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Re: Josh Duggar responds- Resigns from JOb

Posted by JennP

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http://www.people.com/article/josh-duggar-molestation-accusations-duggars-respond

I give him credit. Facing it head on, accepting he made a mistake and moving forward.

I don't care what anyone says. When a child of 15 years old makes a mistake it is sealed for a reason. So things stupid children do cant haunt them for the rest of their lives.

I find it hard to REALLY judge him on his 15 year old self.

I had to go to MY parents because I woke up 2 nights in a row (when I was 9?) because my brother was coming into my room and touching me....when he was 12. Yes, it was creepy, but it was stopped. I don't think my brother should have a criminal record for that.

I completely disagree with you but that's not why I quoted you.

I just wanted to say that you are such a kind soul.

I admire the fact that you always give people the benefit of the doubt and try to see things from different perspectives.

That is all.

Re: Josh Duggar responds- Resigns from JOb

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Posted by JennP

Posted by Paramount

http://www.people.com/article/josh-duggar-molestation-accusations-duggars-respond

I give him credit. Facing it head on, accepting he made a mistake and moving forward.

I don't care what anyone says. When a child of 15 years old makes a mistake it is sealed for a reason. So things stupid children do cant haunt them for the rest of their lives.

I find it hard to REALLY judge him on his 15 year old self.

I had to go to MY parents because I woke up 2 nights in a row (when I was 9?) because my brother was coming into my room and touching me....when he was 12. Yes, it was creepy, but it was stopped. I don't think my brother should have a criminal record for that.

I completely disagree with you but that's not why I quoted you.

I just wanted to say that you are such a kind soul.

I admire the fact that you always give people the benefit of the doubt and try to see things from different perspectives.

That is all.

I appreciate that.

I am not defending him. What he did was wrong.

When things like this hit the news we never get the whole story. We get all the news that we TOLD is news. We don't ever get the whole story.

ALL I am saying, and yes, I will stand behind it, is that I do find it hard to judge a 27 year old man on what is his child self did.

he was a child when this happened. Did he know right from wrong? Yes. But he was still a child. If he knew better he would be able to think about the consequences of what he was doing. But he was a CHILD when this happened.

It sounds to me like he was curious and started touching. It SEEMS that is all he did. I will absolutely stand corrected if proof comes out it was more. But it SOUNDS like it was just touching. And as I said before I can go off of my own experience. I might have been 9-10-11. That makes my brother 12-13-14. He knew better. But I don't think my brother should have been arrested for it, nor have a criminal record. And I don't think because my brother touched me he is abusing HIS daughter who is now 12.

And these girls are not me. It falls to the parents to take care of both the girls and the boys.

But I will stand behind my opinion that he was 15 when this happened. He was a child. And I wont judge his 27 year old self on what a curious 15 year old did. and I will again say I don't defend what he did. It was wrong.

Re: Josh Duggar responds- Resigns from JOb

Re: Josh Duggar responds- Resigns from JOb

Posted by Paramount

Posted by JennP

Posted by Paramount

http://www.people.com/article/josh-duggar-molestation-accusations-duggars-respond

I give him credit. Facing it head on, accepting he made a mistake and moving forward.

I don't care what anyone says. When a child of 15 years old makes a mistake it is sealed for a reason. So things stupid children do cant haunt them for the rest of their lives.

I find it hard to REALLY judge him on his 15 year old self.

I had to go to MY parents because I woke up 2 nights in a row (when I was 9?) because my brother was coming into my room and touching me....when he was 12. Yes, it was creepy, but it was stopped. I don't think my brother should have a criminal record for that.

I completely disagree with you but that's not why I quoted you.

I just wanted to say that you are such a kind soul.

I admire the fact that you always give people the benefit of the doubt and try to see things from different perspectives.

That is all.

I appreciate that.

I am not defending him. What he did was wrong.

When things like this hit the news we never get the whole story. We get all the news that we TOLD is news. We don't ever get the whole story.

ALL I am saying, and yes, I will stand behind it, is that I do find it hard to judge a 27 year old man on what is his child self did.

he was a child when this happened. Did he know right from wrong? Yes. But he was still a child. If he knew better he would be able to think about the consequences of what he was doing. But he was a CHILD when this happened.

It sounds to me like he was curious and started touching. It SEEMS that is all he did. I will absolutely stand corrected if proof comes out it was more. But it SOUNDS like it was just touching. And as I said before I can go off of my own experience. I might have been 9-10-11. That makes my brother 12-13-14. He knew better. But I don't think my brother should have been arrested for it, nor have a criminal record. And I don't think because my brother touched me he is abusing HIS daughter who is now 12.

And these girls are not me. It falls to the parents to take care of both the girls and the boys.

But I will stand behind my opinion that he was 15 when this happened. He was a child. And I wont judge his 27 year old self on what a curious 15 year old did. and I will again say I don't defend what he did. It was wrong.

Re: Josh Duggar responds- Resigns from JOb

How many people on this board had sex at 15? I didn't but I know lots of people that did - 15 year olds are not children.

If a 6 year old touched his sister inappropriately, that's one thing. But 15 year olds? No.

I feel so bad for these girls.

Re: Josh Duggar responds- Resigns from JOb

Posted by Hofstra26

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Posted by JennP

Posted by Paramount

http://www.people.com/article/josh-duggar-molestation-accusations-duggars-respond

I give him credit. Facing it head on, accepting he made a mistake and moving forward.

I don't care what anyone says. When a child of 15 years old makes a mistake it is sealed for a reason. So things stupid children do cant haunt them for the rest of their lives.

I find it hard to REALLY judge him on his 15 year old self.

I had to go to MY parents because I woke up 2 nights in a row (when I was 9?) because my brother was coming into my room and touching me....when he was 12. Yes, it was creepy, but it was stopped. I don't think my brother should have a criminal record for that.

I completely disagree with you but that's not why I quoted you.

I just wanted to say that you are such a kind soul.

I admire the fact that you always give people the benefit of the doubt and try to see things from different perspectives.

That is all.

I appreciate that.

I am not defending him. What he did was wrong.

When things like this hit the news we never get the whole story. We get all the news that we TOLD is news. We don't ever get the whole story.

ALL I am saying, and yes, I will stand behind it, is that I do find it hard to judge a 27 year old man on what is his child self did.

he was a child when this happened. Did he know right from wrong? Yes. But he was still a child. If he knew better he would be able to think about the consequences of what he was doing. But he was a CHILD when this happened.

It sounds to me like he was curious and started touching. It SEEMS that is all he did. I will absolutely stand corrected if proof comes out it was more. But it SOUNDS like it was just touching. And as I said before I can go off of my own experience. I might have been 9-10-11. That makes my brother 12-13-14. He knew better. But I don't think my brother should have been arrested for it, nor have a criminal record. And I don't think because my brother touched me he is abusing HIS daughter who is now 12.

And these girls are not me. It falls to the parents to take care of both the girls and the boys.

But I will stand behind my opinion that he was 15 when this happened. He was a child. And I wont judge his 27 year old self on what a curious 15 year old did. and I will again say I don't defend what he did. It was wrong.

I met my DH when he was 15 and the ONLY thing on his mind was me.............a girl the SAME age. Trust me, at that age you KNOW touching your sisters or any little kid is wrong. A child molester has a SICKNESS. I have a hard time believing he won't ever do it again if the opportunity presents itself.

Josh Duggar responds- Resigns from JOb

I understand children's sexual curiosity. How many of us played "doctor"? But, there's a huge difference here. He was 15 and these were his siblings! And he did this sometimes while they were sleeping??!! And on many different occasions??!! This is a molester. And I hope to God that HIS little girl is ok.

Re: Josh Duggar responds- Resigns from JOb

Re: Josh Duggar responds- Resigns from JOb

Bottom line... there is no excuse for what he did. If he in fact did it.

We can go on for 4 pages about this, but I don't think any of us can say it's ok or excusable.

Think about your own children. If they were touched by a 15 year old family member at 4 or 8 or 10 years old.

It's disgusting. Bottom line.

He needs help

Re: Josh Duggar responds- Resigns from JOb

YEP

Message edited 5/22/2015 1:38:43 PM.

Re: Josh Duggar responds- Resigns from JOb

Posted by Poppyseed79

YEP

Posted by NervousNell

Bottom line... there is no excuse for what he did. If he in fact did it.

We can go on for 4 pages about this, but I don't think any of us can say it's ok or excusable.

Think about your own children. If they were touched by a 15 year old family member at 4 or 8 or 10 years old.

It's disgusting. Bottom line.

He needs help

YEP! Also tmz says TLC Pulled the show. For now at least.

Re: Josh Duggar responds- Resigns from JOb

Re: Josh Duggar responds- Resigns from JOb

Re: Josh Duggar responds- Resigns from JOb

Josh Duggar responds- Resigns from JOb

For anyone who didn't see the full statements, I posted in the other thread.

From the parents
'Back 12 years ago our family went through one of the most difficult times of our lives. When Josh was a young teenager, he made some very bad mistakes and we were shocked. We had tried to teach him right from wrong. That dark and difficult time caused us to seek God like never before. Even though we would never choose to go through something so terrible, each one of our family members drew closer to God. We pray that as people watch our lives they see that we are not a perfect family. We have challenges and struggles everyday. It is one of the reasons we treasure our faith so much because God’s kindness and goodness and forgiveness are extended to us — even though we are so undeserving. We hope somehow the story of our journey — the good times and the difficult times — cause you to see the kindness of God and learn that He can bring you through anything.'

From Josh:
'Twelve years ago, as a young teenager I acted inexcusably for which I am extremely sorry and deeply regret. I hurt others, including my family and close friends. I confessed this to my parents who took several steps to help me address the situation. We spoke with the authorities where I confessed my wrongdoing and my parents arranged for me and those affected by my actions to receive counseling. I understood that if I continued down this wrong road that I would end up ruining my life. I sought forgiveness from those I had wronged and asked Christ to forgive me and come into my life. I would do anything to go back to those teen years and take different actions. In my life today, I am so very thankful for God’s grace, mercy and redemption.'


From Anna:
'I can imagine the shock many of you are going through reading this. I remember feeling that same shock. It was not at the point of engagement, or after we were married - it was two years before Josh asked me to marry him. When my family and I first visited the Duggar Home, Josh shared his past teenage mistakes. I was surprised at his openness and humility and at the same time didn't know why he was sharing it. For Josh he wanted not just me but my parents to know who he really was -- even every difficult past mistakes. At that point and over the next two years, Josh shared how the counseling he received changed his life as he continued to do what he was taught. And when you, our sweet fans, first met me when Josh asked me to marry him... I was able to say, "Yes" knowing who Josh really is - someone who had gone down a wrong path and had humbled himself before God and those whom he had offended. Someone who had received the help needed to change the direction of his life and do what is right. I want to say thank you to those who took time over a decade ago to help Josh in a time of crisis. Your investment changed his life from going down the wrong path to doing what is right. If it weren't for your help I would not be here as his wife — celebrating 6 1/2 years of marriage to a man who knows how to be a gentleman and treat a girl right. Thank you to all of you who tirelessly work with children in crisis, you are changing lives and I am forever grateful for all of you.'

Re: Josh Duggar responds- Resigns from JOb

TLC pulled the show from there line up.

Message edited 5/22/2015 4:41:26 PM.

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Double post

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Re: Josh Duggar responds- Resigns from JOb

Some thoughts:

Did his wife and her family really know about this before they began courting?? I'll assume it was a PR stunt on their behalf. How does one even broach the subject and continue to let their daughter court, marry, and have children with a child molester?? If they really did tell the in-laws I'd guess the conversation went more like this... "Hi, this is Josh. He's a good kid. He went off the righteous path a few years ago but now he's back on track and has found Jesus! So, who's ready for a wedding?" and left it at that.

The parents' idea of "counseling" was sending him to a religious fanatic contractor to learn how to dry wall!!! The Duggars believe rehabilitation for molestation is a hard day's work of manual labor! Probably something about idle hands being the devil's playground... He needed to be removed from the home and given INTENSIVE PSYCHIATRIC THERAPY by a team of medical professionals and did not receive it... Instead he received working knowledge of how to use a fekking power saw. Then, AFTER 4 MONTHS OF DRYWALLING HE WAS LET BACK IN THE HOME WHERE THE VICTIMS STILL LIVED. Let's chew on that thought for a moment.

A 15 year old absolutely knows that inappropriately touching HIS YOUNGER SISTERS (ONE OF THEM BEING 4 YEARS OLD FOR CRYING OUT LOUD!!!) both awake and while they were UNCONSCIOUS is WRONGGGGG!!! No grey area here. Especially with the anti-sex, "kissing until marriage is evil" indoctrination he received all his life. He did this in the middle of the night when they were sleeping, he did this when no one else was around.... because he knew it was wrong!!! They were unconscious when he did it. That's the equivalent of a male drugging a female and violating her. This is completely inexcusable behavior. People are saying "well, he was just a kid and he made a mistake"... being 15 and getting caught by your parents having sex in the tool shed with your 15 year old girlfriend.. that's a mistake. Getting caught at 15 with crack in his lunchbox on his way to a teenage orgy... that's a mistake. Molesting unconscious 4 year olds is a mental disease... not a mistake! He should in no way, shape, or form be aroused by a 4 year old!!!

Did he "resign"?? or is it more likely he was canned?? It's hard for his organization to continue to push the anti-gay agenda with a reality tv child molester as your poster boy.

Message edited 5/22/2015 5:00:00 PM.

Re: Josh Duggar responds- Resigns from JOb

These people are finally being outed for the disgusting pigs they really are. I'd call them weirdos or nutcase but that's insulting to actual weirdos and people who do have mental illness. Your son molests your daughters and you do nothing?!? They make me sick.

Josh Duggar responds- Resigns from JOb

I honestly think Anna's parents probably knew...her dad counsels people in prison and they probably think Josh repented, everyone makes mistakes, blah blah blah....brainwashed! So infuriating!

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Josh Duggar responds- Resigns from JOb

At least he came out and admitted it and apologized unlike celebs like Bill Cosby and Stephen Collins who pretend they are so innocent.

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Re: Josh Duggar responds- Resigns from JOb