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Re: Iowa governor signs controversial law shortening early and Election Day voting
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It's almost as if some people are unaware of the voter suppression problem we have in this country.
I'm also not understanding why anyone thinks election results are suppose to be definitive on election night. Where did anyone get the idea that the election must be decided on one night? It's not how things EVER worked, states have their own voting rules and counting votes takes time.
Lastly, I'll say this until I'm blue in the face, this is the 21st century, the notion that one MUST show up in person to vote is so outdated and archaic. Every American should have the option to vote in whatever manner works best for them whether that be in person, by ballot or otherwise. The easier we make it to vote, the more people that will vote but we all know that's not what politicians want. Insisting that everyone must vote in person is just another form of voter suppression. I hope at some point there is online voting in addition to in person and mail in/drop off ballots. Time to change with the times.
ETA - I totally agree with Golden, Election Day should be a national holiday.
Just look at all the unemployment fraud going on bc you don’t have to file IN PERSON. Until we can get a more secure way, I just can’t get on board with all these other ways of voting. Im all for weeklong in-person voting. Anything more is risky as a voter because a lot can change leading up to Election Day.
And yet, this election was deemed very secure and there still has been NO evidence to date of ANY fraud or wrongdoing.
I personally know people who requested ballots and sent them in for elderly family members. There is no evidence bc you can’t prove it. I bet if you look at track records there were a lot of voters 80 plus who haven’t voted in years and ‘voted’ this election.
I hate when anyone tries to prove their point with anecdotal evidence because it's meaningless. Trump filed over 60 lawsuits and spent MONTHS trying to prove fraud and was continually unsuccessful because there was NO evidence. At some point you have to believe the facts, the facts have repeatedly shown that this was a safe and fair election.
We just can’t believe that 80 million people would have voted for him. When will he be allowed to take questions?
Funny, because MOST people can't understand why anyone would vote for an inept, unqualified, washed up reality star. TWICE no less. Sad.
ETA - Conspiracy theories aren't facts. 
So when will he be allowed to answer questions?
Who cares? Seriously. Who cares. Trump took questions and look how swimmingly that went. He sounded like a bumbling imbecile every time he spoke so I'm not sure why this is such a big thing for you.
The way I see it, Biden is doing his job. His press secretary holds daily briefings to inform the public. He isn't spending every waking minute on Twitter like a hormone enraged tween and even better, he isn't a media whore. He's not calling people names, ridiculing everyone around him and embarrassing the $hit out of this country. But my favorite part, he's surrounded by a competent and qualified cabinet and they are working hard to get things done.
Him taking or not taking questions is pretty low on my "give a crap" list. He's ten times the president Trump ever was even on his worst day.
I think you are missing the point. They.won’t.LET him. That worries most but I guess he is much better than Trump according to you even though he can’t even take questions without help. Gotcha.
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Re: Iowa governor signs controversial law shortening early and Election Day voting
Posted by Valentinesbaby73
Posted by Hofstra26
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Posted by Hofstra26
Posted by Valentinesbaby73
Posted by Hofstra26
Posted by LittleDiva
Posted by Hofstra26
Posted by LittleDiva
Posted by Hofstra26
It's almost as if some people are unaware of the voter suppression problem we have in this country.
I'm also not understanding why anyone thinks election results are suppose to be definitive on election night. Where did anyone get the idea that the election must be decided on one night? It's not how things EVER worked, states have their own voting rules and counting votes takes time.
Lastly, I'll say this until I'm blue in the face, this is the 21st century, the notion that one MUST show up in person to vote is so outdated and archaic. Every American should have the option to vote in whatever manner works best for them whether that be in person, by ballot or otherwise. The easier we make it to vote, the more people that will vote but we all know that's not what politicians want. Insisting that everyone must vote in person is just another form of voter suppression. I hope at some point there is online voting in addition to in person and mail in/drop off ballots. Time to change with the times.
ETA - I totally agree with Golden, Election Day should be a national holiday.
Just look at all the unemployment fraud going on bc you don’t have to file IN PERSON. Until we can get a more secure way, I just can’t get on board with all these other ways of voting. Im all for weeklong in-person voting. Anything more is risky as a voter because a lot can change leading up to Election Day.
And yet, this election was deemed very secure and there still has been NO evidence to date of ANY fraud or wrongdoing.
I personally know people who requested ballots and sent them in for elderly family members. There is no evidence bc you can’t prove it. I bet if you look at track records there were a lot of voters 80 plus who haven’t voted in years and ‘voted’ this election.
I hate when anyone tries to prove their point with anecdotal evidence because it's meaningless. Trump filed over 60 lawsuits and spent MONTHS trying to prove fraud and was continually unsuccessful because there was NO evidence. At some point you have to believe the facts, the facts have repeatedly shown that this was a safe and fair election.
We just can’t believe that 80 million people would have voted for him. When will he be allowed to take questions?
Funny, because MOST people can't understand why anyone would vote for an inept, unqualified, washed up reality star. TWICE no less. Sad.
ETA - Conspiracy theories aren't facts.
So when will he be allowed to answer questions?
Who cares? Seriously. Who cares. Trump took questions and look how swimmingly that went. He sounded like a bumbling imbecile every time he spoke so I'm not sure why this is such a big thing for you.
The way I see it, Biden is doing his job. His press secretary holds daily briefings to inform the public. He isn't spending every waking minute on Twitter like a hormone enraged tween and even better, he isn't a media whore. He's not calling people names, ridiculing everyone around him and embarrassing the $hit out of this country. But my favorite part, he's surrounded by a competent and qualified cabinet and they are working hard to get things done.
Him taking or not taking questions is pretty low on my "give a crap" list. He's ten times the president Trump ever was even on his worst day.
I think you are missing the point. They.won’t.LET him. That worries most but I guess he is much better than Trump according to you even though he can’t even take questions without help. Gotcha.
Let me reiterate. Who cares. I literally don't care, he's doing his job and things have been more calm in the last month or so then the last 4 years. Find something worthwhile to stress over.
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Re: Iowa governor signs controversial law shortening early and Election Day voting
Posted by Hofstra26
Posted by Valentinesbaby73
Posted by Hofstra26
Posted by Valentinesbaby73
Posted by Hofstra26
Posted by Valentinesbaby73
Posted by Hofstra26
Posted by LittleDiva
Posted by Hofstra26
Posted by LittleDiva
Posted by Hofstra26
It's almost as if some people are unaware of the voter suppression problem we have in this country.
I'm also not understanding why anyone thinks election results are suppose to be definitive on election night. Where did anyone get the idea that the election must be decided on one night? It's not how things EVER worked, states have their own voting rules and counting votes takes time.
Lastly, I'll say this until I'm blue in the face, this is the 21st century, the notion that one MUST show up in person to vote is so outdated and archaic. Every American should have the option to vote in whatever manner works best for them whether that be in person, by ballot or otherwise. The easier we make it to vote, the more people that will vote but we all know that's not what politicians want. Insisting that everyone must vote in person is just another form of voter suppression. I hope at some point there is online voting in addition to in person and mail in/drop off ballots. Time to change with the times.
ETA - I totally agree with Golden, Election Day should be a national holiday.
Just look at all the unemployment fraud going on bc you don’t have to file IN PERSON. Until we can get a more secure way, I just can’t get on board with all these other ways of voting. Im all for weeklong in-person voting. Anything more is risky as a voter because a lot can change leading up to Election Day.
And yet, this election was deemed very secure and there still has been NO evidence to date of ANY fraud or wrongdoing.
I personally know people who requested ballots and sent them in for elderly family members. There is no evidence bc you can’t prove it. I bet if you look at track records there were a lot of voters 80 plus who haven’t voted in years and ‘voted’ this election.
I hate when anyone tries to prove their point with anecdotal evidence because it's meaningless. Trump filed over 60 lawsuits and spent MONTHS trying to prove fraud and was continually unsuccessful because there was NO evidence. At some point you have to believe the facts, the facts have repeatedly shown that this was a safe and fair election.
We just can’t believe that 80 million people would have voted for him. When will he be allowed to take questions?
Funny, because MOST people can't understand why anyone would vote for an inept, unqualified, washed up reality star. TWICE no less. Sad.
ETA - Conspiracy theories aren't facts.
So when will he be allowed to answer questions?
Who cares? Seriously. Who cares. Trump took questions and look how swimmingly that went. He sounded like a bumbling imbecile every time he spoke so I'm not sure why this is such a big thing for you.
The way I see it, Biden is doing his job. His press secretary holds daily briefings to inform the public. He isn't spending every waking minute on Twitter like a hormone enraged tween and even better, he isn't a media whore. He's not calling people names, ridiculing everyone around him and embarrassing the $hit out of this country. But my favorite part, he's surrounded by a competent and qualified cabinet and they are working hard to get things done.
Him taking or not taking questions is pretty low on my "give a crap" list. He's ten times the president Trump ever was even on his worst day.
I think you are missing the point. They.won’t.LET him. That worries most but I guess he is much better than Trump according to you even though he can’t even take questions without help. Gotcha.
Let me reiterate. Who cares. I literally don't care, he's doing his job and things have been more calm in the last month or so then the last 4 years. Find something worthwhile to stress over.
Calm is good. Avoidance is not.
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Iowa governor signs controversial law shortening early and Election Day voting
What is the reasoning behind this?
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KarenK122
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Iowa governor signs controversial law shortening early and Election Day voting
Going back to the initial post, since this seemed to go off the rails again....
I have no issue reducing it to 20 days. 20 days or 29 days really should not matter. I do think closing an hour early might be a problem as it might interfere with working people or people needing transportation to a polling site.
I also, firmly believe that everyone that votes should be showing an ID. If you don't have a driver's license then the state should be providing some sort of ID to those over 18. I also don't believe in mailing ballots out to everyone because I find no order in that. Every ballot should be able to be accounted for and should not be a mass mailing.
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GoldenRod
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Re: Iowa governor signs controversial law shortening early and Election Day voting
Posted by KarenK122
Going back to the initial post, since this seemed to go off the rails again....
I have no issue reducing it to 20 days. 20 days or 29 days really should not matter. I do think closing an hour early might be a problem as it might interfere with working people or people needing transportation to a polling site.
I also, firmly believe that everyone that votes should be showing an ID. If you don't have a driver's license then the state should be providing some sort of ID to those over 18. I also don't believe in mailing ballots out to everyone because I find no order in that. Every ballot should be able to be accounted for and should not be a mass mailing.
Thanks for bringing this back. I like your reasoning for each point. I agree that the number of days from 29 to 20 doesn't really matter.
I think the hour earlier could make a significant difference for many people. I know a lot of people that don't get home until late, and that extra hour could make a difference.
If states offered free ID, I would be much more open to needing ID to vote.
I have to do more research on the mass mailing of the ballots. I've heard of several locations where it works.
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Hofstra26
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Re: Iowa governor signs controversial law shortening early and Election Day voting
Posted by GoldenRod
Posted by KarenK122
Going back to the initial post, since this seemed to go off the rails again....
I have no issue reducing it to 20 days. 20 days or 29 days really should not matter. I do think closing an hour early might be a problem as it might interfere with working people or people needing transportation to a polling site.
I also, firmly believe that everyone that votes should be showing an ID. If you don't have a driver's license then the state should be providing some sort of ID to those over 18. I also don't believe in mailing ballots out to everyone because I find no order in that. Every ballot should be able to be accounted for and should not be a mass mailing.
Thanks for bringing this back. I like your reasoning for each point. I agree that the number of days from 29 to 20 doesn't really matter.
I think the hour earlier could make a significant difference for many people. I know a lot of people that don't get home until late, and that extra hour could make a difference.
If states offered free ID, I would be much more open to needing ID to vote.
I have to do more research on the mass mailing of the ballots. I've heard of several locations where it works.
NJ did mass mailing and at least for myself, I thought it was great. The ballot had some unique identifiers so that you were able to check the status of your ballot online. I knew the moment it was received. You were able to mail it in or drop it off at one of the many secure ballot boxes at local municipal buildings. Honestly, I thought it was so easy and convenient. My DH and I only received one ballot each even with a mass mailing. 
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KarenK122
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Re: Iowa governor signs controversial law shortening early and Election Day voting
Posted by Hofstra26
Posted by GoldenRod
Posted by KarenK122
Going back to the initial post, since this seemed to go off the rails again....
I have no issue reducing it to 20 days. 20 days or 29 days really should not matter. I do think closing an hour early might be a problem as it might interfere with working people or people needing transportation to a polling site.
I also, firmly believe that everyone that votes should be showing an ID. If you don't have a driver's license then the state should be providing some sort of ID to those over 18. I also don't believe in mailing ballots out to everyone because I find no order in that. Every ballot should be able to be accounted for and should not be a mass mailing.
Thanks for bringing this back. I like your reasoning for each point. I agree that the number of days from 29 to 20 doesn't really matter.
I think the hour earlier could make a significant difference for many people. I know a lot of people that don't get home until late, and that extra hour could make a difference.
If states offered free ID, I would be much more open to needing ID to vote.
I have to do more research on the mass mailing of the ballots. I've heard of several locations where it works.
NJ did mass mailing and at least for myself, I thought it was great. The ballot had some unique identifiers so that you were able to check the status of your ballot online. I knew the moment it was received. You were able to mail it in or drop it off at one of the many secure ballot boxes at local municipal buildings. Honestly, I thought it was so easy and convenient. My DH and I only received one ballot each even with a mass mailing.
I don't have a problem with that type of mass mailing because it sounds like from what you described, it was traceable and you were able to track. I also did a mail in ballot here in NY but I requested my ballot, which I also thinks works. I know in other states, it is not so efficient.
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Hofstra26
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Re: Iowa governor signs controversial law shortening early and Election Day voting
Posted by KarenK122
Posted by Hofstra26
Posted by GoldenRod
Posted by KarenK122
Going back to the initial post, since this seemed to go off the rails again....
I have no issue reducing it to 20 days. 20 days or 29 days really should not matter. I do think closing an hour early might be a problem as it might interfere with working people or people needing transportation to a polling site.
I also, firmly believe that everyone that votes should be showing an ID. If you don't have a driver's license then the state should be providing some sort of ID to those over 18. I also don't believe in mailing ballots out to everyone because I find no order in that. Every ballot should be able to be accounted for and should not be a mass mailing.
Thanks for bringing this back. I like your reasoning for each point. I agree that the number of days from 29 to 20 doesn't really matter.
I think the hour earlier could make a significant difference for many people. I know a lot of people that don't get home until late, and that extra hour could make a difference.
If states offered free ID, I would be much more open to needing ID to vote.
I have to do more research on the mass mailing of the ballots. I've heard of several locations where it works.
NJ did mass mailing and at least for myself, I thought it was great. The ballot had some unique identifiers so that you were able to check the status of your ballot online. I knew the moment it was received. You were able to mail it in or drop it off at one of the many secure ballot boxes at local municipal buildings. Honestly, I thought it was so easy and convenient. My DH and I only received one ballot each even with a mass mailing.
I don't have a problem with that type of mass mailing because it sounds like from what you described, it was traceable and you were able to track. I also did a mail in ballot here in NY but I requested my ballot, which I also thinks works. I know in other states, it is not so efficient.
Yes, in my case it was traceable. I think that's a good way to do it because you can at least verify it was received. This was the first time I ever used a ballot, I usually vote in person.
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Re: Iowa governor signs controversial law shortening early and Election Day voting
Posted by KarenK122
Going back to the initial post, since this seemed to go off the rails again....
I have no issue reducing it to 20 days. 20 days or 29 days really should not matter. I do think closing an hour early might be a problem as it might interfere with working people or people needing transportation to a polling site.
I also, firmly believe that everyone that votes should be showing an ID. If you don't have a driver's license then the state should be providing some sort of ID to those over 18. I also don't believe in mailing ballots out to everyone because I find no order in that. Every ballot should be able to be accounted for and should not be a mass mailing.
Not really derailed as fraud was mentioned.
Voter ID and only one ballot per person. NY is horrible as I could have voted under my name and came back and voted under my kids name as no ID was asked for.
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GoldenRod
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Re: Iowa governor signs controversial law shortening early and Election Day voting
Posted by Hofstra26
Posted by KarenK122
Posted by Hofstra26
Posted by GoldenRod
Posted by KarenK122
Going back to the initial post, since this seemed to go off the rails again....
I have no issue reducing it to 20 days. 20 days or 29 days really should not matter. I do think closing an hour early might be a problem as it might interfere with working people or people needing transportation to a polling site.
I also, firmly believe that everyone that votes should be showing an ID. If you don't have a driver's license then the state should be providing some sort of ID to those over 18. I also don't believe in mailing ballots out to everyone because I find no order in that. Every ballot should be able to be accounted for and should not be a mass mailing.
Thanks for bringing this back. I like your reasoning for each point. I agree that the number of days from 29 to 20 doesn't really matter.
I think the hour earlier could make a significant difference for many people. I know a lot of people that don't get home until late, and that extra hour could make a difference.
If states offered free ID, I would be much more open to needing ID to vote.
I have to do more research on the mass mailing of the ballots. I've heard of several locations where it works.
NJ did mass mailing and at least for myself, I thought it was great. The ballot had some unique identifiers so that you were able to check the status of your ballot online. I knew the moment it was received. You were able to mail it in or drop it off at one of the many secure ballot boxes at local municipal buildings. Honestly, I thought it was so easy and convenient. My DH and I only received one ballot each even with a mass mailing.
I don't have a problem with that type of mass mailing because it sounds like from what you described, it was traceable and you were able to track. I also did a mail in ballot here in NY but I requested my ballot, which I also thinks works. I know in other states, it is not so efficient.
Yes, in my case it was traceable. I think that's a good way to do it because you can at least verify it was received. This was the first time I ever used a ballot, I usually vote in person.
That sounds like a pretty good solution.
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GoldenRod
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Re: Iowa governor signs controversial law shortening early and Election Day voting
Another part of that law that I didn't agree with was that mail-in ballots had to be received by the close of the in-person polls on Election Day. That means that you can't vote by mail on ED. Many people wait until the last minute to vote, and in some reports I saw, people were undecided even on Election Day.
I think there should be a reasonable, single-digit number of days after ED to receive mail-in ballots so that people can vote by mail on ED.
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Diane
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Re: Iowa governor signs controversial law shortening early and Election Day voting
Posted by GoldenRod
Posted by soontobemommyof2
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I also think if someone needs to take some time off from work to go voting, employers should allow that person to do so without any repercussions and without deducting pay. Voting is important and it should not cost u ur job to do so.
I absolutely agree with that. Many people can't vote because they aren't able to leave their jobs to get to the polls. With an hour less of available time, there will be people who don't get home in time to vote. By eliminating the ability to ask for a mail-in ballot just because you know you can't get there before or after work means you can't vote with the current rules.
Well, if they want a mail in ballot it should be requested by the person. Not mass mailing.
I am all for showing ID. It should be like that in every state.
Come on, everyone has some form of ID.
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Re: Iowa governor signs controversial law shortening early and Election Day voting
Posted by Hofstra26
Posted by LittleDiva
Posted by Hofstra26
It's almost as if some people are unaware of the voter suppression problem we have in this country.
I'm also not understanding why anyone thinks election results are suppose to be definitive on election night. Where did anyone get the idea that the election must be decided on one night? It's not how things EVER worked, states have their own voting rules and counting votes takes time.
Lastly, I'll say this until I'm blue in the face, this is the 21st century, the notion that one MUST show up in person to vote is so outdated and archaic. Every American should have the option to vote in whatever manner works best for them whether that be in person, by ballot or otherwise. The easier we make it to vote, the more people that will vote but we all know that's not what politicians want. Insisting that everyone must vote in person is just another form of voter suppression. I hope at some point there is online voting in addition to in person and mail in/drop off ballots. Time to change with the times.
ETA - I totally agree with Golden, Election Day should be a national holiday.
Just look at all the unemployment fraud going on bc you don’t have to file IN PERSON. Until we can get a more secure way, I just can’t get on board with all these other ways of voting. Im all for weeklong in-person voting. Anything more is risky as a voter because a lot can change leading up to Election Day.
And yet, this election was deemed very secure and there still has been NO evidence to date of ANY fraud or wrongdoing.
Voter fraud has been going on for over a 100 years.
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Re: Iowa governor signs controversial law shortening early and Election Day voting
Posted by Diane
Posted by GoldenRod
Posted by soontobemommyof2
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I also think if someone needs to take some time off from work to go voting, employers should allow that person to do so without any repercussions and without deducting pay. Voting is important and it should not cost u ur job to do so.
I absolutely agree with that. Many people can't vote because they aren't able to leave their jobs to get to the polls. With an hour less of available time, there will be people who don't get home in time to vote. By eliminating the ability to ask for a mail-in ballot just because you know you can't get there before or after work means you can't vote with the current rules.
Well, if they want a mail in ballot it should be requested by the person. Not mass mailing.
I am all for showing ID. It should be like that in every state.
Come on, everyone has some form of ID.
Everyone you know has ID, but not everyone has a valid ID.
My aunt and uncle do not drive, have no credit cards, or bank accounts. They live at/below the poverty line. They have had their jobs for decades and do not have a valid state issued ID.
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Diane
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Re: Iowa governor signs controversial law shortening early and Election Day voting
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My aunt and uncle do not drive, have no credit cards, or bank accounts. They live at/below the poverty line. They have had their jobs for decades and do not have a valid state issued ID.
In circumstances like this, the government should step in and issue them a valid ID at no charge.
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Re: Iowa governor signs controversial law shortening early and Election Day voting
Posted by Diane
Posted by Hofstra26
Posted by LittleDiva
Posted by Hofstra26
It's almost as if some people are unaware of the voter suppression problem we have in this country.
I'm also not understanding why anyone thinks election results are suppose to be definitive on election night. Where did anyone get the idea that the election must be decided on one night? It's not how things EVER worked, states have their own voting rules and counting votes takes time.
Lastly, I'll say this until I'm blue in the face, this is the 21st century, the notion that one MUST show up in person to vote is so outdated and archaic. Every American should have the option to vote in whatever manner works best for them whether that be in person, by ballot or otherwise. The easier we make it to vote, the more people that will vote but we all know that's not what politicians want. Insisting that everyone must vote in person is just another form of voter suppression. I hope at some point there is online voting in addition to in person and mail in/drop off ballots. Time to change with the times.
ETA - I totally agree with Golden, Election Day should be a national holiday.
Just look at all the unemployment fraud going on bc you don’t have to file IN PERSON. Until we can get a more secure way, I just can’t get on board with all these other ways of voting. Im all for weeklong in-person voting. Anything more is risky as a voter because a lot can change leading up to Election Day.
And yet, this election was deemed very secure and there still has been NO evidence to date of ANY fraud or wrongdoing.
Voter fraud has been going on for over a 100 years.
Not according to some people on this board.
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Re: Iowa governor signs controversial law shortening early and Election Day voting
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My aunt and uncle do not drive, have no credit cards, or bank accounts. They live at/below the poverty line. They have had their jobs for decades and do not have a valid state issued ID.
In circumstances like this, the government should step in and issue them a valid ID at no charge.
Exactly. Not sure how much an ID is but if they can’t afford it, then the tab should be picked up by the government.
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Re: Iowa governor signs controversial law shortening early and Election Day voting
Posted by PitterPatter11
Posted by Diane
Posted by GoldenRod
Posted by soontobemommyof2
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I also think if someone needs to take some time off from work to go voting, employers should allow that person to do so without any repercussions and without deducting pay. Voting is important and it should not cost u ur job to do so.
I absolutely agree with that. Many people can't vote because they aren't able to leave their jobs to get to the polls. With an hour less of available time, there will be people who don't get home in time to vote. By eliminating the ability to ask for a mail-in ballot just because you know you can't get there before or after work means you can't vote with the current rules.
Well, if they want a mail in ballot it should be requested by the person. Not mass mailing.
I am all for showing ID. It should be like that in every state.
Come on, everyone has some form of ID.
Everyone you know has ID, but not everyone has a valid ID.
My aunt and uncle do not drive, have no credit cards, or bank accounts. They live at/below the poverty line. They have had their jobs for decades and do not have a valid state issued ID.
It really is not that expensive but I agree it should be required so the government should help out.
Under age 62, your next birthday is within the next 6 months
4 years
$9.00
Under age 62, your next birthday is more than 6 months away
8 years
$13.00
Under age 62 and receive SSI
10 years
$6.50
Age 62 or older
10 years
$6.50
Age 62 or older and receive SSI
10 years
No Fee
Any age and receive public assistance
4 years
No Fee
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GoldenRod
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Re: Iowa governor signs controversial law shortening early and Election Day voting
Posted by Diane
My aunt and uncle do not drive, have no credit cards, or bank accounts. They live at/below the poverty line. They have had their jobs for decades and do not have a valid state issued ID.
In circumstances like this, the government should step in and issue them a valid ID at no charge.
*Should*, but currently doesn't. Until that does happen, requiring voter ID is unconstitutional. If and when that happens, then the merits can be discussed. The initial hurdle has to be crossed first.
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| Posted 3/9/21 12:18 PM |
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Re: Iowa governor signs controversial law shortening early and Election Day voting
Posted by GoldenRod
Posted by Diane
My aunt and uncle do not drive, have no credit cards, or bank accounts. They live at/below the poverty line. They have had their jobs for decades and do not have a valid state issued ID.
In circumstances like this, the government should step in and issue them a valid ID at no charge.
*Should*, but currently doesn't. Until that does happen, requiring voter ID is unconstitutional. If and when that happens, then the merits can be discussed. The initial hurdle has to be crossed first.
And without it you can have fraud. Just like I explained above, I could have voted for my own child and myself. That is fraud.
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| Posted 3/9/21 12:20 PM |
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seaside
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Re: Iowa governor signs controversial law shortening early and Election Day voting
Posted by BFNY516
Ridiculous but these things backfired on them last time.
They can try all they want, but people like Stacey Abrahams and others will use their grassroots approach to combat it & increase voter turn out.
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| Posted 3/9/21 12:22 PM |
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GoldenRod
10 years on LIF!
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Re: Iowa governor signs controversial law shortening early and Election Day voting
Posted by Valentinesbaby73
Posted by GoldenRod
Posted by Diane
My aunt and uncle do not drive, have no credit cards, or bank accounts. They live at/below the poverty line. They have had their jobs for decades and do not have a valid state issued ID.
In circumstances like this, the government should step in and issue them a valid ID at no charge.
*Should*, but currently doesn't. Until that does happen, requiring voter ID is unconstitutional. If and when that happens, then the merits can be discussed. The initial hurdle has to be crossed first.
And without it you can have fraud. Just like I explained above, I could have voted for my own child and myself. That is fraud.
And there were several stories of Republicans trying to "prove" that the system was flawed, got caught and arrested.
And we all know that the 80 year old grandma at the polling station can spot a fake ID from a mile away.... nobody who really wants to add one illegal vote can ever get past her....
Republicans at every level agreed that there was no significant fraud. If you believe that every Republican responsible for their election is lying and trying to cover up the Democrats somehow cheating their way to a Presidential win, then there's no way I can convince you otherwise.
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| Posted 3/9/21 12:27 PM |
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alli3131
Peanut is here!!!!!!
Member since 5/09 18388 total posts
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Re: Iowa governor signs controversial law shortening early and Election Day voting
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With that said, I think what should be implemented throughout all states is identity verification. As a matter of fact, no one should be walking around without some type of ID.
Then getting an ID needs to be free. You cannot put requirements on voting they will cost the voter money because then it’s not a free fair election. This has been litigated.
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| Posted 3/9/21 12:32 PM |
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Diane
Hope is Contagious....catch it
Member since 5/05 30683 total posts
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Re: Iowa governor signs controversial law shortening early and Election Day voting
Posted by Valentinesbaby73
Posted by GoldenRod
Posted by Diane
My aunt and uncle do not drive, have no credit cards, or bank accounts. They live at/below the poverty line. They have had their jobs for decades and do not have a valid state issued ID.
In circumstances like this, the government should step in and issue them a valid ID at no charge.
*Should*, but currently doesn't. Until that does happen, requiring voter ID is unconstitutional. If and when that happens, then the merits can be discussed. The initial hurdle has to be crossed first.
And without it you can have fraud. Just like I explained above, I could have voted for my own child and myself. That is fraud.
Yep, when my DH and I were on line waiting to vote. The man in front of us went to vote, and as they looked up his name, and ready to sign, someone already signed in his spot, so someone already voted under his name.
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