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Re: Make the unvaccinated pay more....
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Some companies levy additional insurance premiums for overweight and obese employees.
Yes: Your BMI could affect how much you pay for your health insurance premium.
Here's why: Under the Affordable Care Act, group health plans can adopt wellness program that base people's premiums on their health status. The law says these so-called "health-contingent wellness programs" can give people discounts on their premiums – or charge them more – depending on whether they meet certain health goals, like normal weight or blood pressure, according to a recent report from the Kaiser Family Foundation.
Been in the work force over 30 years and never heard of different pricing where I worked nor my spouses or anyone else I know.
The company I worked for change health insurance policies and while I didn’t use them people would take some kind of physical/prescreening test and people would get discounts if they didn’t smoke and their results within limits.
So there already polices that basically charge more for unhealthy people even if it’s not worded that way.
Giving discounts to healthy people is the same things as charging more for unhealthy people.
Many companies have done health screenings for years but I prices were always still across the board, not for individuals. I have always done them as it is good to see your numbers and you can do it right at work.
Same with mine but then it changed. They started to give discounts based on numbers. Same with my friends health insurance.
So the only point i am making is it definitely happens now. Obviously not all companies do it but there our that do. And it won’t be surprising if more start to do it also.
Yeah you never know if they all start. Last year we were all working from home so maybe they will start it when people are back in the office to do the screenings.
It’s not just office my friend is a SAHM she has to go to the dr herself and get screened if they want a discount on their insurance.
Oh wow, ok. Never had that with any job.
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Re: Make the unvaccinated pay more....
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I love the way everyone just ignores the fact that the shot does NOT prevent transmission and therefore does NOT protect others and in fact may be more dangerous since you are transmitting it without knowing since your symptoms are muted.
In the past 2 days alone I have been told that 4 different people I personally know have covid - all vaccinated - and no they are not hospitalized. However I know plenty of unvaccinated people too and none of them have covid. Anecdotal? Yes.
But it would appear that the only benefit to this shot now is that maybe you won't die - which is obviously amazing and worth it. But there is no longer any reason to force it on others.
THANK.YOU
Winner winnner chicken dinner! But this post which makes logical sense will get overlooked and ignored. So I will quote and surface it again!
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Re: Make the unvaccinated pay more....
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Posted by ChilisWife
I love the way everyone just ignores the fact that the shot does NOT prevent transmission and therefore does NOT protect others and in fact may be more dangerous since you are transmitting it without knowing since your symptoms are muted.
In the past 2 days alone I have been told that 4 different people I personally know have covid - all vaccinated - and no they are not hospitalized. However I know plenty of unvaccinated people too and none of them have covid. Anecdotal? Yes.
But it would appear that the only benefit to this shot now is that maybe you won't die - which is obviously amazing and worth it. But there is no longer any reason to force it on others.
THANK.YOU
Winner winnner chicken dinner! But this post which makes logical sense will get overlooked and ignored. So I will quote and surface it again!
I was saying this the other day.
So you can't go into a restaurant in NYC without being vaccinated.
So a whole restaurant full of vaccinated people who feel so safe!! Eating, talking, laughing, sitting close at the bar. And meanwhile they can be passing it around to each other like an STD in a wh0rehouse.
Makes sense.
Yeah ok.
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Re: Make the unvaccinated pay more....
STD in a Wh0rehouse.. Nell, you win the internet today!!
I needed that
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Re: Make the unvaccinated pay more....
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STD in a Wh0rehouse.. Nell, you win the internet today!!
I needed that
HAHAHA!! Thanks for the laugh. Needed it.
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Re: Make the unvaccinated pay more....
Posted by NervousNell
Posted by Sash
Posted by windyweather21
Posted by ChilisWife
I love the way everyone just ignores the fact that the shot does NOT prevent transmission and therefore does NOT protect others and in fact may be more dangerous since you are transmitting it without knowing since your symptoms are muted.
In the past 2 days alone I have been told that 4 different people I personally know have covid - all vaccinated - and no they are not hospitalized. However I know plenty of unvaccinated people too and none of them have covid. Anecdotal? Yes.
But it would appear that the only benefit to this shot now is that maybe you won't die - which is obviously amazing and worth it. But there is no longer any reason to force it on others.
THANK.YOU
Winner winnner chicken dinner! But this post which makes logical sense will get overlooked and ignored. So I will quote and surface it again!
I was saying this the other day.
So you can't go into a restaurant in NYC without being vaccinated.
So a whole restaurant full of vaccinated people who feel so safe!! Eating, talking, laughing, sitting close at the bar. And meanwhile they can be passing it around to each other like an STD in a wh0rehouse.
Makes sense.
Yeah ok.
Yup and no one really knows if their vaccine has "worn" off and is actually working.
So don't allow unvaccinated people in while these vaccinated might not even be protected.
This ALL makes no sense.
I like how NO ONE wants to debate this anymore on this board.
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Re: Make the unvaccinated pay more....
Glad to provide some comical relief today ladies.
I needed it myself. Having an awful few days!
And you are right. Who knows if you are still protected if you got vaccinated in February. The talk of needing boosters is real.
So when is the vaccine card no longer valid to enter restaurants?
When does it expire and when will you need a booster to be allowed in restaurants?
the reason none of it makes sense is because it's no longer about health and safety- it's about compliance.
Hopefully when this scummbag is gone in January, the new mayor will reverse this nonsense.
And will clean up the friggin' streets too. Which I hear is more of a safety issue than Covid right now in NYC.
I don't care about the vaccine requirements in restaurants right now because I'm not going to NYC for fear of an ax attack on the subway platform (happened recently) or getting pushed in front of a train or a getting shot in Times Square (like happened to a FOUR year old a few months ago)
Such a shame.
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Re: Make the unvaccinated pay more....
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Glad to provide some comical relief today ladies.
I needed it myself. Having an awful few days!
And you are right. Who knows if you are still protected if you got vaccinated in February. The talk of needing boosters is real.
So when is the vaccine card no longer valid to enter restaurants?
When does it expire and when will you need a booster to be allowed in restaurants?
the reason none of it makes sense is because it's no longer about health and safety- it's about compliance.
Hopefully when this scummbag is gone in January, the new mayor will reverse this nonsense.
And will clean up the friggin' streets too. Which I hear is more of a safety issue than Covid right now in NYC.
I don't care about the vaccine requirements in restaurants right now because I'm not going to NYC for fear of an ax attack on the subway platform (happened recently) or getting pushed in front of a train or a getting shot in Times Square (like happened to a FOUR year old a few months ago)
Such a shame.
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Re: Make the unvaccinated pay more....
Posted by windyweather21
I like how NO ONE wants to debate this anymore on this board.
Read the room.
It's quite obvious based on how dead these boards are that most everyone is tired of the same old COVID debate that goes in circles. There is NOTHING new to say, discuss or debate.
Maybe you should FINALLY move on from it too.
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No, it is that people have NOTHING to say as more and more is coming out that this vaccine that everyone boasted about is not working as well and as long as everyone expected it to.
No one truly knows how long it will work on each individual and many who are vaccinated are not interested in the 3rd shot.
So what happens then when more people are unvaccinated and they can't bribe them anymore to get the 1st, 2nd or 3rd shot?
The media is trying to scare people that the majority of people are unvaccinated in the hospitals, failing to tell them that you are considered unvaccinated until 2 weeks AFTER your 2nd shot.
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Re: Make the unvaccinated pay more....
Posted by windyweather21
No, it is that people have NOTHING to say as more and more is coming out that this vaccine that everyone boasted about is not working as well and as long as everyone expected it to.
No one truly knows how long it will work on each individual and many who are vaccinated are not interested in the 3rd shot.
So what happens then when more people are unvaccinated and they can't bribe them anymore to get the 1st, 2nd or 3rd shot?
The media is trying to scare people that the majority of people are unvaccinated in the hospitals, failing to tell them that you are considered unvaccinated until 2 weeks AFTER your 2nd shot.
Your response is EXACTLY to my point. You are a broken record.
I have better things to do then go in circles with you. Back to enjoying this beautiful day!
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Re: Make the unvaccinated pay more....
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Posted by windyweather21
No, it is that people have NOTHING to say as more and more is coming out that this vaccine that everyone boasted about is not working as well and as long as everyone expected it to.
No one truly knows how long it will work on each individual and many who are vaccinated are not interested in the 3rd shot.
So what happens then when more people are unvaccinated and they can't bribe them anymore to get the 1st, 2nd or 3rd shot?
The media is trying to scare people that the majority of people are unvaccinated in the hospitals, failing to tell them that you are considered unvaccinated until 2 weeks AFTER your 2nd shot.
Your response is EXACTLY to my point. You are a broken record.
I have better things to do then go in circles with you. Back to enjoying this beautiful day!
Not surprised as I didn't think you would be able to answer my post. 
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Re: Make the unvaccinated pay more....
Please someone put a penny on the needle to help the broken record.
What size is preferred? Which speed?
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Re: Make the unvaccinated pay more....
Posted by klingklang77
Please someone put a penny on the needle to help the broken record.
No one says you have to answer every post and it seems that no one is as they have rebuttal anymore.
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Re: Make the unvaccinated pay more....
Posted by windyweather21
Posted by klingklang77
Please someone put a penny on the needle to help the broken record.
No one says you have to answer every post and it seems that no one is as they have rebuttal anymore.
Well you did say:
I like how NO ONE wants to debate this anymore on this board.
We could sit there and get into difference between ‘any’ and ‘no’ in this statement, but no one has time for that. Just responding *shrug* Have a nice day.
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Re: Make the unvaccinated pay more....
Posted by klingklang77
Posted by windyweather21
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Please someone put a penny on the needle to help the broken record.
No one says you have to answer every post and it seems that no one is as they have rebuttal anymore.
Well you did say:
I like how NO ONE wants to debate this anymore on this board.
We could sit there and get into difference between ‘any’ and ‘no’ in this statement, but no one has time for that. Just responding *shrug* Have a nice day.
Yes, debate. I get it though, there is nothing much for people to say anymore.
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Re: Make the unvaccinated pay more....
Posted by windyweather21
Posted by klingklang77
Posted by windyweather21
Posted by klingklang77
Please someone put a penny on the needle to help the broken record.
No one says you have to answer every post and it seems that no one is as they have rebuttal anymore.
Well you did say:
I like how NO ONE wants to debate this anymore on this board.
We could sit there and get into difference between ‘any’ and ‘no’ in this statement, but no one has time for that. Just responding *shrug* Have a nice day.
Yes, debate. I get it though, there is nothing much for people to say anymore.
Or maybe nobody wants to "debate" with you anymore. Nobody's position has changed.
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Re: Make the unvaccinated pay more....
Posted by LastLightGlow
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Posted by windyweather21
Posted by ChilisWife
I love the way everyone just ignores the fact that the shot does NOT prevent transmission and therefore does NOT protect others and in fact may be more dangerous since you are transmitting it without knowing since your symptoms are muted.
In the past 2 days alone I have been told that 4 different people I personally know have covid - all vaccinated - and no they are not hospitalized. However I know plenty of unvaccinated people too and none of them have covid. Anecdotal? Yes.
But it would appear that the only benefit to this shot now is that maybe you won't die - which is obviously amazing and worth it. But there is no longer any reason to force it on others.
THANK.YOU
Winner winnner chicken dinner! But this post which makes logical sense will get overlooked and ignored. So I will quote and surface it again!
I’m not interested in debate but I have to point out how everyone also seems to avoid another fact, perhaps the most important benefit to the vaccine: Our hospitals are not currently inundated. Sure you can get vaccinated and spread Covid all you want, but your asses won’t be in the hospital. Our hospitals here in NY are thankfully not near capacity at this time because those spreading Covid amongst each other are vaccinated and don’t need hospitalization(and do not die if that means anything to you).
You can get your heart bypass surgery, visit your family members dying in the hospital(of other things), get your Pap smears and regular health screening on time, get a CT scan or biopsy to detect an early cancer, and get that appendectomy you need. Look at Florida’s hospitals right now, they are in NYC March 2020 mode(except for having PPE now….). I totally get and am thankful that the concept of “hospital at capacity” is just a concept, not something most have personal experience with and know what that REALLY means(which I won’t even share here..) Get your vaccine, don’t get it, whatever you want. Please don’t forget about the healthcare workers scared AF for the upcoming season now mobilizing for the worst. We all all first in line for the booster.
Supposedly not so in other states.
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Re: Make the unvaccinated pay more....
Posted by mommy2devin
Posted by windyweather21
Posted by klingklang77
Posted by windyweather21
Posted by klingklang77
Please someone put a penny on the needle to help the broken record.
No one says you have to answer every post and it seems that no one is as they have rebuttal anymore.
Well you did say:
I like how NO ONE wants to debate this anymore on this board.
We could sit there and get into difference between ‘any’ and ‘no’ in this statement, but no one has time for that. Just responding *shrug* Have a nice day.
Yes, debate. I get it though, there is nothing much for people to say anymore.
Or maybe nobody wants to "debate" with you anymore. Nobody's position has changed.
Ahhh I am not the only one still talking about this. THAT was my indication.
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Re: Make the unvaccinated pay more....
Posted by windyweather21
Posted by Hofstra26
Posted by windyweather21
No, it is that people have NOTHING to say as more and more is coming out that this vaccine that everyone boasted about is not working as well and as long as everyone expected it to.
No one truly knows how long it will work on each individual and many who are vaccinated are not interested in the 3rd shot.
So what happens then when more people are unvaccinated and they can't bribe them anymore to get the 1st, 2nd or 3rd shot?
The media is trying to scare people that the majority of people are unvaccinated in the hospitals, failing to tell them that you are considered unvaccinated until 2 weeks AFTER your 2nd shot.
Your response is EXACTLY to my point. You are a broken record.
I have better things to do then go in circles with you. Back to enjoying this beautiful day!
Not surprised as I didn't think you would be able to answer my post.
Honestly, that's why i never responded after my delta airlines comment... nothing to say back to you but "agree to disagree" unfortunately.
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Re: Make the unvaccinated pay more....
Posted by mommy2be716
Posted by windyweather21
Posted by Hofstra26
Posted by windyweather21
No, it is that people have NOTHING to say as more and more is coming out that this vaccine that everyone boasted about is not working as well and as long as everyone expected it to.
No one truly knows how long it will work on each individual and many who are vaccinated are not interested in the 3rd shot.
So what happens then when more people are unvaccinated and they can't bribe them anymore to get the 1st, 2nd or 3rd shot?
The media is trying to scare people that the majority of people are unvaccinated in the hospitals, failing to tell them that you are considered unvaccinated until 2 weeks AFTER your 2nd shot.
Your response is EXACTLY to my point. You are a broken record.
I have better things to do then go in circles with you. Back to enjoying this beautiful day!
Not surprised as I didn't think you would be able to answer my post.
Honestly, that's why i never responded after my delta airlines comment... nothing to say back to you but "agree to disagree" unfortunately.
O.kay.
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Re: Make the unvaccinated pay more....
Posted by Sash
Posted by windyweather21
Posted by ChilisWife
I love the way everyone just ignores the fact that the shot does NOT prevent transmission and therefore does NOT protect others and in fact may be more dangerous since you are transmitting it without knowing since your symptoms are muted.
In the past 2 days alone I have been told that 4 different people I personally know have covid - all vaccinated - and no they are not hospitalized. However I know plenty of unvaccinated people too and none of them have covid. Anecdotal? Yes.
But it would appear that the only benefit to this shot now is that maybe you won't die - which is obviously amazing and worth it. But there is no longer any reason to force it on others.
THANK.YOU
Winner winnner chicken dinner! But this post which makes logical sense will get overlooked and ignored. So I will quote and surface it again!
Or they’d say...”yeah we already knew that”. Like it happened with the booster, and like it happened with the natural immunity being better protection against delta than 2 doses of the covid vaccine.
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Re: Make the unvaccinated pay more....
Posted by LastLightGlow
Posted by Sash
Posted by windyweather21
Posted by ChilisWife
I love the way everyone just ignores the fact that the shot does NOT prevent transmission and therefore does NOT protect others and in fact may be more dangerous since you are transmitting it without knowing since your symptoms are muted.
In the past 2 days alone I have been told that 4 different people I personally know have covid - all vaccinated - and no they are not hospitalized. However I know plenty of unvaccinated people too and none of them have covid. Anecdotal? Yes.
But it would appear that the only benefit to this shot now is that maybe you won't die - which is obviously amazing and worth it. But there is no longer any reason to force it on others.
THANK.YOU
Winner winnner chicken dinner! But this post which makes logical sense will get overlooked and ignored. So I will quote and surface it again!
I’m not interested in debate but I have to point out how everyone also seems to avoid another fact, perhaps the most important benefit to the vaccine: Our hospitals are not currently inundated. Sure you can get vaccinated and spread Covid all you want, but your asses won’t be in the hospital. Our hospitals here in NY are thankfully not near capacity at this time because those spreading Covid amongst each other are vaccinated and don’t need hospitalization(and do not die if that means anything to you).
You can get your heart bypass surgery, visit your family members dying in the hospital(of other things), get your Pap smears and regular health screening on time, get a CT scan or biopsy to detect an early cancer, and get that appendectomy you need. Look at Florida’s hospitals right now, they are in NYC March 2020 mode(except for having PPE now….). I totally get and am thankful that the concept of “hospital at capacity” is just a concept, not something most have personal experience with and know what that REALLY means(which I won’t even share here..) Get your vaccine, don’t get it, whatever you want. Please don’t forget about the healthcare workers scared AF for the upcoming season now mobilizing for the worst. We all all first in line for the booster.
I had Covid, was fortunate that I didn’t have to go to the hospital even with my pre-existing condition. So my ass won’t be in the hospital.
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Re: Make the unvaccinated pay more....
Posted by soontobemommyof2
Posted by Sash
Posted by windyweather21
Posted by ChilisWife
I love the way everyone just ignores the fact that the shot does NOT prevent transmission and therefore does NOT protect others and in fact may be more dangerous since you are transmitting it without knowing since your symptoms are muted.
In the past 2 days alone I have been told that 4 different people I personally know have covid - all vaccinated - and no they are not hospitalized. However I know plenty of unvaccinated people too and none of them have covid. Anecdotal? Yes.
But it would appear that the only benefit to this shot now is that maybe you won't die - which is obviously amazing and worth it. But there is no longer any reason to force it on others.
THANK.YOU
Winner winnner chicken dinner! But this post which makes logical sense will get overlooked and ignored. So I will quote and surface it again!
Or they’d say...”yeah we already knew that”. Like it happened with the booster, and like it happened with the natural immunity being better protection against delta than 2 doses of the covid vaccine.
Well where is this natural immunity that so many have talked about last year? It seems people are getting it twice, vaccine isn't really doing what we were told from the beginning it was supposed to do and you are hearing more and more stories of people getting bad side effects. I thought by this point we should have had herd immunity no?
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