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Kathy042806
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Re: Local track student stole my ILs campaign sign!

Posted by jlm2008

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WOW - she's a kids and its a campaign sign. This seems like a HUGE overreaction on your in-laws part (and yours). Honestly, to go to the school with security footage to search her out and try to ID her, get her temporarily banned from the team and even thinking of calling the police bc she stole a lawn campaign sign. Seriously? She's a kid...Im not saying what she did was right, but good lord to take her down, try to get her kicked off her sports team, basically ruin her HS life over a $2 lawn sign .....seems really excessive and unreasonable. And COME on with trespassing and damage of personal property, she ran on their front lawn, not broke into their house and stole a campaign sign, she didn't deface any of their property.



I disagree. I don't care who you are, you come on my property and take something, I'm calling the police. The OP MIL just called the school, I would not have done that, I would have turned the tapes straight over to the cops. Kids today need to stop being treated like special little snowflakes and learn that they can't be brats and that there are consequences to their actions, even if they have not been raised right by their parents, which is really what this comes down to.




i agree!!

Posted 9/17/16 6:15 PM
 
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Re: Local track student stole my ILs campaign sign!

Yeah, I don't know. I think putting a political sign on your property kind of makes you a target. People just react to those sorts of things. I don't want any property damage, so I never display anything like that. I also do not display any American flags here ( Germany) because I do not want to be a target. I ordered a bunch of stuff from Hillary's shop, but I made sure not to get things for display on my house and car. I also have Serbian neighbors, so I'm just trying to be respectful.

That being said (and since you have video proof), I think calling the police would be too much. Kicking her off the team would be too much as well.

I think what has been done so far is enough. We have all done stupid pranks in our lives, and there is a time and a place for harsh punishment. This is not one of those times, sorry.

Posted 9/17/16 7:21 PM
 

beachgirl
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Re: Local track student stole my ILs campaign sign!

I think you are being too harsh. I think this child learned her lesson and won't be showing off on front of her friends again. Lesson learned hopefully and time for everyone to move on.

Posted 9/17/16 8:31 PM
 

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Re: Local track student stole my ILs campaign sign!

I think people on here are overreacting to your overreaction.

The girl needs to learn a lesson and while kicking her off the team might be a touch harsh, I am not sure I would cry any tears for her if that had happened.

I sort of feel like some kids might need a dose of "a touch harsh" these days.

Posted 9/18/16 10:46 AM
 

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Re: Local track student stole my ILs campaign sign!

Posted by JennP

I think people on here are overreacting to your overreaction.

The girl needs to learn a lesson and while kicking her off the team might be a touch harsh, I am not sure I would cry any tears for her if that had happened.

I sort of feel like some kids might need a dose of "a touch harsh" these days.



I'm mostly of the same mind, though I have calmed down a bit and can appreciate other views.

The part that gets me is people telling me to "let it go." I didn't DO anything about it except have a conversation/make a post. It isn't my house, I didn't make any phone calls, I'm not out there campaigning for a specific course of action. I actually only learned about it after all was said and done, and I posted here because it was an interesting thing that happened and I felt like talking about it a bit. So I'm not really sure what there is to let go?

Posted 9/18/16 11:43 AM
 

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Re: Local track student stole my ILs campaign sign!

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Posted by MandJZ


But frankly, I have to wonder if this wasn't a white girl in an upper middle class area, would the response from others be the same?




Why?? So you think if it was a black girl we would all agree with you and say its not punishment enough
please give people more credit than that, the constant bringing race into every conversation has gotten out of hand, and I don't mean you personally I mean by society in general, some things really have nothing to do with race

as far as her punishment I think it was fine and appropriate then again I remember playing scavenger hunt as a kid and may have taken something I shouldn't have, was I a horrible kid? no, I was actually a really good kid who grew up into a decent adult,
not saying its right, but I doubt they are going to come back and do something to the house that you need to be worried,




Oh boy, does EVERYTHING have to be about race. Did it ever occur to you ( general you, not you personally) that not everyone is racist and some of us can judge a situation based on the circumstances not the color of the person's skin. Chat Icon Anyhow, black, white or green if I had to decide how to handle the situation I would make her replace and reinstall the sign and personally apologize either over the phone or in person. Maybe, I would have her sit out of one meet, but I probably feel that an apology and replacing the sign is sufficient.

Posted 9/18/16 11:54 AM
 

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Re: Local track student stole my ILs campaign sign!

Is she even old enough to vote??Chat Icon

The girl did something wrong and is now paying the consequences. We can't say what we would have done in the same situation

Posted 9/18/16 1:52 PM
 

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Re: Local track student stole my ILs campaign sign!

Posted by klingklang77

Yeah, I don't know. I think putting a political sign on your property kind of makes you a target. People just react to those sorts of things. I don't want any property damage, so I never display anything like that. I also do not display any American flags here ( Germany) because I do not want to be a target. I ordered a bunch of stuff from Hillary's shop, but I made sure not to get things for display on my house and car. I also have Serbian neighbors, so I'm just trying to be respectful.

That being said (and since you have video proof), I think calling the police would be too much. Kicking her off the team would be too much as well.

I think what has been done so far is enough. We have all done stupid pranks in our lives, and there is a time and a place for harsh punishment. This is not one of those times, sorry.



Agree with this.

Posted 9/18/16 2:23 PM
 

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Re: Local track student stole my ILs campaign sign!

It could have been alot worse..

My sister was 9 years older than me. I think it was perhaps high school for her when someone she knew took a stop sign and put it on her stoop... and one holiday decided to set fireworks off from our car roof(when we weren't home).

Posted 9/18/16 9:00 PM
 

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Local track student stole my ILs campaign sign!

I didn't read all the comments but I think it depends on the child and their record. If this is a straight A student who has a clean record and first offense, while I don't disagree that her punishment would be WAY worse if the cops were involved, I can agree with the punishment.

If this is a kid who is always acting out, class clown, show off, and does it because she thinks she can do anything, thinking mommy and daddy will save her, then I agree she would have a harsher punishment.

I actually immediately thought that she only got a light punishment because she is an athlete. This is something that shows up in the news, that athletes can get away with whatever they want to do. Kids are seeing this and going by example.

Posted 9/19/16 9:30 AM
 

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Local track student stole my ILs campaign sign!

I think reporting it to the school was sufficient and that they doled out the appropriate punishment. I think its overboard to report it to the police because there was no damage to the property.

Posted 9/19/16 9:51 AM
 

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Re: Local track student stole my ILs campaign sign!

Posted by Katareen

Posted by jlm2008

Posted by PearlJamChick

The fact that their outside running privileges were taken away probably means that the whole team is royally pissed at her.

The majority of us on this board were once female teenagers. We know what it's like to be a mean girl/watch a mean girl/be the victim of a mean girl.

I'd say she will be paying for this in a big way for a long, long time. So early in the school year to fck it up like that...what a shame. Chat Icon



You know, you are right PearlJam! Didn't think of it like that....yes, I'm sure her team is royally pissed and will go total mean girl on her for the rest of HS, hopefully she's a freshman! I'll amend my statement...the police would be too soft, her peers will punish her Chat Icon



Or they'll take her side and find clever ways to make your in-laws lives miserable.



This is what i was thinking actually - in your original post you wrote that they could have done something worse like egging, vandalism, etc down the line if you didnt report it. I dont know if its just me but I would be thinking because your parents went to the school and reported it they would retaliate in those ways. Not the other way around. But maybe thats the queens in me -- and these long island kids will learn their lesson the first time around ;)

Posted 9/19/16 11:10 AM
 

HomeIsWithU
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Re: Local track student stole my ILs campaign sign!

I'm 32 weeks pregnant and not liberal at all and I think the OP (and even her IL's) completely overreacted. Honestly if someone came by and stole my lawn sign, I'd be annoyed. And that's it. I wouldn't go seeking out who did it, sending surveillance tapes to the school to identify the person, etc. It's a lawn sign...WHO CARES? Who has the time or energy to put that much effort into figuring out who took it.

But the bigger point, is that they did, and the school set a consequence for her that they deemed appropriate. It should be left at that. Let the school handle it from there. I'm sure she thought it was funny or was showing off to her team mates. And I'm POSITIVE that she's paying for it now. I ran track in HS and if someone on the team did something that got our outdoor running privileges revoked, we would have been SO pissed that person would be hearing about it for MONTHS. Trust me...no one on track wants to spend 2 hours after school running circles around the gym Chat Icon

Message edited 9/19/2016 11:24:27 AM.

Posted 9/19/16 11:20 AM
 

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Re: Local track student stole my ILs campaign sign!

Posted by klingklang77

Yeah, I don't know. I think putting a political sign on your property kind of makes you a target. People just react to those sorts of things. I don't want any property damage, so I never display anything like that. I also do not display any American flags here ( Germany) because I do not want to be a target. I ordered a bunch of stuff from Hillary's shop, but I made sure not to get things for display on my house and car. I also have Serbian neighbors, so I'm just trying to be respectful.

That being said (and since you have video proof), I think calling the police would be too much. Kicking her off the team would be too much as well.

I think what has been done so far is enough. We have all done stupid pranks in our lives, and there is a time and a place for harsh punishment. This is not one of those times, sorry.



I disagree about the signs. I mean, I would not put out something disrespectful or inflammatory which I expect would stir up violence. But I put up a Bernie Sanders sign in my yard and have bumper stickers on my car. It's our right. I wanted to show support for my candidate.

I think the OP or rather her IL's completely overreacted. I put my Bernie sign way up the hill on my lawn because I kind of expected it to get stolen or defaced (it didn't, I'm sure bc it's just too much trouble being up the hill). My IL's Bernie sign was stolen though. We all just shrugged our shoulders. It's not a capital offense and I think the girl was punished enough.

Posted 9/19/16 11:28 AM
 

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Re: Local track student stole my ILs campaign sign!

Posted by jlm2008

Your gut reaction was not over the top....you just had all the LIF liberals attacking you!!!! Good for you and good for your Inlaws. Believe me, now that that kid was kicked off the team, she might think twice before doing something like trespassing, which, by the way, is against the law!



I'm truly sick of seeing the word 'liberal' being thrown around like it's some sort of insult. Also, a large portion of the posters disagreeing happen to be conservatives.

That said, I think the punishment was warranted. The 'kids will be kids' mentality paves the way for kids to grow up to be selfish, entitled adults. That's how we came to have the current generation of special snowflakes.

And I just want to relate this incident to something that happened where I live. A woman was spotted removing blue ribbons from trees on the street. In front of homes or a park but the tree itself was on public property. People were calling to have her assaulted, arrested, hanged even. I think THAT was certainly an overreaction. This kid showed that she has no respect for other people's property and is an entitled brat IMO. People can get shot for trespassing. She's lucky to learn her lesson the easy way.

Posted 9/19/16 11:32 AM
 

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Re: Local track student stole my ILs campaign sign!

I didn't read all the responses, but I'm glad your MIL called the school. People have to learn they can't get away with destroying other people's property.

Unfortunately, we're having an issue with nails in our tires, and we suspect it's one of our neighbors. Now I have the "fun" task of finding someone to install cameras. After 2 nails and 2 screws in our tires in less than a month, it's time to make the investment. I'm sick of people doing what they want and thinking it's ok.

Posted 9/19/16 1:13 PM
 

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Re: Local track student stole my ILs campaign sign!

Posted by HomeIsWithU

I'm 32 weeks pregnant and not liberal at all and I think the OP (and even her IL's) completely overreacted. Honestly if someone came by and stole my lawn sign, I'd be annoyed. And that's it. I wouldn't go seeking out who did it, sending surveillance tapes to the school to identify the person, etc. It's a lawn sign...WHO CARES? Who has the time or energy to put that much effort into figuring out who took it.

But the bigger point, is that they did, and the school set a consequence for her that they deemed appropriate. It should be left at that. Let the school handle it from there. I'm sure she thought it was funny or was showing off to her team mates. And I'm POSITIVE that she's paying for it now. I ran track in HS and if someone on the team did something that got our outdoor running privileges revoked, we would have been SO pissed that person would be hearing about it for MONTHS. Trust me...no one on track wants to spend 2 hours after school running circles around the gym Chat Icon



100%. In high school I "forked" lawns of other classmates, and had the same done to me. Once someone took chocolate syrup and doused my parents cars with that and flour. I knew nothing about it until a few weeks later when one of the girls came up to me to apologize. I asked my parents about it who admitted they heard it happen in the night and my dad went outside and washed the driveway and cars off and forgot to tell me. Chat Icon

No one got hurt. Teenagers do stupid shit. This is pretty trivial.

Posted 9/19/16 1:25 PM
 

hotelcalie
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Local track student stole my ILs campaign sign!

I think the punishment fits the crime. Kids do silly things. When I was a kid we would take everyone's lawn decorations and pick once house to be the "winner". They would get the whole blocks decorations! We thought we were funny!

Posted 9/19/16 2:00 PM
 

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Re: Local track student stole my ILs campaign sign!

eh-I thought of stealing my neighbor's Trump sign and I'm a "grown up" lol.

I think of it as a kid's prank (which is why I didn' do it myself). She got busted and there is a consequence that seems appropriate IMO. I certainly wouldn't call the cops if someone did that to me.

Posted 9/19/16 2:07 PM
 

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Re: Local track student stole my ILs campaign sign!

Posted by hotelcalie

I think the punishment fits the crime. Kids do silly things. When I was a kid we would take everyone's lawn decorations and pick once house to be the "winner". They would get the whole blocks decorations! We thought we were funny!




We did this too...and we were the "good" kids

Posted 9/19/16 2:08 PM
 

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Re: Local track student stole my ILs campaign sign!

Posted by hotelcalie

I think the punishment fits the crime. Kids do silly things. When I was a kid we would take everyone's lawn decorations and pick once house to be the "winner". They would get the whole blocks decorations! We thought we were funny!



Honestly that IS pretty funny Chat Icon Chat Icon Chat Icon Chat Icon

Posted 9/19/16 2:16 PM
 

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Re: Local track student stole my ILs campaign sign!

Posted by eroxgirl

That said, I think the punishment was warranted. The 'kids will be kids' mentality paves the way for kids to grow up to be selfish, entitled adults.




I agree- I do think that the kid should have had to get the sign back, not the coach, and apologize in person.

I may have added in missing the next meet too, but sometimes things like that hurt the coach or school if it would affect their performance.

I do think getting kicked off the team should be reserved for more serious offenses.

Posted 9/19/16 3:04 PM
 

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Re: Local track student stole my ILs campaign sign!

Posted by Kathy042806

Posted by jlm2008

Posted by 2BadSoSad

WOW - she's a kids and its a campaign sign. This seems like a HUGE overreaction on your in-laws part (and yours). Honestly, to go to the school with security footage to search her out and try to ID her, get her temporarily banned from the team and even thinking of calling the police bc she stole a lawn campaign sign. Seriously? She's a kid...Im not saying what she did was right, but good lord to take her down, try to get her kicked off her sports team, basically ruin her HS life over a $2 lawn sign .....seems really excessive and unreasonable. And COME on with trespassing and damage of personal property, she ran on their front lawn, not broke into their house and stole a campaign sign, she didn't deface any of their property.



I disagree. I don't care who you are, you come on my property and take something, I'm calling the police. The OP MIL just called the school, I would not have done that, I would have turned the tapes straight over to the cops. Kids today need to stop being treated like special little snowflakes and learn that they can't be brats and that there are consequences to their actions, even if they have not been raised right by their parents, which is really what this comes down to.




i agree!!



100% agreeChat Icon Chat Icon

Posted 9/19/16 3:06 PM
 

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Re: Local track student stole my ILs campaign sign!

Posted by HomeIsWithU

Posted by hotelcalie

I think the punishment fits the crime. Kids do silly things. When I was a kid we would take everyone's lawn decorations and pick once house to be the "winner". They would get the whole blocks decorations! We thought we were funny!



Honestly that IS pretty funny Chat Icon Chat Icon Chat Icon Chat Icon



We did the same stuff with the decorations. The best was decorating the Jewish neighbor's lawn. We thought it was funny. We also took a persian rug out of someones garbage and threw it on the neighbors car.

Kids do stupid shit. It's a little excessive to want this kid kicked off the team. Like someone else said, putting up a sign of your choice makes you a target.

Message edited 9/19/2016 10:25:11 PM.

Posted 9/19/16 10:24 PM
 

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Re: Local track student stole my ILs campaign sign!

1. Whether putting up a sign attracts people who would vandalize or steal it and thus "makes you a target," and whether the girl deserves to be punished are 2 separate issues entirely.

People do a lot of things that, because others are easily tempted to violate or disrespect them or their property, create "targets.". I hope we're not saying that they don't have the right or that the violators somehow deserve punishment less.

2. Two of the most inviolable, sacrosanct rights people have are 1) the right to have their homes/property respected; and 2) the right to their political views.

What kind of teenager wasn't raised to get those things at a basic level? Sorry, but this is out of bounds and deserves punishment.

I don't know one teenager who would do that.

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Posted 9/20/16 7:55 AM
 
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