fact, it was probably more important as I could of easily been and undesirable and poor performing Wyadanch.
Yes, i had no stability. I moved lets say 10+ times before i was a senior in high school. My parents never saw me in school functions because they worked to make the little money to keep me safe and warm. We hit up churches for weekly meal boxes for food. My mom would find friends for me to "live" with while she tried desperately to make money. We never had a car as we were used to cabs, bus and train schedules. We were "section 8" people (took many years to get affordable housing) that finally gave me "stability" that every kid should have. As a result, didn't have many friends growing up, i have my own personal issues of security, sense of home and between this an my parent separation, i don't have great relationships with either parent. My childhood memories is packing up the little we have and moving and not seeing my parents and sometimes living with out lights or heat. At age 35 and struggling to get to this point while raising my daughter, i starting to see what my mom did for me.
Americans have gone on to criticize everything that could possibly be good in this world. Its a shame people are just worried about them selfs and love to just criticize while they sit back on a comfy couch and post from and iPad mini without most worries in the world. Grow up!! there is a whole world you don't know nor care about so why jump in now for your 2 cents. Now i know this is not for everyone and in fact, i didn't read every single post but I see the thread took a turn for the worst with the debates on property, school quality and health.
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