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Re: Monoclonal Antibody Treatment
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Why is NY not pushing this for people without covid? I am hearing it works wonders for people WITH covid (know someone who just did it who had covid) but in FL you can get it without having covid.
We are pushing the vaccine here more than we are pushing this treatment it seems.
That's not true. You have to be sick to receive the treatment, even in FL.
Antibody treatment
More than a dozen state-run centers have opened across Florida offering free monoclonal antibody treatment to people sick with COVID-19 and considered to be high risk for severe illness or death.
Often, people who visit these centers feel really sick. The therapy given to them — REGEN-COV by the biotechnology company Regeneron — is designed to give the immune system an extra boost to help combat the disease, enough to hopefully keep them out of the hospital. ---------------- The treatment is for people 12 and older, regardless of vaccination status, who have tested positive and are considered to be “high risk” for severe COVID illness, including hospitalization and death. High-risk people 12 and older who were exposed to COVID and are either not fully vaccinated or have an immunocompromised condition that has lowered their immune response to the vaccine are also eligible.
Some of the conditions the FDA considers to be high risk include diabetes, obesity, chronic lung disease (including moderate to severe asthma), and cardiovascular disease (including congenital heart disease) or hypertension.
Not true I was just talking to my gf in FL this morning and she got it and has not had covid and is not high risk.
Then she lied to get it or is lying to you. The requirements for receiving the treatment are you're positive for COVID and high risk. Ask any doctor and read any article on the treatment being given in FL. You're spreading misinformation. Period.
ETA - When I had COVID I spoke with my dr about the treatment. Antibodies are NOT be given to anyone who isn't currently sick with COVID or high risk. It's not a preventive drug, it's a treatment to help those already sick and at risk for hospitalization.
Here it is - you clearly state you have to be POSITVE FOR COVID AND HIGH RISK. But actually you just need to be exposed to covid and high risk. Perhaps for whatever reason her friend is considered high risk or perhaps doctors are actually just giving it for exposure now without widespread publicity. She already said her friend was exposed. Why are you accusing her of spreading misinformation without doing a simple google search?
My primary specifically said they will not give the treatment simply for exposure. If you test positive and fall into the high risk category they will consider giving the monoclonal antibodies should you become very ill, they monitor you to see how your COVID is progressing. In my case, because I was getting better on my own by day 7ish, he felt it was unnecessary for me to have the treatment despite my underlying issue.
I'm sure there are doctors who don't give a cr@p about following any protocol and simply give it to anyone but it's technically not the right way to go about it.
You never even TESTED for covid. I know you said you had antibodies but why wouldn't you have gone to see if you were 100% infected?
Right - why was her doctor even discussing Monoclonal Antibody Treatments when he wasn't even sure she had covid - just that she was exposed to covid? I guess he's not on the up and up.
If I am not mistaken, the antibody test shows antibodies of having coronavirus. NOT just Covid-19.
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Re: Monoclonal Antibody Treatment
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Why is NY not pushing this for people without covid? I am hearing it works wonders for people WITH covid (know someone who just did it who had covid) but in FL you can get it without having covid.
We are pushing the vaccine here more than we are pushing this treatment it seems.
That's not true. You have to be sick to receive the treatment, even in FL.
Antibody treatment
More than a dozen state-run centers have opened across Florida offering free monoclonal antibody treatment to people sick with COVID-19 and considered to be high risk for severe illness or death.
Often, people who visit these centers feel really sick. The therapy given to them — REGEN-COV by the biotechnology company Regeneron — is designed to give the immune system an extra boost to help combat the disease, enough to hopefully keep them out of the hospital. ---------------- The treatment is for people 12 and older, regardless of vaccination status, who have tested positive and are considered to be “high risk” for severe COVID illness, including hospitalization and death. High-risk people 12 and older who were exposed to COVID and are either not fully vaccinated or have an immunocompromised condition that has lowered their immune response to the vaccine are also eligible.
Some of the conditions the FDA considers to be high risk include diabetes, obesity, chronic lung disease (including moderate to severe asthma), and cardiovascular disease (including congenital heart disease) or hypertension.
Not true I was just talking to my gf in FL this morning and she got it and has not had covid and is not high risk.
Then she lied to get it or is lying to you. The requirements for receiving the treatment are you're positive for COVID and high risk. Ask any doctor and read any article on the treatment being given in FL. You're spreading misinformation. Period.
ETA - When I had COVID I spoke with my dr about the treatment. Antibodies are NOT be given to anyone who isn't currently sick with COVID or high risk. It's not a preventive drug, it's a treatment to help those already sick and at risk for hospitalization.
Here it is - you clearly state you have to be POSITVE FOR COVID AND HIGH RISK. But actually you just need to be exposed to covid and high risk. Perhaps for whatever reason her friend is considered high risk or perhaps doctors are actually just giving it for exposure now without widespread publicity. She already said her friend was exposed. Why are you accusing her of spreading misinformation without doing a simple google search?
My primary specifically said they will not give the treatment simply for exposure. If you test positive and fall into the high risk category they will consider giving the monoclonal antibodies should you become very ill, they monitor you to see how your COVID is progressing. In my case, because I was getting better on my own by day 7ish, he felt it was unnecessary for me to have the treatment despite my underlying issue.
I'm sure there are doctors who don't give a cr@p about following any protocol and simply give it to anyone but it's technically not the right way to go about it.
You never even TESTED for covid. I know you said you had antibodies but why wouldn't you have gone to see if you were 100% infected?
As per the DOCTOR, it was unnecessary to have the PCR or rapid done as both my DD and I came down with the EXACT same symptoms as my DH two days later. Because we'd have to quarantine anyway for two weeks the DOCTOR said there was no point in testing and to just monitor ourselves and check with him via Zoom every few days.
As we ALL had high levels of antibodies we were ALL 100% infected.
ETA - There is no requirement to be tested if someone in your household is positive and you subsequently get sick as well and have to quarantine. Being tested would not change the course of anything, doctors don't do much of anything for you unless you end up in the hospital which thankfully we didn't.
But why wouldn't you go and get tested? Didn't the doctor give you a bunch of different things to take? They just don't say go lay down in a room by yourself and you will be better in a few days.
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Posted 9/10/21 11:38 AM |
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BFNY516
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Monoclonal Antibody Treatment
Maybe I haven’t woke up yet fully but someone help me here. I’m so lost.
Someone in Florida didn’t have covid. They weren’t vaccinated. Not high risk, healthy as a horse. They chose to get either 4 injections or an infusion (seems both are the procedures) They ended up... still not getting Covid?
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Re: Monoclonal Antibody Treatment
Posted by windyweather21
Posted by lululu
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Posted by Hofstra26
Posted by lululu
Posted by Hofstra26
Posted by windyweather21
Posted by Hofstra26
Posted by windyweather21
Why is NY not pushing this for people without covid? I am hearing it works wonders for people WITH covid (know someone who just did it who had covid) but in FL you can get it without having covid.
We are pushing the vaccine here more than we are pushing this treatment it seems.
That's not true. You have to be sick to receive the treatment, even in FL.
Antibody treatment
More than a dozen state-run centers have opened across Florida offering free monoclonal antibody treatment to people sick with COVID-19 and considered to be high risk for severe illness or death.
Often, people who visit these centers feel really sick. The therapy given to them — REGEN-COV by the biotechnology company Regeneron — is designed to give the immune system an extra boost to help combat the disease, enough to hopefully keep them out of the hospital. ---------------- The treatment is for people 12 and older, regardless of vaccination status, who have tested positive and are considered to be “high risk” for severe COVID illness, including hospitalization and death. High-risk people 12 and older who were exposed to COVID and are either not fully vaccinated or have an immunocompromised condition that has lowered their immune response to the vaccine are also eligible.
Some of the conditions the FDA considers to be high risk include diabetes, obesity, chronic lung disease (including moderate to severe asthma), and cardiovascular disease (including congenital heart disease) or hypertension.
Not true I was just talking to my gf in FL this morning and she got it and has not had covid and is not high risk.
Then she lied to get it or is lying to you. The requirements for receiving the treatment are you're positive for COVID and high risk. Ask any doctor and read any article on the treatment being given in FL. You're spreading misinformation. Period.
ETA - When I had COVID I spoke with my dr about the treatment. Antibodies are NOT be given to anyone who isn't currently sick with COVID or high risk. It's not a preventive drug, it's a treatment to help those already sick and at risk for hospitalization.
Here it is - you clearly state you have to be POSITVE FOR COVID AND HIGH RISK. But actually you just need to be exposed to covid and high risk. Perhaps for whatever reason her friend is considered high risk or perhaps doctors are actually just giving it for exposure now without widespread publicity. She already said her friend was exposed. Why are you accusing her of spreading misinformation without doing a simple google search?
My primary specifically said they will not give the treatment simply for exposure. If you test positive and fall into the high risk category they will consider giving the monoclonal antibodies should you become very ill, they monitor you to see how your COVID is progressing. In my case, because I was getting better on my own by day 7ish, he felt it was unnecessary for me to have the treatment despite my underlying issue.
I'm sure there are doctors who don't give a cr@p about following any protocol and simply give it to anyone but it's technically not the right way to go about it.
You never even TESTED for covid. I know you said you had antibodies but why wouldn't you have gone to see if you were 100% infected?
Right - why was her doctor even discussing Monoclonal Antibody Treatments when he wasn't even sure she had covid - just that she was exposed to covid? I guess he's not on the up and up.
If I am not mistaken, the antibody test shows antibodies of having coronavirus. NOT just Covid-19.
I don't really know anything about that. I had covid but tested negative for antibodies. My husband and son tested positive but they were sicker than I was for sure.
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Posted 9/10/21 11:39 AM |
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Re: Monoclonal Antibody Treatment
Posted by BFNY516
Posted by windyweather21
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Windy: did your friend regret not getting the vaccine? Wondering how they reconcile being concerned about a newer vaccine (which I totally get) but then resorting to this experimental treatment? How did they respond to this treatment?
And I’m just assuming they weren’t vaccinated because it seems this experimental treatment that isn’t fully approved by the FDA is for those mainly who were unvaccinated.
Why would anyone regret not getting the vaccine? It seems to be a bigger thing down in FL and I guess that is why many do it.
Well I ask because you started this thread that it works wonders for people with covid, and your girlfriend in Florida had it done.
To me it seems not are experimental and since she sorted to this, I was curious.
It’s two investigational medicines sometimes given via infusion. Sounds a lot more scary (to me) than a vaccine.
But I guess you either don’t know her answer or don’t want to share. That’s fine, I was just trying to understand.
It basically boosts your immune system. It seems to work and the vaccine has many breakthrough cases so many are more leary of the vaccine, I assume. I haven't also interviewed everyone that has gotten it so I don't know everyone's reasoning.
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Posted 9/10/21 11:41 AM |
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Re: Monoclonal Antibody Treatment
Posted by BFNY516
Maybe I haven’t woke up yet fully but someone help me here. I’m so lost.
Someone in Florida didn’t have covid. They weren’t vaccinated. They chose to get either 4 injections or an infusion (seems both are the procedures) They ended up... still not getting Covid?
Basically Windy's friend in Florida was exposed to Covid and was given Monoclonal Antibody Treatment. So clearly Windy is a liar because that is not possible because Hofstra's doctor told her you can only get MAT if you actually HAVE covid and you are high risk. Windy is clearly spreading misinformation AGAIN, except it's not Windy that is spreading misinformation, she's just simply asking a question.
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Posted 9/10/21 11:41 AM |
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Re: Monoclonal Antibody Treatment
It is also used for cancer. This is not something new.
https://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-conditions/cancer/in-depth/monoclonal-antibody/art-20047808
What cancers may be treated with monoclonal antibody drugs? Monoclonal antibody treatments have been developed for some but not all cancers, and certain types of cancer cells are more vulnerable than others to monoclonal antibody interventions. Nonetheless, treatments have been approved for a number of cancers, including the following:
Brain cancer Breast cancer Chronic lymphocytic leukemia Colorectal cancer Head and neck cancers Hodgkin's lymphoma Lung cancer Melanoma Non-Hodgkin's lymphoma Prostate cancer Stomach cancer
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Re: Monoclonal Antibody Treatment
Posted by windyweather21
Posted by Hofstra26
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Posted by lululu
Posted by Hofstra26
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Posted by Hofstra26
Posted by windyweather21
Why is NY not pushing this for people without covid? I am hearing it works wonders for people WITH covid (know someone who just did it who had covid) but in FL you can get it without having covid.
We are pushing the vaccine here more than we are pushing this treatment it seems.
That's not true. You have to be sick to receive the treatment, even in FL.
Antibody treatment
More than a dozen state-run centers have opened across Florida offering free monoclonal antibody treatment to people sick with COVID-19 and considered to be high risk for severe illness or death.
Often, people who visit these centers feel really sick. The therapy given to them — REGEN-COV by the biotechnology company Regeneron — is designed to give the immune system an extra boost to help combat the disease, enough to hopefully keep them out of the hospital. ---------------- The treatment is for people 12 and older, regardless of vaccination status, who have tested positive and are considered to be “high risk” for severe COVID illness, including hospitalization and death. High-risk people 12 and older who were exposed to COVID and are either not fully vaccinated or have an immunocompromised condition that has lowered their immune response to the vaccine are also eligible.
Some of the conditions the FDA considers to be high risk include diabetes, obesity, chronic lung disease (including moderate to severe asthma), and cardiovascular disease (including congenital heart disease) or hypertension.
Not true I was just talking to my gf in FL this morning and she got it and has not had covid and is not high risk.
Then she lied to get it or is lying to you. The requirements for receiving the treatment are you're positive for COVID and high risk. Ask any doctor and read any article on the treatment being given in FL. You're spreading misinformation. Period.
ETA - When I had COVID I spoke with my dr about the treatment. Antibodies are NOT be given to anyone who isn't currently sick with COVID or high risk. It's not a preventive drug, it's a treatment to help those already sick and at risk for hospitalization.
Here it is - you clearly state you have to be POSITVE FOR COVID AND HIGH RISK. But actually you just need to be exposed to covid and high risk. Perhaps for whatever reason her friend is considered high risk or perhaps doctors are actually just giving it for exposure now without widespread publicity. She already said her friend was exposed. Why are you accusing her of spreading misinformation without doing a simple google search?
My primary specifically said they will not give the treatment simply for exposure. If you test positive and fall into the high risk category they will consider giving the monoclonal antibodies should you become very ill, they monitor you to see how your COVID is progressing. In my case, because I was getting better on my own by day 7ish, he felt it was unnecessary for me to have the treatment despite my underlying issue.
I'm sure there are doctors who don't give a cr@p about following any protocol and simply give it to anyone but it's technically not the right way to go about it.
You never even TESTED for covid. I know you said you had antibodies but why wouldn't you have gone to see if you were 100% infected?
As per the DOCTOR, it was unnecessary to have the PCR or rapid done as both my DD and I came down with the EXACT same symptoms as my DH two days later. Because we'd have to quarantine anyway for two weeks the DOCTOR said there was no point in testing and to just monitor ourselves and check with him via Zoom every few days.
As we ALL had high levels of antibodies we were ALL 100% infected.
ETA - There is no requirement to be tested if someone in your household is positive and you subsequently get sick as well and have to quarantine. Being tested would not change the course of anything, doctors don't do much of anything for you unless you end up in the hospital which thankfully we didn't.
But why wouldn't you go and get tested? Didn't the doctor give you a bunch of different things to take? They just don't say go lay down in a room by yourself and you will be better in a few days.
Actually, that's exactly what they tell you to do. Rest and stay hydrated and if your symptoms worsen, go to the ER.
ETA - I didn't take anything outside of any regular meds I'm on and my Vitamin D.
Message edited 9/10/2021 11:43:31 AM.
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Posted 9/10/21 11:42 AM |
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BFNY516
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Re: Monoclonal Antibody Treatment
Posted by windyweather21
Posted by BFNY516
Posted by windyweather21
Posted by BFNY516
Windy: did your friend regret not getting the vaccine? Wondering how they reconcile being concerned about a newer vaccine (which I totally get) but then resorting to this experimental treatment? How did they respond to this treatment?
And I’m just assuming they weren’t vaccinated because it seems this experimental treatment that isn’t fully approved by the FDA is for those mainly who were unvaccinated.
Why would anyone regret not getting the vaccine? It seems to be a bigger thing down in FL and I guess that is why many do it.
Well I ask because you started this thread that it works wonders for people with covid, and your girlfriend in Florida had it done.
To me it seems not are experimental and since she sorted to this, I was curious.
It’s two investigational medicines sometimes given via infusion. Sounds a lot more scary (to me) than a vaccine.
But I guess you either don’t know her answer or don’t want to share. That’s fine, I was just trying to understand.
It basically boosts your immune system. It seems to work and the vaccine has many breakthrough cases so many are more leary of the vaccine, I assume. I haven't also interviewed everyone that has gotten it so I don't know everyone's reasoning.
Thanks. I just feel like it’s equally risky to take some strange cocktail of drugs. I can see doing it if was positive and struggling for sure, but I’m only speaking for myself.
I wonder how long it lasts compared to a vaccine. Still much to learn.
Hopefully your friend remains healthy.
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Posted 9/10/21 11:44 AM |
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Re: Monoclonal Antibody Treatment
Posted by BFNY516
Maybe I haven’t woke up yet fully but someone help me here. I’m so lost.
Someone in Florida didn’t have covid. They weren’t vaccinated. Not high risk, healthy as a horse. They chose to get either 4 injections or an infusion (seems both are the procedures) They ended up... still not getting Covid?
Yes, someone I know was exposed but it seems you don't have to be to get treatment in FL. It boosts their immune system so I guess this is just something else people will do, to do that.
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Posted 9/10/21 11:47 AM |
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Re: Monoclonal Antibody Treatment
Posted by lululu
Posted by windyweather21
Posted by lululu
Posted by windyweather21
Posted by Hofstra26
Posted by lululu
Posted by Hofstra26
Posted by windyweather21
Posted by Hofstra26
Posted by windyweather21
Why is NY not pushing this for people without covid? I am hearing it works wonders for people WITH covid (know someone who just did it who had covid) but in FL you can get it without having covid.
We are pushing the vaccine here more than we are pushing this treatment it seems.
That's not true. You have to be sick to receive the treatment, even in FL.
Antibody treatment
More than a dozen state-run centers have opened across Florida offering free monoclonal antibody treatment to people sick with COVID-19 and considered to be high risk for severe illness or death.
Often, people who visit these centers feel really sick. The therapy given to them — REGEN-COV by the biotechnology company Regeneron — is designed to give the immune system an extra boost to help combat the disease, enough to hopefully keep them out of the hospital. ---------------- The treatment is for people 12 and older, regardless of vaccination status, who have tested positive and are considered to be “high risk” for severe COVID illness, including hospitalization and death. High-risk people 12 and older who were exposed to COVID and are either not fully vaccinated or have an immunocompromised condition that has lowered their immune response to the vaccine are also eligible.
Some of the conditions the FDA considers to be high risk include diabetes, obesity, chronic lung disease (including moderate to severe asthma), and cardiovascular disease (including congenital heart disease) or hypertension.
Not true I was just talking to my gf in FL this morning and she got it and has not had covid and is not high risk.
Then she lied to get it or is lying to you. The requirements for receiving the treatment are you're positive for COVID and high risk. Ask any doctor and read any article on the treatment being given in FL. You're spreading misinformation. Period.
ETA - When I had COVID I spoke with my dr about the treatment. Antibodies are NOT be given to anyone who isn't currently sick with COVID or high risk. It's not a preventive drug, it's a treatment to help those already sick and at risk for hospitalization.
Here it is - you clearly state you have to be POSITVE FOR COVID AND HIGH RISK. But actually you just need to be exposed to covid and high risk. Perhaps for whatever reason her friend is considered high risk or perhaps doctors are actually just giving it for exposure now without widespread publicity. She already said her friend was exposed. Why are you accusing her of spreading misinformation without doing a simple google search?
My primary specifically said they will not give the treatment simply for exposure. If you test positive and fall into the high risk category they will consider giving the monoclonal antibodies should you become very ill, they monitor you to see how your COVID is progressing. In my case, because I was getting better on my own by day 7ish, he felt it was unnecessary for me to have the treatment despite my underlying issue.
I'm sure there are doctors who don't give a cr@p about following any protocol and simply give it to anyone but it's technically not the right way to go about it.
You never even TESTED for covid. I know you said you had antibodies but why wouldn't you have gone to see if you were 100% infected?
Right - why was her doctor even discussing Monoclonal Antibody Treatments when he wasn't even sure she had covid - just that she was exposed to covid? I guess he's not on the up and up.
If I am not mistaken, the antibody test shows antibodies of having coronavirus. NOT just Covid-19.
I don't really know anything about that. I had covid but tested negative for antibodies. My husband and son tested positive but they were sicker than I was for sure.
Interesting. I know people who swore they had it and tested negative but they also say you have a window you need to be tested also after you have covid.
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Posted 9/10/21 11:48 AM |
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Re: Monoclonal Antibody Treatment
Posted by lululu
Posted by BFNY516
Maybe I haven’t woke up yet fully but someone help me here. I’m so lost.
Someone in Florida didn’t have covid. They weren’t vaccinated. They chose to get either 4 injections or an infusion (seems both are the procedures) They ended up... still not getting Covid?
Basically Windy's friend in Florida was exposed to Covid and was given Monoclonal Antibody Treatment. So clearly Windy is a liar because that is not possible because Hofstra's doctor told her you can only get MAT if you actually HAVE covid and you are high risk. Windy is clearly spreading misinformation AGAIN, except it's not Windy that is spreading misinformation, she's just simply asking a question.
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Posted 9/10/21 11:49 AM |
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Re: Monoclonal Antibody Treatment
Posted by Hofstra26
Posted by windyweather21
Posted by Hofstra26
Posted by windyweather21
Posted by Hofstra26
Posted by lululu
Posted by Hofstra26
Posted by windyweather21
Posted by Hofstra26
Posted by windyweather21
Why is NY not pushing this for people without covid? I am hearing it works wonders for people WITH covid (know someone who just did it who had covid) but in FL you can get it without having covid.
We are pushing the vaccine here more than we are pushing this treatment it seems.
That's not true. You have to be sick to receive the treatment, even in FL.
Antibody treatment
More than a dozen state-run centers have opened across Florida offering free monoclonal antibody treatment to people sick with COVID-19 and considered to be high risk for severe illness or death.
Often, people who visit these centers feel really sick. The therapy given to them — REGEN-COV by the biotechnology company Regeneron — is designed to give the immune system an extra boost to help combat the disease, enough to hopefully keep them out of the hospital. ---------------- The treatment is for people 12 and older, regardless of vaccination status, who have tested positive and are considered to be “high risk” for severe COVID illness, including hospitalization and death. High-risk people 12 and older who were exposed to COVID and are either not fully vaccinated or have an immunocompromised condition that has lowered their immune response to the vaccine are also eligible.
Some of the conditions the FDA considers to be high risk include diabetes, obesity, chronic lung disease (including moderate to severe asthma), and cardiovascular disease (including congenital heart disease) or hypertension.
Not true I was just talking to my gf in FL this morning and she got it and has not had covid and is not high risk.
Then she lied to get it or is lying to you. The requirements for receiving the treatment are you're positive for COVID and high risk. Ask any doctor and read any article on the treatment being given in FL. You're spreading misinformation. Period.
ETA - When I had COVID I spoke with my dr about the treatment. Antibodies are NOT be given to anyone who isn't currently sick with COVID or high risk. It's not a preventive drug, it's a treatment to help those already sick and at risk for hospitalization.
Here it is - you clearly state you have to be POSITVE FOR COVID AND HIGH RISK. But actually you just need to be exposed to covid and high risk. Perhaps for whatever reason her friend is considered high risk or perhaps doctors are actually just giving it for exposure now without widespread publicity. She already said her friend was exposed. Why are you accusing her of spreading misinformation without doing a simple google search?
My primary specifically said they will not give the treatment simply for exposure. If you test positive and fall into the high risk category they will consider giving the monoclonal antibodies should you become very ill, they monitor you to see how your COVID is progressing. In my case, because I was getting better on my own by day 7ish, he felt it was unnecessary for me to have the treatment despite my underlying issue.
I'm sure there are doctors who don't give a cr@p about following any protocol and simply give it to anyone but it's technically not the right way to go about it.
You never even TESTED for covid. I know you said you had antibodies but why wouldn't you have gone to see if you were 100% infected?
As per the DOCTOR, it was unnecessary to have the PCR or rapid done as both my DD and I came down with the EXACT same symptoms as my DH two days later. Because we'd have to quarantine anyway for two weeks the DOCTOR said there was no point in testing and to just monitor ourselves and check with him via Zoom every few days.
As we ALL had high levels of antibodies we were ALL 100% infected.
ETA - There is no requirement to be tested if someone in your household is positive and you subsequently get sick as well and have to quarantine. Being tested would not change the course of anything, doctors don't do much of anything for you unless you end up in the hospital which thankfully we didn't.
But why wouldn't you go and get tested? Didn't the doctor give you a bunch of different things to take? They just don't say go lay down in a room by yourself and you will be better in a few days.
Actually, that's exactly what they tell you to do. Rest and stay hydrated and if your symptoms worsen, go to the ER.
ETA - I didn't take anything outside of any regular meds I'm on and my Vitamin D.
Maybe your regular meds are the ones they recommend people to take.
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Posted 9/10/21 11:49 AM |
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BFNY516
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Re: Monoclonal Antibody Treatment
Posted by lululu
Posted by BFNY516
Maybe I haven’t woke up yet fully but someone help me here. I’m so lost.
Someone in Florida didn’t have covid. They weren’t vaccinated. They chose to get either 4 injections or an infusion (seems both are the procedures) They ended up... still not getting Covid?
Basically Windy's friend in Florida was exposed to Covid and was given Monoclonal Antibody Treatment. So clearly Windy is a liar because that is not possible because Hofstra's doctor told her you can only get MAT if you actually HAVE covid and you are high risk. Windy is clearly spreading misinformation AGAIN, except it's not Windy that is spreading misinformation, she's just simply asking a question.
I was trying to follow the the thread for just Windy’s post but it’s difficult when there’s back and forth over who is right, who is wrong, etc. I lost track.
We all have something to learn here and like I said before, science is fluid. No one really knows, we are all just trying to gather info. Ive only heard of people taking it with a positive Covid diagnosis, not as a preventative.
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Posted 9/10/21 11:50 AM |
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Re: Monoclonal Antibody Treatment
Posted by BFNY516
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Posted by BFNY516
Windy: did your friend regret not getting the vaccine? Wondering how they reconcile being concerned about a newer vaccine (which I totally get) but then resorting to this experimental treatment? How did they respond to this treatment?
And I’m just assuming they weren’t vaccinated because it seems this experimental treatment that isn’t fully approved by the FDA is for those mainly who were unvaccinated.
Why would anyone regret not getting the vaccine? It seems to be a bigger thing down in FL and I guess that is why many do it.
Well I ask because you started this thread that it works wonders for people with covid, and your girlfriend in Florida had it done.
To me it seems not are experimental and since she sorted to this, I was curious.
It’s two investigational medicines sometimes given via infusion. Sounds a lot more scary (to me) than a vaccine.
But I guess you either don’t know her answer or don’t want to share. That’s fine, I was just trying to understand.
It basically boosts your immune system. It seems to work and the vaccine has many breakthrough cases so many are more leary of the vaccine, I assume. I haven't also interviewed everyone that has gotten it so I don't know everyone's reasoning.
Thanks. I just feel like it’s equally risky to take some strange cocktail of drugs. I can see doing it if was positive and struggling for sure, but I’m only speaking for myself.
I wonder how long it lasts compared to a vaccine. Still much to learn.
Hopefully your friend remains healthy.
Thanks, she has been fine this entire time and her daughter tested positive and came home from college but it was just a slight cold but I guess others tested at school and they all were worried.
People will try many things, just like this new vaccine with no hesitation so nothing that makes me think twice.
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Posted 9/10/21 11:51 AM |
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Hofstra26
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Re: Monoclonal Antibody Treatment
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Why is NY not pushing this for people without covid? I am hearing it works wonders for people WITH covid (know someone who just did it who had covid) but in FL you can get it without having covid.
We are pushing the vaccine here more than we are pushing this treatment it seems.
That's not true. You have to be sick to receive the treatment, even in FL.
Antibody treatment
More than a dozen state-run centers have opened across Florida offering free monoclonal antibody treatment to people sick with COVID-19 and considered to be high risk for severe illness or death.
Often, people who visit these centers feel really sick. The therapy given to them — REGEN-COV by the biotechnology company Regeneron — is designed to give the immune system an extra boost to help combat the disease, enough to hopefully keep them out of the hospital. ---------------- The treatment is for people 12 and older, regardless of vaccination status, who have tested positive and are considered to be “high risk” for severe COVID illness, including hospitalization and death. High-risk people 12 and older who were exposed to COVID and are either not fully vaccinated or have an immunocompromised condition that has lowered their immune response to the vaccine are also eligible.
Some of the conditions the FDA considers to be high risk include diabetes, obesity, chronic lung disease (including moderate to severe asthma), and cardiovascular disease (including congenital heart disease) or hypertension.
Not true I was just talking to my gf in FL this morning and she got it and has not had covid and is not high risk.
Then she lied to get it or is lying to you. The requirements for receiving the treatment are you're positive for COVID and high risk. Ask any doctor and read any article on the treatment being given in FL. You're spreading misinformation. Period.
ETA - When I had COVID I spoke with my dr about the treatment. Antibodies are NOT be given to anyone who isn't currently sick with COVID or high risk. It's not a preventive drug, it's a treatment to help those already sick and at risk for hospitalization.
Here it is - you clearly state you have to be POSITVE FOR COVID AND HIGH RISK. But actually you just need to be exposed to covid and high risk. Perhaps for whatever reason her friend is considered high risk or perhaps doctors are actually just giving it for exposure now without widespread publicity. She already said her friend was exposed. Why are you accusing her of spreading misinformation without doing a simple google search?
My primary specifically said they will not give the treatment simply for exposure. If you test positive and fall into the high risk category they will consider giving the monoclonal antibodies should you become very ill, they monitor you to see how your COVID is progressing. In my case, because I was getting better on my own by day 7ish, he felt it was unnecessary for me to have the treatment despite my underlying issue.
I'm sure there are doctors who don't give a cr@p about following any protocol and simply give it to anyone but it's technically not the right way to go about it.
You never even TESTED for covid. I know you said you had antibodies but why wouldn't you have gone to see if you were 100% infected?
As per the DOCTOR, it was unnecessary to have the PCR or rapid done as both my DD and I came down with the EXACT same symptoms as my DH two days later. Because we'd have to quarantine anyway for two weeks the DOCTOR said there was no point in testing and to just monitor ourselves and check with him via Zoom every few days.
As we ALL had high levels of antibodies we were ALL 100% infected.
ETA - There is no requirement to be tested if someone in your household is positive and you subsequently get sick as well and have to quarantine. Being tested would not change the course of anything, doctors don't do much of anything for you unless you end up in the hospital which thankfully we didn't.
But why wouldn't you go and get tested? Didn't the doctor give you a bunch of different things to take? They just don't say go lay down in a room by yourself and you will be better in a few days.
Actually, that's exactly what they tell you to do. Rest and stay hydrated and if your symptoms worsen, go to the ER.
ETA - I didn't take anything outside of any regular meds I'm on and my Vitamin D.
Maybe your regular meds are the ones they recommend people to take.
Nope.
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Posted 9/10/21 11:53 AM |
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Re: Monoclonal Antibody Treatment
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Why is NY not pushing this for people without covid? I am hearing it works wonders for people WITH covid (know someone who just did it who had covid) but in FL you can get it without having covid.
We are pushing the vaccine here more than we are pushing this treatment it seems.
That's not true. You have to be sick to receive the treatment, even in FL.
Antibody treatment
More than a dozen state-run centers have opened across Florida offering free monoclonal antibody treatment to people sick with COVID-19 and considered to be high risk for severe illness or death.
Often, people who visit these centers feel really sick. The therapy given to them — REGEN-COV by the biotechnology company Regeneron — is designed to give the immune system an extra boost to help combat the disease, enough to hopefully keep them out of the hospital. ---------------- The treatment is for people 12 and older, regardless of vaccination status, who have tested positive and are considered to be “high risk” for severe COVID illness, including hospitalization and death. High-risk people 12 and older who were exposed to COVID and are either not fully vaccinated or have an immunocompromised condition that has lowered their immune response to the vaccine are also eligible.
Some of the conditions the FDA considers to be high risk include diabetes, obesity, chronic lung disease (including moderate to severe asthma), and cardiovascular disease (including congenital heart disease) or hypertension.
Not true I was just talking to my gf in FL this morning and she got it and has not had covid and is not high risk.
Then she lied to get it or is lying to you. The requirements for receiving the treatment are you're positive for COVID and high risk. Ask any doctor and read any article on the treatment being given in FL. You're spreading misinformation. Period.
ETA - When I had COVID I spoke with my dr about the treatment. Antibodies are NOT be given to anyone who isn't currently sick with COVID or high risk. It's not a preventive drug, it's a treatment to help those already sick and at risk for hospitalization.
Here it is - you clearly state you have to be POSITVE FOR COVID AND HIGH RISK. But actually you just need to be exposed to covid and high risk. Perhaps for whatever reason her friend is considered high risk or perhaps doctors are actually just giving it for exposure now without widespread publicity. She already said her friend was exposed. Why are you accusing her of spreading misinformation without doing a simple google search?
My primary specifically said they will not give the treatment simply for exposure. If you test positive and fall into the high risk category they will consider giving the monoclonal antibodies should you become very ill, they monitor you to see how your COVID is progressing. In my case, because I was getting better on my own by day 7ish, he felt it was unnecessary for me to have the treatment despite my underlying issue.
I'm sure there are doctors who don't give a cr@p about following any protocol and simply give it to anyone but it's technically not the right way to go about it.
You never even TESTED for covid. I know you said you had antibodies but why wouldn't you have gone to see if you were 100% infected?
As per the DOCTOR, it was unnecessary to have the PCR or rapid done as both my DD and I came down with the EXACT same symptoms as my DH two days later. Because we'd have to quarantine anyway for two weeks the DOCTOR said there was no point in testing and to just monitor ourselves and check with him via Zoom every few days.
As we ALL had high levels of antibodies we were ALL 100% infected.
ETA - There is no requirement to be tested if someone in your household is positive and you subsequently get sick as well and have to quarantine. Being tested would not change the course of anything, doctors don't do much of anything for you unless you end up in the hospital which thankfully we didn't.
But why wouldn't you go and get tested? Didn't the doctor give you a bunch of different things to take? They just don't say go lay down in a room by yourself and you will be better in a few days.
Actually, that's exactly what they tell you to do. Rest and stay hydrated and if your symptoms worsen, go to the ER.
ETA - I didn't take anything outside of any regular meds I'm on and my Vitamin D.
Maybe your regular meds are the ones they recommend people to take.
Nope.
Hmm that is odd. You didn't do your own research to see what they recommended? I know the majority is basically just meds you take for the common cold.
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Posted 9/10/21 11:55 AM |
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Re: Monoclonal Antibody Treatment
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Windy: did your friend regret not getting the vaccine? Wondering how they reconcile being concerned about a newer vaccine (which I totally get) but then resorting to this experimental treatment? How did they respond to this treatment?
And I’m just assuming they weren’t vaccinated because it seems this experimental treatment that isn’t fully approved by the FDA is for those mainly who were unvaccinated.
Why would anyone regret not getting the vaccine? It seems to be a bigger thing down in FL and I guess that is why many do it.
Well I ask because you started this thread that it works wonders for people with covid, and your girlfriend in Florida had it done.
To me it seems not are experimental and since she sorted to this, I was curious.
It’s two investigational medicines sometimes given via infusion. Sounds a lot more scary (to me) than a vaccine.
But I guess you either don’t know her answer or don’t want to share. That’s fine, I was just trying to understand.
It basically boosts your immune system. It seems to work and the vaccine has many breakthrough cases so many are more leary of the vaccine, I assume. I haven't also interviewed everyone that has gotten it so I don't know everyone's reasoning.
Thanks. I just feel like it’s equally risky to take some strange cocktail of drugs. I can see doing it if was positive and struggling for sure, but I’m only speaking for myself.
I wonder how long it lasts compared to a vaccine. Still much to learn.
Hopefully your friend remains healthy.
Thanks, she has been fine this entire time and her daughter tested positive and came home from college but it was just a slight cold but I guess others tested at school and they all were worried.
People will try many things, just like this new vaccine with no hesitation so nothing that makes me think twice.
That’s a valid point. I just think the way it sounds makes me want to faint but that’s my own issue.
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Re: Monoclonal Antibody Treatment
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Windy: did your friend regret not getting the vaccine? Wondering how they reconcile being concerned about a newer vaccine (which I totally get) but then resorting to this experimental treatment? How did they respond to this treatment?
And I’m just assuming they weren’t vaccinated because it seems this experimental treatment that isn’t fully approved by the FDA is for those mainly who were unvaccinated.
Why would anyone regret not getting the vaccine? It seems to be a bigger thing down in FL and I guess that is why many do it.
Well I ask because you started this thread that it works wonders for people with covid, and your girlfriend in Florida had it done.
To me it seems not are experimental and since she sorted to this, I was curious.
It’s two investigational medicines sometimes given via infusion. Sounds a lot more scary (to me) than a vaccine.
But I guess you either don’t know her answer or don’t want to share. That’s fine, I was just trying to understand.
It basically boosts your immune system. It seems to work and the vaccine has many breakthrough cases so many are more leary of the vaccine, I assume. I haven't also interviewed everyone that has gotten it so I don't know everyone's reasoning.
Thanks. I just feel like it’s equally risky to take some strange cocktail of drugs. I can see doing it if was positive and struggling for sure, but I’m only speaking for myself.
I wonder how long it lasts compared to a vaccine. Still much to learn.
Hopefully your friend remains healthy.
Thanks, she has been fine this entire time and her daughter tested positive and came home from college but it was just a slight cold but I guess others tested at school and they all were worried.
People will try many things, just like this new vaccine with no hesitation so nothing that makes me think twice.
That’s a valid point. I just think the way it sounds makes me want to faint but that’s my own issue.
Oh I get that as I don't take anything unless I am REALLY sick. I will take airborne if someone is sick in my house to stop anything coming to me as I just don't have time to be sick
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Posted 9/10/21 11:57 AM |
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Re: Monoclonal Antibody Treatment
BTW I think that the reason that they aren't giving the treatment to anyone that has covid is because there simply is not enough of it. I was told (by doctors) that it will help lessen the symptoms for most anyone with covid - similar to Tamiflu, but they were reserving it for more severe cases. I do think it is more of a treatment than a preventative measure at this point but perhaps they will start using it as a preventative. I know people that get IV infusions for other diseases such as MS as preventative measures. However an infusion is much more difficult and timely to administer than a shot so it's not that practical.
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Re: Monoclonal Antibody Treatment
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BTW I think that the reason that they aren't giving the treatment to anyone that has covid is because there simply is not enough of it. I was told (by doctors) that it will help lessen the symptoms for most anyone with covid - similar to Tamiflu, but they were reserving it for more severe cases. I do think it is more of a treatment than a preventative measure at this point but perhaps they will start using it as a preventative. I know people that get IV infusions for other diseases such as MS as preventative measures. However an infusion is much more difficult and timely to administer than a shot so it's not that practical.
Interesting, I could see that reasoning.
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Posted 9/10/21 12:08 PM |
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Deeluvsvinny
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Monoclonal Antibody Treatment
My friend & her husband had the treatment here in NY this summer when she tested positive. They had a worse case than others I knew- but not hospitalized - just more severe symptoms. She said it did nothing...meaning she didn't feel any better after treatment and symptoms still lasted 2 weeks. she still doesn't have taste or smell back completely either.
Now my question (not trying to start drama, genuinely curious)- you are okay with trying this new cocktail of drugs if you are not sick, not showing symptoms, etc- but you don't think they should test people if they are exposed and not showing symptoms? This seems so drastic and yet testing, which is nothing, you're against?
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Posted 9/10/21 12:40 PM |
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Re: Monoclonal Antibody Treatment
What are in these drugs?? Are there safer ingredients then what’s in the vaccine?
Just wondering if people who aren’t willing to get vaccinated would be really willing to get this instead? At least those who are generally against vaccines.
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Posted 9/10/21 1:11 PM |
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Re: Monoclonal Antibody Treatment
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My friend & her husband had the treatment here in NY this summer when she tested positive. They had a worse case than others I knew- but not hospitalized - just more severe symptoms. She said it did nothing...meaning she didn't feel any better after treatment and symptoms still lasted 2 weeks. she still doesn't have taste or smell back completely either.
Now my question (not trying to start drama, genuinely curious)- you are okay with trying this new cocktail of drugs if you are not sick, not showing symptoms, etc- but you don't think they should test people if they are exposed and not showing symptoms? This seems so drastic and yet testing, which is nothing, you're against?
Monoclonal antibodies have been around for a very long time. This is not a new concept. Way longer than MRNA technology. There is really nothing drastic about it.
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Posted 9/10/21 1:19 PM |
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Re: Monoclonal Antibody Treatment
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What are in these drugs?? Are there safer ingredients then what’s in the vaccine?
Just wondering if people who aren’t willing to get vaccinated would be really willing to get this instead? At least those who are generally against vaccines.
I put above what they have been used for other things, especially cancer. This is not new, but something they seem to find works to help with covid.
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