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I need major sleep advice...maybe CIO?

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DmarieK
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I need major sleep advice...maybe CIO?

I'm having HUGE problems with Rylan and need some advice.

Some of you may remember up until a year old Rylan would be up until at least midnight every night and then wake pretty much hourly. At year old I did CIO and it was a HUGE success. I was able to put him down awake and not see him until morning.

About 5 or 6 months ago he got really sick and started waking up alot at night. Well it's still going on. Luckily I can just walk in...he lies down...I cover him and walk out. Every once in a while he will sleep the whole night...most of the time I am in there between 5 and 20 times.

This is really starting to affect me. I'm having a hard time with Xavier during the day and Rylan at night. I am just misserable day and night now.

Xavier sleeps great at night but the problem is they share a room. I end up sleeping with the monitor at my head so I can run in fast as I can when Rylan calls me so he doesn't wake up Xav. i'm running in all night long.

The only option I can think of is having Xav sleep with me again and attempt CIO again. He's 26 months old...is that even possible to do at his age? He's in a bed so he can get out if he chooses to but has only done it 2 or 3 times the first week in the bed.

I'm so scared of messing with Xaviers sleep by having him in the bed again. I just can't think of anything else to do. What would you do in this situation?

Posted 6/8/10 9:29 PM
 
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Re: I need major sleep advice...maybe CIO?

I would put the baby back in your bed because I think CIO re-training will only take a couple of days and IMO that is not long enough for the baby to develop a bad habit.

Good Luck

Posted 6/9/10 9:21 AM
 

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Re: I need major sleep advice...maybe CIO?

I would def try CIO again for Rylan. We had to do the same thing after Kaydyn got the stomach virus in January.

Can you put Xavier in a pack and play in your room so that he's not sleeping in bed with you and it's almost like the crib?

Kaydyn and Ainsley share a room now and Kaydyn woke up this morning at 5:30 crying and she didn't wake Ainsley up. She was only up for a few mins but maybe it wouldn't effect Xavier if you let Rylan settle himself back down.

Posted 6/9/10 9:28 AM
 

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Re: I need major sleep advice...maybe CIO?

Ugh - I so feel your pain.

DS is 15 months and we had done CIO successfully at 9 months. Well, then he was sick for a little while, we went away to visit family, and he just got used to sleeping next to me. We are attempting to do CIO again this weekend. I made a mediocre attempt a few weeks ago but I gave in to him crying after he made himself throw up Chat Icon

I would put the baby in pack and play in your room for a few nights, and revisit CIO with your son. Hopefully it's not too bad.

Why can't these kids just SLEEP?!?!? Chat Icon

Posted 6/9/10 9:34 AM
 

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Re: I need major sleep advice...maybe CIO?

I have been having this EXACT same problem with DD (minus the second child factor) since March. Literally the same thing....she was a great sleeper at night until she got a nasty cold late-Feb., then the stomach virus and she threw up at least 1x/night for 2 weeks straight after that. We'd go in, change her sheets, give her a sip of water, back to bed.

Literally EVERY night since March she has woken up at least once a night, often it's 2-3 times a night. Chat Icon Chat Icon She wants a sip of water, her blankets fixed, etc. It's SO just habit now, she doesn't truly NEED these things. And, like me, she seems to have a hard time falling back to sleep if she wakes in the middle of the night...so she wants us to come in, get her her cup, etc....we are literally in her room for 1 minute and by the time we close the door again, she's back asleep.

It is SO frustrating. I am freaking exhausted too Chat Icon Chat Icon I joke that when the baby comes we literally are going to be up ALL night between them (and it's not even a joke at this point Chat Icon ).

We also have the bed problem too. We did do CIO one night when she was still in the crib (maybe a month after she was feeling better and there was no reason for her to wake), and it worked great, she whined/cried for 1.5 hours (fake crying) but went to sleep. I think the next night she slept all night. But that was it. And a few weeks later we got her new furniture and she's in a bed. I do NOT want her wandering all over my house so we HAVE to go in there when she wakes up, I don't see any other options. Chat Icon

We have tried it all-- threatening to take things away for the next day (no park, bounce house, specific toy) and she just doesn't care, even when we follow through.

We have also done the positive-reinforcement route of doing a Rewards Chart...each night she sleeps ALL NIGHT w/o waking up, we make a huge deal about it and write on the chart and she gets to put a sticker on it....after 5 stickers, she gets to go to the store and pick out a special gift. Well, let's just say the first date on the chart is April 20th, and we have a total of 9 stickers on the chart as of today, June 9th Chat Icon Chat Icon

She fully remembers how many times she wakes up. Today, I went in and told her she slept well except for when she woke up and asked her how many times she woke up-- she said 1. She definitely knows when she's waking up.

I have no advice since I'm obviously failing big time over here too....hope Rylan snaps out of it soon Chat Icon

Posted 6/9/10 9:42 AM
 

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Re: I need major sleep advice...maybe CIO?

Posted by MrsDrMatt

I would put the baby back in your bed because I think CIO re-training will only take a couple of days and IMO that is not long enough for the baby to develop a bad habit.

Good Luck



That's what I was thinking. I'm soooo scared to do it at this age...ugh.

Posted 6/9/10 10:52 AM
 

DmarieK
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Re: I need major sleep advice...maybe CIO?

Posted by Mkr09

I would def try CIO again for Rylan. We had to do the same thing after Kaydyn got the stomach virus in January.

Can you put Xavier in a pack and play in your room so that he's not sleeping in bed with you and it's almost like the crib?

Kaydyn and Ainsley share a room now and Kaydyn woke up this morning at 5:30 crying and she didn't wake Ainsley up. She was only up for a few mins but maybe it wouldn't effect Xavier if you let Rylan settle himself back down.



He doesn't do well in a pnp or bassinett. He scootches up so high and so fast I would be pulling him back down 100 times a night. That's why he ended up in my bed until we put him in the crib.

Rylan is a huge talker in bed while sleeping and awake. that doesn't wake Xav but him screaming mommy over and over would...lol. He's loud!!

Posted 6/9/10 10:55 AM
 

DmarieK
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Re: I need major sleep advice...maybe CIO?

Posted by Lucky09

Ugh - I so feel your pain.

DS is 15 months and we had done CIO successfully at 9 months. Well, then he was sick for a little while, we went away to visit family, and he just got used to sleeping next to me. We are attempting to do CIO again this weekend. I made a mediocre attempt a few weeks ago but I gave in to him crying after he made himself throw up Chat Icon

I would put the baby in pack and play in your room for a few nights, and revisit CIO with your son. Hopefully it's not too bad.



Why can't these kids just SLEEP?!?!? Chat Icon



Oh boy...luckily Rylan doesn't get sick when he cries...then again he doesn't really cry hard enough to get sick.

Posted 6/9/10 10:59 AM
 

DmarieK
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Re: I need major sleep advice...maybe CIO?

Posted by nbc188

I have been having this EXACT same problem with DD (minus the second child factor) since March. Literally the same thing....she was a great sleeper at night until she got a nasty cold late-Feb., then the stomach virus and she threw up at least 1x/night for 2 weeks straight after that. We'd go in, change her sheets, give her a sip of water, back to bed.

Literally EVERY night since March she has woken up at least once a night, often it's 2-3 times a night. Chat Icon Chat Icon She wants a sip of water, her blankets fixed, etc. It's SO just habit now, she doesn't truly NEED these things. And, like me, she seems to have a hard time falling back to sleep if she wakes in the middle of the night...so she wants us to come in, get her her cup, etc....we are literally in her room for 1 minute and by the time we close the door again, she's back asleep.

It is SO frustrating. I am freaking exhausted too Chat Icon Chat Icon I joke that when the baby comes we literally are going to be up ALL night between them (and it's not even a joke at this point Chat Icon ).

We also have the bed problem too. We did do CIO one night when she was still in the crib (maybe a month after she was feeling better and there was no reason for her to wake), and it worked great, she whined/cried for 1.5 hours (fake crying) but went to sleep. I think the next night she slept all night. But that was it. And a few weeks later we got her new furniture and she's in a bed. I do NOT want her wandering all over my house so we HAVE to go in there when she wakes up, I don't see any other options. Chat Icon

We have tried it all-- threatening to take things away for the next day (no park, bounce house, specific toy) and she just doesn't care, even when we follow through.

We have also done the positive-reinforcement route of doing a Rewards Chart...each night she sleeps ALL NIGHT w/o waking up, we make a huge deal about it and write on the chart and she gets to put a sticker on it....after 5 stickers, she gets to go to the store and pick out a special gift. Well, let's just say the first date on the chart is April 20th, and we have a total of 9 stickers on the chart as of today, June 9th Chat Icon Chat Icon

She fully remembers how many times she wakes up. Today, I went in and told her she slept well except for when she woke up and asked her how many times she woke up-- she said 1. She definitely knows when she's waking up.

I have no advice since I'm obviously failing big time over here too....hope Rylan snaps out of it soon Chat Icon



Rylan doesn't want ANYTHING when this happens. He doesn't want to come out...doesn't want me to stay...doesn't want a drink...NOTHING. It's literally a 2 second thing. I walk in he jumps back down...I put the blanket back on him and walk out. All with a huge smile on his face...it's like a game to him.

I really don't think Rylan would get out of bed. Even if he did we have a small apartment...he would just walk up to my bed. I'm not concerned with him getting into anything.

I feel like CIO is the right thing to do but at this age it scares the sh*t out of me!!!!

Posted 6/9/10 11:04 AM
 

Mkr09
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Re: I need major sleep advice...maybe CIO?

Posted by DmarieK

Posted by nbc188

I have been having this EXACT same problem with DD (minus the second child factor) since March. Literally the same thing....she was a great sleeper at night until she got a nasty cold late-Feb., then the stomach virus and she threw up at least 1x/night for 2 weeks straight after that. We'd go in, change her sheets, give her a sip of water, back to bed.

Literally EVERY night since March she has woken up at least once a night, often it's 2-3 times a night. Chat Icon Chat Icon She wants a sip of water, her blankets fixed, etc. It's SO just habit now, she doesn't truly NEED these things. And, like me, she seems to have a hard time falling back to sleep if she wakes in the middle of the night...so she wants us to come in, get her her cup, etc....we are literally in her room for 1 minute and by the time we close the door again, she's back asleep.

It is SO frustrating. I am freaking exhausted too Chat Icon Chat Icon I joke that when the baby comes we literally are going to be up ALL night between them (and it's not even a joke at this point Chat Icon ).

We also have the bed problem too. We did do CIO one night when she was still in the crib (maybe a month after she was feeling better and there was no reason for her to wake), and it worked great, she whined/cried for 1.5 hours (fake crying) but went to sleep. I think the next night she slept all night. But that was it. And a few weeks later we got her new furniture and she's in a bed. I do NOT want her wandering all over my house so we HAVE to go in there when she wakes up, I don't see any other options. Chat Icon

We have tried it all-- threatening to take things away for the next day (no park, bounce house, specific toy) and she just doesn't care, even when we follow through.

We have also done the positive-reinforcement route of doing a Rewards Chart...each night she sleeps ALL NIGHT w/o waking up, we make a huge deal about it and write on the chart and she gets to put a sticker on it....after 5 stickers, she gets to go to the store and pick out a special gift. Well, let's just say the first date on the chart is April 20th, and we have a total of 9 stickers on the chart as of today, June 9th Chat Icon Chat Icon

She fully remembers how many times she wakes up. Today, I went in and told her she slept well except for when she woke up and asked her how many times she woke up-- she said 1. She definitely knows when she's waking up.

I have no advice since I'm obviously failing big time over here too....hope Rylan snaps out of it soon Chat Icon



Rylan doesn't want ANYTHING when this happens. He doesn't want to come out...doesn't want me to stay...doesn't want a drink...NOTHING. It's literally a 2 second thing. I walk in he jumps back down...I put the blanket back on him and walk out. All with a huge smile on his face...it's like a game to him.

I really don't think Rylan would get out of bed. Even if he did we have a small apartment...he would just walk up to my bed. I'm not concerned with him getting into anything.

I feel like CIO is the right thing to do but at this age it scares the sh*t out of me!!!!



I def think CIO is the best option then. Put Xavier back in your bed for a few days and try it out. Kaydyn is in a toddler bed and she can get out and sometimes she does, but most times she just cries for a few mins and goes back to sleep. We keep the door to her room closed though because if she was to wander around our apt it would be too dangerous.

Posted 6/9/10 11:17 AM
 
 

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