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Horrible, horrible family situation. I need advice, thoughts, etc.... Warning - very long....
Every year my parents have July 4th at their house. They invite their friends. I go with my family, my stepsister with hers. This year we also invited 2 other families with their babies (Thia/Thiadora on here, and Bernadette/artjunkie on here) since we have been friends since Bradley class and the babies are all the same age.
My parents also have a pool. My younger stepdaughter and my stepsister's daughter are the same age (11, going into 6th grade) and live in the same town, so they get along. So, I was with my stepdaughter, her boyfriend, and the 2 families I invited, DH, and Cailen hanging out by the pool. The kids were eating, swimming, we were all chatting and having a great time.
Cailen wanted to wander around, so I walked around with him (my parents have a lot of property). As I'm walking, I see my niece (my stepdaughter's daughter - we will call her Michelle) wrapped in a towel and looking extremely upset. My stepsister (lets call her Beth) asked her whats wrong, and she sad she wanted to talk privately with grandma (my stepmom). I know Michelle gets upset very easily - she is a moody little girl, and I figured that maybe she got in a little spat with her brother or my stepdaughter.
Then after they are done talking, my stemom motions me over. I'm like, uh oh, she must have had some issue with Devin (my stepdaughter.)
My stepmom says, "when Michelle was in the pool, she heard you tell everybody that she was fat, and now she is very upset!!!!"
This SHOCKED me for several reasons. First of all, my stepmom and stepsister called me fat my whole life, which was traumatic for me. It took until my late 20's to even accept myself, so I am very, very VERY sensitive about that. Michelle happens to be overweight, and Devin, my stepdaughter happens to already have a very lean, thin body, so she must already have been self conscious. Whenever my stepmom talks about Michelle being overweight, I tell her to lay off because I don't want her having those same issues. Her parents are always yelling at her (when we went to Disney when she was 5 or 6, and she was having one of her moods, my BIL told her to stop being such a "b*tch!!!!) so this child already is going through a lot.
I went over to Michelle, and asked her whats wrong, what happened. I was already very upset.
Michelle all of a sudden has a complete meltdown. She starts wringing her pony tail, twisting it, and telling me that I am mean to her, that I have always been mean to her (she rarely ever talks to me because of her shyness and her moods) She told me 2-3 years ago, I told her to "move" whens he was in my way, and one time I brought her to a friend's house to play with a little boy and I told her to clean up the toys because she made a mess.... things like that - really weird, irrational type things.
I was shocked, and very, very disturbed by her behavior. She looked like the way someone with mental illness looks. Shut off, babbling, hysterical crying.... rambling. We were alone. Then she told me that she is "afraid of being brave." Which made no sense to me. When I asked her where all this is coming from, she said "From her heart." I had my arm around her and I was talking to her, about all the problems I had when I was growing up, and how I understood what its like to be sad and needing someone to talk to. She still looked afraid of me, and I asked her if I scared her. She said yes - "because you are so tough and I'm so weak!"
These things really upset me to see. I told her that I would never call anyone fat because grandma used to call me fat my whole life, and I told her its very hard to be a part of this family. she nodded. I told her that is why I got so tough but it has nothing to do with her.
I tried talking to my stepsister, but she didn't want to talk to me, she wanted to talk to Michelle first.
After, I went to my stepsister, who has a lot of anxiety, personality issues, etc, and I sad I was very concerned by all the things she said, and I think she may need help. Understandably, she exploded on me ( I know no one wants to hear stuff like this about their child, but this was really bad - like suicidal type stuff - didn't say that though. )
She said its my fault because of what I said, I made her cry, and Michelle told her the following, "I called you fat because people called me fat, and when you grow up, thats what you do to other people!!!"
She started yelling at me, "Oh yeah - your the PERFECT mother. Your the perfect mother!"
I said, "Do you really want to have all this drama in front of everyone???" Because this was in front of all my parent's friends. Then, I got low and said she was f*cking crazy.
I was so upset with all of this, of seeing this child so delusional, having her mother blame me for it, and yelling at me like that.
So, this is how it was left. My dad played Mr. Clueless. I'm sure my stepmom is siding with her daughter and granddaughter. How could they think I would say something like this? I know I cannot help my niece, but this was very upsetting.
now I don't know what future family events are going to be like. This really disturbed, as well as disgusted me. I can't shake what she looked like, what she was saying, and how she was behaving. My older niece and nephew (my other stepsister's daughter and son - she died of cancer 7 yrs ago) both have severe psychological problems and were institutionalized so I know it runs in the family. My stepmom refuses to talk about these things and I think they are in denial about Michelle and her younger brother (who clearly has a severe learning disability, which I have never shared with anyone....) I somehow have become the demon in this. I know I was the "black sheep" in my family for a very long time, and I thought things were getting quieter (not better, but quieter). They used to do and say awful things to me, but when Angelo came into my life he set them straight so they lay off.
I try and keep Cailen at a distance from my family as it is, but sometimes he does have to show up to family events.
I am so depressed about all this.
If you have read all this, thank you. Between my mentally ill mother who I have not spoken to in 5 years, and now all of this craziness, I can't deal with insanity anymore. It is so toxic.
ETA - I have always had a special place in my heart for my niece because of how sad and low self esteem she always seemed (sorry for my grammar - haven't slept much) and my friend and I are always talking about how beautiful she is - she has gorgeous features.... And lately she was starting to talk to me more and I thought maybe she was getting over her stuff a little....
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DancinBarefoot
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Re: Horrible, horrible family situation. I need advice, thoughts, etc.... Warning - very long....
Liza, I did read the entire post, and as much as you may not want to hear this, my only advice is to completely distance yourself from them all. From everything I have read in the past, and now this, it seems to me that these "family" gathering serve no purpose other than to upset you and call your parenting into question.
Angelo, Cailen, and your step-daughters are your family now. Not your father, your step-monster, and your step-sisters and their offspring.
Please stop putting yourself in harm's way.
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Posted 7/5/08 8:50 AM |
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Annie91606
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Re: Horrible, horrible family situation. I need advice, thoughts, etc.... Warning - very long....
Your conversation with your niece reminds me a lot of the ones I have with my brother, who we think has bi-polar disorder even though he refuses treatment. he is scared of people for no real reason, recounts conversations that never happened, and skews actual events to make it seem like people were attacking him, when it never happened. he is scared of certain family members for unknown reasons.
dealing with mentall illness in families is really hard. Have you attended any of the support groups held by NAMI?
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Posted 7/5/08 8:53 AM |
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Re: Horrible, horrible family situation. I need advice, thoughts, etc.... Warning - very long....
Posted by DancinBarefoot
Liza, I did read the entire post, and as much as you may not want to hear this, my only advice is to completely distance yourself from them all. From everything I have read in the past, and now this, it seems to me that these "family" gathering serve no purpose other than to upset you and call your parenting into question.
Angelo, Cailen, and your step-daughters are your family now. Not your father, your step-monster, and your step-sisters and their offspring.
Please stop putting yourself in harm's way.
Thank you!!!
The funny thing is, I have distanced myself a lot. Once upon a time this would have devastated me, not just "depressed" me. I am sadder for my niece. But there is nothing I can do.
I hardly speak to my dad anymore. We just exchange niceties. He is a stranger to me. So is my stepmother. She makes a show in front of her friends about Cailen, but neither of them saw him in a month. I'm fine with that.
There is no way they could ever make me question myself as a mom. I know what NOT to do, and I have such a happy little boy. I know I am doing something right, and so do they, and that is why they have such issue. They only want to see me mess up, and I have let them down.
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BigB
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Re: Horrible, horrible family situation. I need advice, thoughts, etc.... Warning - very long....
This is the exact reason I stopped going to family functions! I really didn't need to be part of the dysfunction!
I know it may be hard, but stop going to family functions! You will be much saner and your child will not be exposed to this fighting!
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Posted 7/5/08 8:57 AM |
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Moehick
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Re: Horrible, horrible family situation. I need advice, thoughts, etc.... Warning - very long....
You did nothing wrong in my eyes. Your stepsister and her daughter are both reacting irrationally to you because I suspect your the "easiest" person there to channel their strange behavior unto.
If this happened to me and I already talked to my niece and stepsister to explain myself, well, then thats all I would do. Go to the family functions you want to and say hello and take their cue. Really you have already let them know what you think is wrong so there isn't much more to say on that matter.
Dysfunctional family are always so fun to deal with....gotta love em
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Posted 7/5/08 8:58 AM |
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Re: Horrible, horrible family situation. I need advice, thoughts, etc.... Warning - very long....
Posted by Annie91606
Your conversation with your niece reminds me a lot of the ones I have with my brother, who we think has bi-polar disorder even though he refuses treatment. he is scared of people for no real reason, recounts conversations that never happened, and skews actual events to make it seem like people were attacking him, when it never happened. he is scared of certain family members for unknown reasons.
dealing with mentall illness in families is really hard. Have you attended any of the support groups held by NAMI?
I was thinking about it. Ironically, one of my best friends has metal illness, and she s one of the most grounded and sane people I know (because she is very aware and a good advocate).
I have to say its difficult to get too involved with NAMI because of all the mental illness I have had to deal with growing up, and the illness that continues in my stepfamily. My cousin also has some issues. Its all around me. I feel the last thing I want to do in my spare time is to be involved even more with it... KWIM?
I always suspected bipolar disorder in my niece, or at least the beginning stages. My mother has it and never recieved treatment (it wasn't her, it was everyone else - I'm sure you know what I'm talking about) Now I'm sure. But my stepsister has something wrong with her too, besides daddy issues, so she wants my dad all to herself (meantime, she will never win that one. My dad cares about his boat, and his business. I have accepted that years ago. She won't ever. )
I try very hard not to flaunt anything in front of my stepsister because I know she cannot deal with me. I never talk about my job. I thank people quietly when they compliment Cailen. I try and keep him away from them at a GTG so they won't have to see him because I know it bothers them. I try and just keep quiet and let them be because I know they have problems. That is why things have been quieter.... I knew it couldn't last.
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Posted 7/5/08 9:00 AM |
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And to top it all off, it ruined the wonderful evening I had with friends, and while I was in the pool with Cailen, who was oblivious and kicking and splashing and squealing, I could not enjoy myself because I was trying not to cry.
I will never get back that time that I lost because of this.
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Posted 7/5/08 9:03 AM |
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Re: Horrible, horrible family situation. I need advice, thoughts, etc.... Warning - very long....
Posted by DancinBarefoot
Liza, I did read the entire post, and as much as you may not want to hear this, my only advice is to completely distance yourself from them all. From everything I have read in the past, and now this, it seems to me that these "family" gathering serve no purpose other than to upset you and call your parenting into question.
Angelo, Cailen, and your step-daughters are your family now. Not your father, your step-monster, and your step-sisters and their offspring.
Please stop putting yourself in harm's way.
Great Advice. I completely agree. Distance yourself from them.
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Posted 7/5/08 9:15 AM |
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Posted 7/5/08 9:29 AM |
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Goldi0218
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Re: Horrible, horrible family situation. I need advice, thoughts, etc.... Warning - very long....
Posted by LI-Joy
Posted by DancinBarefoot
Liza, I did read the entire post, and as much as you may not want to hear this, my only advice is to completely distance yourself from them all. From everything I have read in the past, and now this, it seems to me that these "family" gathering serve no purpose other than to upset you and call your parenting into question.
Angelo, Cailen, and your step-daughters are your family now. Not your father, your step-monster, and your step-sisters and their offspring.
Please stop putting yourself in harm's way.
Great Advice. I completely agree. Distance yourself from them.
Liza, I am going to agree as well. You and I both work in mental health. We know how the brain works in typical and atypical situtations. You do not need to subject yourself and your children to potentially harmful situations, nor to you need to accept or be accused of something you are clearly not responsible for. Enjoy the family and friends that you can count on and do not subject them to the instability of this branch of your family.
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Posted 7/5/08 9:41 AM |
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MrsFlatbread
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Re: Horrible, horrible family situation. I need advice, thoughts, etc.... Warning - very long....
I agree with Darlene here...drama is too much...get it out of your life...
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Posted 7/5/08 9:44 AM |
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Re: Horrible, horrible family situation. I need advice, thoughts, etc.... Warning - very long....
Posted by DancinBarefoot
Liza, I did read the entire post, and as much as you may not want to hear this, my only advice is to completely distance yourself from them all. From everything I have read in the past, and now this, it seems to me that these "family" gathering serve no purpose other than to upset you and call your parenting into question.
Angelo, Cailen, and your step-daughters are your family now. Not your father, your step-monster, and your step-sisters and their offspring.
Please stop putting yourself in harm's way.
I totally agree...
You have to distance yourself from them. They have issues and you don't need their negative energy around your DS.
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Posted 7/5/08 9:54 AM |
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Posted 7/5/08 9:57 AM |
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Re: Horrible, horrible family situation. I need advice, thoughts, etc.... Warning - very long....
This is a very hard situation. I would have to agree with the other posters and say that b/c of your step sister and step mom you should probably distance yourself from the whole group b/c with them - I don't think you will ever be able to get close to your niece. That said, it sounds to me like your niece was desperately seeking attention and acceptance from you since she is obviously not getting it at home. The poor kid
You sound like a wonderful mom and a caring aunt and I think you did the best you could in this situation
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Posted 7/5/08 10:16 AM |
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Elizabeth
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Re: Horrible, horrible family situation. I need advice, thoughts, etc.... Warning - very long....
I'm sorry...I don't even know you personally, just from your posts here and a few helpful FMs and I find it hard to believe you would be accused of this. You seem like a very caring person, esp with children and based on your own experiences, I find it even harder to believe that they could believe that. Perhaps your SS's DD is lashing out at someone she feels safe with? I know this happens with children sometimes, they direct things at someone who they feel trusting of instead of the real target. Either way, I'm sorry that you have to be accused and so upset. I hope you find some resolution for peace for yourself, even if you can't change your family, KWIM?
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Posted 7/5/08 10:19 AM |
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MatteosMom
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Re: Horrible, horrible family situation. I need advice, thoughts, etc.... Warning - very long....
Posted by DancinBarefoot
Liza, I did read the entire post, and as much as you may not want to hear this, my only advice is to completely distance yourself from them all. From everything I have read in the past, and now this, it seems to me that these "family" gathering serve no purpose other than to upset you and call your parenting into question.
Angelo, Cailen, and your step-daughters are your family now. Not your father, your step-monster, and your step-sisters and their offspring.
Please stop putting yourself in harm's way.
I completely agree! You did nothing wrong and to be accused of doing such things is not something you should have to deal with. As well as all you already have gone through with your stepmom and stepsister. I'm so sorry.
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Posted 7/5/08 10:34 AM |
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GioiaMia
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Re: Horrible, horrible family situation. I need advice, thoughts, etc.... Warning - very long....
I think you need to get your family away from all of that negativity and chaos. BUT I also "know" you and I know that you will not stop thinking about "Michelle" and I think that you should try to help her while keeping your family away, if it is at all possible
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Posted 7/5/08 11:20 AM |
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Re: Horrible, horrible family situation. I need advice, thoughts, etc.... Warning - very long....
Posted by Goldi0218
Posted by LI-Joy
Posted by DancinBarefoot
Liza, I did read the entire post, and as much as you may not want to hear this, my only advice is to completely distance yourself from them all. From everything I have read in the past, and now this, it seems to me that these "family" gathering serve no purpose other than to upset you and call your parenting into question.
Angelo, Cailen, and your step-daughters are your family now. Not your father, your step-monster, and your step-sisters and their offspring.
Please stop putting yourself in harm's way.
Great Advice. I completely agree. Distance yourself from them.
Liza, I am going to agree as well. You and I both work in mental health. We know how the brain works in typical and atypical situtations. You do not need to subject yourself and your children to potentially harmful situations, nor to you need to accept or be accused of something you are clearly not responsible for. Enjoy the family and friends that you can count on and do not subject them to the instability of this branch of your family.
I agree with the 2 above posters. Unfortunately there are people like this, and they won't change.
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Posted 7/5/08 12:55 PM |
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Re: Horrible, horrible family situation. I need advice, thoughts, etc.... Warning - very long....
Posted by DancinBarefoot
Liza, I did read the entire post, and as much as you may not want to hear this, my only advice is to completely distance yourself from them all. From everything I have read in the past, and now this, it seems to me that these "family" gathering serve no purpose other than to upset you and call your parenting into question.
Angelo, Cailen, and your step-daughters are your family now. Not your father, your step-monster, and your step-sisters and their offspring.
Please stop putting yourself in harm's way.
I agree 100% with this. You have tried so hard from reading your other posts to have a relationship with these people, and they continue to push you away. I am so sorry.
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Posted 7/5/08 1:03 PM |
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Re: Horrible, horrible family situation. I need advice, thoughts, etc.... Warning - very long....
Aww Liza
I don't have any advice... and you don't really need it. You know what needs to be done.
But because you are aces and should not have to be in this situation at all.
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Posted 7/5/08 1:48 PM |
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Re: Horrible, horrible family situation. I need advice, thoughts, etc.... Warning - very long....
Thanks ladies - this whole thing just blows
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Posted 7/5/08 2:07 PM |
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lisad117
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Re: Horrible, horrible family situation. I need advice, thoughts, etc.... Warning - very long....
From what you wrote, it seems as though your family has alot of issues and it may be best for you to just distance yourself from them. I know that is very hard to do but if you are going to wind up being upset every time you see them, it probably isn't worth it.
When I have situations with my own family I try to ask myself- if this was just a friend what would I do and I try to use that as a guide. I think that we often put up with behavior from our families than we wouldn't from a friend but if you think about it- just because you are related to someone does not give them the right to treat you badly. Good Luck!
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DUCKS2001
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Re: Horrible, horrible family situation. I need advice, thoughts, etc.... Warning - very long....
Liza I can only give you hugs and the only advice i can give is perhaps just lay low for a while.
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Posted 7/5/08 4:14 PM |
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Re: Horrible, horrible family situation. I need advice, thoughts, etc.... Warning - very long....
Posted by Tilde
I think you need to get your family away from all of that negativity and chaos. BUT I also "know" you and I know that you will not stop thinking about "Michelle" and I think that you should try to help her while keeping your family away, if it is at all possible
I can understand this- i've been in a very similar situation (i also avoid famly gatherings with certain members too), but i learned the hard way that you just need to bow out. 'Michelle' is in a toxic situation, she's surrounded by it and it's all that she knows. Eventhough you'd have the best of intentions to try to make her life even a little bit better, or be that person that's there for her... it's just going to come back and bite you in the asss. She's under such a toxic influence, that whatever you do is only going to get twisted around and used against you. If you're going to have any sense of self-preservation, you have to realize that its just not worth it. (maybe i'm jaded though, b/c i'm going through something similar and am just over trying to help people who apparently find comfort in 'crazy').
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