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Ophelia
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I want to ask a question re: all of the press coverage
on the VA shooting.
Why are they interviewing all of the victims parents? I think Wolf Blitzer and every other anchor looks and sounds OBSURD asking a mourning parent/relative/friend How they are doing? etc.
why, as a people, do we want to see their grief?
and, why now, are we looking so closely at the perpetrator...trying to figure out the why's...and the Oh, we should have known he was a time bomb b/c of A, B, & C.
the same thing was done after Columbine...and nothing has changed.
what good does it do delving into his life..the life of his victims? or rather, what good can come out of it?
it is heartbreaking...DEFINITELY. but all of this hoopla will not stop this from happening again.
the focus, IMO, should not be "why did this kid snap" there will be people that snap as long as there are people...
the idea should be to not have weapons of mass murder available to these kids. to people.
If ever the Constitution needed to be changed, my vote is for the "right to bear arms" we have a right to be protected with arms, but wehave surrogates for that now (police dept, national guard, military)
we are no longer defenders of our "keep" and you can buy fresh meat at Pathmark.
I think it is obscene that this kid walked into a store and walked out with a gun.
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Re: I want to ask a question re: all of the press coverage
Because the news wants ratings and unfortunately people tune in to see that kind of crap...why is it when tragedys strike the news has its highest ratings ever?
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Re: I want to ask a question re: all of the press coverage
I agee, however every one of those parents can decide not to be interviewed.
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Re: I want to ask a question re: all of the press coverage
this is why I am not watching most of the coverage. the media = vultures! 
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| Posted 4/19/07 11:13 AM |
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Re: I want to ask a question re: all of the press coverage
I personaly never understood when a family member gets on tv right after a child or relative has been killed etc. IMO - I'd be WAY too distraught to even think about doing an interview on TV.
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Re: I want to ask a question re: all of the press coverage
Posted by Ophelia
the idea should be to not have weapons of mass murder available to these kids. to people.
If ever the Constitution needed to be changed, my vote is for the "right to bear arms" we have a right to be protected with arms, but wehave surrogates for that now (police dept, national guard, military)
we are no longer defenders of our "keep" and you can buy fresh meat at Pathmark.
I think it is obscene that this kid walked into a store and walked out with a gun.
I agree with all of this.
Regarding all of the news about why Cho did it, his psychological history, etc., I think it is very natural for people to be curious. I am one of the people who watch all the coverage. I am very interested from a professional standpoint, and I think it also makes the nation more aware of mental health issues. True, if nothing changes, it does seem somewhat pointless.
As far as the victims' families, I know that if I were in their shoes (g-d forbid), I would NOT want to be interviewed. What actually interests me is why people allow their grief to be shown to the entire world. I am interested in reading about the victims, but I think the media should leave the families alone.
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Re: I want to ask a question re: all of the press coverage
My brain is a little fired to get into this whole discussion....
What I will say is that I find it absolutely RIDICULOUS to have all 3 major morning shows setting up shop on this campus. Its BS
I think nothing more could hurt our society than releasing those tapes. We have now idolized this person and his actions. What these tapes contribute is nothing good or positive. It just promotes this IMO
Finally, this situation should make us all explore the importance and legitimacy of mental health. Mental health is often ignored.
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Re: I want to ask a question re: all of the press coverage
I actually cringed this morning listening to the news where they called him "The most famous mass murderer of our century"
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| Posted 4/19/07 11:23 AM |
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Ophelia
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Re: I want to ask a question re: all of the press coverage
Posted by chikita315
I actually cringed this morning listening to the news where they called him "The most famous mass murderer of our century"
the worst worst part of that is...some other socio/psychopath will hear that and be encouraged by it.
I hate the press.
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Re: I want to ask a question re: all of the press coverage
honestly, I hate it all. It was a terrible, horrible event that I heard enough of when it was happening. I don't even watch the news right now because I can't stand hearing more about it. Maybe I am being naive, but seeing the video and photos of that guy, and all the crying relatives and friends is not something I want to see. I didn't even know about the video until the news happened to come on last night and I didn't change the channel fast enough.
I don't even think it was right to share all that with the public.
I am not sure why as a society, we are enthralled with death and destruction.
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Re: I want to ask a question re: all of the press coverage
Posted by Ophelia
the same thing was done after Columbine...and nothing has changed.
the focus, IMO, should not be "why did this kid snap" there will be people that snap as long as there are people...
the idea should be to not have weapons of mass murder available to these kids. to people.
If ever the Constitution needed to be changed, my vote is for the "right to bear arms" we have a right to be protected with arms, but wehave surrogates for that now (police dept, national guard, military)
I think the focus SHOULD be on the killer and his motives rather than stricter gun laws. This kid was sent to a mental institution but was still able to live in a dorm and attend school. He should have been locked up a long time ago and everyone who knew it bears some responsibility.
Our society is too liberal in that they didn't want to hurt this guy's feelings by locking him up - it might have violated his civil rights. Well, how about the civil rights of the victims? How about their right to go to German class without getting their heads blown off?
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Ophelia
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Re: I want to ask a question re: all of the press coverage
Posted by Kate
Posted by Ophelia
the same thing was done after Columbine...and nothing has changed.
the focus, IMO, should not be "why did this kid snap" there will be people that snap as long as there are people...
the idea should be to not have weapons of mass murder available to these kids. to people.
If ever the Constitution needed to be changed, my vote is for the "right to bear arms" we have a right to be protected with arms, but wehave surrogates for that now (police dept, national guard, military)
I think the focus SHOULD be on the killer and his motives rather than stricter gun laws. This kid was sent to a mental institution but was still able to live in a dorm and attend school. He should have been locked up a long time ago and everyone who knew it bears some responsibility.
Our society is too liberal in that they didn't want to hurt this guy's feelings by locking him up - it might have violated his civil rights. Well, how about the civil rights of the victims? How about their right to go to German class without getting their heads blown off?
do you know anything at all about mentail illness? I ask b/c if you did, you'd know that sometimes you can't just "lock people up". It depends upon many factors.
whether he was locked up or not, without WEAPONS, he could not have killed anyone..or atleast, not as many. it's not easy to kill someone with your bare hands.
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Re: I want to ask a question re: all of the press coverage
Posted by SweetestOfPeas
this is why I am not watching most of the coverage. the media = vultures!
ITA. I won't watch it. Sorry but the fact that the media is allowed to be a profitable entity tickes me off on a normal day, but when it is something like this it angers me even more.
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Re: I want to ask a question re: all of the press coverage
One word: Sensationalism.
I'm turned off by the media and how they fight for ratings.
I never watch the news and I barely glance at the cover of the newspapers these days.
It's a shame b/c I KNOW I'm missing out on important events in our world today.
Tell me, what news shows report the facts and nothing but the facts?
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Kate
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Re: I want to ask a question re: all of the press coverage
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Posted by Ophelia
the same thing was done after Columbine...and nothing has changed.
the focus, IMO, should not be "why did this kid snap" there will be people that snap as long as there are people...
the idea should be to not have weapons of mass murder available to these kids. to people.
If ever the Constitution needed to be changed, my vote is for the "right to bear arms" we have a right to be protected with arms, but wehave surrogates for that now (police dept, national guard, military)
I think the focus SHOULD be on the killer and his motives rather than stricter gun laws. This kid was sent to a mental institution but was still able to live in a dorm and attend school. He should have been locked up a long time ago and everyone who knew it bears some responsibility.
Our society is too liberal in that they didn't want to hurt this guy's feelings by locking him up - it might have violated his civil rights. Well, how about the civil rights of the victims? How about their right to go to German class without getting their heads blown off?
do you know anything at all about mentail illness? I ask b/c if you did, you'd know that sometimes you can't just "lock people up". It depends upon many factors.
whether he was locked up or not, without WEAPONS, he could not have killed anyone..or atleast, not as many. it's not easy to kill someone with your bare hands.
How about the 'factor' that he was determined to be a threat to himself and others? If that is not a reason to lock someone up, I don't know what is.
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Re: I want to ask a question re: all of the press coverage
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Posted by Ophelia
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Posted by Ophelia
the same thing was done after Columbine...and nothing has changed.
the focus, IMO, should not be "why did this kid snap" there will be people that snap as long as there are people...
the idea should be to not have weapons of mass murder available to these kids. to people.
If ever the Constitution needed to be changed, my vote is for the "right to bear arms" we have a right to be protected with arms, but wehave surrogates for that now (police dept, national guard, military)
I think the focus SHOULD be on the killer and his motives rather than stricter gun laws. This kid was sent to a mental institution but was still able to live in a dorm and attend school. He should have been locked up a long time ago and everyone who knew it bears some responsibility.
Our society is too liberal in that they didn't want to hurt this guy's feelings by locking him up - it might have violated his civil rights. Well, how about the civil rights of the victims? How about their right to go to German class without getting their heads blown off?
do you know anything at all about mentail illness? I ask b/c if you did, you'd know that sometimes you can't just "lock people up". It depends upon many factors.
whether he was locked up or not, without WEAPONS, he could not have killed anyone..or atleast, not as many. it's not easy to kill someone with your bare hands.
How about the 'factor' that he was determined to be a threat to himself and others? If that is not a reason to lock someone up, I don't know what is.
What I heard this morning was that in 2005, he was found to be a threat to himself and others, was briefly in a psychiatric hospital, and released when it was determined that he was no longer a threat. Due to insurance reasons, psychiatric hospitalizations are generally short-term, and are used mainly as an opportunity to prescribe and adjust medications. I don't know if he was prescribed meds or not, but it is clear that he did not follow up with any mental health services after, and unfortunately, there's no way to force an adult to comply with services.
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Re: I want to ask a question re: all of the press coverage
Posted by Kate
I think the focus SHOULD be on the killer and his motives rather than stricter gun laws. This kid was sent to a mental institution but was still able to live in a dorm and attend school. He should have been locked up a long time ago and everyone who knew it bears some responsibility.
I understand your outrage, but that's a very slippery slope.
Read past posts these boards. There are lots of posters who have had or know someone who has had depression and anxiety issues to a dangerous point.
To say that ANYONE who has been in a mental institution or has had mental issues needs to be locked up is like saying no one ever recovers from that, when LOTS of people do.
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Ophelia
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Re: I want to ask a question re: all of the press coverage
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Posted by Ophelia
the same thing was done after Columbine...and nothing has changed.
the focus, IMO, should not be "why did this kid snap" there will be people that snap as long as there are people...
the idea should be to not have weapons of mass murder available to these kids. to people.
If ever the Constitution needed to be changed, my vote is for the "right to bear arms" we have a right to be protected with arms, but wehave surrogates for that now (police dept, national guard, military)
I think the focus SHOULD be on the killer and his motives rather than stricter gun laws. This kid was sent to a mental institution but was still able to live in a dorm and attend school. He should have been locked up a long time ago and everyone who knew it bears some responsibility.
Our society is too liberal in that they didn't want to hurt this guy's feelings by locking him up - it might have violated his civil rights. Well, how about the civil rights of the victims? How about their right to go to German class without getting their heads blown off?
do you know anything at all about mentail illness? I ask b/c if you did, you'd know that sometimes you can't just "lock people up". It depends upon many factors.
whether he was locked up or not, without WEAPONS, he could not have killed anyone..or atleast, not as many. it's not easy to kill someone with your bare hands.
How about the 'factor' that he was determined to be a threat to himself and others? If that is not a reason to lock someone up, I don't know what is.
Okaayyyy...so your "solution" to this problem is, rather than remove lethal weapons from the hands of people, to lock up all of the mentally disturbed people in the US that are found to be potential threats to themself and to others?
so, you'd throw out the ENTIRE bill of rights, rather than adjusting our constitution in ONE instance, to fit the changing needs of our society?
interesting.
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Re: I want to ask a question re: all of the press coverage
Posted by leighla
I understand your outrage, but that's a very slippery slope.
Read past posts these boards. There are lots of posters who have had or know someone who has had depression and anxiety issues to a dangerous point.
To say that ANYONE who has been in a mental institution or has had mental issues needs to be locked up is like saying no one ever recovers from that, when LOTS of people do.
I do not think that everyone who has mental issues should be locked up. I think that anyone shown to be a danger to others should be kept away from law-abiding, innocent citizens, who have rights of their own.
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Re: I want to ask a question re: all of the press coverage
Posted by Ophelia
[Okaayyyy...so your "solution" to this problem is, rather than remove lethal weapons from the hands of people, to lock up all of the mentally disturbed people in the US that are found to be potential threats to themself and to others?
so, you'd throw out the ENTIRE bill of rights, rather than adjusting our constitution in ONE instance, to fit the changing needs of our society?
interesting.
What about the victim's rights?
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Re: I want to ask a question re: all of the press coverage
Posted by Ophelia
on the VA shooting.
Why are they interviewing all of the victims parents? I think Wolf Blitzer and every other anchor looks and sounds OBSURD asking a mourning parent/relative/friend How they are doing? etc.
why, as a people, do we want to see their grief?
My question is more... why are these people agreeing to being interviewed after their child was just killed in the largest masacre in this country??
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Re: I want to ask a question re: all of the press coverage
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Posted by Kate
Posted by Ophelia
the same thing was done after Columbine...and nothing has changed.
the focus, IMO, should not be "why did this kid snap" there will be people that snap as long as there are people...
the idea should be to not have weapons of mass murder available to these kids. to people.
If ever the Constitution needed to be changed, my vote is for the "right to bear arms" we have a right to be protected with arms, but wehave surrogates for that now (police dept, national guard, military)
I think the focus SHOULD be on the killer and his motives rather than stricter gun laws. This kid was sent to a mental institution but was still able to live in a dorm and attend school. He should have been locked up a long time ago and everyone who knew it bears some responsibility.
Our society is too liberal in that they didn't want to hurt this guy's feelings by locking him up - it might have violated his civil rights. Well, how about the civil rights of the victims? How about their right to go to German class without getting their heads blown off?
do you know anything at all about mentail illness? I ask b/c if you did, you'd know that sometimes you can't just "lock people up". It depends upon many factors.
whether he was locked up or not, without WEAPONS, he could not have killed anyone..or atleast, not as many. it's not easy to kill someone with your bare hands.
I agree with Ophelia--anyone working with college students or the mentally ill knows that that view is just incorrect. You cannot keep the mentally ill looked up forever. You cannot keep everyone who commits a violent crime locked up forever. It's just not possible. With the mentally ill you work to get them stable with counseling or medication, but there is not enough room to institutionalize everyone showing some degree of mental illness. It's not "hurting his feelings" by keeping him locked up.
Newsflash, on college campuses all over there are students who have been in jail, students who are mentally ill, and students who have diseases. It's a fact of life.
And I agree, I have no idea why the families of the victims AGREE to go on TV.
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Re: I want to ask a question re: all of the press coverage
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Posted by Ophelia
[Okaayyyy...so your "solution" to this problem is, rather than remove lethal weapons from the hands of people, to lock up all of the mentally disturbed people in the US that are found to be potential threats to themself and to others?
so, you'd throw out the ENTIRE bill of rights, rather than adjusting our constitution in ONE instance, to fit the changing needs of our society?
interesting.
What about the victim's rights?
But if the gun solution were more effective, there would be fewer victims, no?
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Re: I want to ask a question re: all of the press coverage
Newsflash, on college campuses all over there are students who have been in jail, students who are mentally ill, and students who have diseases. It's a fact of life.
ITA and unfortunately it's not just in colleges, how many times has someone walked into their place of employmentor a fast food place, and killed innocent people. It's everywhere and it's scary.
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Re: I want to ask a question re: all of the press coverage
Posted by CoopersMom01
Posted by Ophelia
on the VA shooting.
Why are they interviewing all of the victims parents? I think Wolf Blitzer and every other anchor looks and sounds OBSURD asking a mourning parent/relative/friend How they are doing? etc.
why, as a people, do we want to see their grief?
My question is more... why are these people agreeing to being interviewed after their child was just killed in the largest masacre in this country??
I think if I lost someone I loved, and if some cameraman and/or reporter got in my face and started asking me questions, I want to Punch Them In the Face!! "How do you feel?" How the frig do you think I feel, azzhole??
I know these people are agreeing to be interviewed, but I'd be so angry at the thought of some tv show using my grief to boost ratings.
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