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Re: Kids pretending to breastfeed at school
Posted by JME78
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Omg!!! You need to stop
It is not an appropriate conversation to be having with 4 year olds who are NOT your children!
I am glad you BF good for you! Good for your child! There is nothing wrong with it.
I didnt. My son doesnt know about that stuff. He is 4. I dont even call his private a penis. We just say pee pee. Shoot me. He is a baby to me. I dont want him walking around saying penis. I dont say fart either to him. He didnt know what boobies were til a few weeks ago when he asked me bc he was curious and my husband and i discussed it with him. WE discussed it with him. I do not want his teacher discussing it with him at 4. Why is that not ok with you?
And as a teacher, we have enough on our plates. I have no desire to deal with those phone calls crom parents of other children questing why this was happening in class or why we discussed this in class
You video was nice but unnecessary for this discussion.
And your poor child that has to be seen by 10000s of strangers (perverts and molesters too im sure who may be lurking) sucking on your boob. Lovely! Really!
This totally drives home her point - its ridiculous that you are viewing breastfeeding as something titillating or sexual. This is why we need more education and more acceptance. It is not a sexual act. SHE IS FEEDING HER CHILD.
And what is wrong with the word penis?
Perverts and molesters will think so. My point is why post something like that of yourself and your child when you dont know who is seeing it.
Nothing wrong with penis i just think there are less harsh ways of referring to that and dont want my 4 year old saying it at inappropriate times. Thats just me, my kid. And i choose what i want him to know about at age 4
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Re: Kids pretending to breastfeed at school
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I, ME, MYSELF, MUAH would tell my child. NOT you, a teacher, a friend. I am sorry but why are we not understanding that some people want to have these discussions with their own children. YOU have no right to tell my child ANYTHING. I also mentioned above my daugher will be spoken to as soon as she notices, but that is my decision and my right, and who am I to tell another parent when it's appropriate. You people are all about don't judge, your juding all the time on this forum. Well guess what, I don't want you discussing important (in my mind) topics with my kid, so don't judge me.
And Tomcat my daughter would not walk up to a nursing mother in my presence, I have hawk eye. We don't walk up to strangers.
so you're not gunna try to answer?
my question that is.
just want to make sure I understand what it is your afraid that would find out inappropriately.
i had a kid come up to me. no one knew i was nursing. he was a friend's kid, so i wasn't a stranger. he asked me what the baby was doing.
i said, she's feeding. then he asked, where's her bottle? to which i said, she's drinking her milk from me. he looked confused, shrugged, and walked away.
i wasn't sure what to say because of what his parents might think, because they are very private people, and did not breastfeed. i was worried i would say the wrong thing, but i don't think i did.
i don't think there is a wrong thing to say when sharing this with a child. milk comes from mama's. and sometimes we put it in a bottle.
what's so inappropriate about this?
My point is not that it is inappropriate, your answer was great. Not too much detail, but enough to have the child ask his parents about it. My point is only that a teacher in school at 4 or 5 years old should not be discussing this. Avague answer should be given and it should be left up to the parents. If my daughter asks she will know, but I am not just going to talk about it out of nowhere.
I do not see anything sexual about it, I did it. I just don't think it is right to assume all parents are OK with it. And if they are not OK with it, then that is their business. We are a country of do not jusge anyone and accept everyones opinions and lifestyles, so why is it a double standard when it comes to someone being a little closed minded to something. That is their business and their way of life, and you don't have to agree with them.
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Re: Kids pretending to breastfeed at school
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I, ME, MYSELF, MUAH would tell my child. NOT you, a teacher, a friend. I am sorry but why are we not understanding that some people want to have these discussions with their own children. YOU have no right to tell my child ANYTHING. I also mentioned above my daugher will be spoken to as soon as she notices, but that is my decision and my right, and who am I to tell another parent when it's appropriate. You people are all about don't judge, your juding all the time on this forum. Well guess what, I don't want you discussing important (in my mind) topics with my kid, so don't judge me.
And Tomcat my daughter would not walk up to a nursing mother in my presence, I have hawk eye. We don't walk up to strangers.
so you're not gunna try to answer?
my question that is.
just want to make sure I understand what it is your afraid that would find out inappropriately.
i had a kid come up to me. no one knew i was nursing. he was a friend's kid, so i wasn't a stranger. he asked me what the baby was doing.
i said, she's feeding. then he asked, where's her bottle? to which i said, she's drinking her milk from me. he looked confused, shrugged, and walked away.
i wasn't sure what to say because of what his parents might think, because they are very private people, and did not breastfeed. i was worried i would say the wrong thing, but i don't think i did.
i don't think there is a wrong thing to say when sharing this with a child. milk comes from mama's. and sometimes we put it in a bottle.
what's so inappropriate about this?
My point is not that it is inappropriate, your answer was great. Not too much detail, but enough to have the child ask his parents about it. My point is only that a teacher in school at 4 or 5 years old should not be discussing this. Avague answer should be given and it should be left up to the parents. If my daughter asks she will know, but I am not just going to talk about it out of nowhere.
I do not see anything sexual about it, I did it. I just don't think it is right to assume all parents are OK with it. And if they are not OK with it, then that is their business. We are a country of do not jusge anyone and accept everyones opinions and lifestyles, so why is it a double standard when it comes to someone being a little closed minded to something. That is their business and their way of life, and you don't have to agree with them.
We don't have to agree with them but we don't have to coddle them and let their close mindedness win. What if someone in the class had 2 same sex dolls kissing? Should we table that discussion because some people are close minded?
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Re: Kids pretending to breastfeed at school
Posted by JME78
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Posted by LotsaLuv
I, ME, MYSELF, MUAH would tell my child. NOT you, a teacher, a friend. I am sorry but why are we not understanding that some people want to have these discussions with their own children. YOU have no right to tell my child ANYTHING. I also mentioned above my daugher will be spoken to as soon as she notices, but that is my decision and my right, and who am I to tell another parent when it's appropriate. You people are all about don't judge, your juding all the time on this forum. Well guess what, I don't want you discussing important (in my mind) topics with my kid, so don't judge me.
And Tomcat my daughter would not walk up to a nursing mother in my presence, I have hawk eye. We don't walk up to strangers.
so you're not gunna try to answer?
my question that is.
just want to make sure I understand what it is your afraid that would find out inappropriately.
i had a kid come up to me. no one knew i was nursing. he was a friend's kid, so i wasn't a stranger. he asked me what the baby was doing.
i said, she's feeding. then he asked, where's her bottle? to which i said, she's drinking her milk from me. he looked confused, shrugged, and walked away.
i wasn't sure what to say because of what his parents might think, because they are very private people, and did not breastfeed. i was worried i would say the wrong thing, but i don't think i did.
i don't think there is a wrong thing to say when sharing this with a child. milk comes from mama's. and sometimes we put it in a bottle.
what's so inappropriate about this?
My point is not that it is inappropriate, your answer was great. Not too much detail, but enough to have the child ask his parents about it. My point is only that a teacher in school at 4 or 5 years old should not be discussing this. Avague answer should be given and it should be left up to the parents. If my daughter asks she will know, but I am not just going to talk about it out of nowhere.
I do not see anything sexual about it, I did it. I just don't think it is right to assume all parents are OK with it. And if they are not OK with it, then that is their business. We are a country of do not jusge anyone and accept everyones opinions and lifestyles, so why is it a double standard when it comes to someone being a little closed minded to something. That is their business and their way of life, and you don't have to agree with them.
We don't have to agree with them but we don't have to coddle them and let their close mindedness win. What if someone in the class had 2 same sex dolls kissing? Should we table that discussion because some people are close minded?
This is pretty much beating a dead horse at this point. I want to talk to my kid about things when I feel it's time. Don't let your open mindedness take those rights away from any parent, you wouldn't want it done to you if there was something you wanted to speak to your child about first. Be open minded and respect every parents rights and decisions. The country is already way too involved in everyones business, now they want to decide when to discuss things with my kid too. Do what you want with yours and let my kid learn from me.
Thanks, have a great night.
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Re: Kids pretending to breastfeed at school
then perhaps the discussion should be more about what teachers should say about breastfeeding....
what would you want to hear your kids teacher say?
I would like to hear something simple. Like, babies drink milk, from mama's or from bottles.
(and same sex parents subject already has come up in my kids preschool, so he comes home and tells us - some kids have 2 daddies or 2 mommies.)
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Re: Kids pretending to breastfeed at school
Posted by LotsaLuv
I want to talk to my kid about things when I feel it's time. Don't let your open mindedness take those rights away from any parent, you wouldn't want it done to you if there was something you wanted to speak to your child about first. Be open minded and respect every parents rights and decisions. The country is already way too involved in everyones business, now they want to decide when to discuss things with my kid too. Do what you want with yours and let my kid learn from me.
Thanks, have a great night.
I like the way this is worded and I agree.
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Re: Kids pretending to breastfeed at school
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One more question : for all those who don't think a school should explain breast feeding how do you feel about health classes that talk in depth about the menstrual cycle, illegal drugs, birth control and sexually transmitted diseases ? Those are certainly controversial topics and schools talk about them. A big problem in this society is ignorance and misinformation about "taboo" topics. Maybe it would be better for us all if things were more openly discussed. Before everyone jumps on me, I am not suggesting we teach 4 year olds about sex, BUT I think open, honest communication about factual,scientific subjects is a good thing.
Health class is taken in what 6, 7, 8th grade or older? Not at 4, 5, or 6. By 6th grade my daughter will know what breastfeeding is.
ETA: That is your right as your childs parent to give her factual and scientific information about whatever topic you want to. YOUR RIGHT. Don't take away my rights because of how you feel and what age you deem appropriate to learn about it. that is MY RIGHT
My point isn't about anyone's rights as a parent. The point was that schools DO teach kids about topics much more controversial than breast feeding. They might be older, but the subjects are still discussed by someone OTHER than the parent.
I have heard of some people telling their 4 or 5 year olds that babies come out of vaginas. I am not sure how you feel on that topic, but that is something I do not want my daughter learning in school.
If there was a child in school pretending to give birth to a baby doll, would you want the teacher going into how babies are born? I mean they will eventually learn about that?
What is the difference, breastfeeding, vaginal birth? B/C some people obviously don't see one if they teach their kids about it so young.
What about Santa Claus? Should one child who knows he is fake spoil it for the wholke class because one day they will find out anyway?
It totally comes down to a parents right at this young age.
Personally, I would not have a problem with a four or five year old knowing that a baby comes from a vagina. As long as it was done in an age appropriate manner. I am a firm believer in openness and honesty regarding the human body and all its functions. Obviously, others might feel different.
That is great you are so open about it, and I respect the way you are OK with a teacher discussing a womans body and what it does.
I just don't feel that way, and never will. Some things should be left up to the parents at a young age. As a country we really need to stop telling each other that we have to be OK with anything and everything because one person or a group feels it is OK.
Being politically correct is turning our youth into overly sensitive people who are afraid to speak their minds for fear of being lashed out at or take offense to something because someone else doesn't agree with the way they do or see things. They are expected to accept everything. And you know what, not everyone has to be OK with everything, just because one person or a group of people think it's OK doesn't it make it right or OK in someone elses mind.
I am not saying at all you are doing that. I am just seeing what this country is turning into, and this is kind of an example of that, especially if a teacher is going to teach my child about vaginas and breastfeeding at 4, when I may not feel it is time for her to know about it. People would look at me as being closed minded and not politically correct because it is so accepted in todays society.
And as I stated before I did breastfeed & pump, and my daughter will know what that is from the start b/c I plan on it with my next child. But it is my business as to when she learns, and no one elses.
Preach!!!!! Lol 
FTW!!!
Best answer on this entire thread!
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Kids pretending to breastfeed at school
Didn't read the 10 pages sorry. But it seems to me the teacher was playing it safe. Neither agreeing or disagreeing. I can see how at school the teacher is the center of knowledge by fact or confirmation of fact... Ms xx bobby says bird poop when the fly is that true? I think the probably walk a thin line on BF and religion type stuff and just say.. Do that at home. I think that's fair.
I remember around 4 AJ saw bf and asked me. I said some babies were feed that way. She asked if she was. I said only for a little while then it was the baba. Is just a firm of feeding no big deal.
She tried to copy it I said no. Just like I don't want her to copy the movements of sex or childbirth. Neither are shameful. And bf isn't either but I don't want my small girl to mimic any of them.
But I also don't like having to explain to my daughter we don't do things that her friends do. She knows but is curious and that's fine but mimicking some things is not cool. But I try not to blame her or stigmatize that stuff.
Eta: I'd rather her come home and mimic bf than mimic prayer
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Re: Kids pretending to breastfeed at school
To me, this thread illustrates just how much stigma there still is around the human body and its functions as a whole. It goes way beyond breast feeding. If anyone watches Orange is the New Black, there is an episode in season 2 that reminds me of this thread. The girls are debating what hole pee comes out of!
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Re: Kids pretending to breastfeed at school
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I think considering teachers and adults have to be very careful working with children re accusations of things such as inappropriate touching, etc, I can understand why a teacher might not want a child pretending to lift their shirt, etc. Not sure what was actually done but considering it involves nudity to BF, I imagine your DD may have showed them she would have to put a baby under or pull down/up her shirt to BF, I can understand the teacher erring on the side of caution.
The message isn't that it's unnatural, it's that the parts of our body that are covered are meant to stay covered in school. This is the way we keep them safe, to know that certain parts of their body ARE Off limits to others seeing in a public setting/school.
ITA!
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Re: Kids pretending to breastfeed at school
Posted by MrsA1012
To me, this thread illustrates just how much stigma there still is around the human body and its functions as a whole. It goes way beyond breast feeding. If anyone watches Orange is the New Black, there is an episode in season 2 that reminds me of this thread. The girls are debating what hole pee comes out of!
This whole thread just goes to show that popular opinion is that BF is a taboo topic not to be addressed.
Some babies drink milk from breasts and some from bottles. That's it; what's the big deal?
Everyone is getting up in arms about 4 year old girls lifting up their shirt in class. Maybe I missed it, but did OP ever state that is what her DD was doing?
Of course it's not ok for a child to lift their shirt in school. But what's the harm in mimicking BF with all clothes on? Maybe we should have cows and monkeys wear covers while feeding their young so that our children don't ask us crazy questions 
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Re: Kids pretending to breastfeed at school
Her daughter was demonstrating the act of breastfeeding with 2 of her friends. The OP has twins babies.
I cannot even believe this thread is still going on. The breast beaters will continue to push educating a daycare class on breastfeeding, and the rest will continue to think it's not appropriate for daycare discussion. Agree to disagree. Doesn't mean anyone thinks bfing is wrong. End of story.
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Re: Kids pretending to breastfeed at school
Are some of you for real?!
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Kids pretending to breastfeed at school
doubt there will ever be an end to a story like this...
just heard a funny example.
if you had a foot fetish....you, personally have foot issues, fetishy ones. not saying it in bad way, just - that's you. like lots of other...intimate preferences. you keep that in the bedroom. private.
but feeding a baby. nursing for nourishment.
this is intimate, but not in a sexual way.
breasts are sexualized, it's plain to see through this mess of a thread debating several different topics, from who says what to you kids, to inappropriate undressing at preschool.
i don't see a nursing baby as sexual. to me, the nipple in this scenario appears like a nipple. bottle or flesh. it's the same to me.
it is clearly not the same for a lot of people. because of the stigma.
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Re: Kids pretending to breastfeed at school
Posted by tomcat
i don't see a nursing baby as sexual. to me, the nipple in this scenario appears like a nipple. bottle or flesh. it's the same to me.
But this thread isn't about nursing a baby.....it was turned into that.
IT IS ABOUT WHAT IS APPROPRIATE IN A 4 YO CLASSROOM!!!!!!
and yes I'm yelling and not directed at anyone in particular but I think this is utterly ridiculous.
I could give a poo about BF when its an adult but at 4yo a kid does not need to put another kids face up to their chest to simulate ANYTHING!!!!!
We need to teach our children personal space at that age!!!!
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Re: Kids pretending to breastfeed at school
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Posted by tomcat
i don't see a nursing baby as sexual. to me, the nipple in this scenario appears like a nipple. bottle or flesh. it's the same to me.
But this thread isn't about nursing a baby.....it was turned into that.
IT IS ABOUT WHAT IS APPROPRIATE IN A 4 YO CLASSROOM!!!!!!
and yes I'm yelling and not directed at anyone in particular but I think this is utterly ridiculous.
I could give a poo about BF when its an adult but at 4yo a kid does not need to put another kids face up to their chest to simulate ANYTHING!!!!!
We need to teach our children personal space at that age!!!!
yes. it certainly did turn into something else, didn't it.
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Re: Kids pretending to breastfeed at school
Posted by alli3131
Posted by tomcat
i don't see a nursing baby as sexual. to me, the nipple in this scenario appears like a nipple. bottle or flesh. it's the same to me.
But this thread isn't about nursing a baby.....it was turned into that.
IT IS ABOUT WHAT IS APPROPRIATE IN A 4 YO CLASSROOM!!!!!!
and yes I'm yelling and not directed at anyone in particular but I think this is utterly ridiculous.
I could give a poo about BF when its an adult but at 4yo a kid does not need to put another kids face up to their chest to simulate ANYTHING!!!!!
We need to teach our children personal space at that age!!!!
Exactly!!!!! This thread was never about bf and nursing mothers and their "plight against the world" I mean seriously when you start bf or ff there should never be ANY concern with what SOCIETY/THE WORLD thinks about your choice!!!! Why does it matter if ppl think bf is not for them and sees boobs to be sexual as well as a feeding source???? Does it change your view and make you not want to do it???? No probably not so why so much stress about it if it changes nothing in your life and household????? And why would it ever matter so much to others what someone else chooses to teach their children and at what age????????? Why is that anyone's concern????? Is everything perfect in your households that you can afford to move onto everyone else's???? I seriously don't get it. The fact of the matter is I don't give a f--- what you do in your house... I don't care if your 15yr old is still bf you know why??? Bc that's your thing and in your house .....so if that's not MY business then why the hell would it be YOUR business if my four year old doesn't know about a bunch of different ADULT topics???? How does my child's timeline of knowledge affect you in the grand scheme of things????
so although as a nursing mother maybe you have to deal with some shit sometimes from ppl ....yeah that's sucks but that's life and everyone makes choices for themselves and their families and we need to just stand by them no matter what ppl's opinions are and that's that.....I respect everyone's opinions its when you start to try to come into MY house with YOUR beliefs and when you overstep YOUR boundaries and when you do that that's when I'm gonna tell you to take your beliefs and shove them
Bottom line the op updated, she knew and admitted that the teacher was right in how she handled the situation ....so let's move on
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Re: Kids pretending to breastfeed at school
Posted by JenandMikey
Posted by alli3131
Posted by tomcat
i don't see a nursing baby as sexual. to me, the nipple in this scenario appears like a nipple. bottle or flesh. it's the same to me.
But this thread isn't about nursing a baby.....it was turned into that.
IT IS ABOUT WHAT IS APPROPRIATE IN A 4 YO CLASSROOM!!!!!!
and yes I'm yelling and not directed at anyone in particular but I think this is utterly ridiculous.
I could give a poo about BF when its an adult but at 4yo a kid does not need to put another kids face up to their chest to simulate ANYTHING!!!!!
We need to teach our children personal space at that age!!!!
Exactly!!!!! This thread was never about bf and nursing mothers and their "plight against the world" I mean seriously when you start bf or ff there should never be ANY concern with what SOCIETY/THE WORLD thinks about your choice!!!! Why does it matter if ppl think bf is not for them and sees boobs to be sexual as well as a feeding source???? Does it change your view and make you not want to do it???? No probably not so why so much stress about it if it changes nothing in your life and household????? And why would it ever matter so much to others what someone else chooses to teach their children and at what age????????? Why is that anyone's concern????? Is everything perfect in your households that you can afford to move onto everyone else's???? I seriously don't get it. The fact of the matter is I don't give a f--- what you do in your house... I don't care if your 15yr old is still bf you know why??? Bc that's your thing and in your house .....so if that's not MY business then why the hell would it be YOUR business if my four year old doesn't know about a bunch of different ADULT topics???? How does my child's timeline of knowledge affect you in the grand scheme of things????
so although as a nursing mother maybe you have to deal with some shit sometimes from ppl ....yeah that's sucks but that's life and everyone makes choices for themselves and their families and we need to just stand by them no matter what ppl's opinions are and that's that.....I respect everyone's opinions its when you start to try to come into MY house with YOUR beliefs and when you overstep YOUR boundaries and when you do that that's when I'm gonna tell you to take your beliefs and shove them
Bottom line the op updated, she knew and admitted that the teacher was right in how she handled the situation ....so let's move on
no.
let's never move on.
let's always share our views.
that's kinda the point of an online forum.
that it evolves into another discussion is par for the natural course of a hearty discussion.
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Re: Kids pretending to breastfeed at school
Posted by alli3131
Posted by tomcat
i don't see a nursing baby as sexual. to me, the nipple in this scenario appears like a nipple. bottle or flesh. it's the same to me.
But this thread isn't about nursing a baby.....it was turned into that.
IT IS ABOUT WHAT IS APPROPRIATE IN A 4 YO CLASSROOM!!!!!!
and yes I'm yelling and not directed at anyone in particular but I think this is utterly ridiculous.
I could give a poo about BF when its an adult but at 4yo a kid does not need to put another kids face up to their chest to simulate ANYTHING!!!!!
We need to teach our children personal space at that age!!!!
Yes, this exactly!!
Some people need to take down their immediate defenses every time they see the words "breast feeding."
Jeez.
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Re: Kids pretending to breastfeed at school
Posted by kahlua716
Posted by alli3131
Posted by tomcat
i don't see a nursing baby as sexual. to me, the nipple in this scenario appears like a nipple. bottle or flesh. it's the same to me.
But this thread isn't about nursing a baby.....it was turned into that.
IT IS ABOUT WHAT IS APPROPRIATE IN A 4 YO CLASSROOM!!!!!!
and yes I'm yelling and not directed at anyone in particular but I think this is utterly ridiculous.
I could give a poo about BF when its an adult but at 4yo a kid does not need to put another kids face up to their chest to simulate ANYTHING!!!!!
We need to teach our children personal space at that age!!!!
Yes, this exactly!!
Some people need to take down their immediate defenses every time they see the words "breast feeding."
Jeez.
Why can't we teach a child about personal space AND about the body and its functions ? Why does one cancel out the other ?
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Kids pretending to breastfeed at school
You know what-
WHY should the teacher teach about breastfeeding?
I sincerely doubt that 'Bottle Feeding 101' is a topic, so why should BFing be a topic? What the OP's daughter was doing was inappropriate and when OP found out the details- she agreed with what the teacher did to respond.
Also- there ARE breastfeeding fetishes out there, so yes- you SHOULD be careful to not post videos of yourself breastfeeding your innocent child on the internet where anybody can access them. OPEN YOUR EYES. YES- breasts are for BFing. Guess what- MOST people don't see breasts and think 'Wow- those are some hearty milk ducts'. They think about sex and physical beauty.
UNDERSTAND that breasts are sexualized because they are ALSO used for sex.
ETA: I see SO many ridiculous complaints on here and facebook that just prove that teachers will be wrong to some people no matter what they say or do in certain situations. Have some respect for the person who is with your kid more than anyone else and get it through your heads that SHE COULD LOSE HER LICENSE if she isn't careful. Jesus Christ.
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JenandMikey
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Re: Kids pretending to breastfeed at school
Posted by MrsA1012
Why can't we teach a child about personal space AND about the body and its functions ? Why does one cancel out the other ?
I wrote this on page 8 or 9 and copied and pasted it
(Don't know if you are a teacher but this is the reality of teaching nowadays, there isn't any leeway with what is able to be taught....note: early childhood curriculum does not have standards for breast feeding or bottle feeding but it does have keeping private parts private)
The majority of teachers especially public school teachers do not choose what they are going to teach....they are guided by a curriculum and sometimes if they're lucky books that go along with it ....there is a particular curricula that goes along with every subject for every grade level....and mammals and mammary glands are usually talked about in detail from around the third grade/fourth grade on .....so the concept of Breast feeding is addressed in schools but there are appropriate ages for various topics and teachers aren't the ones that have developed this idea of age appropriate curricula administrators etc etc have ....so the teacher isn't going to just decide to talk about various topics such as bf on a random Tuesday ....instead teaching material is planned out by grade level and unfortunately for you and fortunately for me that age appropriate time for teaching breast feeding is not four yrs old ....so that answers the question of "why it can't be taught in a four yr olds classroom" bc bottom line a teacher can lose her job
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Re: Kids pretending to breastfeed at school
I'm not a parent; however, I am a teacher, and this thread is making me extremely angry.
This isn't a question of whether BF or FF is "right."
The teacher had two choices:
(a) be accused of allegedly opposing BF (which isn't even what she did)
(b) be accused of allegedly discussing a topic that relates to a part of the body that has sexual connotations to a group of four year old children
You can't say that breasts have no sexual connotations. Maybe they don't for you, but they certainly do for others.
To protect herself, her chose A. You always choose A. You never want B to happen.
I teach students who are much older than four and who likely have been through some health classes. I WOULD MUCH RATHER BE ACCUSED OF A THAN OF B. YOU NEVER WANT TO BE ACCUSED OF B. What do some of you not understand?
Get a grip on the original situation, seriously.
If you want to argue that this discussion proves a stigma exists or something... then okay... but the teacher did nothing wrong in protecting herself!
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MrsA1012
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Re: Kids pretending to breastfeed at school
Posted by JenandMikey
Posted by MrsA1012
Why can't we teach a child about personal space AND about the body and its functions ? Why does one cancel out the other ?
I wrote this on page 8 or 9 and copied and pasted it
(Don't know if you are a teacher but this is the reality of teaching nowadays, there isn't any leeway with what is able to be taught....note: early childhood curriculum does not have standards for breast feeding or bottle feeding but it does have keeping private parts private)
The majority of teachers especially public school teachers do not choose what they are going to teach....they are guided by a curriculum and sometimes if they're lucky books that go along with it ....there is a particular curricula that goes along with every subject for every grade level....and mammals and mammary glands are usually talked about in detail from around the third grade/fourth grade on .....so the concept of Breast feeding is addressed in schools but there are appropriate ages for various topics and teachers aren't the ones that have developed this idea of age appropriate curricula administrators etc etc have ....so the teacher isn't going to just decide to talk about various topics such as bf on a random Tuesday ....instead teaching material is planned out by grade level and unfortunately for you and fortunately for me that age appropriate time for teaching breast feeding is not four yrs old ....so that answers the question of "why it can't be taught in a four yr olds classroom" bc bottom line a teacher can lose her job
I understand that and I think it is a grave mistake. However, I blame society not the teacher. I hope that we one day evolve to a state of comfort around our body and its functions. One way to accomplish this ,would be to disseminate the information to children at a younger age so that it is normalized for them. In a sensitive, age appropriate way of course.
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Re: Kids pretending to breastfeed at school
Posted by peanutbutter2
I'm not a parent; however, I am a teacher, and this thread is making me extremely angry.
This isn't a question of whether BF or FF is "right."
The teacher had two choices:
(a) be accused of allegedly opposing BF (which isn't even what she did)
(b) be accused of allegedly discussing a topic that relates to a part of the body that has sexual connotations to a group of four year old children
You can't say that breasts have no sexual connotations. Maybe they don't for you, but they certainly do for others.
To protect herself, her chose A. You always choose A. You never want B to happen.
I teach students who are much older than four and who likely have been through some health classes. I WOULD MUCH RATHER BE ACCUSED OF A THAN OF B. YOU NEVER WANT TO BE ACCUSED OF B. What do some of you not understand?
Get a grip on the original situation, seriously.
If you want to argue that this discussion proves a stigma exists or something... then okay... but the teacher did nothing wrong in protecting herself!
I am absolutely not blaming the teacher. Only society.
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