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soontobemommyof2
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Interesting article...
Previous Covid Prevents Delta Infection Better Than Pfizer Shot
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ChilisWife
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Re: Interesting article...
I read something similar today about how since the shot is not as effective as we hoped against mutations, it appears that herd immunity can only be achieved through natural infection.
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| Posted 8/28/21 8:34 PM |
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PhyllisNJoe
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Re: Interesting article...
I read this earlier today. Felt hopeful I’d be protected through this winter 
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| Posted 8/28/21 8:36 PM |
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ali120206
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Re: Interesting article...
Posted by ChilisWife
I read something similar today about how since the shot is not as effective as we hoped against mutations, it appears that herd immunity can only be achieved through natural infection.
As the number of vaccine mandates continue to increase…
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| Posted 8/28/21 9:10 PM |
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jellybean78
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Re: Interesting article...
Posted by ali120206
Posted by ChilisWife
I read something similar today about how since the shot is not as effective as we hoped against mutations, it appears that herd immunity can only be achieved through natural infection.
As the number of vaccine mandates continue to increase…
That is bat shiiit crazy to me considering how many vaxxinated are getting and spreading COVID. I mean common sense should prove that natural immunity is the best measure against future COVID infections.
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| Posted 8/28/21 9:32 PM |
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ali120206
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Re: Interesting article...
Posted by jellybean78
Posted by ali120206
Posted by ChilisWife
I read something similar today about how since the shot is not as effective as we hoped against mutations, it appears that herd immunity can only be achieved through natural infection.
As the number of vaccine mandates continue to increase…
That is bat shiiit crazy to me considering how many vaxxinated are getting and spreading COVID. I mean common sense should prove that natural immunity is the best measure against future COVID infections.
I’m thinking the reason is that cases should be less severe if vaccinated.
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| Posted 8/28/21 10:25 PM |
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ChilisWife
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Re: Interesting article...
Meanwhile, the vaccinated are the ones that are spreading it because they have the most viral load and DO NOT KNOW because their symptoms are suppressed. We are living in bizarro world.
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| Posted 8/29/21 12:06 AM |
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3girls1dog
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Re: Interesting article...
Posted by ChilisWife
I read something similar today about how since the shot is not as effective as we hoped against mutations, it appears that herd immunity can only be achieved through natural infection.
But I don't understand why they don't take into account that people have the antibioses and don't need the shot. Was responded to yesterday as they don't know how long the antibioses last, but not for nothing they don't know how long the vaccine lasts either.
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| Posted 8/29/21 7:34 AM |
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PhyllisNJoe
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Re: Interesting article...
Posted by ali120206
Posted by jellybean78
Posted by ali120206
Posted by ChilisWife
I read something similar today about how since the shot is not as effective as we hoped against mutations, it appears that herd immunity can only be achieved through natural infection.
As the number of vaccine mandates continue to increase…
That is bat shiiit crazy to me considering how many vaxxinated are getting and spreading COVID. I mean common sense should prove that natural immunity is the best measure against future COVID infections.
I’m thinking the reason is that cases should be less severe if vaccinated.
This is my understanding as well.
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| Posted 8/29/21 7:39 AM |
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mommy2be716
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Interesting article...
did anyone read the whole article? no?
"Giving a single shot of the vaccine to those who had been previously infected also appeared to boost their protection."
Here is the article on that, because it originated from Science magazine. Bloomberg just rephrased it and took out alot of the details...
Science Mag
"The researchers also found that people who had SARS-CoV-2 previously and received one dose of the Pfizer-BioNTech messenger RNA (mRNA) vaccine were more highly protected against reinfection than those who once had the virus and were still unvaccinated. The new work could inform discussion of whether previously infected people need to receive both doses of the Pfizer-BioNTech vaccine or the similar mRNA vaccine from Moderna. Vaccine mandates don’t necessarily exempt those who had a SARS-CoV-2 infection already and the current U.S. recommendation is that they be fully vaccinated, which means two mRNA doses or one of the J&J adenovirus-based vaccine."
Message edited 8/29/2021 7:55:50 AM.
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Katareen
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Re: Interesting article...
Posted by ali120206
Posted by jellybean78
Posted by ali120206
Posted by ChilisWife
I read something similar today about how since the shot is not as effective as we hoped against mutations, it appears that herd immunity can only be achieved through natural infection.
As the number of vaccine mandates continue to increase…
That is bat shiiit crazy to me considering how many vaxxinated are getting and spreading COVID. I mean common sense should prove that natural immunity is the best measure against future COVID infections.
I’m thinking the reason is that cases should be less severe if vaccinated.
This is absolutely the reason. The vaccine is meant to keep you out of the hospital and keep you out of a casket.
The ICU’s that have run out of beds are not filled with vaccinated people.
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| Posted 8/29/21 10:33 AM |
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danielle3203
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Re: Interesting article...
Posted by ChilisWife
I read something similar today about how since the shot is not as effective as we hoped against mutations, it appears that herd immunity can only be achieved through natural infection.
I have been saying this from day one! natural immunity is always better then anything else. that is what our bodies are made to do. After infection the body always has a better response to mutations of the virus. Also as a virus mutates it becomes more contagious but less deadly.
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| Posted 8/29/21 10:44 AM |
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danielle3203
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Re: Interesting article...
Posted by ali120206
Posted by jellybean78
Posted by ali120206
Posted by ChilisWife
I read something similar today about how since the shot is not as effective as we hoped against mutations, it appears that herd immunity can only be achieved through natural infection.
As the number of vaccine mandates continue to increase…
That is bat shiiit crazy to me considering how many vaxxinated are getting and spreading COVID. I mean common sense should prove that natural immunity is the best measure against future COVID infections.
I’m thinking the reason is that cases should be less severe if vaccinated.
but who is to say how someones body is going to react to a virus, not everyone is going to have a severe reaction. I know many people that had it and were find within 2-4 days. Also People are dying from covid that also had the vax.
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| Posted 8/29/21 10:48 AM |
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Katareen
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Re: Interesting article...
Posted by danielle3203
Posted by ali120206
Posted by jellybean78
Posted by ali120206
Posted by ChilisWife
I read something similar today about how since the shot is not as effective as we hoped against mutations, it appears that herd immunity can only be achieved through natural infection.
As the number of vaccine mandates continue to increase…
That is bat shiiit crazy to me considering how many vaxxinated are getting and spreading COVID. I mean common sense should prove that natural immunity is the best measure against future COVID infections.
I’m thinking the reason is that cases should be less severe if vaccinated.
but who is to say how someones body is going to react to a virus, not everyone is going to have a severe reaction. I know many people that had it and were find within 2-4 days. Also People are dying from covid that also had the vax.
COVID is leaps and bounds deadlier than the chickenpox…and nobody seems to have a problem giving their kids the chickenpox vaccine.
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| Posted 8/29/21 11:09 AM |
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Christine2
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Re: Interesting article...
I'm not sure about the purpose of this post. Obviously natural immunity is helpful against future infection. But if you have not been infected, a vaccine is a good source of anitbodies against potential infection. The vaccine is supposed to boost your immunity against infection (esp if you have never been exposed) What is the point of of this post/article? To say that previously infected do not need the vaccine?
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Re: Interesting article...
Posted by Katareen
Posted by danielle3203
Posted by ali120206
Posted by jellybean78
Posted by ali120206
Posted by ChilisWife
I read something similar today about how since the shot is not as effective as we hoped against mutations, it appears that herd immunity can only be achieved through natural infection.
As the number of vaccine mandates continue to increase…
That is bat shiiit crazy to me considering how many vaxxinated are getting and spreading COVID. I mean common sense should prove that natural immunity is the best measure against future COVID infections.
I’m thinking the reason is that cases should be less severe if vaccinated.
but who is to say how someones body is going to react to a virus, not everyone is going to have a severe reaction. I know many people that had it and were find within 2-4 days. Also People are dying from covid that also had the vax.
COVID is leaps and bounds deadlier than the chickenpox…and nobody seems to have a problem giving their kids the chickenpox vaccine.
The chickenpox vaccine has been around 26 years and proven to be effective.
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ali120206
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Re: Interesting article...
Posted by Katareen
Posted by ali120206
Posted by jellybean78
Posted by ali120206
Posted by ChilisWife
I read something similar today about how since the shot is not as effective as we hoped against mutations, it appears that herd immunity can only be achieved through natural infection.
As the number of vaccine mandates continue to increase…
That is bat shiiit crazy to me considering how many vaxxinated are getting and spreading COVID. I mean common sense should prove that natural immunity is the best measure against future COVID infections.
I’m thinking the reason is that cases should be less severe if vaccinated.
This is absolutely the reason. The vaccine is meant to keep you out of the hospital and keep you out of a casket.
The ICU’s that have run out of beds are not filled with vaccinated people.
But vaccinated people are still ending up in the ICU. Our friend and his extended family just contracted Covid - in NY (not in Florida or anything). They were all vaccinated. Those who were vaccinated and had covid fared ok - two of the others ended up in the ICU…
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Posted by ali120206
Posted by Katareen
Posted by ali120206
Posted by jellybean78
Posted by ali120206
Posted by ChilisWife
I read something similar today about how since the shot is not as effective as we hoped against mutations, it appears that herd immunity can only be achieved through natural infection.
As the number of vaccine mandates continue to increase…
That is bat shiiit crazy to me considering how many vaxxinated are getting and spreading COVID. I mean common sense should prove that natural immunity is the best measure against future COVID infections.
I’m thinking the reason is that cases should be less severe if vaccinated.
This is absolutely the reason. The vaccine is meant to keep you out of the hospital and keep you out of a casket.
The ICU’s that have run out of beds are not filled with vaccinated people.
But vaccinated people are still ending up in the ICU. Our friend and his extended family just contracted Covid - in NY (not in Florida or anything). They were all vaccinated. Those who were vaccinated and had covid fared ok - two of the others ended up in the ICU…
Exactly as a friend of mine, her husband's co-worker, who is vaccinated, is on a vent in the hospital.
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Katareen
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Re: Interesting article...
Posted by ali120206
Posted by Katareen
Posted by ali120206
Posted by jellybean78
Posted by ali120206
Posted by ChilisWife
I read something similar today about how since the shot is not as effective as we hoped against mutations, it appears that herd immunity can only be achieved through natural infection.
As the number of vaccine mandates continue to increase…
That is bat shiiit crazy to me considering how many vaxxinated are getting and spreading COVID. I mean common sense should prove that natural immunity is the best measure against future COVID infections.
I’m thinking the reason is that cases should be less severe if vaccinated.
This is absolutely the reason. The vaccine is meant to keep you out of the hospital and keep you out of a casket.
The ICU’s that have run out of beds are not filled with vaccinated people.
But vaccinated people are still ending up in the ICU. Our friend and his extended family just contracted Covid - in NY (not in Florida or anything). They were all vaccinated. Those who were vaccinated and had covid fared ok - two of the others ended up in the ICU…
Ok—but 95% of those in the ICU are unvaccinated. That is a HUGE difference.
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Posted by Katareen
Posted by ali120206
Posted by Katareen
Posted by ali120206
Posted by jellybean78
Posted by ali120206
Posted by ChilisWife
I read something similar today about how since the shot is not as effective as we hoped against mutations, it appears that herd immunity can only be achieved through natural infection.
As the number of vaccine mandates continue to increase…
That is bat shiiit crazy to me considering how many vaxxinated are getting and spreading COVID. I mean common sense should prove that natural immunity is the best measure against future COVID infections.
I’m thinking the reason is that cases should be less severe if vaccinated.
This is absolutely the reason. The vaccine is meant to keep you out of the hospital and keep you out of a casket.
The ICU’s that have run out of beds are not filled with vaccinated people.
But vaccinated people are still ending up in the ICU. Our friend and his extended family just contracted Covid - in NY (not in Florida or anything). They were all vaccinated. Those who were vaccinated and had covid fared ok - two of the others ended up in the ICU…
Ok—but 95% of those in the ICU are unvaccinated. That is a HUGE difference.
So they say. How many who test positive are vaccinated? They won’t tell us that.
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NervousNell
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Re: Interesting article...
Posted by windyweather21
Posted by Katareen
Posted by danielle3203
Posted by ali120206
Posted by jellybean78
Posted by ali120206
Posted by ChilisWife
I read something similar today about how since the shot is not as effective as we hoped against mutations, it appears that herd immunity can only be achieved through natural infection.
As the number of vaccine mandates continue to increase…
That is bat shiiit crazy to me considering how many vaxxinated are getting and spreading COVID. I mean common sense should prove that natural immunity is the best measure against future COVID infections.
I’m thinking the reason is that cases should be less severe if vaccinated.
but who is to say how someones body is going to react to a virus, not everyone is going to have a severe reaction. I know many people that had it and were find within 2-4 days. Also People are dying from covid that also had the vax.
COVID is leaps and bounds deadlier than the chickenpox…and nobody seems to have a problem giving their kids the chickenpox vaccine.
The chickenpox vaccine has been around 26 years and proven to be effective.
Ding, ding, ding.
Also how deadly is Covid in children?
I'm sure chicken pox can be deadly in some children as well. Is it really leaps and bounds deadlier?
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RainyDay
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Re: Interesting article...
Should be implies it's not definite. Just like you can't guarantee that someone won't end up with permanent injury or death from getting the vaccine. No one should be forced into getting something g they aren't comfortable getting.
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Katareen
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Re: Interesting article...
Posted by windyweather21
Posted by Katareen
Posted by danielle3203
Posted by ali120206
Posted by jellybean78
Posted by ali120206
Posted by ChilisWife
I read something similar today about how since the shot is not as effective as we hoped against mutations, it appears that herd immunity can only be achieved through natural infection.
As the number of vaccine mandates continue to increase…
That is bat shiiit crazy to me considering how many vaxxinated are getting and spreading COVID. I mean common sense should prove that natural immunity is the best measure against future COVID infections.
I’m thinking the reason is that cases should be less severe if vaccinated.
but who is to say how someones body is going to react to a virus, not everyone is going to have a severe reaction. I know many people that had it and were find within 2-4 days. Also People are dying from covid that also had the vax.
COVID is leaps and bounds deadlier than the chickenpox…and nobody seems to have a problem giving their kids the chickenpox vaccine.
The chickenpox vaccine has been around 26 years and proven to be effective.
Effective against a virus that is rarely deadly.
And when it was first mandated it wasn’t around for 26 years. It was new.
I’m sure more people have died of COVID in the last 18 months than people who have died from chickenpox ever.
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Posted by Katareen
Posted by windyweather21
Posted by Katareen
Posted by danielle3203
Posted by ali120206
Posted by jellybean78
Posted by ali120206
Posted by ChilisWife
I read something similar today about how since the shot is not as effective as we hoped against mutations, it appears that herd immunity can only be achieved through natural infection.
As the number of vaccine mandates continue to increase…
That is bat shiiit crazy to me considering how many vaxxinated are getting and spreading COVID. I mean common sense should prove that natural immunity is the best measure against future COVID infections.
I’m thinking the reason is that cases should be less severe if vaccinated.
but who is to say how someones body is going to react to a virus, not everyone is going to have a severe reaction. I know many people that had it and were find within 2-4 days. Also People are dying from covid that also had the vax.
COVID is leaps and bounds deadlier than the chickenpox…and nobody seems to have a problem giving their kids the chickenpox vaccine.
The chickenpox vaccine has been around 26 years and proven to be effective.
Effective against a virus that is rarely deadly.
And when it was first mandated it wasn’t around for 26 years. It was new.
I’m sure more people have died of COVID in the last 18 months than people who have died from chickenpox ever.
Many are dying WITH the vaccine and covid vaccine was compared to the chickenpox that parents was willing to give it to their kids. Unless you are speaking of parents of kids who are adults now. I don't think many posters here have kids that old.
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If vaccinated people can transmit Covid, same as unvaccinated, why do people care if someone is vaccinated or not?? Does it mean less when a vaccinated person gets Covid from a vaccinated person? Vaccinated people are so protected why do you care if an unvaccinated person that you dont know ends up in the hospital.
This whole unvaccinated people are the reason its spreading and mutating is ********. It's the fact that the vaccine is not working like it was intended with the exception of mild symptoms. People need to stop arguing about the wrong thing and demand the pharma industry who is making billions off this, fix their damn vaccine and work on better treatment. Put the onus on the right person.
It's so ridiculous the stupidity I hear on both sides over this, while, the Pharma execs are sitting in their offices planning their next trip on their private jets.
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