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ave1024
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Re: Is it true that Cablevision won't have channel 7 (ABC) after March 7th?
Posted by nraboni
Just an FYI...it is only effecting ABC 7 and not any of the Disney/ABC owned cable networks and if Channel 7 does go dark it is because ABC pulled the plug...not Cablevision.
Don't get me wrong...I LOVE ABC! Everything I watch is on that network and I will be pis s ed if it goes dark.
Totally agree. I love how these networks play off viewer's emotions and then people think its Cablevision at fault.
It's the network demanding more money and Cablevision is refusing to raise their rates for their customers.
And the more people think it's the cable company at fault, the more networks will try to strongarm cablevision.
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Re: Is it true that Cablevision won't have channel 7 (ABC) after March 7th?
Posted by ave1024
It's the network demanding more money and Cablevision is refusing to raise their rates for their customers.
While I understand this, if ABC is technically "free" (for viewers who don't have cable, verizon, anything) how can Cablevision get away with charging for it? I'm just not sure how this works that's all (I'm going by the quote in the OP).
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Re: Is it true that Cablevision won't have channel 7 (ABC) after March 7th?
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Posted by ave1024
It's the network demanding more money and Cablevision is refusing to raise their rates for their customers.
While I understand this, if ABC is technically "free" (for viewers who don't have cable, verizon, anything) how can Cablevision get away with charging for it? I'm just not sure how this works that's all (I'm going by the quote in the OP).
Its similar to the situation with HGTV/Food.
ABC charges Cablevision a fee per subscriber to broadcast the station throughout the Cablevision footprint. In turn, Cablevision rolls this fee into their monthly bills just like they do with every other network that they carry.
Since Ad Revenue is down, many networks are trying to negotiate a higher rate to Cable/Satelite providers to make up for the lack of Ad Revenue due to the economy.
Now...since ABC, CBS, NBC, FOX and CW are technically "free" because they are broadcast networks customers may still be able to "pull the plug" on their cable/satelite boxes and still receive these channels. But since the digital conversion, in order to get these channels you have to have a converter box because the good ol antennae will no longer work.
When you subscribe to cable you are paying for a service to receive the "free" channels along with the non-paid cable channels..premium channels and On Demand channels will always cost extra and will never be included in the "Basic Cable" Plan.
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Re: Is it true that Cablevision won't have channel 7 (ABC) after March 7th?
Posted by nraboni
Posted by headoverheels
Posted by ave1024
It's the network demanding more money and Cablevision is refusing to raise their rates for their customers.
While I understand this, if ABC is technically "free" (for viewers who don't have cable, verizon, anything) how can Cablevision get away with charging for it? I'm just not sure how this works that's all (I'm going by the quote in the OP).
Its similar to the situation with HGTV/Food.
ABC charges Cablevision a fee per subscriber to broadcast the station throughout the Cablevision footprint. In turn, Cablevision rolls this fee into their monthly bills just like they do with every other network that they carry.
Since Ad Revenue is down, many networks are trying to negotiate a higher rate to Cable/Satelite providers to make up for the lack of Ad Revenue due to the economy.
Now...since ABC, CBS, NBC, FOX and CW are technically "free" because they are broadcast networks customers may still be able to "pull the plug" on their cable/satelite boxes and still receive these channels. But since the digital conversion, in order to get these channels you have to have a converter box because the good ol antennae will no longer work.
When you subscribe to cable you are paying for a service to receive the "free" channels along with the non-paid cable channels..premium channels and On Demand channels will always cost extra and will never be included in the "Basic Cable" Plan.
OKay, so ABC is charging Cablevision already, they just want more money (like Scripps)? The way the quote is worded, it's like ABC is "giving" their station away for free to Cablevision.
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nraboni
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Re: Is it true that Cablevision won't have channel 7 (ABC) after March 7th?
Posted by headoverheels
Posted by nraboni
Posted by headoverheels
Posted by ave1024
It's the network demanding more money and Cablevision is refusing to raise their rates for their customers.
While I understand this, if ABC is technically "free" (for viewers who don't have cable, verizon, anything) how can Cablevision get away with charging for it? I'm just not sure how this works that's all (I'm going by the quote in the OP).
Its similar to the situation with HGTV/Food.
ABC charges Cablevision a fee per subscriber to broadcast the station throughout the Cablevision footprint. In turn, Cablevision rolls this fee into their monthly bills just like they do with every other network that they carry.
Since Ad Revenue is down, many networks are trying to negotiate a higher rate to Cable/Satelite providers to make up for the lack of Ad Revenue due to the economy.
Now...since ABC, CBS, NBC, FOX and CW are technically "free" because they are broadcast networks customers may still be able to "pull the plug" on their cable/satelite boxes and still receive these channels. But since the digital conversion, in order to get these channels you have to have a converter box because the good ol antennae will no longer work.
When you subscribe to cable you are paying for a service to receive the "free" channels along with the non-paid cable channels..premium channels and On Demand channels will always cost extra and will never be included in the "Basic Cable" Plan.
OKay, so ABC is charging Cablevision already, they just want more money (like Scripps)? The way the quote is worded, it's like ABC is "giving" their station away for free to Cablevision.
Yes, just like Scripps. Below are statements from ABC and Cablevision:
ABC
"With the help of our viewers, we've built ABC7 into the most watched station in the country, and have been trying for two years to get Cablevision to acknowledge the station's value to their business. Despite our best efforts, it has now become clear that Cablevision has no intention of coming to a fair agreement. We can no longer sit back and allow Cablevision to use our shows for free while they continue to charge their customers for them. We've worked too hard and invested too many millions of dollars in programming and community outreach, to be taken advantage of any longer – especially since our viewers can watch their favorite ABC7 shows free, over-the-air, or by switching to one of Cablevision's competitors."
Cablevision
"It is shocking that in these difficult economic times, ABC Disney is threatening to remove WABC unless Cablevision and its customers pay $40 million in new fees for programming that it offers today for free, both over-the-air and online. It is not fair for ABC Disney to hold Cablevision customers hostage by forcing them to pay what amounts to a new TV tax. We urge ABC Disney not to pull the plug and instead work with us to reach a fair agreement."
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Re: Is it true that Cablevision won't have channel 7 (ABC) after March 7th?
Posted by nraboni
Posted by headoverheels
Posted by nraboni
Posted by headoverheels
Posted by ave1024
It's the network demanding more money and Cablevision is refusing to raise their rates for their customers.
While I understand this, if ABC is technically "free" (for viewers who don't have cable, verizon, anything) how can Cablevision get away with charging for it? I'm just not sure how this works that's all (I'm going by the quote in the OP).
Its similar to the situation with HGTV/Food.
ABC charges Cablevision a fee per subscriber to broadcast the station throughout the Cablevision footprint. In turn, Cablevision rolls this fee into their monthly bills just like they do with every other network that they carry.
Since Ad Revenue is down, many networks are trying to negotiate a higher rate to Cable/Satelite providers to make up for the lack of Ad Revenue due to the economy.
Now...since ABC, CBS, NBC, FOX and CW are technically "free" because they are broadcast networks customers may still be able to "pull the plug" on their cable/satelite boxes and still receive these channels. But since the digital conversion, in order to get these channels you have to have a converter box because the good ol antennae will no longer work.
When you subscribe to cable you are paying for a service to receive the "free" channels along with the non-paid cable channels..premium channels and On Demand channels will always cost extra and will never be included in the "Basic Cable" Plan.
OKay, so ABC is charging Cablevision already, they just want more money (like Scripps)? The way the quote is worded, it's like ABC is "giving" their station away for free to Cablevision.
Yes, just like Scripps. Below are statements from ABC and Cablevision:
ABC
"With the help of our viewers, we've built ABC7 into the most watched station in the country, and have been trying for two years to get Cablevision to acknowledge the station's value to their business. Despite our best efforts, it has now become clear that Cablevision has no intention of coming to a fair agreement. We can no longer sit back and allow Cablevision to use our shows for free while they continue to charge their customers for them. We've worked too hard and invested too many millions of dollars in programming and community outreach, to be taken advantage of any longer – especially since our viewers can watch their favorite ABC7 shows free, over-the-air, or by switching to one of Cablevision's competitors."
Cablevision
"It is shocking that in these difficult economic times, ABC Disney is threatening to remove WABC unless Cablevision and its customers pay $40 million in new fees for programming that it offers today for free, both over-the-air and online. It is not fair for ABC Disney to hold Cablevision customers hostage by forcing them to pay what amounts to a new TV tax. We urge ABC Disney not to pull the plug and instead work with us to reach a fair agreement."
So why don't we hear that FIOS or DirectTV or Dish Network is threatening to pull the plug on Fox, or HGTV or ABC?
If the networks are trying to get more $$ to make up for lost ad revenue, then does that mean that the other cable providers have agreed to pay more for the services and are passing those costs along to their customers?
Is it possible that Cablevision actually the good guy in all of this for sticking to their guns and not wanting to raise their rates?
i hate the propaganda with all this.. the networks appeal to the emotional side, while CV just tries to state the facts. But most viewers react to the emotional appeal and 'side' with the networks without really knowing all the facts
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nraboni
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Re: Is it true that Cablevision won't have channel 7 (ABC) after March 7th?
Posted by Otherme
Posted by nraboni
Posted by headoverheels
Posted by nraboni
Posted by headoverheels
Posted by ave1024
It's the network demanding more money and Cablevision is refusing to raise their rates for their customers.
While I understand this, if ABC is technically "free" (for viewers who don't have cable, verizon, anything) how can Cablevision get away with charging for it? I'm just not sure how this works that's all (I'm going by the quote in the OP).
Its similar to the situation with HGTV/Food.
ABC charges Cablevision a fee per subscriber to broadcast the station throughout the Cablevision footprint. In turn, Cablevision rolls this fee into their monthly bills just like they do with every other network that they carry.
Since Ad Revenue is down, many networks are trying to negotiate a higher rate to Cable/Satelite providers to make up for the lack of Ad Revenue due to the economy.
Now...since ABC, CBS, NBC, FOX and CW are technically "free" because they are broadcast networks customers may still be able to "pull the plug" on their cable/satelite boxes and still receive these channels. But since the digital conversion, in order to get these channels you have to have a converter box because the good ol antennae will no longer work.
When you subscribe to cable you are paying for a service to receive the "free" channels along with the non-paid cable channels..premium channels and On Demand channels will always cost extra and will never be included in the "Basic Cable" Plan.
OKay, so ABC is charging Cablevision already, they just want more money (like Scripps)? The way the quote is worded, it's like ABC is "giving" their station away for free to Cablevision.
Yes, just like Scripps. Below are statements from ABC and Cablevision:
ABC
"With the help of our viewers, we've built ABC7 into the most watched station in the country, and have been trying for two years to get Cablevision to acknowledge the station's value to their business. Despite our best efforts, it has now become clear that Cablevision has no intention of coming to a fair agreement. We can no longer sit back and allow Cablevision to use our shows for free while they continue to charge their customers for them. We've worked too hard and invested too many millions of dollars in programming and community outreach, to be taken advantage of any longer – especially since our viewers can watch their favorite ABC7 shows free, over-the-air, or by switching to one of Cablevision's competitors."
Cablevision
"It is shocking that in these difficult economic times, ABC Disney is threatening to remove WABC unless Cablevision and its customers pay $40 million in new fees for programming that it offers today for free, both over-the-air and online. It is not fair for ABC Disney to hold Cablevision customers hostage by forcing them to pay what amounts to a new TV tax. We urge ABC Disney not to pull the plug and instead work with us to reach a fair agreement."
So why don't we hear that FIOS or DirectTV or Dish Network is threatening to pull the plug on Fox, or HGTV or ABC?
If the networks are trying to get more $$ to make up for lost ad revenue, then does that mean that the other cable providers have agreed to pay more for the services and are passing those costs along to their customers?
Is it possible that Cablevision actually the good guy in all of this for sticking to their guns and not wanting to raise their rates?
i hate the propaganda with all this.. the networks appeal to the emotional side, while CV just tries to state the facts. But most viewers react to the emotional appeal and 'side' with the networks without really knowing all the facts
The reason this is coming up now is because the contract is up for negotiations. Cable Service Providers and Networks sign multi-year contracts and this year happens to be the year that some of their contracts expire and are up for negotiation.
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Re: Is it true that Cablevision won't have channel 7 (ABC) after March 7th?
LOL @ CV... I guess i'm lucky not once but twice i have CV... So the second time in a row CV is having a problem keeping a major channel on board and you still blame networks... In all fairness, its both parties fault. The consumer is who suffers..
If you have a tuner built into your TV, get a 30 dollar indoor antenna and watch your public channels for free in HD...
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Re: Is it true that Cablevision won't have channel 7 (ABC) after March 7th?
I guess we will have to watch soapnet to watch our soaps now that are on channel 7 huh?
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ave1024
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Re: Is it true that Cablevision won't have channel 7 (ABC) after March 7th?
Posted by BabyBoy
LOL @ CV... I guess i'm lucky not once but twice i have CV... So the second time in a row CV is having a problem keeping a major channel on board and you still blame networks... In all fairness, its both parties fault. The consumer is who suffers..
So you think it's perfectly OK for CV to shell out whatever demand a network wants and then pass the cost to the consumer?
And while you think this might be a "second time in a row" for CV... you really have no idea how many SUCCESSFUL contract renewals CV had with other more reasonable networks in the meantime.
Isn't it interesting how the companies that want to pull channels are typically companies that are in a lot of financial trouble? (first Scripps, now Disney).
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Re: Is it true that Cablevision won't have channel 7 (ABC) after March 7th?
I am loving my Direct TV
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Re: Is it true that Cablevision won't have channel 7 (ABC) after March 7th?
Posted by ave1024
So you think it's perfectly OK for CV to shell out whatever demand a network wants and then pass the cost to the consumer?
And while you think this might be a "second time in a row" for CV... you really have no idea how many SUCCESSFUL contract renewals CV had with other more reasonable networks in the meantime.
Isn't it interesting how the companies that want to pull channels are typically companies that are in a lot of financial trouble? (first Scripps, now Disney).
your right... VC shouldn't have to shell out money...then again, there are 3 sides to a story. We people will never know all 3 sides (CV, ABC, Truth)
Im sure they have alot of contract renewals however..2 times in 2 months that a major channel will just walk away..either people are pushing the edge because it was pushed by HGTV/Food networks or CV model is wrong.
With out even knowing the issue, the eye of the consumer will say "NOT AGAIN!" I don't even know the issue but i laugh cause it involves CV. Not saying Verizon is perfect but i'm glad i switched...
The business model has changed greatly. I would think the only place to point the finger would be the internet. I don't the internet is earning enough money to take away from tv though but they are feeling it. Heck, i was watching the latest engagdet show and boxee was talking how nbc hates them (because of hulu) Why pay a cable company when you can just watch it on the net a day later?
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Re: Is it true that Cablevision won't have channel 7 (ABC) after March 7th?
Posted by ave1024
So you think it's perfectly OK for CV to shell out whatever demand a network wants and then pass the cost to the consumer?
I'll be the 1st to admit I don't know much of anything (some would even say nothing )about what's going on
But from what I saw on the news, Cablevision charges it's customers approx $18 a month for basic service but ABC does not receive anything from that. Which they feel isn't fair.
I'm curious to know what Verizon and any other cable option, pays to ABC for their basic cable.
And what CV pays NBC, CBS and all the other basic cabel channels.
Did that make any sense 
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ave1024
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Re: Is it true that Cablevision won't have channel 7 (ABC) after March 7th?
Posted by BabyBoy
With out even knowing the issue, the eye of the consumer will say "NOT AGAIN!" I don't even know the issue but i laugh cause it involves CV. Not saying Verizon is perfect but i'm glad i switched...
The only reason you don't hear this about FIOS is most likely due to the fact that they would NEVER be able to weather a bad PR storm regarding losing a channel.
They are the underdog as Cablevision has the majority of the market. Cablevision can afford to hold out with networks. Verizon can not.
FIOS isn't even a profitable venture for Verizon currently. The only thing keeping Verizon afloat right now is their wireless business.
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Re: Is it true that Cablevision won't have channel 7 (ABC) after March 7th?
Posted by ave1024
Posted by nraboni
Just an FYI...it is only effecting ABC 7 and not any of the Disney/ABC owned cable networks and if Channel 7 does go dark it is because ABC pulled the plug...not Cablevision.
Don't get me wrong...I LOVE ABC! Everything I watch is on that network and I will be pis s ed if it goes dark.
Totally agree. I love how these networks play off viewer's emotions and then people think its Cablevision at fault.
It's the network demanding more money and Cablevision is refusing to raise their rates for their customers.
And the more people think it's the cable company at fault, the more networks will try to strongarm cablevision.
I agree, I think it is great that Cablevision is trying to keep our rates down.
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Re: Is it true that Cablevision won't have channel 7 (ABC) after March 7th?
Posted by luvsbob4603
I guess we will have to watch soapnet to watch our soaps now that are on channel 7 huh?
I seen the advertisment last night on SoapNet so I don't think we will be getting that channel either.
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Re: Is it true that Cablevision won't have channel 7 (ABC) after March 7th?
Cablevision is the evil empire IMO. They suck whatever they can from the consumer.
I don't cry for them.
Verizon has a different business model and they are profitable. They are a different type of company.
Can't compare them but thankfuly I'm no longer getting caught up in the sh!t storm that is Cablevision.
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Re: Is it true that Cablevision won't have channel 7 (ABC) after March 7th?
Did anyone else get a call to do a survey which was obviously promoted by Cablevision on this subject?
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Re: Is it true that Cablevision won't have channel 7 (ABC) after March 7th?
Posted by ave1024
Totally agree. I love how these networks play off viewer's emotions and then people think its Cablevision at fault.
It's the network demanding more money and Cablevision is refusing to raise their rates for their customers.
And the more people think it's the cable company at fault, the more networks will try to strongarm cablevision.
ITA. If Cablevision caves for ABC, it's only a matter of time before other networks' contracts are up and they start demanding more too. NBC, CBS, etc. If Cablevision agreed to such drastic increases with every network, the rates they would have to charge customers to make up for it would be astronomical.
It's not like ABC is asking for mere pennies more and Cablevision is being stubborn. We're talking 40 million more...that's crazy.
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Re: Is it true that Cablevision won't have channel 7 (ABC) after March 7th?
Posted by mommy2Alex
Posted by luvsbob4603
I guess we will have to watch soapnet to watch our soaps now that are on channel 7 huh?
I seen the advertisment last night on SoapNet so I don't think we will be getting that channel either.
This is not effecting any of the Disney/ABC Cable stations. Therefore, ABC Family, ESPN and Soapnet will remain on air. This negotiation is ony with WABC 7 in New York which services NY, NJ and parts of CT.
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Re: Is it true that Cablevision won't have channel 7 (ABC) after March 7th?
Posted by mommy2Alex
I agree, I think it is great that Cablevision is trying to keep our rates down.
From everything I see and hear about CV, they aren't interested in keeping rates down (they seem to have increases constantly)... they want to keep the rate increases to themselves, and not give it to Disney.
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Re: Is it true that Cablevision won't have channel 7 (ABC) after March 7th?
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Posted by ave1024
Totally agree. I love how these networks play off viewer's emotions and then people think its Cablevision at fault.
It's the network demanding more money and Cablevision is refusing to raise their rates for their customers.
And the more people think it's the cable company at fault, the more networks will try to strongarm cablevision.
ITA. If Cablevision caves for ABC, it's only a matter of time before other networks' contracts are up and they start demanding more too. NBC, CBS, etc. If Cablevision agreed to such drastic increases with every network, the rates they would have to charge customers to make up for it would be astronomical.
It's not like ABC is asking for mere pennies more and Cablevision is being stubborn. We're talking 40 million more...that's crazy.
Maybe Dolan could not take his helicopter and private jet everywhere. Then the rate increases wouldn't pass to the consumer.
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Re: Is it true that Cablevision won't have channel 7 (ABC) after March 7th?
Posted by Blu-ize
Maybe Dolan could not take his helicopter and private jet everywhere. Then the rate increases wouldn't pass to the consumer.
Actually if you want to get technical... Jim Dolan no longer runs Cablevision.
Madison Square Garden was spun off into a separate entity from Cablevision last month (stock: MSG) and Jim Dolan now exclusively runs just MSG.
If you want to complain about the Knicks and Rangers raising season ticket prices, then yes maybe you have a case. 
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Re: Is it true that Cablevision won't have channel 7 (ABC) after March 7th?
HGTV and The Food Network a few months again and now this... I just read about it this morning...
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Re: Is it true that Cablevision won't have channel 7 (ABC) after March 7th?
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Posted by ave1024
Posted by nraboni
Just an FYI...it is only effecting ABC 7 and not any of the Disney/ABC owned cable networks and if Channel 7 does go dark it is because ABC pulled the plug...not Cablevision.
Don't get me wrong...I LOVE ABC! Everything I watch is on that network and I will be pis s ed if it goes dark.
Totally agree. I love how these networks play off viewer's emotions and then people think its Cablevision at fault.
It's the network demanding more money and Cablevision is refusing to raise their rates for their customers.
And the more people think it's the cable company at fault, the more networks will try to strongarm cablevision.
I agree, I think it is great that Cablevision is trying to keep our rates down.
I'm sorry, and I'm not saying Cablvision is wrong in this - actaully I think they both are, but the above statement makes me laugh. I don't for a moment believe Cablevision is trying to keep rates down - and CERTAINLY NOT for thier customers benefits!!!! 
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