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Mrs213
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Kelly Clarkson
I definitely wouldn't say she's huge. I like the dress. I think it's a bad pic, I don't like the haircut, but she looks fine with a few extra lbs.
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Kelly Clarkson
So she put on a few pounds. Big deal. At least she's not an assh0le. Much easier to lose a bit of weight than it is to shake off an assH0le personality.
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Re: Kelly Clarkson
Posted by EatingMyVeggies
So she put on a few pounds. Big deal. At least she's not an assh0le. Much easier to lose a bit of weight than it is to shake off an assH0le personality.
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Re: Kelly Clarkson
Posted by EatingMyVeggies
So she put on a few pounds. Big deal. At least she's not an assh0le. Much easier to lose a bit of weight than it is to shake off an assH0le personality.
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Jugglemom
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Re: Kelly Clarkson
Posted by gina409
I think it's a cute dress and she looks fine!
Saying she looks horrible bc you hate the dress is one thing but horrible bc she gained weight makes you as much of a jackass as that lady who shamed her
And Kelly was nothig butter gracious in her reply
This comment is not really directed at you PP but more as a general question about something I've seen a few times on here. Why is it not ok to call someone like Kelly fat or say that she doesn't look good because she's fat etc. but it is ok to make those same kind of remarks about someone who is skinny? It seems that me that both are equally offensive and both are a way of "shaming" women but people only rally around the "fat" one. Are we projecting? Just curious what the difference.
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Re: Kelly Clarkson
Posted by Jugglemom
Posted by gina409
I think it's a cute dress and she looks fine!
Saying she looks horrible bc you hate the dress is one thing but horrible bc she gained weight makes you as much of a jackass as that lady who shamed her
And Kelly was nothig butter gracious in her reply
This comment is not really directed at you PP but more as a general question about something I've seen a few times on here. Why is it not ok to call someone like Kelly fat or say that she doesn't look good because she's fat etc. but it is ok to make those same kind of remarks about someone who is skinny? It seems that me that both are equally offensive and both are a way of "shaming" women but people only rally around the "fat" one. Are we projecting? Just curious what the difference.
I agree. It is never ok to body shame anyone
But you shave to admit people shame the overweight person a whole lot more and in a different way
Look what that lady is doing right now to Kelly and the things she said
Also I have zero problems with saying she didn't look good bc of her outfit or style
But this was directly saying she didn't look good bc she gained weight
And if our society didn't associate being gorgeous with being a size 0 then more people wouldn't be starving themselves and more size 12 people would feel beautiful
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JME78
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Re: Kelly Clarkson
Body shaming of any kind is awful, but its not apples to apples.
Our society puts a prime on thinness and thin people have a much easier time than those that are overweight. Being thin is a commodity in our society - people who don't have it want to buy it - and will spend billions of dollars on products with the hope of gaining thinness. And being thin delivers a lot of social currency - thin people are likely to be paid more, to receive better medical care and customer service, and report higher levels of happiness and life satisfaction.
Telling someone they need to "eat a sandwich" doesn't really keep them down in any way.
But tearing down someone for being overweight does reinforce behaviors that keep people at a disadvantage.
Its not ok, but I don't think its as destructive overall. Fat-shaming, to me, is much more insidious and dangerous.
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Re: Kelly Clarkson
Posted by EatingMyVeggies
So she put on a few pounds. Big deal. At least she's not an assh0le. Much easier to lose a bit of weight than it is to shake off an assH0le personality.
Word!!!!
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Re: Kelly Clarkson
I love Kelly Clarkson. So much.
That being said, I was surprised to see how she has looked lately. She is not looking her best.
However, she has an amazing voice and is a great person.
Glad she's back in the spotlight. Unfortunately most of that light has been on her weight.
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Re: Kelly Clarkson
Posted by JME78
Body shaming of any kind is awful, but its not apples to apples.
Our society puts a prime on thinness and thin people have a much easier time than those that are overweight. Being thin is a commodity in our society - people who don't have it want to buy it - and will spend billions of dollars on products with the hope of gaining thinness. And being thin delivers a lot of social currency - thin people are likely to be paid more, to receive better medical care and customer service, and report higher levels of happiness and life satisfaction.
Telling someone they need to "eat a sandwich" doesn't really keep them down in any way.
But tearing down someone for being overweight does reinforce behaviors that keep people at a disadvantage.
Its not ok, but I don't think its as destructive overall. Fat-shaming, to me, is much more insidious and dangerous.
Sorry, but you shouldn't be commenting on this unless you've lived it. I was 95 lbs all through out highschool. I ate. I was just slim. There was constant body shaming. "Do you ever eat, have a hamburger, that can't be healthy, you need to gain a few pounds, do you have an eating disorder " and so on and so forth. It is every bit as damaging to be singled out for being " too thin " as it is for being "too heavy ".
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MC09
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Re: Kelly Clarkson
Posted by MrsA1012
Posted by JME78
Body shaming of any kind is awful, but its not apples to apples.
Our society puts a prime on thinness and thin people have a much easier time than those that are overweight. Being thin is a commodity in our society - people who don't have it want to buy it - and will spend billions of dollars on products with the hope of gaining thinness. And being thin delivers a lot of social currency - thin people are likely to be paid more, to receive better medical care and customer service, and report higher levels of happiness and life satisfaction.
Telling someone they need to "eat a sandwich" doesn't really keep them down in any way.
But tearing down someone for being overweight does reinforce behaviors that keep people at a disadvantage.
Its not ok, but I don't think its as destructive overall. Fat-shaming, to me, is much more insidious and dangerous.
Sorry, but you shouldn't be commenting on this unless you've lived it. I was 95 lbs all through out highschool. I ate. I was just slim. There was constant body shaming. "Do you ever eat, have a hamburger, that can't be healthy, you need to gain a few pounds, do you have an eating disorder " and so on and so forth. It is every bit as damaging to be singled out for being " too thin " as it is for being "too heavy ".
Why can't she comment on this and have her own opinion? And how do you know she hasn't lived it?? Have you lived on both ends to be able to personally comment that thin shaming is more awful than fat shaming?
She's correct in saying it's awful to body shame anyone, but it's not the same - it just isn't no matter how much anyone tries to make it seem like it is.
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MrsA1012
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Re: Kelly Clarkson
Posted by MC09
Posted by MrsA1012
Posted by JME78
Body shaming of any kind is awful, but its not apples to apples.
Our society puts a prime on thinness and thin people have a much easier time than those that are overweight. Being thin is a commodity in our society - people who don't have it want to buy it - and will spend billions of dollars on products with the hope of gaining thinness. And being thin delivers a lot of social currency - thin people are likely to be paid more, to receive better medical care and customer service, and report higher levels of happiness and life satisfaction.
Telling someone they need to "eat a sandwich" doesn't really keep them down in any way.
But tearing down someone for being overweight does reinforce behaviors that keep people at a disadvantage.
Its not ok, but I don't think its as destructive overall. Fat-shaming, to me, is much more insidious and dangerous.
Sorry, but you shouldn't be commenting on this unless you've lived it. I was 95 lbs all through out highschool. I ate. I was just slim. There was constant body shaming. "Do you ever eat, have a hamburger, that can't be healthy, you need to gain a few pounds, do you have an eating disorder " and so on and so forth. It is every bit as damaging to be singled out for being " too thin " as it is for being "too heavy ".
Why can't she comment on this and have her own opinion? And how do you know she hasn't lived it?? Have you lived on both ends to be able to personally comment that thin shaming is more awful than fat shaming?
She's correct in saying it's awful to body shame anyone, but it's not the same - it just isn't no matter how much anyone tries to make it seem like it is.
. We will have to disagree on this one. All body shaming is awful and it is invalidating to women who have taken abuse for being "too thin" to say it isn't the same. How can anyone determine which is worse? It is so silly.
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Re: Kelly Clarkson
Posted by MrsA1012
Posted by MC09
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Posted by JME78
Body shaming of any kind is awful, but its not apples to apples.
Our society puts a prime on thinness and thin people have a much easier time than those that are overweight. Being thin is a commodity in our society - people who don't have it want to buy it - and will spend billions of dollars on products with the hope of gaining thinness. And being thin delivers a lot of social currency - thin people are likely to be paid more, to receive better medical care and customer service, and report higher levels of happiness and life satisfaction.
Telling someone they need to "eat a sandwich" doesn't really keep them down in any way.
But tearing down someone for being overweight does reinforce behaviors that keep people at a disadvantage.
Its not ok, but I don't think its as destructive overall. Fat-shaming, to me, is much more insidious and dangerous.
Sorry, but you shouldn't be commenting on this unless you've lived it. I was 95 lbs all through out highschool. I ate. I was just slim. There was constant body shaming. "Do you ever eat, have a hamburger, that can't be healthy, you need to gain a few pounds, do you have an eating disorder " and so on and so forth. It is every bit as damaging to be singled out for being " too thin " as it is for being "too heavy ".
Why can't she comment on this and have her own opinion? And how do you know she hasn't lived it?? Have you lived on both ends to be able to personally comment that thin shaming is more awful than fat shaming?
She's correct in saying it's awful to body shame anyone, but it's not the same - it just isn't no matter how much anyone tries to make it seem like it is.
. We will have to disagree on this one. All body shaming is awful and it is invalidating to women who have taken abuse for being "too thin" to say it isn't the same. How can anyone determine which is worse? It is so silly.
I don't know... I'd rather be told to go "eat a hamburger" than be called a cow or some other nasty names. JMO.
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Re: Kelly Clarkson
I'm maybe the only one who doesn't think she looks heavy! She has an hourglass figure and her waist looks kind of tiny!
Also.... Didn't she just have a baby?
Damn if I ever were a celebrity I'd have been in a loony bin by now. No wonder they're all raging crack heads.
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Re: Kelly Clarkson
Posted by JME78
Body shaming of any kind is awful, but its not apples to apples.
Our society puts a prime on thinness and thin people have a much easier time than those that are overweight. Being thin is a commodity in our society - people who don't have it want to buy it - and will spend billions of dollars on products with the hope of gaining thinness. And being thin delivers a lot of social currency - thin people are likely to be paid more, to receive better medical care and customer service, and report higher levels of happiness and life satisfaction.
Telling someone they need to "eat a sandwich" doesn't really keep them down in any way.
But tearing down someone for being overweight does reinforce behaviors that keep people at a disadvantage.
Its not ok, but I don't think its as destructive overall. Fat-shaming, to me, is much more insidious and dangerous.
Perfectly said!
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lilqtny
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Kelly Clarkson
Telling somebody to eat a sandwich is hurtful and yes it does keep you down. Then when you eat in front of people they say, uh oh you may gain an ounce! You don't think that is damaging? I can only assume you have not gone through it then. Because it hurts and it makes you not want to eat, especially in front of others, because you are constantly judged just for the opposite reason. Being thin may be what is acceptable, but when you are "too thin" claws come out. Rude, hurtful comments are made and you feel just as lousy as the overweight person. I'm tired of prop,e thinking it's okay to say stuff to thin people but totally wrong to say it to overweight people. It's all wrong.
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Jugglemom
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Re: Kelly Clarkson
Posted by JME78
Body shaming of any kind is awful, but its not apples to apples.
Our society puts a prime on thinness and thin people have a much easier time than those that are overweight. Being thin is a commodity in our society - people who don't have it want to buy it - and will spend billions of dollars on products with the hope of gaining thinness. And being thin delivers a lot of social currency - thin people are likely to be paid more, to receive better medical care and customer service, and report higher levels of happiness and life satisfaction.
Telling someone they need to "eat a sandwich" doesn't really keep them down in any way.
But tearing down someone for being overweight does reinforce behaviors that keep people at a disadvantage.
Its not ok, but I don't think its as destructive overall. Fat-shaming, to me, is much more insidious and dangerous.
I understand and appreciate what you are saying but I still believe that it is unfair to say that one form of body shaming is worse than the other. It is still shaming - it is still a way to make someone feel "less than". I also think that saying someone should "eat a cheeseburger" makes light of a the very serious mental health issue related to anorexia. We wouldn't shame a person with schizophrenia so why is it ok to shame someone who could potentially have an eating disorder. I've read comments on this board saying a celebrity who is too thin looks "disgusting" but we would never say that about an overweight person or tell them to eat a carrot. I understand that it is because thin people haven't been traditionally discriminated against but that does not mean the comments are any less hurtful or psychologically damaging.
I understand this board is supposed to be fun and the celebrities are unlikely to ever read our comments but we are all reading them and we come in many different shapes and sizes and physical attributes. It makes me cringe to think that in calling out some celebrities' physical features and calling them gross etc. we are essentially telling some LIF people that they are gross, or their veiny hands are disgusting. I just think it's mean and I notice that men don't really bring each other down in the same way.
Sorry for the rant but as the mom of a girl who is almost a tween it makes me sad.
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JME78
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Re: Kelly Clarkson
I am not condoning any type of body shaming.
But you cannot tell me that very skinny people have the struggles in society that overweight people do. Overweight women are less likely to be promoted. Overweight kids are more likely to be bullied.
Skinny women can see themselves in about 95% of actresses and models. Overweight women see themselves on tv as sidekicks, as the jokey friend, etc. Its a terrible imbalance to present to teens.
I am truly horrified that anyone would have to be shamed to their face and I am really sorry for anyone here who has experienced this, but as a societal issue, fat shaming is more systemic.
It would be nice if we could move past the oppressions of this patriarchal society. and appreciate all women for who they are. Picking on people for their body type is so lazy and I wish we were all better than that.
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Re: Kelly Clarkson
I don't think she looks "huge" - she had a kid and gained a few. She hasn't really learned the best way to dress this new body - its trial and error for all of us.
But I HATE the haircut - that shaved side thing is pretty rough. I also don't care for the fake blond color. She looks better natural IMO.
Also, that type of sleeve - unless you have VERY thin arms, its not really flattering on anyone. I always go 3/4 sleeve or elbow length!
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Goobster
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Re: Kelly Clarkson
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Also, that type of sleeve - unless you have VERY thin arms, its not really flattering on anyone. I always go 3/4 sleeve or elbow length!
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lilqtny
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Re: Kelly Clarkson
Posted by JME78
I am not condoning any type of body shaming.
But you cannot tell me that very skinny people have the struggles in society that overweight people do. Overweight women are less likely to be promoted. Overweight kids are more likely to be bullied.
Skinny women can see themselves in about 95% of actresses and models. Overweight women see themselves on tv as sidekicks, as the jokey friend, etc. Its a terrible imbalance to present to teens.
I am truly horrified that anyone would have to be shamed to their face and I am really sorry for anyone here who has experienced this, but as a societal issue, fat shaming is more systemic.
It would be nice if we could move past the oppressions of this patriarchal society. and appreciate all women for who they are. Picking on people for their body type is so lazy and I wish we were all better than that.
If you say so 
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Re: Kelly Clarkson
Posted by lilqtny
Posted by JME78
I am not condoning any type of body shaming.
But you cannot tell me that very skinny people have the struggles in society that overweight people do. Overweight women are less likely to be promoted. Overweight kids are more likely to be bullied.
Skinny women can see themselves in about 95% of actresses and models. Overweight women see themselves on tv as sidekicks, as the jokey friend, etc. Its a terrible imbalance to present to teens.
I am truly horrified that anyone would have to be shamed to their face and I am really sorry for anyone here who has experienced this, but as a societal issue, fat shaming is more systemic.
It would be nice if we could move past the oppressions of this patriarchal society. and appreciate all women for who they are. Picking on people for their body type is so lazy and I wish we were all better than that.
If you say so
Why are you rolling your eyes?
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lilqtny
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Kelly Clarkson
Because you have obviously never experienced it or you wouldn't say that.
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lilqtny
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Kelly Clarkson
And "you can not tell me" tp that the body shaming I experience and problems I've encountered with it don't compare to people who are overweight.
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Ayne11
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Kelly Clarkson
FFS! Why can't we have our own opinions and experiences and not have to be told they're wrong? Yikes!
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