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Jury: Yates not guilty by reason of insanity
Jury: Yates not guilty by reason of insanity Mother who drowned her five children to be committed to mental hospital
HOUSTON - In a dramatic turnaround from her first murder trial, Andrea Yates was found not guilty by reason of insanity Wednesday in the drowning of her children in the bathtub.
The 42-year-old woman will be committed to a state mental hospital and held until she is no longer deemed a threat. If she had been convicted of murder, she would have been sentenced to life in prison.
Yates stared wide-eyed as the verdict was read. She then bowed her head and wept quietly. Her relatives also shed tears, and the children’s father, Rusty Yates, muttered, “Wow!” as he, too, cried.
Four years ago, another jury convicted Yates of murder, rejecting claims that she was so psychotic she thought she was saving her children’s souls by killing them. An appeals court overturned the convictions because of erroneous testimony from a prosecution witness.
Yates’ chief attorney, George Parnham, called the verdict this time a “watershed event in the treatment of mental illness.”
Yates’ 2002 conviction triggered debate over whether Texas’ legal standard for mental illness was too rigid, whether the courts treated postpartum depression seriously enough, and whether a mother who kills could ever find sympathy and understanding in a tough-on-crime state like Texas.
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Yates drowned 6-month-old Mary, 2-year-old Luke, 3-year-old Paul, 5-year-old John and 7-year-old Noah in their Houston-area home in June 2001. Her attorneys said she suffered from severe postpartum psychosis and, in a delusional state, believed that ***** was inside her and that killing the youngsters would save them from hell.
“The jury looked past what happened and looked at why it happened,” Rusty Yates, who divorced his wife last year, said outside the courthouse. “Yes, she was psychotic. That’s the whole truth.”
Prosecutors had maintained that Yates failed to meet the state’s definition of insanity: that she was so severely mentally ill that she did not know her actions were wrong.
“I’m very disappointed,” prosecutor Kaylynn Williford said. “For five years, we’ve tried to seek justice for these children.”
The jury, split evenly between men and women, deliberated for about 13 hours over three days. The jurors had not been told that Yates would be committed to a mental institution if found not guilty.
Yates did not testify. Her lawyers presented much of the same evidence as in the first trial, including half a dozen psychiatrists who testified that Yates was insane.
During a videotaped 2001 jail interview, Yates told a psychiatrist that her children had not been progressing normally because she was a bad mother, and that she killed them because “in their innocence, they would go to heaven.”
The jury was told about Yates’ two hospitalizations after two suicide attempts in 1999, and about her stays in a mental hospital a few months before the drownings.
But prosecution witness Dr. Michael Welner, a forensic psychiatrist, testified that Yates killed the youngsters because she felt overwhelmed and inadequate as a mother, not to save their souls. He said that it was not until a day after the killings that she talked about ***** and saving her children from hell.
Welner also said Yates showed that she knew her actions were wrong by waiting until her husband left for work to kill them, covering the bodies with a sheet and calling 911 soon after the crime.
Yates’ 2002 conviction was overturned after Dr. Park Dietz, a forensic psychiatrist, told the jury that before the drownings, NBC ran a “Law & Order” episode about a woman who was acquitted by reason of insanity after drowning her children. It was later learned that no such episode existed.
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Re: Jury: Yates not guilty by reason of insanity
This honestly makes me sick to my stomach. It says periodic reviews of her mental state - then she'll be set free. Those poor children...
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Posted 7/26/06 5:37 PM |
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MissJones
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Re: Jury: Yates not guilty by reason of insanity
No words
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Posted 7/26/06 5:37 PM |
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Redhead
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Re: Jury: Yates not guilty by reason of insanity
Posted by lvlz
This honestly makes me sick to my stomach. It says periodic reviews of her mental state - then she'll be set free. Those poor children...
trust me....
periodic reviews are strict Mental hospitals are no picnic.... IMO this IS where she belongs!
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Posted 7/26/06 5:38 PM |
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IrishTracy
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Re: Jury: Yates not guilty by reason of insanity
She needs the death penalty!! She makes me sick!!
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Posted 7/26/06 5:38 PM |
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MABLE03
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Re: Jury: Yates not guilty by reason of insanity
I am disgusted
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Posted 7/26/06 5:38 PM |
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Jessica
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Re: Jury: Yates not guilty by reason of insanity
anybody else not like the husband? If he new how sick she was why did he continue to want more kids?
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Posted 7/26/06 5:40 PM |
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Redhead
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Re: Jury: Yates not guilty by reason of insanity
Girls...
in all honesty
she was IN FACT SICK...She tried many times to get help.
She needs HELP
Jail isn't where she belongs
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Posted 7/26/06 5:40 PM |
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Redhead
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Re: Jury: Yates not guilty by reason of insanity
Posted by Jessica
anybody else not like the husband? If he new how sick she was why did he continue to want more kids? because he was a selfish prick
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Posted 7/26/06 5:40 PM |
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Jessica
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Re: Jury: Yates not guilty by reason of insanity
Posted by Redhead
Girls...
in all honesty
she was IN FACT SICK...She tried many times to get help.
She needs HELP
Jail isn't where she belongs
i agree and insurance and the gov is partly to blame also she had trouble getting and keeping help
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Posted 7/26/06 5:42 PM |
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MrsS2005
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Re: Jury: Yates not guilty by reason of insanity
Is she still considered mentally ill (and needs to be institutionalized) or has she received treatment and recovered/improved?
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Posted 7/26/06 5:42 PM |
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Re: Jury: Yates not guilty by reason of insanity
What bothers me the most is:
held until she is no longer deemed a threat
- So there's a possibility that she may "miraculously" pull herself together and walk among us.
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Posted 7/26/06 5:43 PM |
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Re: Jury: Yates not guilty by reason of insanity
Posted by ChrissynRicky
What bothers me the most is:
held until she is no longer deemed a threat
- So there's a possibility that she may "miraculously" pull herself together and walk among us.
exactly... and go on to have more kids??
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Posted 7/26/06 5:44 PM |
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Redhead
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Re: Jury: Yates not guilty by reason of insanity
she won't be miraculously "well"
the team of psychiatrsts and psychologists aren't IDIOTS...
come on peeps
give then a tad bit more credit
you don't get institutionalized easily
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lululu
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Re: Jury: Yates not guilty by reason of insanity
I agree with everything you have said Red - she is a sick sick woman. I am sure that she lives every day tormenting herself with what she did.
I do think that her husband should have been held accountable in some capacity. He was aware of the problems and stood by and did nothing.
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Posted 7/26/06 5:48 PM |
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MrsS2005
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Re: Jury: Yates not guilty by reason of insanity
Posted by MABLE03
Posted by ChrissynRicky
What bothers me the most is:
held until she is no longer deemed a threat
- So there's a possibility that she may "miraculously" pull herself together and walk among us.
exactly... and go on to have more kids??
I hope she never has more children. If she does, social services should get involved and make sure something like this never happens again. I know there are ethical/constitutional issues and for the most part I don't agree with it, but this is a perfect example of someone who should be sterilized.
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Posted 7/26/06 5:49 PM |
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Redhead
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Re: Jury: Yates not guilty by reason of insanity
WOW....
sterilized....WOW
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Posted 7/26/06 5:50 PM |
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MrsS2005
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Re: Jury: Yates not guilty by reason of insanity
Posted by Redhead
WOW....
sterilized....WOW
I'm sorry, but why be allowed to have children if there's a strong likihood she's going to kill them?
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Posted 7/26/06 5:51 PM |
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Redhead
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Re: Jury: Yates not guilty by reason of insanity
Posted by MrsS2005
Posted by Redhead
WOW....
sterilized....WOW
I'm sorry, but why be allowed to have children if there's a strong likihood she's going to kill them?
i would never opt to sterilize a mentally sick person
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Posted 7/26/06 5:52 PM |
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Re: Jury: Yates not guilty by reason of insanity
I agree that she belongs in a mental hospital and not jail. Anyone who would do that to their children is SICK and needs to be institutionalized.
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Posted 7/26/06 5:53 PM |
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Re: Jury: Yates not guilty by reason of insanity
I think she is where she belongs.
Posted by lululu I do think that her husband should have been held accountable in some capacity. He was aware of the problems and stood by and did nothing.
totally agree!! Not only did the husband stand by and do NOTHING, but they continued to have more children even after it was clear she was sick! I'm sure his guilt is punishment enough, but he should have a record for something!
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Posted 7/26/06 5:54 PM |
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Redhead
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Re: Jury: Yates not guilty by reason of insanity
Brooke Shields told her story on PPD
and her thoughts of hurting her child at one point
yet she gets a book deal and raved with well wishes when SHE got PG again
yet this chick should be sterilized..
WHEN SHE TRIED AND WANTED DESPERATELY TO GET HELP....
PRIOR to hurting her children
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Re: Jury: Yates not guilty by reason of insanity
Posted by IrishTracy
She needs the death penalty!! She makes me sick!!
I agree, no matter what your mental state.....death is what you brought, death is what you should get beyotch!
And not allowing her to reproduce isn't a bad idea....just because she is deemed "sick" doesn't mean there shouldn't be SERIOUS repurcussions. I am sure that an institution isn't a pretty place, but I'm sure it beats a lifetime in the slammer!
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Posted 7/26/06 6:10 PM |
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Redhead
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Re: Jury: Yates not guilty by reason of insanity
I think people should really READ ABOUT HER..... before taking such harsh stances
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Posted 7/26/06 6:17 PM |
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Redhead
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Re: Jury: Yates not guilty by reason of insanity
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Posted by IrishTracy
She needs the death penalty!! She makes me sick!!
I agree, no matter what your mental state.....death is what you brought, death is what you should get beyotch!
And not allowing her to reproduce isn't a bad idea....just because she is deemed "sick" doesn't mean there shouldn't be SERIOUS repurcussions. I am sure that an institution isn't a pretty place, but I'm sure it beats a lifetime in the slammer!
institutionalized IS IN FACT a serious repurcussion
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