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pmpkn087
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Re: Jenny McCarthy & Holly Robinson Peete discuss their sons autism on Oprah today
Posted by lipglossjunky73
On the jacket it says he completely recovered - thats all I read....
I have seen some kids considered recovered.... Its never really truly "recovered" - I have seen some wonderful success stories, but it takes constant work asnd its never a "finished" process....
That's exactly what she was saying. And, of course, for legal reasons I'm sure, she and Oprah kept saying 'what worked for ME. this doen's mean it's a given for everyone.'
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pmpkn087
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Re: Jenny McCarthy & Holly Robinson Peete discuss their sons autism on Oprah today
Posted by lipglossjunky73
Posted by BlessedMommy
I give both women credit for speaking publicly about the trials and tribulations of having a child with autism. I'm sure they've helped alot of other moms out there today.
I supprt any parent raising a child with autism and reaching out to the community. I just worry about the confusion that goes hand in hand with the information that they give....
I agree, Liza. The thing we have to remember is not to take these people's word as medically proven advice.
However, I do think it's great that they are talking about it. Especially because Jenny went through this basically alone. She is telling other moms that they don't have to be alone.
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| Posted 9/18/07 9:28 PM |
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InShock
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Re: Jenny McCarthy & Holly Robinson Peete discuss their sons autism on Oprah today
Posted by Claud
MPO is that the timing of when the MMR is typically given and autism signs tend to emerge is what causes some parents believe there is a correlation, coupled with their (very understandable)emotional need to "blame" something.
This is my belief as well. It almost seems obvious, yet I rarely hear it stated.
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| Posted 9/18/07 9:32 PM |
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Mommy2Boys
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Re: Jenny McCarthy & Holly Robinson Peete discuss their sons autism on Oprah today
I think any parent would try and do anything possible to help their child when diagnosed with autism or anything else for that matter. It seems as if her son has made tremendous improvements and she has tried a variety of different methods to get him there. I give kudos to her! Whether it is proven by the CDC or dr's, I dont think it really matters. A parents knows there child better than anyone else. I worked with a woman at my old job who also swore the MMR shot caused her son to develop autism. She also had him on a strict diet and said she saw drastic improvements with it. She also did various therapies like Jenny McCarthy that helped her son.
IMO, I think the MMR shot can have an adverse affect on certain children, however, I also think there are other genetic and environmental links to autism. I think it can be a combination of things. But I personally will take precaution wherever I can which includes splitting up DS's shots, only using drop-in bottles b/c of the problems with the plastic, etc. Maybe I am a little neurotic, but I dont want to have to look back one day and think I should have or could have done something differently.
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| Posted 9/18/07 9:41 PM |
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dandr10199
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Re: Jenny McCarthy & Holly Robinson Peete discuss their sons autism on Oprah today
Posted by jellybean1420
. Maybe I am a little neurotic, but I dont want to have to look back one day and think I should have or could have done something differently.
ITA! Well said! 
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Diane
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Re: Jenny McCarthy & Holly Robinson Peete discuss their sons autism on Oprah today
Posted by beachgirl
So she believes that there is a link between the MMR and her son getting autism....another mom who believes this...another reason why I am holding off on giving my DD the MMR.
IMO there are too many moms who say the light went off after the MMR shot and I firmly believe that even if there is a 1/2 % chance that the two are related its too high.
I know...I used to work with children with autism and mnay moms said the same thing. Im holding off on the shots as well.
Not sure if that is the case as well, I do believe it is also genetic and believe there is some type of immune deficiency.
Im just weary because everytime my boys get their shots they always get some reaction, so Im scared to death with the MMR shots.
I do agree I believe they should be held off till they are 2. Mine will allow me to hold it off till they are 15-18 months.
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Ang-Rich
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Re: Jenny McCarthy & Holly Robinson Peete discuss their sons autism on Oprah today
DH and I watched this last night...I looked across at him...he looked across at me and you could sense the fear between us. Mostly it's the fear of the unknown. We know so little about Autism and so we fear it. Hearing that the doctor's told Holly that her son would never say I love you to her just killed me.
It's to the point that I don't know what to do. I am assuming that we received these same shots and we were fine. And while people talk about 1 in 150 children being diagnosed with autism, I can't help but recognize that 149 out of 150 do not. Also...Cancer used to be such a rare thing but over time more understanding came about and now it's almost impossible to meet someone who has not been affected by cancer in some way. I wonder if that is the same with autism...children who were once labeled mentally challenged are now relabelled as autistic? I tell myself - maybe that's why there is a drastic change in the numbers...realization has changed...but maybe nothing else. Maybe there has always been the same true statistic...just no one understood it then.
See...I go try so hard to rationalize it...but the truth is...I am so confused 
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Re: Jenny McCarthy & Holly Robinson Peete discuss their sons autism on Oprah today
Posted by pmpkn087
Posted by lipglossjunky73
Posted by BlessedMommy
I give both women credit for speaking publicly about the trials and tribulations of having a child with autism. I'm sure they've helped alot of other moms out there today.
I supprt any parent raising a child with autism and reaching out to the community. I just worry about the confusion that goes hand in hand with the information that they give....
I agree, Liza. The thing we have to remember is not to take these people's word as medically proven advice.
However, I do think it's great that they are talking about it. Especially because Jenny went through this basically alone. She is telling other moms that they don't have to be alone.
Exactly
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MommyofG
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Re: Jenny McCarthy & Holly Robinson Peete discuss their sons autism on Oprah today
I treat many many kids that have autism. We actually have 2 schools of kids that come to my office for their dental treatment.
with that said, we have heard many many stories/opinions and about 60% of these children are siblings.
Welp, the younger siblings that were NOT vaccinated at all have autism.
These parents believed too that the mmr gave their child autism or some spectrum of it.
Guess what, it didnt b/c these children still got it without that vaccine.
The correlation is the timing. The MMR is given at the same time in age when the changes in the childs behavior begin. Its like a ticking clock inside of these children and at a certain age click it goes off.
I cant tell you how many of these parents are also into Holistic medicine, herbal this and that, and the child still got autism.
Some parents are in denial and yes do look to blame something or someone.
Many of them said they noticed signs early on- anti social, stranger anxiety- still after they have met the same person over and over, didnt respond to their name, did not meet milestones, would stare and stare into space, these are some of the things we have heard from moms.
We ask every parent about the autism ( their beliefs as well) b/c every child with autism is very different and will need different treatment. Some hate loud noices, a bright light, dont like anyone in the room, etc.
I count my blessing everyday b/c I see what this behavioral disorder can do to a family.
So far the new theory is believed to be the mothers age( can be father too) and the mother passes the gene to the child in utero. Its a gene that as the child grows it mutates itself causing a behavioral change. Genes and the environment are believed to play a role.
2 children get the MMR vacinne at the same time, what makes 1 get autism and not the other?
where is the scientific proof that MMR infact causes autism? there isnt.
The only change or something new these parents are going by is hmm what did my DC eat/drink/play with/ come into contact with/ medicines- ah they had the MMR shot that must be it.
So let me ask you ladies this, if the CDC changed the time frame of when to administer the MMR vaccine and 100's of children are still being diagnosed with autism well before that shot would you still feel the same way of not vaccinating or waiting/splitting up with this particular vaccine?
I'm just curious.
I was going to wait to give it to DD b/c I too was being sucked into this media frenzy about it but after seeing how many children are NOT getting this vaccine as scheduled makes me very nervous too.
Have you seen what it looks like? and what it can do? I have, very scary.
Europe just had an outbreak of the measles, scarlet fever has come back in the US, some dummy flys from canada to the US with a severe case of TB.
we have to protect our children
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casey31
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Re: Jenny McCarthy & Holly Robinson Peete discuss their sons autism on Oprah today
Personally, I think it is a combo of genetics and the vaccine.
I think depending on the "dose" of the genetics that the child has, the vaccine might be the thing that brings it out- if they didn't get the vaccine, maybe they wouldn't slide into the autism spectrum.
but, some kids have a heavier dose and even without the vaccine, will have autism.
Kids without the genetic predisposition will not be affected by the vaccine.
without knowing Matty's genetic predisposition we will delay and split the shots.
it's all so scary. 
This is JMO- I have no idea really- I researched it a little because I was scared about Matty's head circumference- the research says that children with autism tend to have very small head circumferences that grow very large before 6 months. He was in the 25% and now is in the 50% so I freaked out. He has no words yet and won't clap or wave but he giggles and makes eye contact and is cruising the furniture and knows how to play ball- but it is so scary so I won't risk the traditional MMR. My prayers are with all families who are dealing with this heartache.
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GoldenRod
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Re: Jenny McCarthy & Holly Robinson Peete discuss their sons autism on Oprah today
Posted by casey31
Personally, I think it is a combo of genetics and the vaccine.
I think depending on the "dose" of the genetics that the child has, the vaccine might be the thing that brings it out- if they didn't get the vaccine, maybe they wouldn't slide into the autism spectrum.
but, some kids have a heavier dose and even without the vaccine, will have autism.
Kids without the genetic predisposition will not be affected by the vaccine.
without knowing Matty's genetic predisposition we will delay and split the shots.
it's all so scary.
This is JMO- I have no idea really- I researched it a little because I was scared about Matty's head circumference- the research says that children with autism tend to have very small head circumferences that grow very large before 6 months. He was in the 25% and now is in the 50% so I freaked out. He has no words yet and won't clap or wave but he giggles and makes eye contact and is cruising the furniture and knows how to play ball- but it is so scary so I won't risk the traditional MMR. My prayers are with all families who are dealing with this heartache.
I know all of this is frightening for all parents. I went through the same thing with DS for the first few years....
Your DS's head doesn't sound like anything out of the ordinary. Next time he gets measured, see how "accurate" the measurements are.... it's a squirming baby, and it's a round(ish) object they are measuring. They never get the measurements exact. The difference between 25th and 50th is very tiny, also, so two measurements within 5 minutes could jump a few dozen percent.
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casey31
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Re: Jenny McCarthy & Holly Robinson Peete discuss their sons autism on Oprah today
Posted by GoldenRod
I know all of this is frightening for all parents. I went through the same thing with DS for the first few years....
Your DS's head doesn't sound like anything out of the ordinary. Next time he gets measured, see how "accurate" the measurements are.... it's a squirming baby, and it's a round(ish) object they are measuring. They never get the measurements exact. The difference between 25th and 50th is very tiny, also, so two measurements within 5 minutes could jump a few dozen percent.
Wow- thank you- I never thought about how accurate the measurements are- or how close the difference is between percentages. Thank you- this really made me feel better. Deep down I believe he is fine but I get scared about his lack of waving and clapping- and he is nine months and JUST started saying consonants- just a little. Thank you so much for your thoughts!
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LuvMyBoys
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Re: Jenny McCarthy & Holly Robinson Peete discuss their sons autism on Oprah today
YOu know what I find so heartbreaking & scares me the most, is when you hear parents of autistic kids say that their babies were fine , smiling, playing and then they start to retreat into their own world.
I see my son now and how happy, playful, he even cracks up when I do silly things to make him smile, and to thik that something could take that away, is just so scary.
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Re: Jenny McCarthy & Holly Robinson Peete discuss their sons autism on Oprah today
Measles and mumps are not in and of themselves dealy, crippling or life altering diseases- for most. Do I want my DD to get them, of course not- who wants their child to be umcomfortable? But with so many UNANSWERED question abotu the correlation, you better believe I've delayed those shots.
The agencies that are saying there is no correlation all stand to benefit financially and professionally from the continuous use of vaccines. That doesn't make anyone suspicious?
And lets not forget, medicine is a evolving science. There was a time when they didn't think smoking while pregnant was bad, or that living near toxic dumps caused cancer. Just because 'they' say its OK doesn't nescessarily mean that it is.
Just sayin....
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AlohaMa
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Re: Jenny McCarthy & Holly Robinson Peete discuss their sons autism on Oprah today
Posted by jgm26
Measles and mumps are not in and of themselves dealy, crippling or life altering diseases- for most. Do I want my DD to get them, of course not- who wants their child to be umcomfortable? But with so many UNANSWERED question abotu the correlation, you better believe I've delayed those shots.
The agencies that are saying there is no correlation all stand to benefit financially and professionally from the continuous use of vaccines. That doesn't make anyone suspicious?
And lets not forget, medicine is a evolving science. There was a time when they didn't think smoking while pregnant was bad, or that living near toxic dumps caused cancer. Just because 'they' say its OK doesn't nescessarily mean that it is.
Just sayin....
Medicine does evolve, thankfully. How else would we have preventitive measures when it comes to deadly diseases. Yes, they are deadly, and because of the vaccines, the number of diagnoses and fatalities have steadily decreased. That doesn't just happen...
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Re: Jenny McCarthy & Holly Robinson Peete discuss their sons autism on Oprah today
i don't want to add anything controversial but i do want to give to all the parents that are faced with the confusion over this.... it is so hard to understand!!
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JenBenMen
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Re: Jenny McCarthy & Holly Robinson Peete discuss their sons autism on Oprah today
Posted by Aga
thanks, I set my dvr!
gonna tape it
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Re: Jenny McCarthy & Holly Robinson Peete discuss their sons autism on Oprah today
Posted by JenBenMen
Posted by Aga
thanks, I set my dvr!
gonna tape it
It was on yesterday.
Justin Timberlake is on today, which I also set my DVR for
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kristen92450
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Re: Jenny McCarthy & Holly Robinson Peete discuss their sons autism on Oprah today
I have been very stressed since the Oprah episode.. I think it was a Very valuable episode because it opened up awareness to people who didn't know much about autism etc.. Maybe it will help in expanding research on a VERY scary topic.. MY daughter is due for the MMR in a few months and I am so torn on what to do... I don't even know my ped view on splitting them up.. to all parents...including myself..what a tough job sometimes.
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