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Re: Is it true Suffolk North Shore has increased cancer rates?
Posted by kerrycec03
See here's my theory, and its cool if nobody agrees, but why live and run your life in fear. You could walk down the street, and boom your life could be over in a blink of a eye. I consider myself an optimistic person. I don't run my life worried about the what if's. I enjoy living for the moment. We all know there may be problems with the water, but you know what, you have a bigger risk of potential hazards when you drive your car. Now almost all my family still drink tap water, uses it for cooking, bathing, etc. I don't see a need to change my lifestyle because of the potential "what if's".
I don't know - I dont think i live my life in fear, and drinking bottled or filtered water really adds very little cost of inconvenience to my life. To me, what you are saying is the same as saying - why take the two seconds to buckle your seat belt? Well, because it could save your life. I think that there is a difference between living life in fear, and not taking life for granted......
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Re: Is it true Suffolk North Shore has increased cancer rates?
Posted by Goobster
Glad about your brother. I do research too b/c I had childhood cancer (leukemia) and am cured 20+ years (I grew up in Queens though). So I try to find out as much as I can.
I dont have time to read the articles just yet. What did they find in the study? A
And Bridget, what kind of cancer does your brother have? I am glad he is in remission, I can relate totally.
He was diagnossed with Lukemia APL last June and was in complete remission by October. Just had a follow up bone biopsy 2 weeks ago today and that was all clear.
Last night he developed a fever so they had to take him to the hospital but it looks like it is either an infection in his port or a virus my nephews had.
I am so glad to hear you are in remission.
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Re: Is it true Suffolk North Shore has increased cancer rates?
My DH is convinced his mom got breast cancer from drinking LI water. I tend to disagree. Being in the environmental field and working with a top eng firm in that area, I can honestly say you are by far "safer" drinking tap water, if you get it from a water company (were not talking well water here). The standards of the water that is delivered to your home is impeccable. However, there are no standards at all for bottled water.
I do think that the soil on LI is highly polluted. Yes, it can leach into groundwater, but unless you are drinking well water, you should be fine. There are so many areas of long island that are in superfund clean up phase that the general population is probably not aware of.
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Re: Is it true Suffolk North Shore has increased cancer rates?
I think a lot of our pollution comes from industrial sites on LI (most are not around anymore, though some are). If you take a look at Newsday's list of polluted spots, LI is covered. When we were looking to buy a house, I researched this further, and found that most of Nassau and a large part of Suffolk County are both dotted with lots of superfund sites.
There were so many, I finally realized if we wanted to live on LI in Nassau, we would have to live near one. So then I researched the sites in towns we were considering and chose the areas that had fairly good reports, for superfund sites.
NJ isn't much better either, though LI seems to be worse.
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Re: Is it true Suffolk North Shore has increased cancer rates?
[ There are so many areas of long island that are in superfund clean up phase that the general population is probably not aware of.
one of those being less then a mile from the house I grew up in- some jerk dumped jet fuel I think -
plus we had an oil leak in Setauket- also with in a mile of the house I grew up in
so I will take my chances with bottled water
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Re: Is it true Suffolk North Shore has increased cancer rates?
) Glad he is in remission.
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Re: Is it true Suffolk North Shore has increased cancer rates?
There were so many, I finally realized if we wanted to live on LI in Nassau, we would have to live near one.
NJ isn't much better either, though LI seems to be worse.
iI know what you mean
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Re: Is it true Suffolk North Shore has increased cancer rates?
Posted by lululu
I don't know - I dont think i live my life in fear, and drinking bottled or filtered water really adds very little cost of inconvenience to my life. To me, what you are saying is the same as saying - why take the two seconds to buckle your seat belt? Well, because it could save your life. I think that there is a difference between living life in fear, and not taking life for granted......
I agree totally!
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Re: Is it true Suffolk North Shore has increased cancer rates?
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Posted by Goobster
I did the same thing. www.toxicstargeting.com
Thanks for the website
You are welcome. Here is another one from teh EPA. I contacted them too. This one you can look up by county and town. It is very helpful.
http://www.epa.gov/region02/cleanup/sites/nytoc_county.html
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Eleanor
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Re: Is it true Suffolk North Shore has increased cancer rates?
We actually started Poland Spring delivery (thanks to Beth) and I agree with her - It's worth the $35 for peace of mind. It's a lot less than I would pay in medical copays and deductables.
As for flouride - there is none in my water anyway, so that pro of tap water isn't there for me.
I do cook with it though and have drank a glass or two in an emergency.
Honestly - I love having the ice cold and boiling hot water at my fingertips!
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Re: Is it true Suffolk North Shore has increased cancer rates?
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Posted by bridget-n-jimmy
as diagnossed with Lukemia APL last June and was in complete remission by October. Just had a follow up bone biopsy 2 weeks ago today and that was all clear.
I am so glad to hear you are in remission.
:) Glad he is in remission. Drs say once you are off tx for 5 years you are considered cured. Its a long road, but once you get there (he will!) you can finally breath a sigh of relief.
After that 5 yr mark, you are considered just as healthy as others and just as likely to get cancer as the next person pretty much.
Now...I dont worry about that anymoer, but I DO worry about other cancers from the soil,water, landfills, etc!
Ugh the worry never ends
His oncologist said that once he is in remission for two years he is considered cured. They have alot of new testing out, they have a biopsy test now that if you have even one cancer cell in your whole body it can pick it up. It is amazing how far technology has come.
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Goobster
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Re: Is it true Suffolk North Shore has increased cancer rates?
Posted by bridget-n-jimmy
His oncologist said that once he is in remission for two years he is considered cured. They have alot of new testing out, they have a biopsy test now that if you have even one cancer cell in your whole body it can pick it up. It is amazing how far technology has come.
Wow, two years. Making such strides how awesome!
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Re: Is it true Suffolk North Shore has increased cancer rates?
I just want to state before making decisions on tap water vs. bottled water you should really do some research.
LI groundwater is put through test after test to assure quality and is some of the purest water in the country. The water we drink now is thousands of years old, we haven't even begun to come close to tapping in the uppermost aquifer.
Poland Spring and any other bottled water has absolutely no regulations. Someone could take water out of their toilet or out of a dirty puddle, put it in a bottle and sell it to you.
There is absolutely no evidence that cancer is caused by drinking tap water.
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Re: Is it true Suffolk North Shore has increased cancer rates?
Posted by kerrycec03
Posted by lululu
Posted by kerrycec03
I do think LI has a greater % of cancer rates than the rest of the country, but I'm not about to stop drinking tap water because of it.
I must be very sheltered but I really didnt think that anyone drank tap water anymore on LI! At the very least I thought everyone ran their water thru a Brita filter before drinking it. My mother in law doesnt even want me to cook with tap water! Sometimes I even think that showering everyday in LI water is going to eventually do some harm. I guess I am paranoid though.
I definitely think that the higher rates of cancer is due to the water here.
See here's my theory, and its cool if nobody agrees, but why live and run your life in fear. You could walk down the street, and boom your life could be over in a blink of a eye. I consider myself an optimistic person. I don't run my life worried about the what if's. I enjoy living for the moment. We all know there may be problems with the water, but you know what, you have a bigger risk of potential hazards when you drive your car. Now almost all my family still drink tap water, uses it for cooking, bathing, etc. I don't see a need to change my lifestyle because of the potential "what if's".
what she said.
my mom's oncologist said a recent study showed that there were no unusually high risks in certain parts of long island than other parts.
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Re: Is it true Suffolk North Shore has increased cancer rates?
Posted by SweetTooth
There is absolutely no evidence that cancer is caused by drinking tap water.
I tend to agree with this....I did alot of research today after seeing this post and haven't really seen any concrete evidence connecting the two (unless I am missing some studies, which is highly possible) ... It's hard when a loved one gets diagnosed with cancer and I believe it's a natural reaction to want to find a cause (I know that I did when my mom was diagnosed) I think alot of people tend to look to the water supply because it is something that they feel they can easily control that will make them "safe".
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kerrycec03
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Re: Is it true Suffolk North Shore has increased cancer rates?
I too read all the posts and links that were in this email and I have yet to see a concrete reason to stop drinking tap water. I know a batch of you think I'm nuts for still drinking tap water, but it doesn't seem (according to all the research) that I'm harming myself or my loved ones in any way. Also, when I did more research, it seems there are a lot of nutrients from tap water that filtration systems and bottle water don't include. These nutrients are neccessary.
I'm not changing from tap, but I did read all the research and I still don't see a reason to even consider to stop drinking tap water.
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Goobster
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Re: Is it true Suffolk North Shore has increased cancer rates?
Posted by SweetTooth
Poland Spring and any other bottled water has absolutely no regulations. Someone could take water out of their toilet or out of a dirty puddle, put it in a bottle and sell it to you.
There is absolutely no evidence that cancer is caused by drinking tap water.
This concerns me too!!! You cant win either way!
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Re: Is it true Suffolk North Shore has increased cancer rates?
Posted by alisonggg
It's hard when a loved one gets diagnosed with cancer and I believe it's a natural reaction to want to find a cause (I know that I did when my mom was diagnosed) I think alot of people tend to look to the water supply because it is something that they feel they can easily control that will make them "safe".
Yes, I agree with this too. I do think sometimes things happen and there was no reason for it other than that is just the way it goes. I could drive myself crazy with the "dont do" list.
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Re: Is it true Suffolk North Shore has increased cancer rates?
Posted by kerrycec03
I too read all the posts and links that were in this email and I have yet to see a concrete reason to stop drinking tap water. I know a batch of you think I'm nuts for still drinking tap water, but it doesn't seem (according to all the research) that I'm harming myself or my loved ones in any way. Also, when I did more research, it seems there are a lot of nutrients from tap water that filtration systems and bottle water don't include. These nutrients are neccessary.
I'm not changing from tap, but I did read all the research and I still don't see a reason to even consider to stop drinking tap water.
I agree, the research on those sites haven't given me a reason to stop either
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Re: Is it true Suffolk North Shore has increased cancer rates?
I no longer drink tap water...why, you ask...because I lived in an area that had MTBE in the water...I drank it, even lost several fish in my fish tank because I did a water change during this time - (we were obviously not told until after the fact). So here I find out on the news that my water - the water I'm cooking with, bathing with, drinking, taking care of my family with is tanted with chemicals.
It didn't take much to make me pick up the phone to order bottled water.
From that day - to now, even living in a new area, I refuse to drink the water.
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CarrieAnn
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Re: Is it true Suffolk North Shore has increased cancer rates?
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I don't think ground water in general is bad. That's where most of the country gets their water. However, I think LI must have more toxins or something in their soil.. maybe from past use or population?
and the water is supposed to be in the ground for a certain amount of years (say 20?) before we take it, and since LI population has skyrocketed in the past 50 years, we only wait a few years to take it out of the ground. I defintiely think our water is NOT safe to drink.
Most of LI drinking water is extracted is from the Magothy Aquifer...the top is about 10 years old, middle is 100, and deepest parth of this aquifer is 500 y.o.
So, most of the drinking water we have been pulling from fell before the population boom on the island.
I dont dispute the possible pestisides that might have been in use...Think of all the cars transversing the island kicking out all this nasty stuff that then lands along the LIE and eventually down into our drinking water supply... although the soil does naturally cleanse the water as it infiltrates into the aquifer to some degree.
Septic is a big issue on LI in some locations, as is the developemental strip mall craze...open spaces arent what they used to be, causing more run off rather than recharge.
Here are 2 links to LI ground water that are reputable, in case there is inerest in how it
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~CarrieAnn
SUNY SB Groundwater LI
USGS Water Quality
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Re: Is it true Suffolk North Shore has increased cancer rates?
Posted by chmlengr
My DH is convinced his mom got breast cancer from drinking LI water. I tend to disagree. Being in the environmental field and working with a top eng firm in that area, I can honestly say you are by far "safer" drinking tap water, if you get it from a water company (were not talking well water here). The standards of the water that is delivered to your home is impeccable. However, there are no standards at all for bottled water.
I do think that the soil on LI is highly polluted. Yes, it can leach into groundwater, but unless you are drinking well water, you should be fine. There are so many areas of long island that are in superfund clean up phase that the general population is probably not aware of.
I was going to post something similar. I am in the environmental field also and ITA.
If you choose to filter your water (which I do to get rid of the yucky taste) then do so, if you choose to buy bottled water, then do so. But do your research first!
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hazeleyes33
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Re: Is it true Suffolk North Shore has increased cancer rates?
Posted by kerrycec03
Posted by lululu
Posted by kerrycec03
I do think LI has a greater % of cancer rates than the rest of the country, but I'm not about to stop drinking tap water because of it.
I must be very sheltered but I really didnt think that anyone drank tap water anymore on LI! At the very least I thought everyone ran their water thru a Brita filter before drinking it. My mother in law doesnt even want me to cook with tap water! Sometimes I even think that showering everyday in LI water is going to eventually do some harm. I guess I am paranoid though.
I definitely think that the higher rates of cancer is due to the water here.
See here's my theory, and its cool if nobody agrees, but why live and run your life in fear. You could walk down the street, and boom your life could be over in a blink of a eye. I consider myself an optimistic person. I don't run my life worried about the what if's. I enjoy living for the moment. We all know there may be problems with the water, but you know what, you have a bigger risk of potential hazards when you drive your car. Now almost all my family still drink tap water, uses it for cooking, bathing, etc. I don't see a need to change my lifestyle because of the potential "what if's".
I have to agree with you. I drink tap water and don't plan to stop. My dad got cancer in another state and he used a brita everyday.
I thought they always said it was the Lipa poles around that is why everyone was getting breast cancer, at least.
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Re: Is it true Suffolk North Shore has increased cancer rates?
Who knows what the cause is. I wouldn't stop using tap water either. But I grew up on the north shore, in Suffolk and I had two best friends growing up and out of the three of us, their two mothers had cancer. Also, out of the three of us, two of us have children and our breast milk never came in as well.
BUT cancer is hereditary as well, we don't have it in my family, so, really who knows.
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