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4ForMe
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I am so aggravated and appalled.
I just found out this week that a boy (a teen "minor") that has grown up on my street (across the street and 4 doors down) raped another MS boy this summer. He gave him a date rape drug, raped him and then orally sodomized him.
He went to juvenille detention for a couple of months and is now living back home and was switched to another MS in the district so that he wouldn't be at the same school as the boy he raped. He is allowed to play on the school football team -- in fact his team played the MS of the boy he raped and the poor boy he did this to opted out of the game that day because he didn't want to be near him.
Because he is a minor nobody on my street was officially notified, yet there are kids in almost every single home. My own boys ages 10 and under walk past his house to come home from the bus stop. Mind you this boy could take me down -- he's about 6'3 and weighs about 275. His mother is bedridden with heart problems and his father is never home -- there's no supervision.
What do we even do. Do we have no rights because he is a minor? I'm so disgusted.
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headoverheels
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Re: I am so aggravated and appalled.
It is not likely that he just went to the detention center for a couple of months and then was sent home. He is more than likely on probation which includes mandatory counseling.
I could understand being scared, but aggravated and appalled? How about concerned for his mental health? Should we just lock him up and throw away the key? And what if he is getting counseling, and doing well even - should he be shunned and harassed at school because of his prior history? Whatever happened to second chances? It saddens me that you are so "disgusted."
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| Posted 10/29/10 10:12 AM |
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Re: I am so aggravated and appalled.
Honestly, I think all you really can do at this point is keep a close eye on your DC and make sure they are very well informed to let you or an adult know if anyone ever makes them feel uncomfortable.
The living situation you describe.....I can only imagine what goes on that lead this boy to do this.
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Gatsbygirl
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Re: I am so aggravated and appalled.
That is very upsetting!
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Re: I am so aggravated and appalled.
I sat here reading this with my mouth opened the whole time. I would be aggravated and appalled too.
How about the mental stability of the kid he did this to? He had to miss out on a sporting game and probably many other events in his life because he does not want to be around the teenager who raped him. This is so sad.
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| Posted 10/29/10 10:18 AM |
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Ayne11
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Re: I am so aggravated and appalled.
It is scary. I don't blame you to think of the "what If's"
Being that he's just a minor, hopefully he is getting counseling and treatment. He may act out more aggressively the older he gets.
ETA: maybe I'm naieve but I'm a little stunned that a teenager would pre medatate this to the point of picking out his victim & going so far as to purchase a date rape drug. 
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| Posted 10/29/10 10:19 AM |
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Peainapod
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Re: I am so aggravated and appalled.
OP absolutely has the right to be appalled and disgusted..he drugged and orally raped someone..whats not to be disgusted about??
I would be definitely be concerned for my own children.
For a teen to think of doing that on his own..something is very wrong and I hope he is getting help, considering he has no parental supervision.
Im not sure what the legal rights are for OP in this situation.
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Re: I am so aggravated and appalled.
omg i an disgusted and appalled just reading that. just keep an eye on your children.
i feel so bad for the victim. that's so tramautizing.
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| Posted 10/29/10 10:29 AM |
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Re: I am so aggravated and appalled.
Posted by Peainapod
OP absolutely has the right to be appalled and disgusted..he drugged and orally raped someone..whats not to be disgusted about??
I would be definitely be concerned for my own children.
For a teen to think of doing that on his own..something is very wrong and I hope he is getting help, considering he has no parental supervision.
Im not sure what the legal rights are for OP in this situation.
ITA ! I would be very fearful for my own children
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| Posted 10/29/10 10:30 AM |
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Re: I am so aggravated and appalled.
Posted by headoverheels
It is not likely that he just went to the detention center for a couple of months and then was sent home. He is more than likely on probation which includes mandatory counseling.
I could understand being scared, but aggravated and appalled? How about concerned for his mental health? Should we just lock him up and throw away the key? And what if he is getting counseling, and doing well even - should he be shunned and harassed at school because of his prior history? Whatever happened to second chances? It saddens me that you are so "disgusted."
 If this happened to your child I can guarantee you would not give a HOOT about his mental health . and YES he should be locked up . if he has the capacity to do this to someone he will do it again
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| Posted 10/29/10 10:32 AM |
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Ayne11
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Re: I am so aggravated and appalled.
I have no compassion for this teenager what so ever. Imagine what he could do when he's older.
For Example: most if not all serial killers start off with harming and killing animals then move on to humans when they get older.
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Re: I am so aggravated and appalled.
Posted by headoverheels
It is not likely that he just went to the detention center for a couple of months and then was sent home. He is more than likely on probation which includes mandatory counseling.
I could understand being scared, but aggravated and appalled? How about concerned for his mental health? Should we just lock him up and throw away the key? And what if he is getting counseling, and doing well even - should he be shunned and harassed at school because of his prior history? Whatever happened to second chances? It saddens me that you are so "disgusted."
I don't think rapists deserve a second chance
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Re: I am so aggravated and appalled.
Posted by headoverheels
It is not likely that he just went to the detention center for a couple of months and then was sent home. He is more than likely on probation which includes mandatory counseling.
I could understand being scared, but aggravated and appalled? How about concerned for his mental health? Should we just lock him up and throw away the key? And what if he is getting counseling, and doing well even - should he be shunned and harassed at school because of his prior history? Whatever happened to second chances? It saddens me that you are so "disgusted."
im actually shocked that you said he deserves a second chance... he raped someone... and it was premeditated... he had the sense to use the date rape drug on another child...
im totally agree with the OP shocked and appalled barely scratch the surface for me with this...
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Mommy2Boys
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Re: I am so aggravated and appalled.
OMG...I would be LIVID!!! If this teenager has the ability to pre-meditate and rape another boy as a minor I am terrified what he will do as he gets older. He is obviously very ill and his home situation is not helping.
These are the kinds of cases where they need to be locked up and throw away the key but unfortunately that is not how our f'd up justice system works. In their eyes, he served his time and I'm sure is getting mandatory counseling and probation. I still dont think that is enough.
I feel horrible for the boy it happened to. God help someone if they ever touched or hurt either of my kids like that. He would be MIA!
ETA: The thing that is more troublesome is the school district is so scared to get sued that they are allowing him to participate in activities like football. Just shows how f'd up the world is.
Sorry...this kid belongs permanently locked up in a psych ward.
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Re: I am so aggravated and appalled.
Posted by maybesoon
Posted by Peainapod
OP absolutely has the right to be appalled and disgusted..he drugged and orally raped someone..whats not to be disgusted about??
I would be definitely be concerned for my own children.
For a teen to think of doing that on his own..something is very wrong and I hope he is getting help, considering he has no parental supervision.
Im not sure what the legal rights are for OP in this situation.
ITA ! I would be very fearful for my own children
Completely agree. Yes lock him up and throw away the key.
A 10th grader in my high school raped and sodomized a 11year old. If they had locked him up and thrown away the key, he wouldn't have raped and killed a 28 year old in front of her 4 year old years later.
I'm sorry you have to deal with this. I wonder how Megan's law applies to juveniles. 
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4ForMe
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Re: I am so aggravated and appalled.
Posted by headoverheels
It is not likely that he just went to the detention center for a couple of months and then was sent home. He is more than likely on probation which includes mandatory counseling.
I could understand being scared, but aggravated and appalled? How about concerned for his mental health? Should we just lock him up and throw away the key? And what if he is getting counseling, and doing well even - should he be shunned and harassed at school because of his prior history? Whatever happened to second chances? It saddens me that you are so "disgusted."
I'm sorry but I am disgusted. This kid used to hang around my house and play basketball out front with my kids and my neighbors kids. My neighbor asked he and his brother nicely to leave one day because their mouths were so foul and they mouthed off and totally disrespected him. There's been many instances that have gone on through the years where my neighbor's and I have all tried to put our best foot forward and be kind to them. Without going into details the father isn't exactly a good example. Do I feel sorry for them that they don't have a better family life? Absolutely. But right now my concern is my kids and that this boy is in school and hanging out with kids who's parents have no idea what happened.
This kid also fathered a child in 7th grade.
A lot of my aggravation is at the system. I know he is a minor, but I still think there should be some notification to at least his neighbors, especially on a street full of kids.
I hope he's getting the help he needs so that he doesn't do something like this again.
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Mommy2Boys
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Re: I am so aggravated and appalled.
Posted by nrthshgrl
I'm sorry you have to deal with this. I wonder how Megan's law applies to juveniles.
I would contact your local politicians and get parents involved and in the know. I would not let this go.
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PearlJamChick
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Re: I am so aggravated and appalled.
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Posted by headoverheels
It is not likely that he just went to the detention center for a couple of months and then was sent home. He is more than likely on probation which includes mandatory counseling.
I could understand being scared, but aggravated and appalled? How about concerned for his mental health? Should we just lock him up and throw away the key? And what if he is getting counseling, and doing well even - should he be shunned and harassed at school because of his prior history? Whatever happened to second chances? It saddens me that you are so "disgusted."
I don't think rapists deserve a second chance
Same here.
I feel terrible for the kid this happened to.
I would also be pretty scared if the rapist lived on my block...who knows what else this child...yes, child...is capable of. His description, as the OP gave, shows that he can probably overpower a good portion of the general population. While he is most likely in some intense counseling, that doesn't mean that a) it can't happen again and b) the OP doesn't have a right to be scared for her family.
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Re: I am so aggravated and appalled.
Sorry, but I don't give a rats sass about HIS second chance. He bought a date rape drug, drugged the kid and raped him. This is a minor, what will he be like in 10 years? He had no respect for himself or that CHIlD he raped. He should be in jail, and out of a neighborhood with children. I agree with the op being disgusted with this. It is disgusting. Second chance my asss Should Jeffery dahmer have been given a second chance, or Charles mansion ( yes, extremes but you get the idea).
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Ayne11
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Re: I am so aggravated and appalled.
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Posted by nrthshgrl
I'm sorry you have to deal with this. I wonder how Megan's law applies to juveniles.
I would contact your local politicians and get parents involved and in the know. I would not let this go.
ITA! He's only going to get more violent and aggressive as he get's older.
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headoverheels
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Re: I am so aggravated and appalled.
Sorry, but I DO feel that most people deserve a second chance. Especially minors if they have had little or no direction in their life until this point.
I didn't say that the OP didn't have a "right" to be disgusted, I said it saddened me. Big difference.
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Mommy2Boys
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Re: I am so aggravated and appalled.
Posted by headoverheels
I could understand being scared, but aggravated and appalled? How about concerned for his mental health? Should we just lock him up and throw away the key? And what if he is getting counseling, and doing well even - should he be shunned and harassed at school because of his prior history? Whatever happened to second chances? It saddens me that you are so "disgusted."
What is more aggravating and appalling is how you think a teenager who PRE-MEDITATED a rape of another teenage boy by going out and purchasing a date rape drug, drugging the boy, than raping and sodomizing him deserves a 2nd chance????
Yes, everyone should be concerned about his mental health because IMO this is only an inkling of what this kid is going to be capable of in the future.
ETA: AND your're concerned about the rapist being shunned and harassed at school??? 
What about the boy he raped??? Don't you think everyone looks at him differently? Don't you think he feels embarrassed and may be shunned? Don't you think he will have to live with this for the rest of his life and this could have royally f'd him up mentally????
I FIND IT DISGUSTING THAT YOU ARE MORE CONCERNED WITH THE FEELINGS OF A RAPIST THAN THE FEELING OF A VICTIM!!!!
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MrsKS
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Re: I am so aggravated and appalled.
Posted by Peainapod
OP absolutely has the right to be appalled and disgusted..he drugged and orally raped someone..whats not to be disgusted about??
I would be definitely be concerned for my own children.
For a teen to think of doing that on his own..something is very wrong and I hope he is getting help, considering he has no parental supervision.
Im not sure what the legal rights are for OP in this situation.
ITA as well.
And it's even more disturbing that his victim had to be the one to not play that day!!! HE should have been the one to bow out.. heck he shouldn't even be in that situation to begin with.
I'm appalled!! and disgusted!!
That's tragic and terrible!!!
When I was in MS... this sort of thing NEVER would have crossed my mind to do... something is wrong with that boy and hopefully he is getting help. He may have even been abused himself, who knows... but the bottom line is.. he needs help.
Make sure your boys are alert.
It's a sad shame that the parents are absent... they should be heavily involved in getting him better an fixing whatever is wrong in the first place.
I'm sorry. I'd feel the same way you do!!
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Ayne11
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Re: I am so aggravated and appalled.
1. Targeted his very young victim
2. thought out his whole plan
3. purchased date rape drug
4. went forward with the rape
NO second chance - period.
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MrsKS
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Re: I am so aggravated and appalled.
ITA Jellybean!!!!
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