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pinkandblue
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Re: Is this possibly true? Obama not being allowed to run?
Posted by DKF1016
Just a random side thought...do you think Obama would pass a FBI background check? 
sure do.
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Re: Is this possibly true? Obama not being allowed to run?
Posted by DKF1016
Just a random side thought...do you think Obama would pass a FBI background check?
OMG  
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| Posted 10/28/08 4:08 PM |
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twiceasnice
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Re: Is this possibly true? Obama not being allowed to run?
Posted by usuk2004
Posted by twiceasnice
Sorry I am not wrong about Clearance. If you have the ability to get citizenship in another country and not actually have (per se your parent was born in Ireland) - You must denounce that also.
Sorry but you ARE wrong. If you show willingness to renounce it may mitigate any concerns over your allegiance, but you don't actually have to.
Google it - you'll find plenty of evidence.
Here's one site in particular
The "don't actually have to part" is quite relevant because you do have to. Like Ophelia pointed out there are different levels.
I like your link but I am not talking about Civil Servants or Foreign Servants for recruitment/employment/assignments.
When he is investigated he will have to denounce any possible citizenships (i.e Kenyan one because his dad was Kenyan). It is quite common. Lots of people I know have parents born in other countries and they were in the same boat as Obama.
As for getting the clearance - Sure I think he will. The FBI will debunk the whole lawsuit by investigating him, they will even know what type of toilet paper he uses.
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Ophelia
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Re: Is this possibly true? Obama not being allowed to run?
just in case it wasn't clear, a US Senator IS a federal employee.
and has extremely HIGH level security clearance.
if we put those two concepts together...he was ALREADY cleared and has satisfied ANY requirements of that clearance.
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| Posted 10/28/08 4:27 PM |
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twiceasnice
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Re: Is this possibly true? Obama not being allowed to run?
Posted by Ophelia
just in case it wasn't clear, a US Senator IS a federal employee.
and has extremely HIGH level security clearance.
if we put those two concepts together...he was ALREADY cleared and has satisfied ANY requirements of that clearance.
Great Point! Then this lawsuit should have been debunked already.
The intelligence type clearances (that I am assumming a Senator "Doesn't need to Know") would go deeper into what he may already have.
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| Posted 10/28/08 4:30 PM |
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JennZ
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Re: Is this possibly true? Obama not being allowed to run?
I can't believe this is 4 pages.
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| Posted 10/28/08 4:31 PM |
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Ophelia
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remember, when Gulliver traveled....
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Re: Is this possibly true? Obama not being allowed to run?
Posted by twiceasnice
Posted by Ophelia
just in case it wasn't clear, a US Senator IS a federal employee.
and has extremely HIGH level security clearance.
if we put those two concepts together...he was ALREADY cleared and has satisfied ANY requirements of that clearance.
Great Point! Then this lawsuit should have been debunked already.
The intelligence type clearances (that I am assumming a Senator "Doesn't need to Know") would go deeper into what he may already have.
every suit that goes before the court has to run its course.
don't mistake that for the "truth" of the matter.
oh who cares. people are probably PRAYING Obama turns to Mecca at sunset in secret. it's friggin disgusting.
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| Posted 10/28/08 4:33 PM |
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MrsERod
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Re: Is this possibly true? Obama not being allowed to run?
Posted by Ophelia
oh who cares. people are probably PRAYING Obama turns to Mecca at sunset in secret. it's friggin disgusting.
yes it is.
disgusting and sad that people actually wish that he not be allowed to run.
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| Posted 10/28/08 4:36 PM |
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Re: Is this possibly true? Obama not being allowed to run?
Posted by JennZ
I can't believe this is 4 pages.
I was thinking the same thing but look what we all figured out together.
A US Senator needs a US Federal background check and if Obama wasn't born in Hawaii then the FBI knows already. If that were true he would not be on the ticket!
 Congrats to All!
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| Posted 10/28/08 4:36 PM |
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Re: Is this possibly true? Obama not being allowed to run?
Message edited 11/22/2011 6:17:52 PM.
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Jenn627
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Re: Is this possibly true? Obama not being allowed to run?
Question for those questioning Obama's associations - do you think our govt has it's head up their asss?
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| Posted 10/28/08 4:44 PM |
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Luv2bAmom
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Re: Is this possibly true? Obama not being allowed to run?
Posted by twiceasnice
Posted by JennZ
I can't believe this is 4 pages.
I was thinking the same thing but look what we all figured out together.
A US Senator needs a US Federal background check and if Obama wasn't born in Hawaii then the FBI knows already. If that were true he would not be on the ticket!
Congrats to All!
What I have learned is that many people are STILL grasping at straws, and probably will be till Nov 4th!!!
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Blazesyth
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Re: Is this possibly true? Obama not being allowed to run?
Posted by Jenn627
Question for those questioning Obama's associations - do you think our govt has it's head up their asss?
 Are you sure you want people to answer this?
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| Posted 10/28/08 4:47 PM |
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JennZ
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Re: Is this possibly true? Obama not being allowed to run?
Posted by Luv2bAmom
Posted by twiceasnice
Posted by JennZ
I can't believe this is 4 pages.
I was thinking the same thing but look what we all figured out together.
A US Senator needs a US Federal background check and if Obama wasn't born in Hawaii then the FBI knows already. If that were true he would not be on the ticket!
Congrats to All!
What I have learned is that many people are STILL grasping at straws, and probably will be till Nov 4th!!!
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| Posted 10/28/08 4:50 PM |
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Cpt2007
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Re: Is this possibly true? Obama not being allowed to run?
Posted by Luv2bAmom
Posted by twiceasnice
Posted by JennZ
I can't believe this is 4 pages.
I was thinking the same thing but look what we all figured out together.
A US Senator needs a US Federal background check and if Obama wasn't born in Hawaii then the FBI knows already. If that were true he would not be on the ticket!
Congrats to All!
What I have learned is that many people are STILL grasping at straws, and probably will be till Nov 4th!!!
Correction-- if O is elected, it will be happening until 11:59:00am on January 20th right before he gets sworn in!
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| Posted 10/28/08 4:50 PM |
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usuk2004
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Re: Is this possibly true? Obama not being allowed to run?
Posted by twiceasnice
Posted by usuk2004
Posted by twiceasnice
Sorry I am not wrong about Clearance. If you have the ability to get citizenship in another country and not actually have (per se your parent was born in Ireland) - You must denounce that also.
Sorry but you ARE wrong. If you show willingness to renounce it may mitigate any concerns over your allegiance, but you don't actually have to.
Google it - you'll find plenty of evidence.
Here's one site in particular
The "don't actually have to part" is quite relevant because you do have to. Like Ophelia pointed out there are different levels.
I like your link but I am not talking about Civil Servants or Foreign Servants for recruitment/employment/assignments.
When he is investigated he will have to denounce any possible citizenships (i.e Kenyan one because his dad was Kenyan). It is quite common. Lots of people I know have parents born in other countries and they were in the same boat as Obama.
As for getting the clearance - Sure I think he will. The FBI will debunk the whole lawsuit by investigating him, they will even know what type of toilet paper he uses.
I'd love to know where this information is written. I am a dual citizen and I know as much as I can about the process, my rights, etc because I was very concerned about what becoming a citizen of another country would mean for my US citizenship. A good friend of mine who works for the FBI even had to declare her relationship with me and my husband for her security clearance. Everything that I can find about this subject is very non-committal. They've left it open with lots of "mays" and "may nots" because ultimately it is up to the interpretation and the discretion of the person or persons performing the check.
Here's a White House Memo on the subject. Although again, it doesn't specify which level of clearance ie the president would need Top Secret
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Re: Is this possibly true? Obama not being allowed to run?
Posted by imthekevinofcindyandkevin
My question is sothefuckwhat if he IS Muslim?
Muslims believe in one God and Jesus just as Christians do.
Being Muslim is not a bad thing.
Wiki
I know several wonderful people who are Muslim.
Seriously, if he had skeletons in his closet, wouldn't they have been exposed by now? I can't believe this is still coming up.
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MrsERod
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Re: Is this possibly true? Obama not being allowed to run?
Posted by usuk2004
Here's a White House Memo on the subject. Although again, it doesn't specify which level of clearance ie the president would need Top Secret
farah, that link didn't work....
White House Memo
hth
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2PreciousBlessings
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Re: Is this possibly true? Obama not being allowed to run?
Posted by Mikismom
Posted by DKF1016
Just a random side thought...do you think Obama would pass a FBI background check?
sure do.
Um, why wouldn't he pass?? My heart bleeds from reading some posts that screams ignorance.
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Superkat
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Re: Is this possibly true? Obama not being allowed to run?
Posted by MrsERod
Posted by Ophelia
oh who cares. people are probably PRAYING Obama turns to Mecca at sunset in secret. it's friggin disgusting.
yes it is.
disgusting and sad that people actually wish that he not be allowed to run.
Exactly right. Disgusting. Whether you chose to vote for a candidate or not, it is sad that someone would WISH that they were not allowed to run. So much for democracy.
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Candy Girl
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Re: Is this possibly true? Obama not being allowed to run?
Posted by MrsProfessor
Posted by imthekevinofcindyandkevin
My question is sothefuckwhat if he IS Muslim?
Muslims believe in one God and Jesus just as Christians do.
Being Muslim is not a bad thing.
Wiki
I know several wonderful people who are Muslim.
Seriously, if he had skeletons in his closet, wouldn't they have been exposed by now? I can't believe this is still coming up.
Thank you for posting this. I was going to start a whole separate post about this because it is really bothering me.
Why is it ok to use being Muslim as a reason one shouldn't be trusted or be allowed to run for president or be voted for IF he is running for president? Also, people shouldn't have to defend Obama by saying that he is NOT Muslim. being Muslim is not something that needs a defense.
Sometimes I think that because people can't attack or question Obama's worthiness because of his color (it is taboo, they would be called a racist etc.) they use "Muslim" as a substitute. (And before anyone says it, I am NOT saying that if you do not support Obama you are a racist or aren't supporting him b/c of his skin color.)
Sometimes these posts make me depressed. People are still so uninformed, narrow minded, prejudiced and mean.
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VirginiaDeb
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Re: Is this possibly true? Obama not being allowed to run?
Posted by Blazesyth
Posted by Jenn627
Question for those questioning Obama's associations - do you think our govt has it's head up their asss?
Are you sure you want people to answer this?
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| Posted 10/28/08 6:03 PM |
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Re: Is this possibly true? Obama not being allowed to run?
Posted by Snickers
Posted by MrsProfessor
Posted by imthekevinofcindyandkevin
My question is sothefuckwhat if he IS Muslim?
Muslims believe in one God and Jesus just as Christians do.
Being Muslim is not a bad thing.
Wiki
I know several wonderful people who are Muslim.
Seriously, if he had skeletons in his closet, wouldn't they have been exposed by now? I can't believe this is still coming up.
Thank you for posting this. I was going to start a whole separate post about this because it is really bothering me.
Why is it ok to use being Muslim as a reason one shouldn't be trusted or be allowed to run for president or be voted for IF he is running for president? Also, people shouldn't have to defend Obama by saying that he is NOT Muslim. being Muslim is not something that needs a defense.
Sometimes I think that because people can't attack or question Obama's worthiness because of his color (it is taboo, they would be called a racist etc.) they use "Muslim" as a substitute. (And before anyone says it, I am NOT saying that if you do not support Obama you are a racist or aren't supporting him b/c of his skin color.)
Sometimes these posts make me depressed. People are still so uninformed, narrow minded, prejudiced and mean.
THANK YOU!!!
ITA!
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2PreciousBlessings
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Re: Is this possibly true? Obama not being allowed to run?
Posted by Snickers
Posted by MrsProfessor
Posted by imthekevinofcindyandkevin
My question is sothefuckwhat if he IS Muslim?
Muslims believe in one God and Jesus just as Christians do.
Being Muslim is not a bad thing.
Wiki
I know several wonderful people who are Muslim.
Seriously, if he had skeletons in his closet, wouldn't they have been exposed by now? I can't believe this is still coming up.
Thank you for posting this. I was going to start a whole separate post about this because it is really bothering me.
Why is it ok to use being Muslim as a reason one shouldn't be trusted or be allowed to run for president or be voted for IF he is running for president? Also, people shouldn't have to defend Obama by saying that he is NOT Muslim. being Muslim is not something that needs a defense.
Sometimes I think that because people can't attack or question Obama's worthiness because of his color (it is taboo, they would be called a racist etc.) they use "Muslim" as a substitute. (And before anyone says it, I am NOT saying that if you do not support Obama you are a racist or aren't supporting him b/c of his skin color.)
Sometimes these posts make me depressed. People are still so uninformed, narrow minded, prejudiced and mean.
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usuk2004
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Re: Is this possibly true? Obama not being allowed to run?
Posted by Snickers
Posted by MrsProfessor
Posted by imthekevinofcindyandkevin
My question is sothefuckwhat if he IS Muslim?
Muslims believe in one God and Jesus just as Christians do.
Being Muslim is not a bad thing.
Wiki
I know several wonderful people who are Muslim.
Seriously, if he had skeletons in his closet, wouldn't they have been exposed by now? I can't believe this is still coming up.
Thank you for posting this. I was going to start a whole separate post about this because it is really bothering me.
Why is it ok to use being Muslim as a reason one shouldn't be trusted or be allowed to run for president or be voted for IF he is running for president? Also, people shouldn't have to defend Obama by saying that he is NOT Muslim. being Muslim is not something that needs a defense.
You're so right! ITA! It always makes me angry when I hear is he a Muslim? or he isn't a Muslim.
This country was founded by people who were seeking religious freedom, why is it that we're so skeptical of any president who is not Christian 
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