Re: Josh Duggar responds- Resigns from JOb

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Re: Josh Duggar responds- Resigns from JOb

It's not for any of us or the public to forgive him- the only ones who have that right are the women he abused.

Regardless this is disgusting- those parents make me sick. It shows how you really can't effectively parent, or at least supervise- 19 kids. They failed those girls. Anyone who says they are good parents is completely wrong- they are good at protecting their bank account and nothing else.

Even now there seems to be no concern for the girls, just him and how he is affected.

Josh Duggar responds- Resigns from JOb

I think it's his age and the age gap in general that makes it a molestation/ unforgivable type thing. If I heard a 9 year old boy touched his 7 year old sister I'd be more apt to say oh he was a curious kid and made a mistake. 15 on 4 imo shows a sickness.

Josh Duggar responds- Resigns from JOb

I'm beyond disgusted by that church sexual abuse worksheet/handout. #4 has me burning in fury!!!!! :bag:

Re: Josh Duggar responds- Resigns from JOb

Josh Duggar responds- Resigns from JOb

It seems like the Duggar parents have become more conservative as the kids got older. Michelle wore pants and tank tops when she and JB were married.
I wonder if the side hugs and courtship rules blossomed out of these horrific acts josh committed? Maybe in their own sick way they were trying to protect the girls from the boys.
The second oldest boy has not been involved much with the show for a while, maybe he got sent away somewhere too.
I'm only speculating but it seems( maybe creative editing) that Jill in particular has a very close relationship with Anna, Josh and their children. Is it possible that she really forgave him?
I feel so terrible for the girls that they have to relive this through the media, it's got to be enough of a nightmare to go thru it privately. I can't imagine the entire world knowing something so personal. They were just little girls, it's so wrong that this had to come out all these years later.

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Re: Josh Duggar responds- Resigns from JOb

Posted by MrsProfessor

It's not for any of us or the public to forgive him- the only ones who have that right are the women he abused.

Regardless this is disgusting- those parents make me sick. It shows how you really can't effectively parent, or at least supervise- 19 kids. They failed those girls. Anyone who says they are good parents is completely wrong- they are good at protecting their bank account and nothing else.

Even now there seems to be no concern for the girls, just him and how he is affected.

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Posted by MC09

Posted by afternoondelight828

Posted by DandN

I'm struck by the line that Jim Bob and Michelle gave, "Josh's decisions almost ruined his life." Where is the observation that Josh's decisions may very well have ruined 5 womens' lives?

This family has been given a huge platform thanks to this show and they have spread fear and hate for the LGBT community. If there had been a 15 year old boy who was the son of a gay couple, and he molested 5 kids, the Duggars would be saying that this was proof that gays shouldn't be allowed to have families.

They should cancel that show - I think it's the only hope those daughters have. Without the money from that show I hope the girls start questioning the "don't do anything but get married and have 19 kids" plan.

And there is NO way TLC did not know this as I just read a letter from someone from 2007 and supposedly Oprah went to the police in 2006 about this.
They had everyone believing they lived this wonderful, christian life. TLC gave them $200,000 to build their house. They only paid for the kitchen. The grandmother went around begging for free things. They could NEVER afford 19 kids like they claim they have without help. They are a bunch of frauds and reality TV is what helps everyone out in life now.

Oh but come on, they never asked for handouts or assistance or government aid. They're stand up people with good moral values. So what if the only way they can provide for 19 kids is by begging others for donations and exploiting them on TV. At least they pay their taxes.

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Re: Josh Duggar responds- Resigns from JOb

Posted by afternoondelight828

Posted by sfp0701

Posted by jgl

Posted by ElizaRags35

Posted by nraboni

I am so disgusted by the comments from people supporting this family on the TLC website. I just can't understand how people can excuse this and say "oh it happened twelve years ago; he got the help he needed; God will save him" blah blah blah.

I had to stop reading them. So infuriating.

Im disgusted to say im related to people like this saying this in repsinse to my disgust about him... It is disgusting, dispicable and inexcusable but not unforgivable. Forgiveness is a choice. If u can rely on Gods supernatural power to help heal and restore then a happy life is possible. What u suggest is to be bitter, angry and hardened. Nope i choose forgiveness.



Sorry to me he is sick. Touching a child sexualy is a sickness that you can not fix!

Okay this is very difficult for someone who hasn't been through this to understand. I went through it on the victim side. I have totally forgiven my abuser. That doesn't mean I want him in my life. That doesn't mean that I think he is safe. That doesn't mean that I will go near him or let him near my child. That doesn't mean that I think he will ever be right. I think he is sick sick sick. I feel for him. I have forgiven him. I love parts of him and feel bad for the very broken and wrong parts of him. It doesn't mean that I won't fight to keep him locked away for the rest of his life as a repeat offender that shouldn't and most likely won't see the light of day. It doesn't mean that what was done to me doesn't shape me and change me. I guess that is why I keep coming back to this thread. When my Mom heard what happened she ran to the church. She didn't know what else to do. But, guess what.. the priest sent her immediately to the police. He didn't try to hide it or make it ok. That is what I can't wrap my head around.

Anyway.. I digress...It means that I choose to not let the anger and resentment eat me alive. I have given it up to god.. and the judicial system (very important difference here). I still believe he has to pay for his crimes with the law and with God. And he will do both one day. I don't think what he did is right. I recognize that the ability to do this means there is something very very wrong with you. I forgive him for what he did and I have moved on in my life. Forgiveness doesn't have to mean stupidity. It doesn't have to mean trust. It is also not about the abuser. It's about the victim and what forgiveness can do for your heart and soul. I forgive. But, I am not stupid, or naive and I will never forget.

ETA: I have relatives that have not forgiven. I had lunch with one once and she was totally eaten up by anger and bitterness. It was hard to witness. She did ask me how I let go and forgave because it isn't happening for her. It took a lot of counseling and strong faith. But, I did it.

I am so sorry you went through this. I absolutely get what you are saying and forgiving DID help you and DOES help others.
What is the missing in their situation is that it is ALL about HIM, not the victims. They need therapy, REAL therapy, not what THEY consider therapy. These poor girls will never be over this and now with it out in the public, I am sure it is stirring up the feelings again.
My heart breaks for anyone who has had to go through this. I can't imagine and I hope everyone who does, gets the proper help they need.

Re: Josh Duggar responds- Resigns from JOb

Posted by sfp0701

Posted by afternoondelight828

Posted by sfp0701

Posted by jgl

Posted by ElizaRags35

Posted by nraboni

I am so disgusted by the comments from people supporting this family on the TLC website. I just can't understand how people can excuse this and say "oh it happened twelve years ago; he got the help he needed; God will save him" blah blah blah.

I had to stop reading them. So infuriating.

Im disgusted to say im related to people like this saying this in repsinse to my disgust about him... It is disgusting, dispicable and inexcusable but not unforgivable. Forgiveness is a choice. If u can rely on Gods supernatural power to help heal and restore then a happy life is possible. What u suggest is to be bitter, angry and hardened. Nope i choose forgiveness.



Sorry to me he is sick. Touching a child sexualy is a sickness that you can not fix!

Okay this is very difficult for someone who hasn't been through this to understand. I went through it on the victim side. I have totally forgiven my abuser. That doesn't mean I want him in my life. That doesn't mean that I think he is safe. That doesn't mean that I will go near him or let him near my child. That doesn't mean that I think he will ever be right. I think he is sick sick sick. I feel for him. I have forgiven him. I love parts of him and feel bad for the very broken and wrong parts of him. It doesn't mean that I won't fight to keep him locked away for the rest of his life as a repeat offender that shouldn't and most likely won't see the light of day. It doesn't mean that what was done to me doesn't shape me and change me. I guess that is why I keep coming back to this thread. When my Mom heard what happened she ran to the church. She didn't know what else to do. But, guess what.. the priest sent her immediately to the police. He didn't try to hide it or make it ok. That is what I can't wrap my head around.

Anyway.. I digress...It means that I choose to not let the anger and resentment eat me alive. I have given it up to god.. and the judicial system (very important difference here). I still believe he has to pay for his crimes with the law and with God. And he will do both one day. I don't think what he did is right. I recognize that the ability to do this means there is something very very wrong with you. I forgive him for what he did and I have moved on in my life. Forgiveness doesn't have to mean stupidity. It doesn't have to mean trust. It is also not about the abuser. It's about the victim and what forgiveness can do for your heart and soul. I forgive. But, I am not stupid, or naive and I will never forget.

ETA: I have relatives that have not forgiven. I had lunch with one once and she was totally eaten up by anger and bitterness. It was hard to witness. She did ask me how I let go and forgave because it isn't happening for her. It took a lot of counseling and strong faith. But, I did it.

I am so sorry you went through this. I absolutely get what you are saying and forgiving DID help you and DOES help others.
What is the missing in their situation is that it is ALL about HIM, not the victims. They need therapy, REAL therapy, not what THEY consider therapy. These poor girls will never be over this and now with it out in the public, I am sure it is stirring up the feelings again.
My heart breaks for anyone who has had to go through this. I can't imagine and I hope everyone who does, gets the proper help they need.

YES!I totally agree. The only way I am at a good place, functioning etc. is because of the tons of counseling I got. And because the recovery was about me and not how his life was ruined.

Re: Josh Duggar responds- Resigns from JOb

Re: Josh Duggar responds- Resigns from JOb

The more I think about this, the angrier I get. How do you tell a 4 year old.girl.that she has some of the blame in this????? How do.you not want to rip his head off by your own hands? He was 15... maybe a sheltered 15 year old, but old enough to know thAt what he was doing was wrong. This family won't see a dime from me, I won't watch tlc if they don't pull the show. The whole family should be ashamed of themselves.