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Re: Minimum Wage Effects on Society
Posted by Hofstra26
Posted by valentinesbaby48
Posted by Mrs213
It's not credible at all. In real life, target and walmart have gone up in sales considerably, due to curbside pickup and pandemic shopping. So much so that Target has already announced they will no longer open on Thanksgiving because they dont need the sales. I have a SIL who works for human resources at Target. They are hiring like mad and I can barely make it through one aisle without bumping into an employee.
Interesting as one of my friends who works full time was just cut down to 1 day a week, yes ONE. Single mom who needs a job. Not sure where this is, but this one, in a popular location always hires before the holidays and then cuts down on employees.
Most all large retail stores hire temporary holiday help.
This is every store. I worked as retail manager for 14 years. January, Feb there arent much payroll hours as the fiscal year ends at the end of January and they cut payroll hours to increase profit margins the best they can to appease investors. Picks up again around March when Easter shopping starts again and stays pretty steady throughout. Similar to landscapers, or pool maintenance companies whom many of claim unemployment during winter months...
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Minimum Wage Effects on Society
I would much prefer that the money and time was put into revamping the welfare system. Put the money towards free day care so people can get to work. Put the money into job training so people that are starting out at min wage do not have to stay there. There is no reason to give someone working a min wage job with no job experience $20 or $25 an hour. We need to give the people the resources to better themselves and to strive to get a better paying job. And just to clarify, I am talking about able bodied adults. Those with disabilities (and true disabilities) should be given governmental assistance to supplement their income but should be doing some sort of work, whether it a paying job or volunteer to receive that.
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Re: Minimum Wage Effects on Society
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Posted by valentinesbaby48
Posted by Mrs213
It's not credible at all. In real life, target and walmart have gone up in sales considerably, due to curbside pickup and pandemic shopping. So much so that Target has already announced they will no longer open on Thanksgiving because they dont need the sales. I have a SIL who works for human resources at Target. They are hiring like mad and I can barely make it through one aisle without bumping into an employee.
Interesting as one of my friends who works full time was just cut down to 1 day a week, yes ONE. Single mom who needs a job. Not sure where this is, but this one, in a popular location always hires before the holidays and then cuts down on employees.
Most all large retail stores hire temporary holiday help.
Yes I know that.
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Re: Minimum Wage Effects on Society
Posted by Mrs213
Posted by Hofstra26
Posted by valentinesbaby48
Posted by Mrs213
It's not credible at all. In real life, target and walmart have gone up in sales considerably, due to curbside pickup and pandemic shopping. So much so that Target has already announced they will no longer open on Thanksgiving because they dont need the sales. I have a SIL who works for human resources at Target. They are hiring like mad and I can barely make it through one aisle without bumping into an employee.
Interesting as one of my friends who works full time was just cut down to 1 day a week, yes ONE. Single mom who needs a job. Not sure where this is, but this one, in a popular location always hires before the holidays and then cuts down on employees.
Most all large retail stores hire temporary holiday help.
This is every store. I worked as retail manager for 14 years. January, Feb there arent much payroll hours as the fiscal year ends at the end of January and they cut payroll hours to increase profit margins the best they can to appease investors. Picks up again around March when Easter shopping starts again and stays pretty steady throughout. Similar to landscapers, or pool maintenance companies whom many of claim unemployment during winter months...
I truly hope so for this woman but she is looking for a 2nd job as the bills don’t stop because the fiscal year ends.
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Re: Minimum Wage Effects on Society
Posted by KarenK122
I would much prefer that the money and time was put into revamping the welfare system. Put the money towards free day care so people can get to work. Put the money into job training so people that are starting out at min wage do not have to stay there. There is no reason to give someone working a min wage job with no job experience $20 or $25 an hour. We need to give the people the resources to better themselves and to strive to get a better paying job. And just to clarify, I am talking about able bodied adults. Those with disabilities (and true disabilities) should be given governmental assistance to supplement their income but should be doing some sort of work, whether it a paying job or volunteer to receive that.
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Re: Minimum Wage Effects on Society
Posted by KarenK122
I would much prefer that the money and time was put into revamping the welfare system. Put the money towards free day care so people can get to work. Put the money into job training so people that are starting out at min wage do not have to stay there. There is no reason to give someone working a min wage job with no job experience $20 or $25 an hour. We need to give the people the resources to better themselves and to strive to get a better paying job. And just to clarify, I am talking about able bodied adults. Those with disabilities (and true disabilities) should be given governmental assistance to supplement their income but should be doing some sort of work, whether it a paying job or volunteer to receive that.
The most I read that was being considered at $15/hr. Most people with true intellectual disabilities are in group home settings. There are many able bodied adults who have cognitive impairments that inhibit them. And if they do qualify for any supplemental income there is a ton of red tape to get through, if they can even navigate the system...
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Re: Minimum Wage Effects on Society
Posted by valentinesbaby48
Posted by Mrs213
Posted by Hofstra26
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Posted by Mrs213
It's not credible at all. In real life, target and walmart have gone up in sales considerably, due to curbside pickup and pandemic shopping. So much so that Target has already announced they will no longer open on Thanksgiving because they dont need the sales. I have a SIL who works for human resources at Target. They are hiring like mad and I can barely make it through one aisle without bumping into an employee.
Interesting as one of my friends who works full time was just cut down to 1 day a week, yes ONE. Single mom who needs a job. Not sure where this is, but this one, in a popular location always hires before the holidays and then cuts down on employees.
Most all large retail stores hire temporary holiday help.
This is every store. I worked as retail manager for 14 years. January, Feb there arent much payroll hours as the fiscal year ends at the end of January and they cut payroll hours to increase profit margins the best they can to appease investors. Picks up again around March when Easter shopping starts again and stays pretty steady throughout. Similar to landscapers, or pool maintenance companies whom many of claim unemployment during winter months...
I truly hope so for this woman but she is looking for a 2nd job as the bills don’t stop because the fiscal year ends.
If she is a single mom working one day a week she can go right down to the Department of Social Services and fill out a speedy request to get emergency assistance, public assistance, food stamps. You should tell her about it. She might even be able to do it online...
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Re: Minimum Wage Effects on Society
Posted by valentinesbaby48
Posted by Mrs213
It's not credible at all. In real life, target and walmart have gone up in sales considerably, due to curbside pickup and pandemic shopping. So much so that Target has already announced they will no longer open on Thanksgiving because they dont need the sales. I have a SIL who works for human resources at Target. They are hiring like mad and I can barely make it through one aisle without bumping into an employee.
Interesting as one of my friends who works full time was just cut down to 1 day a week, yes ONE. Single mom who needs a job. Not sure where this is, but this one, in a popular location always hires before the holidays and then cuts down on employees.
If that single mom was getting paid $20 an hour, it sure would help her and her children.
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Re: Minimum Wage Effects on Society
Posted by Mrs213
Posted by KarenK122
I would much prefer that the money and time was put into revamping the welfare system. Put the money towards free day care so people can get to work. Put the money into job training so people that are starting out at min wage do not have to stay there. There is no reason to give someone working a min wage job with no job experience $20 or $25 an hour. We need to give the people the resources to better themselves and to strive to get a better paying job. And just to clarify, I am talking about able bodied adults. Those with disabilities (and true disabilities) should be given governmental assistance to supplement their income but should be doing some sort of work, whether it a paying job or volunteer to receive that.
The most I read that was being considered at $15/hr. Most people with true intellectual disabilities are in group home settings. There are many able bodied adults who have cognitive impairments that inhibit them. And if they do qualify for any supplemental income there is a ton of red tape to get through, if they can even navigate the system...
I have no issue with $15 but the 20 and 25 was being tossed around the posts. I know all too well about the red tape. I have two children that will be falling into that category and I still believe that they need to reform the services that are given so those who truly need it receive it without all the red tape. Tossing people money or services with no way to better themselves or help with the situation does no one any good. All it does is increase costs with little return.
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Re: Minimum Wage Effects on Society
Posted by KarenK122
Posted by Mrs213
Posted by KarenK122
I would much prefer that the money and time was put into revamping the welfare system. Put the money towards free day care so people can get to work. Put the money into job training so people that are starting out at min wage do not have to stay there. There is no reason to give someone working a min wage job with no job experience $20 or $25 an hour. We need to give the people the resources to better themselves and to strive to get a better paying job. And just to clarify, I am talking about able bodied adults. Those with disabilities (and true disabilities) should be given governmental assistance to supplement their income but should be doing some sort of work, whether it a paying job or volunteer to receive that.
The most I read that was being considered at $15/hr. Most people with true intellectual disabilities are in group home settings. There are many able bodied adults who have cognitive impairments that inhibit them. And if they do qualify for any supplemental income there is a ton of red tape to get through, if they can even navigate the system...
I have no issue with $15 but the 20 and 25 was being tossed around the posts. I know all too well about the red tape. I have two children that will be falling into that category and I still believe that they need to reform the services that are given so those who truly need it receive it without all the red tape. Tossing people money or services with no way to better themselves or help with the situation does no one any good. All it does is increase costs with little return.
I'm the one (and I think the only one) who has posted about $20-25 per hour for workers, of all jobs, no matter age or skill, as the basic minimum. I stand by that.
I think often of people who work in daycares or nursery schools, or those who babysit. They are famously underpaid. To care for children, our most precious members of society. People who work as social workers or health care aides to help the most vulnerable - all under paid. They deserve more than they make.
It can be done, as modeled in other nations and based on economic studies. We just have 1% that are too greedy and we have a bunch of sheep who are too busy counting their pennies and eyeing the person "below" them to be concerned with the fat cat at the top. That is what they do - the pit workers against each other while they collect & get all the tax breaks.
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Re: Minimum Wage Effects on Society
Posted by valentinesbaby48
Posted by LittleDiva
Maybe we also need to look into why some areas, specifically Long Island are so expensive.
Of course when you are paying $800-$1,000 a month in property taxes minimum wage isn’t going work.
When you want to do anything “fun” with you family it’s going to cost you to go to a county, state, town, village park or beach ....on top of those taxes you are paying.
Taxes to own a vehicle.
Let’s look a little closer as to WHY it costs so much before we raise minimum wage.
Well for one our governor just got a $25,000 raise. Most, if they even get a raise get 3%. We need to start at the top and honestly, what are we paying such high taxes when I can live someplace and have more things to do because of the weather and pay $1,000 for taxes, not $8,000 and be stuck in my house.
agree, and I don't even get 3% raise every year. last year less
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Posted by BFNY516
Posted by valentinesbaby48
Posted by Mrs213
It's not credible at all. In real life, target and walmart have gone up in sales considerably, due to curbside pickup and pandemic shopping. So much so that Target has already announced they will no longer open on Thanksgiving because they dont need the sales. I have a SIL who works for human resources at Target. They are hiring like mad and I can barely make it through one aisle without bumping into an employee.
Interesting as one of my friends who works full time was just cut down to 1 day a week, yes ONE. Single mom who needs a job. Not sure where this is, but this one, in a popular location always hires before the holidays and then cuts down on employees.
If that single mom was getting paid $20 an hour, it sure would help her and her children.
Target is paying at least $15 so not sure how much she makes.
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Re: Minimum Wage Effects on Society
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Posted by KarenK122
I would much prefer that the money and time was put into revamping the welfare system. Put the money towards free day care so people can get to work. Put the money into job training so people that are starting out at min wage do not have to stay there. There is no reason to give someone working a min wage job with no job experience $20 or $25 an hour. We need to give the people the resources to better themselves and to strive to get a better paying job. And just to clarify, I am talking about able bodied adults. Those with disabilities (and true disabilities) should be given governmental assistance to supplement their income but should be doing some sort of work, whether it a paying job or volunteer to receive that.
The most I read that was being considered at $15/hr. Most people with true intellectual disabilities are in group home settings. There are many able bodied adults who have cognitive impairments that inhibit them. And if they do qualify for any supplemental income there is a ton of red tape to get through, if they can even navigate the system...
And many who are considered disabled but can work and get discounted rents for living in a group home setting. The more hours they work, the less money they make on disability. That is why many able bodied adults would rather stay on disability then work.
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Re: Minimum Wage Effects on Society
Posted by Mrs213
Posted by valentinesbaby48
Posted by Mrs213
Posted by Hofstra26
Posted by valentinesbaby48
Posted by Mrs213
It's not credible at all. In real life, target and walmart have gone up in sales considerably, due to curbside pickup and pandemic shopping. So much so that Target has already announced they will no longer open on Thanksgiving because they dont need the sales. I have a SIL who works for human resources at Target. They are hiring like mad and I can barely make it through one aisle without bumping into an employee.
Interesting as one of my friends who works full time was just cut down to 1 day a week, yes ONE. Single mom who needs a job. Not sure where this is, but this one, in a popular location always hires before the holidays and then cuts down on employees.
Most all large retail stores hire temporary holiday help.
This is every store. I worked as retail manager for 14 years. January, Feb there arent much payroll hours as the fiscal year ends at the end of January and they cut payroll hours to increase profit margins the best they can to appease investors. Picks up again around March when Easter shopping starts again and stays pretty steady throughout. Similar to landscapers, or pool maintenance companies whom many of claim unemployment during winter months...
I truly hope so for this woman but she is looking for a 2nd job as the bills don’t stop because the fiscal year ends.
If she is a single mom working one day a week she can go right down to the Department of Social Services and fill out a speedy request to get emergency assistance, public assistance, food stamps. You should tell her about it. She might even be able to do it online...
I am sure she knows that but would rather find a second job if she can. I will be keeping in touch with her though to make sure she is ok and getting all she needs.
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Re: Minimum Wage Effects on Society
Posted by BFNY516
Posted by KarenK122
Posted by Mrs213
Posted by KarenK122
I would much prefer that the money and time was put into revamping the welfare system. Put the money towards free day care so people can get to work. Put the money into job training so people that are starting out at min wage do not have to stay there. There is no reason to give someone working a min wage job with no job experience $20 or $25 an hour. We need to give the people the resources to better themselves and to strive to get a better paying job. And just to clarify, I am talking about able bodied adults. Those with disabilities (and true disabilities) should be given governmental assistance to supplement their income but should be doing some sort of work, whether it a paying job or volunteer to receive that.
The most I read that was being considered at $15/hr. Most people with true intellectual disabilities are in group home settings. There are many able bodied adults who have cognitive impairments that inhibit them. And if they do qualify for any supplemental income there is a ton of red tape to get through, if they can even navigate the system...
I have no issue with $15 but the 20 and 25 was being tossed around the posts. I know all too well about the red tape. I have two children that will be falling into that category and I still believe that they need to reform the services that are given so those who truly need it receive it without all the red tape. Tossing people money or services with no way to better themselves or help with the situation does no one any good. All it does is increase costs with little return.
I'm the one (and I think the only one) who has posted about $20-25 per hour for workers, of all jobs, no matter age or skill, as the basic minimum. I stand by that.
I think often of people who work in daycares or nursery schools, or those who babysit. They are famously underpaid. To care for children, our most precious members of society. People who work as social workers or health care aides to help the most vulnerable - all under paid. They deserve more than they make.
It can be done, as modeled in other nations and based on economic studies. We just have 1% that are too greedy and we have a bunch of sheep who are too busy counting their pennies and eyeing the person "below" them to be concerned with the fat cat at the top. That is what they do - the pit workers against each other while they collect & get all the tax breaks.
$20-25 increase would mean those who have B.A, and Graduate degrees would require a huge increase in pay as well.
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Posted by Mrs213
Posted by KarenK122
I would much prefer that the money and time was put into revamping the welfare system. Put the money towards free day care so people can get to work. Put the money into job training so people that are starting out at min wage do not have to stay there. There is no reason to give someone working a min wage job with no job experience $20 or $25 an hour. We need to give the people the resources to better themselves and to strive to get a better paying job. And just to clarify, I am talking about able bodied adults. Those with disabilities (and true disabilities) should be given governmental assistance to supplement their income but should be doing some sort of work, whether it a paying job or volunteer to receive that.
The most I read that was being considered at $15/hr. Most people with true intellectual disabilities are in group home settings. There are many able bodied adults who have cognitive impairments that inhibit them. And if they do qualify for any supplemental income there is a ton of red tape to get through, if they can even navigate the system...
I have no issue with $15 but the 20 and 25 was being tossed around the posts. I know all too well about the red tape. I have two children that will be falling into that category and I still believe that they need to reform the services that are given so those who truly need it receive it without all the red tape. Tossing people money or services with no way to better themselves or help with the situation does no one any good. All it does is increase costs with little return.
Exactly. I know many on disability who can work but why would they when they will lose money and they get a check every month and discounted rent.
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Posted by valentinesbaby48
Posted by LittleDiva
Maybe we also need to look into why some areas, specifically Long Island are so expensive.
Of course when you are paying $800-$1,000 a month in property taxes minimum wage isn’t going work.
When you want to do anything “fun” with you family it’s going to cost you to go to a county, state, town, village park or beach ....on top of those taxes you are paying.
Taxes to own a vehicle.
Let’s look a little closer as to WHY it costs so much before we raise minimum wage.
Well for one our governor just got a $25,000 raise. Most, if they even get a raise get 3%. We need to start at the top and honestly, what are we paying such high taxes when I can live someplace and have more things to do because of the weather and pay $1,000 for taxes, not $8,000 and be stuck in my house.
agree, and I don't even get 3% raise every year. last year less
Yep many don’t get raises for years and ones that do get less than 3% which doesn’t help much when bills go up every year.
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Re: Minimum Wage Effects on Society
Posted by hmm
Posted by BFNY516
Posted by KarenK122
Posted by Mrs213
Posted by KarenK122
I would much prefer that the money and time was put into revamping the welfare system. Put the money towards free day care so people can get to work. Put the money into job training so people that are starting out at min wage do not have to stay there. There is no reason to give someone working a min wage job with no job experience $20 or $25 an hour. We need to give the people the resources to better themselves and to strive to get a better paying job. And just to clarify, I am talking about able bodied adults. Those with disabilities (and true disabilities) should be given governmental assistance to supplement their income but should be doing some sort of work, whether it a paying job or volunteer to receive that.
The most I read that was being considered at $15/hr. Most people with true intellectual disabilities are in group home settings. There are many able bodied adults who have cognitive impairments that inhibit them. And if they do qualify for any supplemental income there is a ton of red tape to get through, if they can even navigate the system...
I have no issue with $15 but the 20 and 25 was being tossed around the posts. I know all too well about the red tape. I have two children that will be falling into that category and I still believe that they need to reform the services that are given so those who truly need it receive it without all the red tape. Tossing people money or services with no way to better themselves or help with the situation does no one any good. All it does is increase costs with little return.
I'm the one (and I think the only one) who has posted about $20-25 per hour for workers, of all jobs, no matter age or skill, as the basic minimum. I stand by that.
I think often of people who work in daycares or nursery schools, or those who babysit. They are famously underpaid. To care for children, our most precious members of society. People who work as social workers or health care aides to help the most vulnerable - all under paid. They deserve more than they make.
It can be done, as modeled in other nations and based on economic studies. We just have 1% that are too greedy and we have a bunch of sheep who are too busy counting their pennies and eyeing the person "below" them to be concerned with the fat cat at the top. That is what they do - the pit workers against each other while they collect & get all the tax breaks.
$20-25 increase would mean those who have B.A, and Graduate degrees would require a huge increase in pay as well.
Yes, I believe in that too. I’m for anyone who isn’t a CEO to get paid more than they currently are. It’s only fair.
As I’ve repeated numerous times, wages have been stagnant since the 70s.
Well overdue for raises for all.
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Re: Minimum Wage Effects on Society
Posted by BFNY516
Posted by hmm
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Posted by KarenK122
Posted by Mrs213
Posted by KarenK122
I would much prefer that the money and time was put into revamping the welfare system. Put the money towards free day care so people can get to work. Put the money into job training so people that are starting out at min wage do not have to stay there. There is no reason to give someone working a min wage job with no job experience $20 or $25 an hour. We need to give the people the resources to better themselves and to strive to get a better paying job. And just to clarify, I am talking about able bodied adults. Those with disabilities (and true disabilities) should be given governmental assistance to supplement their income but should be doing some sort of work, whether it a paying job or volunteer to receive that.
The most I read that was being considered at $15/hr. Most people with true intellectual disabilities are in group home settings. There are many able bodied adults who have cognitive impairments that inhibit them. And if they do qualify for any supplemental income there is a ton of red tape to get through, if they can even navigate the system...
I have no issue with $15 but the 20 and 25 was being tossed around the posts. I know all too well about the red tape. I have two children that will be falling into that category and I still believe that they need to reform the services that are given so those who truly need it receive it without all the red tape. Tossing people money or services with no way to better themselves or help with the situation does no one any good. All it does is increase costs with little return.
I'm the one (and I think the only one) who has posted about $20-25 per hour for workers, of all jobs, no matter age or skill, as the basic minimum. I stand by that.
I think often of people who work in daycares or nursery schools, or those who babysit. They are famously underpaid. To care for children, our most precious members of society. People who work as social workers or health care aides to help the most vulnerable - all under paid. They deserve more than they make.
It can be done, as modeled in other nations and based on economic studies. We just have 1% that are too greedy and we have a bunch of sheep who are too busy counting their pennies and eyeing the person "below" them to be concerned with the fat cat at the top. That is what they do - the pit workers against each other while they collect & get all the tax breaks.
$20-25 increase would mean those who have B.A, and Graduate degrees would require a huge increase in pay as well.
Yes, I believe in that too. I’m for anyone who isn’t a CEO to get paid more than they currently are. It’s only fair.
As I’ve repeated numerous times, wages have been stagnant since the 70s.
Well overdue for raises for all.
Yes many CEO’s make a lot but most of them didn’t start as a CEO as a 21 year old college graduate. Just like a principal. You pay your dues and your responsibilities are much more than say they 1st year teacher who is just starting out.
My responsibilities will never be as much as my CEO and will never have their pay but I respect what they do and under why they get paid so much. Their experience is amazing and how much they juggle is not something many people would want or keep up with.
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Minimum Wage Effects on Society
“Increasing minimum wage? how am I supposed to feel better about my position in the social hierarchy if there aren’t millions of people unnecessarily suffering beneath me? some of you don’t know economics!”
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Minimum Wage Effects on Society
Wealth of 400 richest Americans:
2010: $1.37T
11: $1.5T
12: $1.7T
13: $2T
14: $2.3T
15: $2.3T
16: $2.4T
17: $2.7T
18: $2.9T
19: $3T
20: $3.2T
Minimum Wage:
2010: $7.25
11: $7.25
12: $7.25
13: $7.25
14: $7.25
15: $7.25
16: $7.25
17: $7.25
18: $7.25
19: $7.25
20: $7.25
21: $7.25
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Re: Minimum Wage Effects on Society
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Posted by Mrs213
Posted by KarenK122
I would much prefer that the money and time was put into revamping the welfare system. Put the money towards free day care so people can get to work. Put the money into job training so people that are starting out at min wage do not have to stay there. There is no reason to give someone working a min wage job with no job experience $20 or $25 an hour. We need to give the people the resources to better themselves and to strive to get a better paying job. And just to clarify, I am talking about able bodied adults. Those with disabilities (and true disabilities) should be given governmental assistance to supplement their income but should be doing some sort of work, whether it a paying job or volunteer to receive that.
The most I read that was being considered at $15/hr. Most people with true intellectual disabilities are in group home settings. There are many able bodied adults who have cognitive impairments that inhibit them. And if they do qualify for any supplemental income there is a ton of red tape to get through, if they can even navigate the system...
I have no issue with $15 but the 20 and 25 was being tossed around the posts. I know all too well about the red tape. I have two children that will be falling into that category and I still believe that they need to reform the services that are given so those who truly need it receive it without all the red tape. Tossing people money or services with no way to better themselves or help with the situation does no one any good. All it does is increase costs with little return.
I'm the one (and I think the only one) who has posted about $20-25 per hour for workers, of all jobs, no matter age or skill, as the basic minimum. I stand by that.
I think often of people who work in daycares or nursery schools, or those who babysit. They are famously underpaid. To care for children, our most precious members of society. People who work as social workers or health care aides to help the most vulnerable - all under paid. They deserve more than they make.
It can be done, as modeled in other nations and based on economic studies. We just have 1% that are too greedy and we have a bunch of sheep who are too busy counting their pennies and eyeing the person "below" them to be concerned with the fat cat at the top. That is what they do - the pit workers against each other while they collect & get all the tax breaks.
$20-25 increase would mean those who have B.A, and Graduate degrees would require a huge increase in pay as well.
Yes, I believe in that too. I’m for anyone who isn’t a CEO to get paid more than they currently are. It’s only fair.
As I’ve repeated numerous times, wages have been stagnant since the 70s.
Well overdue for raises for all.
Yes many CEO’s make a lot but most of them didn’t start as a CEO as a 21 year old college graduate. Just like a principal. You pay your dues and your responsibilities are much more than say they 1st year teacher who is just starting out.
My responsibilities will never be as much as my CEO and will never have their pay but I respect what they do and under why they get paid so much. Their experience is amazing and how much they juggle is not something many people would want or keep up with.
Their experience may or may not be "amazing" but there is no possible justification for the wage gaps with some of these companies.
None of them work 100 million times harder than their lowest paid employee. Everyone gets the same 24 hours in a day.
It's a moral issue, TBH, and anyone who tries to justify some of these outrageous wage gaps is someone with whom I have a fundamental difference and I can only hope the political power of people who hold such beliefs will decrease over time.
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| Posted 1/16/21 11:20 PM |
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Re: Minimum Wage Effects on Society
Posted by BFNY516
Wealth of 400 richest Americans:
2010: $1.37T
11: $1.5T
12: $1.7T
13: $2T
14: $2.3T
15: $2.3T
16: $2.4T
17: $2.7T
18: $2.9T
19: $3T
20: $3.2T
Minimum Wage:
2010: $7.25
11: $7.25
12: $7.25
13: $7.25
14: $7.25
15: $7.25
16: $7.25
17: $7.25
18: $7.25
19: $7.25
20: $7.25
21: $7.25
Not debating the top as yes many make too much but you do know that many places are way above $7.25, right?
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| Posted 1/16/21 11:31 PM |
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Re: Minimum Wage Effects on Society
Posted by JennP
Posted by valentinesbaby48
Posted by BFNY516
Posted by hmm
Posted by BFNY516
Posted by KarenK122
Posted by Mrs213
Posted by KarenK122
I would much prefer that the money and time was put into revamping the welfare system. Put the money towards free day care so people can get to work. Put the money into job training so people that are starting out at min wage do not have to stay there. There is no reason to give someone working a min wage job with no job experience $20 or $25 an hour. We need to give the people the resources to better themselves and to strive to get a better paying job. And just to clarify, I am talking about able bodied adults. Those with disabilities (and true disabilities) should be given governmental assistance to supplement their income but should be doing some sort of work, whether it a paying job or volunteer to receive that.
The most I read that was being considered at $15/hr. Most people with true intellectual disabilities are in group home settings. There are many able bodied adults who have cognitive impairments that inhibit them. And if they do qualify for any supplemental income there is a ton of red tape to get through, if they can even navigate the system...
I have no issue with $15 but the 20 and 25 was being tossed around the posts. I know all too well about the red tape. I have two children that will be falling into that category and I still believe that they need to reform the services that are given so those who truly need it receive it without all the red tape. Tossing people money or services with no way to better themselves or help with the situation does no one any good. All it does is increase costs with little return.
I'm the one (and I think the only one) who has posted about $20-25 per hour for workers, of all jobs, no matter age or skill, as the basic minimum. I stand by that.
I think often of people who work in daycares or nursery schools, or those who babysit. They are famously underpaid. To care for children, our most precious members of society. People who work as social workers or health care aides to help the most vulnerable - all under paid. They deserve more than they make.
It can be done, as modeled in other nations and based on economic studies. We just have 1% that are too greedy and we have a bunch of sheep who are too busy counting their pennies and eyeing the person "below" them to be concerned with the fat cat at the top. That is what they do - the pit workers against each other while they collect & get all the tax breaks.
$20-25 increase would mean those who have B.A, and Graduate degrees would require a huge increase in pay as well.
Yes, I believe in that too. I’m for anyone who isn’t a CEO to get paid more than they currently are. It’s only fair.
As I’ve repeated numerous times, wages have been stagnant since the 70s.
Well overdue for raises for all.
Yes many CEO’s make a lot but most of them didn’t start as a CEO as a 21 year old college graduate. Just like a principal. You pay your dues and your responsibilities are much more than say they 1st year teacher who is just starting out.
My responsibilities will never be as much as my CEO and will never have their pay but I respect what they do and under why they get paid so much. Their experience is amazing and how much they juggle is not something many people would want or keep up with.
Their experience may or may not be "amazing" but there is no possible justification for the wage gaps with some of these companies.
None of them work 100 million times harder than their lowest paid employee. Everyone gets the same 24 hours in a day.
It's a moral issue, TBH, and anyone who tries to justify some of these outrageous wage gaps is someone with whom I have a fundamental difference and I can only hope the political power of people who hold such beliefs will decrease over time.
I totally agree that the gap is too much at many jobs.
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| Posted 1/16/21 11:32 PM |
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jlm2008
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Re: Minimum Wage Effects on Society
Posted by valentinesbaby48
Posted by Mrs213
It's not credible at all. In real life, target and walmart have gone up in sales considerably, due to curbside pickup and pandemic shopping. So much so that Target has already announced they will no longer open on Thanksgiving because they dont need the sales. I have a SIL who works for human resources at Target. They are hiring like mad and I can barely make it through one aisle without bumping into an employee.
Interesting as one of my friends who works full time was just cut down to 1 day a week, yes ONE. Single mom who needs a job. Not sure where this is, but this one, in a popular location always hires before the holidays and then cuts down on employees.
Maybe she's like you and they can't fckn stand her so they are doing the best to get her out.
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| Posted 1/17/21 12:56 PM |
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