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twiceasnice
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Re: Is this possibly true? Obama not being allowed to run?
This thing has been around for awhile.
Berg (the filer) has been known to file 1000's of lawsuits. He is actually a Hillary supporter.
I don't think most of this stuff is true, but the Indonesian Passport is true. I haven't researched much of it except that it is a real lawsuit.
Hey to each's own. Some people sue McDonalds, this guy likes Hillary and wants to see her in Obama's place - the whole lawsuit is about fairness to the Democratic voters.
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Posted 10/27/08 5:53 PM |
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Re: Is this possibly true? Obama not being allowed to run?
actually, I think to this day Obama has yet to show his birth certificate showing where he was born. So I dont know that anyone knows for sure.
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Posted 10/27/08 7:07 PM |
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itkocak
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Re: Is this possibly true? Obama not being allowed to run?
Message edited 11/22/2011 6:14:59 PM.
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Posted 10/27/08 7:16 PM |
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MrsERod
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Re: Is this possibly true? Obama not being allowed to run?
Posted by jellybean1420
actually, I think to this day Obama has yet to show his birth certificate showing where he was born. So I dont know that anyone knows for sure.
he wouldn't be able to run for President if he weren't a citizen
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Posted 10/27/08 7:19 PM |
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MrsERod
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Re: Is this possibly true? Obama not being allowed to run?
THANK YOU KEVIN!!!!!!!!!!!
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Posted 10/27/08 7:19 PM |
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Re: Is this possibly true? Obama not being allowed to run?
I just got a similar email with a youtube video about this. I don't know what to think, does make me October Surprise
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Posted 10/28/08 6:53 AM |
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Mommy2Boys
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Re: Is this possibly true? Obama not being allowed to run?
Posted by MrsERod
THANK YOU KEVIN!!!!!!!!!!!
That birth certificate can't possibly be a copy of his actual certificate. It doesnt have a stamped seal. It looks like anyone could have created that.
I'm not saying he's not a citizen...but that document to me does not seem legitimate. I would assume in order to get where he is he would have to produce something proving his place of birth or at least I would hope so.
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Posted 10/28/08 8:15 AM |
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CathyB
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Re: Is this possibly true? Obama not being allowed to run?
Posted by twiceasnice
This is an actual lawsuit that was brought to Obama and the DNC back in September. You are probably hearing about it now because Obama and party was supposed to answer the lawsuit by last Friday and they haven't. His birth is definitely part of the lawsuit but more so it is his citizenships of Kenya and Indonesia that are questioned. Like why were they not denounced and why did he travel on Indonesian Passports when he was supposed to be a US Citizen (Indonesia supposedly does not allow dual citizenship).
That whole subject is a little crazy because to get a Security Clearance in the USA, you can't have dual citizenship.
It seems silly to me, but I don't know how the legal process works. Since it hasn't been thrown out does that mean that the judge thinks it has some merit?
What would happen if they don't answer it?
Or what if they do answer it and a judge doesn't throw it out? Would they have to postpone election results until it's determined that he's able to run?
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Posted 10/28/08 8:41 AM |
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heathergirl
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Re: Is this possibly true? Obama not being allowed to run?
Do we honestly not have anything better to do?
People need to get over it! He's running! He might win! Give it up and let it be!
And if we are going to debate facts, and only facts, why not let it be about something of actual significance.
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Posted 10/28/08 8:47 AM |
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usuk2004
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Re: Is this possibly true? Obama not being allowed to run?
Posted by twiceasnice
This is an actual lawsuit that was brought to Obama and the DNC back in September. You are probably hearing about it now because Obama and party was supposed to answer the lawsuit by last Friday and they haven't. His birth is definitely part of the lawsuit but more so it is his citizenships of Kenya and Indonesia that are questioned. Like why were they not denounced and why did he travel on Indonesian Passports when he was supposed to be a US Citizen (Indonesia supposedly does not allow dual citizenship).
That whole subject is a little crazy because to get a Security Clearance in the USA, you can't have dual citizenship.
You don't need to denounce citizenship of other countries in order to retain your US citizenship. The US just doesn't recognize any other citizenships - and it's not necessarily an issue for security clearance. However, traveling on something other than a US passport might be, although there's no evidence to support that he did travel on an Indonesian passport - or that he ever had one to begin with (he traveled to Pakistan when he was in college and apparently it would've been difficult for a US citizen to enter that country at that time so the assumption is he must've had an Indonesian passport). Or that he was actually an Indonesian citizen. Apparently Indonesia has a bylaw which states that if you leave the country for 5 years, you must declare an intention to return or risk losing your citizenship.
Regardless of all of this, he was a minor during his time in Indonesia.
Message edited 10/28/2008 9:20:23 AM.
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Posted 10/28/08 9:18 AM |
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usuk2004
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Re: Is this possibly true? Obama not being allowed to run?
Posted by jellybean1420
Posted by MrsERod
THANK YOU KEVIN!!!!!!!!!!!
That birth certificate can't possibly be a copy of his actual certificate. It doesnt have a stamped seal. It looks like anyone could have created that.
I'm not saying he's not a citizen...but that document to me does not seem legitimate. I would assume in order to get where he is he would have to produce something proving his place of birth or at least I would hope so.
factcheck.org
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Posted 10/28/08 9:45 AM |
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Luv2bAmom
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Re: Is this possibly true? Obama not being allowed to run?
***!!! Give it up already,he is running, and he is probably gonna win!
I'ts ridicolous- we have questioned his RELIGION, his PATRIOTISM, and now his CITIZENSHIP!!
I mean seriously all we need now is to question if he is infact human, cause you know I heard that no one really witnessed his birth, so maybe he materialized from out of space
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Posted 10/28/08 10:08 AM |
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Re: Is this possibly true? Obama not being allowed to run?
Posted by Luv2bAmom
Give it up already,he is running, and he is probably gonna win!
I agree....
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Posted 10/28/08 10:09 AM |
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Tulips915
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Re: Is this possibly true? Obama not being allowed to run?
Posted by Luv2bAmom
I mean seriously all we need now is to question if he is infact human, cause you know I heard that no one really witnessed his birth, so maybe he materialized from out of space
I heard thats true
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Posted 10/28/08 10:10 AM |
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usuk2004
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Re: Is this possibly true? Obama not being allowed to run?
Posted by Luv2bAmom
***!!! Give it up already,he is running, and he is probably gonna win!
I'ts ridicolous- we have questioned his RELIGION, his PATRIOTISM, and now his CITIZENSHIP!!
I mean seriously all we need now is to question if he is infact human, cause you know I heard that no one really witnessed his birth, so maybe he materialized from out of space
actually, I heard he's really a woman.
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Posted 10/28/08 10:12 AM |
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Luv2bAmom
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Re: Is this possibly true? Obama not being allowed to run?
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Posted by Luv2bAmom
***!!! Give it up already,he is running, and he is probably gonna win!
I'ts ridicolous- we have questioned his RELIGION, his PATRIOTISM, and now his CITIZENSHIP!!
I mean seriously all we need now is to question if he is infact human, cause you know I heard that no one really witnessed his birth, so maybe he materialized from out of space
actually, I heard he's really a woman.
Hey anything to ge the Hillary vote
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Posted 10/28/08 10:14 AM |
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cjik
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Re: Is this possibly true? Obama not being allowed to run?
His birth certificate has been on display on his website for months:
Birth Certificate
So no, he has not been hiding information about his citizenship as a pp suggested.
Get over it, he's a citizen, he's running.
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Posted 10/28/08 10:16 AM |
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MrsERod
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Re: Is this possibly true? Obama not being allowed to run?
Posted by Luv2bAmom
***!!! Give it up already,he is running, and he is probably gonna win!
I'ts ridicolous- we have questioned his RELIGION, his PATRIOTISM, and now his CITIZENSHIP!!
I mean seriously all we need now is to question if he is infact human, cause you know I heard that no one really witnessed his birth, so maybe he materialized from out of space
although i do agree with you with regards to the constant scrutiny about his religion, patriotism, citizenship, etc... - it IS ridiculous at this point.
However, it aint over till it's over. I do NOT want to count my chickens before they hatch, because you just NEVER know how this election will turn out!
As much as I'd like to see Obama become our next President - there's still a small part of me that thinks that the prejudice and ignorant citizens of this country will come out in DROVES, just to vote AGAINST him.
I hope i'm wrong.
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Posted 10/28/08 10:18 AM |
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Luv2bAmom
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Re: Is this possibly true? Obama not being allowed to run?
Posted by MrsERod
Posted by Luv2bAmom
***!!! Give it up already,he is running, and he is probably gonna win!
I'ts ridicolous- we have questioned his RELIGION, his PATRIOTISM, and now his CITIZENSHIP!!
I mean seriously all we need now is to question if he is infact human, cause you know I heard that no one really witnessed his birth, so maybe he materialized from out of space
although i do agree with you with regards to the constant scrutiny about his religion, patriotism, citizenship, etc... - it IS ridiculous at this point.
However, it aint over till it's over. I do NOT want to count my chickens before they hatch, because you just NEVER know how this election will turn out!
As much as I'd like to see Obama become our next President - there's still a small part of me that thinks that the prejudice and ignorant citizens of this country will come out in DROVES, just to vote AGAINST him.
I hope i'm wrong.
I must admit you are right, there is a part of me that beleives the Polls may be wrong or misleading, possibly due to a "Bradley effect"
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Posted 10/28/08 10:21 AM |
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cjik
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Re: Is this possibly true? Obama not being allowed to run?
Posted by jellybean1420
Posted by MrsERod
THANK YOU KEVIN!!!!!!!!!!!
That birth certificate can't possibly be a copy of his actual certificate. It doesnt have a stamped seal. It looks like anyone could have created that.
I'm not saying he's not a citizen...but that document to me does not seem legitimate. I would assume in order to get where he is he would have to produce something proving his place of birth or at least
OMG, I missed this. You are really grasping at straws.
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Posted 10/28/08 10:23 AM |
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GoldenRod
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Re: Is this possibly true? Obama not being allowed to run?
Here's some "proof" for you.... I knew he had super powers!
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Posted 10/28/08 10:25 AM |
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Tulips915
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Re: Is this possibly true? Obama not being allowed to run?
Posted by GoldenRod
Here's some "proof" for you.... I knew he had super powers!
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OMG!
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Posted 10/28/08 10:25 AM |
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usuk2004
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Re: Is this possibly true? Obama not being allowed to run?
Posted by GoldenRod
Here's some "proof" for you.... I knew he had super powers!
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There goes my woman theory!
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Posted 10/28/08 10:33 AM |
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GoldenRod
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Re: Is this possibly true? Obama not being allowed to run?
Posted by usuk2004
Posted by GoldenRod
Here's some "proof" for you.... I knew he had super powers!
There goes my woman theory!
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Posted 10/28/08 10:36 AM |
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usuk2004
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Re: Is this possibly true? Obama not being allowed to run?
Posted by GoldenRod
Posted by usuk2004
Posted by GoldenRod
Here's some "proof" for you.... I knew he had super powers!
There goes my woman theory!
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OMG!!!!!!!
that looks like a freeze frame gone wrong from the Michael Jackson video Black Or White
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Posted 10/28/08 10:39 AM |
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