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PsychedPsycho
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Name: Rosella EDD 8.31.12
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Re: Male Nurses in L&D
I've heard theres a few male nurses in L&D @ SNCH, dont know how true it is though? I honestly don't care. I know once I'm at THAT point all's Im going to want is my drugs and my baby! And I've also seen a male OB who was probably the best OB in history lol He seemed more knowledgeable than some female gyn's I've met.
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Posted 11/15/10 10:18 AM |
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sfuchs413
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Re: Male Nurses in L&D
A c-section isn't a cervical check, it's surgery with the abdomen and uterus. The midwives also have a 11% c-section rate compared to the hospitals 35-40% (something close to that), so my chances of that even happening are slim. They don't just rush women into the OR because "labor isn't progressing" when really their shift is up and they just want to get home for dinner (another issue I feel strongly about! Too many women are uneducated, lied to and pressured into going into a serious surgery when it's not necessary.).
Also, I didn't say there wouldn't be male residents at the hospital, I said there wouldn't be a male student midwife. I am aware there are male midwives out there, thank you, but they are few and far between, so what are the chances they just happen to have one doing their rounds? If they did happen to have a male, I'm allowed to say no to having the resident there. The midwives give you that option, fortunately.
I have a male family doctor I go to for regular visits when I'm sick, etc. but I would not have a male examine me down below or in my chest region. I'd go to a female doctor for that. A male anesthesiologist would be looking at my back, most likely, if I needed a c-section. So the problem is....?
I never said anything about being uncomfortable with a doctor that wasn't going near my private areas. Come to think of it, most of my doctors throughout my life have been male, except when it came to the gynecologist.
Also, I didn't say male obgyn's were actually perverts, I'm sure there are some nice ones out there. I was more saying that I was raised to feel that way about them so therefore I am uncomfortable with the idea. My mother always questioned, "Why would a male purposely get into that field?" And my mother is in the medical field herself. I get that vibe around male doctors who perform pap smears and cervical checks daily, like "What made you get into this field? Were you inspired to help the women of the world out or were young, trying to figure out what to do with your life and decided to get into the gynecology field for bragging rights to your friends until you actually grew up and became a professional after you graduated medical school?" Sorry for feeling that way.
My original post was just a question though. Out of mere curiosity. I wasn't concerned about having a male nurse in my delivery room (while I was actually being revealed in some way.). I know I would just tell him leave. Simple.
Message edited 11/15/2010 10:25:49 AM.
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Posted 11/15/10 10:21 AM |
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PsychedPsycho
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Name: Rosella EDD 8.31.12
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Re: Male Nurses in L&D
seriously why else do people go into specific fields? MONEY!
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Posted 11/15/10 10:29 AM |
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drwifettc
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Re: Male Nurses in L&D
They likely go into the gyn field for most of the same reasons women do. I'm going to go out on a limb and say I doubt that they spent 4 years in college, 4 years in medical school and then another 4 year years in residency for bragging rights for their friends; 12 years of school seems like it may be a little much for bragging rights.
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Posted 11/15/10 10:44 AM |
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Re: Male Nurses in L&D
I never thought of this! hmmm. I'm not sure I will care though. I think all my shame will go out the window that day!
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Posted 11/15/10 10:46 AM |
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sfuchs413
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Re: Male Nurses in L&D
Posted by drwifettc
They likely go into the gyn field for most of the same reasons women do. I'm going to go out on a limb and say I doubt that they spent 4 years in college, 4 years in medical school and then another 4 year years in residency for bragging rights for their friends; 12 years of school seems like it may be a little much for bragging rights.
I would hope so and for most, I'm sure that's the case.
Money is one big reason, since gynecologist have great salaries. The only other reason I could think of is if the male had a woman close to him, like his mother or grandmother, who had cervical cancer or the like and he wanted to get into the field to know more about it and help other women.
My friend's obgyn, from out of state, just lost hospital privileges in the hospital he was affiliated with because he has a sexual harassment charge against him, while working. You're going to tell me he didn't have some gross thought when he started schooling? "I'll get great money AND I'll see women's areas everyday." It's a win-win situation for him.
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Posted 11/15/10 11:34 AM |
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snowflake09
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Re: Male Nurses in L&D
What about just being interested in the miracle of creating life????? I'm sure some of them are interested in the actual babies and their development...
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Posted 11/15/10 11:36 AM |
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sfuchs413
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Re: Male Nurses in L&D
Posted by snowflake09
What about just being interested in the miracle of creating life????? I'm sure some of them are interested in the actual babies and their development...
That's a good point too.
I will still never go with a male obgyn, though. I believe only my husband has the right to my body, in that sense. A family doctor checking up on my cold is completely different. That is why my husband and I married young, after three years of dating, and were virgins on our wedding night. Like I said, we're old fashion.
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Posted 11/15/10 11:59 AM |
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MrsPJB2007
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Re: Male Nurses in L&D
Posted by sfuchs413
My friend's obgyn, from out of state, just lost hospital privileges in the hospital he was affiliated with because he has a sexual harassment charge against him, while working. You're going to tell me he didn't have some gross thought when he started schooling? "I'll get great money AND I'll see women's areas everyday." It's a win-win situation for him.
Umm....I have to say, do you think that all the hoochies that a gyno sees is something he's high 5-ing about later on to his friends?
Think of all the issues women go to a gyno for and how a doc has to handle that....what makes you think that so many of these men go into the practice saying "Oh man, I can't WAIT to see smelly & dirty hoochies from yeast infections! LOTS AND LOTS of bleeding from endometriosis and TONS of placenta and clots from birth. Stitching up cervixes?? SIGN ME UP! THIS IS THE BOMB! I LOVE HOOCHIES!!"
I mean I understand that you have been given a certain viewpoint your entire life, but a little bit of common sense should kick in here at times. Women's vaginas are no more sexier than men's @ssholes and ball sacks. Gynecology and obstetrics isn't about the sexy stuff, it's about getting in there and helping to ensure that a woman is healthy.
Some men likely go into it because they have a knack for the subject matter in school, others might do it because they want the good money, others might love the idea of helping to bring life into the world, since they can't do it themselves...the list goes on and on. I'm sure a VERY VERY VERY small percentage go into it thinking "can't wait to see snatch all day long. This is better than the playboy mansion."
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Posted 11/15/10 12:09 PM |
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snowflake09
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Re: Male Nurses in L&D
Posted by sfuchs413
Posted by snowflake09
What about just being interested in the miracle of creating life????? I'm sure some of them are interested in the actual babies and their development...
That's a good point too.
I will still never go with a male obgyn, though. I believe only my husband has the right to my body, in that sense. A family doctor checking up on my cold is completely different. That is why my husband and I married young, after three years of dating, and were virgins on our wedding night. Like I said, we're old fashion.
I get your point of view, and would never say that you are wrong in your thoughts or feelings...that's completely up to you. But, I do think that many make dr's out there are genuinely concerned with the medical / scientific / natural creation of life.
Whatever works for you is what you should do
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Posted 11/15/10 12:10 PM |
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yelley
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Re: Male Nurses in L&D
Posted by MrsPJB2007
"Oh man, I can't WAIT to see smelly & dirty hoochies from yeast infections! LOTS AND LOTS of bleeding from endometriosis and TONS of placenta and clots from birth. Stitching up cervixes?? SIGN ME UP! THIS IS THE BOMB! I LOVE HOOCHIES!!"
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Posted 11/15/10 12:13 PM |
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sfuchs413
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Re: Male Nurses in L&D
Posted by MrsPJB2007
Posted by sfuchs413
My friend's obgyn, from out of state, just lost hospital privileges in the hospital he was affiliated with because he has a sexual harassment charge against him, while working. You're going to tell me he didn't have some gross thought when he started schooling? "I'll get great money AND I'll see women's areas everyday." It's a win-win situation for him.
Think of all the issues women go to a gyno for and how a doc has to handle that....what makes you think that so many of these men go into the practice saying "Oh man, I can't WAIT to see smelly & dirty hoochies from yeast infections! LOTS AND LOTS of bleeding from endometriosis and TONS of placenta and clots from birth. Stitching up cervixes?? SIGN ME UP! THIS IS THE BOMB! I LOVE HOOCHIES!!
That would be when the small percentage that are actually perverts would find out the real deal during school and I would laugh my *** off at them for their stupidity. Those guys probably drop out before they even move on to residency.
I don't actually think all male obgyns are perverts; I just get grossed out by the idea. I have said that multiple times in my other posts.
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Posted 11/15/10 12:30 PM |
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MrsYank
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Re: Male Nurses in L&D
Just a FTR, I had a midwife and had to have what turned into an emergency c -section bc baby's heart rate was dropping very low.
I'd love to hear your birth story once you have your LO. Good luck to you.
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Posted 11/15/10 1:40 PM |
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Re: Male Nurses in L&D
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My friend's obgyn, from out of state, just lost hospital privileges in the hospital he was affiliated with because he has a sexual harassment charge against him, while working. You're going to tell me he didn't have some gross thought when he started schooling? "I'll get great money AND I'll see women's areas everyday." It's a win-win situation for him.
I think you should do what makes you comfortable. If that means no men around, you should just make that clear to all involved. BUT, there are bad apples in every profession (medical field and otherwise), so one person being brought up on sexual harassment charges certainly doesnt make male L&D nurses or OB/Gyns all bad. That is a pretty broad generalization. What if you dad, brother, friend, future son, etc. was an OB/Gyn? Would you want people to make horrible assumptions about them based on the bad acts of a someone else?
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Posted 11/15/10 1:46 PM |
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apples99
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Re: Male Nurses in L&D
there is NOTHING sexual in having a DOCTOR examine a patient.. a nurse changing a man's bedpan, does not see anything remotely attractive there..
so if a woman becomes a urologist, she is perv as well?? how about a gastorenterologist peforming a colonoscopy?
umm.. ok! very smart.. old fashioned or not.. using common sense while speaking, would be highly appreciated.. you can be as old fashioned as you want, and it suprises me that someone as old fashioned as you would make a comment like this.. because more old fashioned folks respect physicians..
I come from a family of medical professionals.. and for someone to make a generalized irrational statement as much is disgusting.. they give up 12 to 15 years of their PRIME to study medicine and practice this.. they miss out on their family to attend to people who ALWAYS ALWAYS take them for granted..
so best of luck to you, and your baby!
people like this pi$$ me off to the core..
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Posted 11/15/10 2:43 PM |
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pickles16
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Re: Male Nurses in L&D
Posted by MrsYank
Just a FTR, I had a midwife and had to have what turned into an emergency c -section bc baby's heart rate was dropping very low.
I'd love to hear your birth story once you have your LO. Good luck to you.
I was about to touch on this point...While your birth plan seems really serene and beautiful, and while I do agree with you that the C-section rate in this country is ridiculous and a lot of the time it's bc of dr's laziness and schedules...I think you need to take a more realisitic approach, 11% is a low number compared to the avg percentile, but life isn't black and white, and I've heard many of my friends that has these amazing visions of giving birth in a quiet beautiful setting with midwives and later having to go to a hospital setting and getting medical intervention.... As for your point of gynecologists making the most money, to counter your point, OB's in general have the highest malepractie insurance out there so it's not that lucrative to be an OB and thats why you have more and more drs NOT delivering, so no I don't think a lot of them are in it for the money
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Posted 11/15/10 2:53 PM |
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Kelly9904
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Re: Male Nurses in L&D
Posted by SweetTooth
Posted by sfuchs413
Well, I'm delivering with the midwives at Stony Brook so no male residents for me; if anything, it would be a female. I've never heard of a male midwife before. Haha.
I'm very old fashion. I don't believe any man, other than my husband, has any reason to be "down there." Medical or not. I was raised to believe male gynecologists were perverts (no offense to anyone, the logic behind it just doesn't make any sense to me. Blame my thoughts on my mother.). Besides, giving birth isn't a medical issue, it's a completely natural life experience. I'm sure the hospital would have more than one nurse on at a time. I could always request a female should a male come in. I know, for a fact, that I would very much care if there was another man in the room. I'm using the hypnobirthing method so pushing will be completely mother directed. The room will be dimly lit and quiet. This is why I decided to use the midwives. Having a male in there would make me lose focus.
What if you need a c-section? You might wind with a male OB. And a male anesthesiologist. And if you're delivering in the hospital, then yes, there might be male residents. I know you say no offense, but then you say male OBs are perverts. Many of us here have male OBs who are kind and caring and have delivered our DC and will deliver our DC in the future, so I kind of do find that offensive. If you are so adamant about not having any men at all around you while you are in labor, then I suggest you talk to the midwives about a home birth. In a hospital setting, there is no way to avoid this. Oh and for there record, there are male midwives. They are few and far between, but they do exist. A midwife is not like what you think of from the olden days - they are nurses with extra training.
I agree!
I will be honest before I had DS I didnt want a male OB, I just wasnt comfortable with it. But after having DS, I just like having a dr I can trust. And Sweet tooth is right about a c/s. I had one with DS, my regular OB was a female sole practitioner but with a c/s you need 2 OBs, So the other one was a male. IF you are using a midwife and need a c/s you will be getting 2 new OBs could be male or female.
Honestly from my experience and talking with my friends, the level of modesty goes down SIGNIFICANTLY after having a child.
I dont think I saw any male L&D nurses at St Catherine's when I had DS but it wouldnt have bothered me
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Posted 11/15/10 3:16 PM |
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Kelly9904
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Re: Male Nurses in L&D
Posted by sfuchs413
A c-section isn't a cervical check, it's surgery with the abdomen and uterus.
True but you are naked from just under your breasts down , you get shaved (by a nurse) but its in the bikini line, and depending on the reason for the c/s if your midwife is suggesting you get one and the OB on duty is male, they will most likely check you prior to doing the c/s after all they then become the dr of record.
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Posted 11/15/10 3:22 PM |
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Posted 11/15/10 3:29 PM |
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MrsRbk
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Re: Male Nurses in L&D
Posted by snowflake09
What about just being interested in the miracle of creating life????? I'm sure some of them are interested in the actual babies and their development...
ITA!!! I thank G-D everyday for my RE who without HIM, I would not have my two kids.
I would just try to keep an open mind about your birth experience as it does not always go as you have envisioned.
My Dr. was on call the night I went in to have my DD (DC#1), however, she was at the other hospital my practice delivers at delivering another baby that night. I had the on the floor resident checking me throughout the night.... MALE... he was the only one available. By the time I was ready to push, my OB was off call, and another Dr. in the practice delivered my DD.
DC #2 was a scheduled c/s (DC #1 was vaginal). There were SO many people in the OR with DC#2,and while it was my primary OB who delivered DS, another Dr. (male) assisted her. The anastegioligist was also in the room (male), he also saw everything going on. I also recall there being another man in the room... maybe a L&D nurse?
Even during a c/section, you are totally exposed... naked from the waist down.
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Posted 11/15/10 3:39 PM |
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julesrbf
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Re: Male Nurses in L&D
I can't even believe this thread is happening. How insulting for these men who have gone through years and years of schooling and training just to take care of us. It's like saying women shouldn't be allowed to be urologists because they're just in it to get their jollies.
Plus, I can guarantee you that the first gynecologists were not women, since women weren't even allowed to practice medicine at the time. Can you imagine where gynecology and obstetrics would be without those pioneering men, and how many women may have died from simple infections/medical issues without them?
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Posted 11/15/10 3:44 PM |
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Linda1003
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Re: Male Nurses in L&D
crashing but now she is an INVALID USER!
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Posted 11/15/10 3:45 PM |
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snowflake09
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Re: Male Nurses in L&D
Posted by Linda1003
crashing but now she is an INVALID USER!
Ha, totally not surprised...I'm actually a little shocked that this thread didn't get more controversial...
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Posted 11/15/10 3:48 PM |
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Re: Male Nurses in L&D
OMG!! Saying that all male obgyn's are perverts is just like saying all female obgyn's are lesbians!!!!! Its totally assanine!!
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Posted 11/15/10 3:57 PM |
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snowflake09
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Re: Male Nurses in L&D
Posted by EndlessSummer719
OMG!! Saying that all male obgyn's are perverts is just like saying all female obgyn's are lesbians!!!!! Its totally assanine!!
And maybe all pediatricians are pedophiles
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Posted 11/15/10 3:59 PM |
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