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MommyofG
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Re: Might turn controversial
Posted by unbelievable
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did you ever see the HBO movie...I think it was called "The Hands That God Made"
It was based on a true story...there were testing a surgical procedure to help "Blue Babies".
In scenerios like this...I'm grateful that we are able to find cures and procedures to help humans....
but on the flip side...a few years ago a dog food brand...Euakanuba...(sorry about spelling) was testing animals unnecessarily...this is Unaceptable to me.
I see your point with the blue baby scenario however can't we find another way ???
not sure...maybe with all the technology available today they can start simulating outcomes...but I'm not sure if we are actually there yet in the terms of technology...or that every human factor can be acounted for....although in theory it is the way I would like to see testing go in the future
I hope soemtimes I go on the peta website and watch the videos that people do IT IS HORIFYING ......
Oh god I couldnt watch that, it hurts me enough just to watch that show on animal planet where the cops go and rescue badly injured animals.
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Redhead
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Re: Might turn controversial
i have to agree
to see those animals suffering
just sad.............
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| Posted 11/16/05 12:07 PM |
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Ambersmom
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Re: Might turn controversial
Posted by Shorty
Posted by unbelievable
Personally I am completely against it !!! For any reason ...I mean how is a rabitt organ similar to mine .. so I think we should take humans who are in prison for multiple consectutive life terms ... and use them We get answers and we save money not having to house them !
sorry, but i have a completely unrelated fact here! I just wrote a huge paper on capital punishment.... On execution day alone, the cost is equal to what it would cost to house a prisoner for 40-50 years. Add in the cost of appeals, special needs, etc., and execution is actually MORE costly than life in prison! I didn't know that....but I STILL agree w/ capital punishment.
Hey, I have a better idea then...let's use the death row prisoners as substitutes for animals regarding testing. Less animals are killed and we reduce the surplus prison population...problem solved (waiting for the flames to ignite).
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| Posted 11/16/05 12:07 PM |
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MommyofG
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Re: Might turn controversial
My girlfriend is a scientist in syosset hospital and they do animal testing, from what she has said they are very far from finding anyother ways to test for cures, there they test DRUGS- that the pharmacutical companys provide!!!! I wish Holistic medicine would come forth- back in the day they didnt have all these meds and they survived and lived long??????
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| Posted 11/16/05 12:08 PM |
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unknown1
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Re: Might turn controversial
Posted by girlygrl33
My girlfriend is a scientist in syosset hospital and they do animal testing, from what she has said they are very far from finding anyother ways to test for cures, there they test DRUGS- that the pharmacutical companys provide!!!! I wish Holistic medicine would come forth- back in the day they didnt have all these meds and they survived and lived long??????
I wish it would as well now mind I am on medication that was probably tested on animals to what degree I don't know but ....if i knew then what i know now (which I don't know if they did ) I wouldn't take it I would try my hardest to find another way
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| Posted 11/16/05 12:11 PM |
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Re: Might turn controversial
Posted by ambersmom
Posted by Shorty
Posted by unbelievable
Personally I am completely against it !!! For any reason ...I mean how is a rabitt organ similar to mine .. so I think we should take humans who are in prison for multiple consectutive life terms ... and use them We get answers and we save money not having to house them !
sorry, but i have a completely unrelated fact here! I just wrote a huge paper on capital punishment.... On execution day alone, the cost is equal to what it would cost to house a prisoner for 40-50 years. Add in the cost of appeals, special needs, etc., and execution is actually MORE costly than life in prison! I didn't know that....but I STILL agree w/ capital punishment.
Hey, I have a better idea then...let's use the death row prisoners as substitutes for animals regarding testing. Less animals are killed and we reduce the surplus prison population...problem solved (waiting for the flames to ignite).
THAT"S WHAT I SAID ....and I am totally serious
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| Posted 11/16/05 12:11 PM |
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LadyMaravilla
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Re: Might turn controversial
Hey, I have a better idea then...let's use the death row prisoners as substitutes for animals regarding testing. Less animals are killed and we reduce the surplus prison population...problem solved (waiting for the flames to ignite).
THAT"S WHAT I SAID ....and I am totally serious
Not politically correct but TRUE!!
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| Posted 11/16/05 12:13 PM |
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MommyofG
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Re: Might turn controversial
I think if 'we" as humans made smarter decisions with our lifestyles- no fast food, limit the junk food, exercised- Lived HEALTHIER lifestyles, I bet we wouldnt need all these damn cures so that there would be very little testing!!!
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| Posted 11/16/05 12:14 PM |
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Redhead
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Re: Might turn controversial
Posted by ambersmom
Posted by Shorty
Posted by unbelievable
Personally I am completely against it !!! For any reason ...I mean how is a rabitt organ similar to mine .. so I think we should take humans who are in prison for multiple consectutive life terms ... and use them We get answers and we save money not having to house them !
sorry, but i have a completely unrelated fact here! I just wrote a huge paper on capital punishment.... On execution day alone, the cost is equal to what it would cost to house a prisoner for 40-50 years. Add in the cost of appeals, special needs, etc., and execution is actually MORE costly than life in prison! I didn't know that....but I STILL agree w/ capital punishment.
Hey, I have a better idea then...let's use the death row prisoners as substitutes for animals regarding testing. Less animals are killed and we reduce the surplus prison population...problem solved (waiting for the flames to ignite).
now that is a GREAT idea~
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| Posted 11/16/05 12:14 PM |
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skew
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Re: Might turn controversial
Posted by unbelievable
Personally I am completely against it !!! For any reason ...I mean how is a rabitt organ similar to mine .. so I think we should take humans who are in prison for multiple consectutive life terms ... and use them We get answers and we save money not having to house them !
i TOTALLY agree. i was going to suggest this but wanted to see if someone else posted first. this one might turn nasty though.
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| Posted 11/16/05 12:16 PM |
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unknown1
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Re: Might turn controversial
Posted by LadyLainez
Hey, I have a better idea then...let's use the death row prisoners as substitutes for animals regarding testing. Less animals are killed and we reduce the surplus prison population...problem solved (waiting for the flames to ignite).
THAT"S WHAT I SAID ....and I am totally serious
Not politically correct but TRUE!!
Your right it isn't but at this point why even try starting to be !
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| Posted 11/16/05 12:43 PM |
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LadyMaravilla
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Re: Might turn controversial
Your right it isn't but at this point why even try starting to be !
But remember "Just the ones on death row!"
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| Posted 11/16/05 12:44 PM |
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unknown1
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Re: Might turn controversial
Posted by LadyLainez
Your right it isn't but at this point why even try starting to be !
But remember "Just the ones on death row!"
OH yes deathrow only ....
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| Posted 11/16/05 12:46 PM |
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Jesaroo
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Re: Might turn controversial
I'm Against It.
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| Posted 11/16/05 1:44 PM |
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Ambersmom
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Re: Might turn controversial
Posted by unbelievable
Posted by ambersmom
Posted by Shorty
Posted by unbelievable
Personally I am completely against it !!! For any reason ...I mean how is a rabitt organ similar to mine .. so I think we should take humans who are in prison for multiple consectutive life terms ... and use them We get answers and we save money not having to house them !
sorry, but i have a completely unrelated fact here! I just wrote a huge paper on capital punishment.... On execution day alone, the cost is equal to what it would cost to house a prisoner for 40-50 years. Add in the cost of appeals, special needs, etc., and execution is actually MORE costly than life in prison! I didn't know that....but I STILL agree w/ capital punishment.
Hey, I have a better idea then...let's use the death row prisoners as substitutes for animals regarding testing. Less animals are killed and we reduce the surplus prison population...problem solved (waiting for the flames to ignite).
THAT"S WHAT I SAID ....and I am totally serious
I know, I responded before I read the whole post
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| Posted 11/16/05 2:29 PM |
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Diane
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Re: Might turn controversial
Totally AGAINST IT. These poor animals suffer and have no voice or strength to speak out.
They werent put on this earth to be tortured.
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| Posted 11/16/05 2:31 PM |
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unknown1
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Re: Might turn controversial
Posted by Diane
Totally AGAINST IT. These poor animals suffer and have no voice or strength to speak out.
They werent put on this earth to be tortured.
EXACTLY
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| Posted 11/16/05 3:56 PM |
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SoinLove
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Re: Might turn controversial
Posted by ambersmom
Hey, I have a better idea then...let's use the death row prisoners as substitutes for animals regarding testing. Less animals are killed and we reduce the surplus prison population...problem solved (waiting for the flames to ignite).
No flames here! I like this idea.
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| Posted 11/16/05 3:59 PM |
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dm24angel
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Re: Might turn controversial
I dont know to be honest, I have mixed feelings for and against.
Many cures or hope for cures are possible because of animal testing and that fact cannot be ignored, yet I have seen the videos as well and I feel strongly that animals should not be abused or tortured, and a lot of testing is torture even if not the ultimate goal.
Its so hard and a very moral thing, and I still do not know one way or another how I feel, since I know if I had a very sick child lets say, I would say test on them, test on ME for that matter, but because I dont and the situations involving it dont hit too close to home for me, I sadly have the luxury of ignoring it even though it bothers me.
Many huge organizations test on animals, do animal research, The March of Dimes is a leader in using Animals for research, yet Im sure many many people afflicted with MD were helped by the research.
I Think that testing needs to be strictly enforced, controlled if it exists to minimize the torture aspect of it if thats the best we can hope for.
I eat meat so I cannot say Im 100% animal rights....and animals are very much tortured before they are slaughtered for food consumption, so I would be a big time hypocrite if I said I was completly against it.
I think its a personal choice/decision and I respect both sides of the argument for their views..
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| Posted 11/16/05 6:34 PM |
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Jennifer
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Re: Might turn controversial
what I don't know won't upset me. I know it has to be done... But if they wanted to test animals... test prisoners...
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| Posted 11/16/05 7:24 PM |
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dm24angel
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Re: Might turn controversial
Semi off topie about the prisoners...
Many prisons DO do testing on Prisoners, but with their consent. Its not well known. It was a big thing back in the 70's and still occurs. They would get a reduced sentance, or monetary compensation. THAT part I dont agree neccesarily with , but I know my Uncles first wife..her 1st husband was in jail for Robbery and assault. They offered him 3 years off his sentance to participate in a trial....He was literally given something very similair to Hodgkins disease and med's were tested on him. He ended up dying from it before getting out. It was his choice though. I thought that was very interesting when I found out about it.
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| Posted 11/16/05 7:42 PM |
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Susan
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Re: Might turn controversial
I do not believe in animal testing for any reason whatsoever. I refused to even dissect growing up.
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| Posted 11/16/05 9:01 PM |
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Diane
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Re: Might turn controversial
Posted by SoinLove
Posted by ambersmom
Hey, I have a better idea then...let's use the death row prisoners as substitutes for animals regarding testing. Less animals are killed and we reduce the surplus prison population...problem solved (waiting for the flames to ignite).
No flames here! I like this idea.
SAME HERE!!!!! I tell this to my DH all the time
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| Posted 11/16/05 9:14 PM |
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Jesaroo
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Re: Might turn controversial
Posted by Susan
I do not believe in animal testing for any reason whatsoever. I refused to even dissect growing up.
me too! my biology teacher told me i'd FAIL if i didnt do it. i said "i wont and i want to leave the rom when it happens"
we compromised./ i stayed i nthe room, but did not disect.
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