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2girlsforme
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Re: Is it true Suffolk North Shore has increased cancer rates?
Posted by chmlengr
My DH is convinced his mom got breast cancer from drinking LI water. I tend to disagree. Being in the environmental field and working with a top eng firm in that area, I can honestly say you are by far "safer" drinking tap water, if you get it from a water company (were not talking well water here). The standards of the water that is delivered to your home is impeccable. However, there are no standards at all for bottled water.
I do think that the soil on LI is highly polluted. Yes, it can leach into groundwater, but unless you are drinking well water, you should be fine. There are so many areas of long island that are in superfund clean up phase that the general population is probably not aware of.
All the engineers in my family and my husband's completely agree with you. My brother in law who is an environmental engineer and is involved in water treatment completely agrees about bottled water. On his advice we installed a filtration system throughout our home. In addition, I use a Brita filter which, I change monthly. But really who knows.
ETA: my brother in law (dh's brother) lost his father and uncle both of whom spent most of their adult lives in Huntington Harbor and Centerport , to cancer.
ETA: my dh is also super crazy about superfund sites and we excluded areas we would have otherwise been interested in based solely on this criteria. In his word's "I have enough cancer in my family that I don't have to increase my odds by living close to a superfund site."
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Re: Is it true Suffolk North Shore has increased cancer rates?
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[ETA: my brother in law (dh's brother) lost his father and uncle both of whom spent most of their adult lives in Huntington Harbor and Centerport , to cancer.
ETA: my dh is also super crazy about superfund sites and we excluded areas we would have otherwise been interested in based solely on this criteria. In his word's "I have enough cancer in my family that I don't have to increase my odds by living close to a superfund site."
This is what concerns me. Is it coincidence or not? It seems every area in LI that i like, I feel worry about and that stinks. I just wonder what is coincidence, family history, etc. In my family, almost everyone has died of cancer and they live in all different places. So who really knows?
What would attibute to Huntington Harbor and Centerport's cancer "coincidence"? Does your DH have any theories? Do you feel it is the water consumption, showering with teh water, the air, from the soil (thus water then I guess)? Is there a superfund site over there? I have not found one there. I just know of the East Northport Landfill (which is not a superfund site).
What superfund site areas have you crossed off your list?
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Re: Is it true Suffolk North Shore has increased cancer rates?
Posted by 2girlsforme
All the engineers in my family and my husband's completely agree with you. My brother in law who is an environmental engineer and is involved in water treatment completely agrees about bottled water. On his advice we installed a filtration system throughout our home. In addition, I use a Brita filter which, I change monthly. But really who knows.
ETA: my brother in law (dh's brother) lost his father and uncle both of whom spent most of their adult lives in Huntington Harbor and Centerport , to cancer.
ETA: my dh is also super crazy about superfund sites and we excluded areas we would have otherwise been interested in based solely on this criteria. In his word's "I have enough cancer in my family that I don't have to increase my odds by living close to a superfund site."
I wonder if I know your BIL. The Env Eng field is a small field. Does he work for a LI firm??
My MIL spent most of her married life in Northport and Smithtown, some of the areas close to where you mentioned BIL's family living near.
Posted by Goobster Also,does anyone know why the East Northport landfill is not a superfund site yet?
Why would it need to be a superfund site? I have worked with many landfill closings, and they are usually capped and the methane gases are vented or flared. I can ask a coworker in that department for you.
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Re: Is it true Suffolk North Shore has increased cancer rates?
Posted by chmlengr
Why would it need to be a superfund site? I have worked with many landfill closings, and they are usually capped and the methane gases are vented or flared. I can ask a coworker
I am no expert, just an average person trying to decipher this information. Why would it need to be a superfund site? B/c according to this article, the leacheate has contaminated water wells, etc. That they never lined the landfill and therefore it is spreading the contaminants underground, etc. Am I misunderstanding this? I know it certainly doesnt give me a warm fuzzy feeling when I read this.
http://www.atsdr.cdc.gov/HAC/PHA/huntington/hun_p1.html
Any education on this matter I would appreciate if I am misinterpreting what I am reading.
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Re: Is it true Suffolk North Shore has increased cancer rates?
We ruled out Syosset based upon their landfill and Bethpage. Both had reports that sounded worse than the Port Washington landfill. And Bethpage had some possibly toxic areas around Grunman, it was unclear what was wrong there, or what was being done with it.
I don't know what makes one landfill a superfund site over another though--they aren't all superfund sites.
And who knows what causes cancer? I do think pollutants on LI are a big part of the problem, but genetics must play a part also.
And to answer the original question, I don't know if the north shore of Suffolk has a higher cancer rate than anywhere else. One other thing there that could cause problems is a LIPA plant (though they are on other parts of the island too)>
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Re: Is it true Suffolk North Shore has increased cancer rates?
http://www.health.state.ny.us/statistics/cancer/registry/cntymaps/cntymaps.pdf
I thought this was helpful
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Re: Is it true Suffolk North Shore has increased cancer rates?
Posted by cjik
We ruled out Syosset based upon their landfill and Bethpage. Both had reports that sounded worse than the Port Washington landfill. And Bethpage had some possibly toxic areas around Grunman, it was unclear what was wrong there, or what was being done with it.
I have to read more about the Syosset landfill (which I jsut found out about). We were looking there but not after knowing about the landfill right there.
How "far" do you/DH think is far enough for you to live from a Superfund site?
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Re: Is it true Suffolk North Shore has increased cancer rates?
There has been a lot of debate around the emissions from Brookhaven National Lab; my best friend concentrated her college research paper on a tritium leak from the lab, and it's association with high rates of breast cancer.
I have not read the studies, but have heard a lot of debate.
The following link is an editorial, so by no means is it a scientific study.
http://www.nytimes.com/2006/11/12/opinion/nyregionopinions/12LI-McMasters.html?ex=1181188800&en=3e98206142003eec&ei=5070
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