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Re: Monoclonal Antibody Treatment
Posted by windyweather21
Posted by blu6385
What are in these drugs??
Are there safer ingredients then what’s in the vaccine?
Just wondering if people who aren’t willing to get vaccinated would be really willing to get this instead? At least those who are generally against vaccines.
I put above what they have been used for other things, especially cancer. This is not new, but something they seem to find works to help with covid.
That still doesn’t answer the question though and it’s probably more for those who are against all vaccines.
I’m wondering if they are willing to put whatever are in these drug is their body but aren’t willing to get vaccines. Logically I would think they wouldn’t but maybe whatever is in this drug they feel is ok to be in their bodies.
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Re: Monoclonal Antibody Treatment
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What are in these drugs??
Are there safer ingredients then what’s in the vaccine?
Just wondering if people who aren’t willing to get vaccinated would be really willing to get this instead? At least those who are generally against vaccines.
I put above what they have been used for other things, especially cancer. This is not new, but something they seem to find works to help with covid.
That still doesn’t answer the question though and it’s probably more for those who are against all vaccines.
I’m wondering if they are willing to put whatever are in these drug is their body but aren’t willing to get vaccines. Logically I would think they wouldn’t but maybe whatever is in this drug they feel is ok to be in their bodies.
Yeah that I do not know. You would have to ask someone who has gotten it I guess.
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lululu
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Re: Monoclonal Antibody Treatment
Posted by blu6385
Posted by windyweather21
Posted by blu6385
What are in these drugs??
Are there safer ingredients then what’s in the vaccine?
Just wondering if people who aren’t willing to get vaccinated would be really willing to get this instead? At least those who are generally against vaccines.
I put above what they have been used for other things, especially cancer. This is not new, but something they seem to find works to help with covid.
That still doesn’t answer the question though and it’s probably more for those who are against all vaccines.
I’m wondering if they are willing to put whatever are in these drug is their body but aren’t willing to get vaccines. Logically I would think they wouldn’t but maybe whatever is in this drug they feel is ok to be in their bodies.
I think a lot of people on this board make a jump believing those who are reluctant to get the covid vaccine are against vaccines. I think many people just have concerns over this one particular vaccine as it is being mandated and it is still relatively new.
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Deeluvsvinny
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Re: Monoclonal Antibody Treatment
Posted by lululu
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My friend & her husband had the treatment here in NY this summer when she tested positive. They had a worse case than others I knew- but not hospitalized - just more severe symptoms. She said it did nothing...meaning she didn't feel any better after treatment and symptoms still lasted 2 weeks. she still doesn't have taste or smell back completely either.
Now my question (not trying to start drama, genuinely curious)- you are okay with trying this new cocktail of drugs if you are not sick, not showing symptoms, etc- but you don't think they should test people if they are exposed and not showing symptoms? This seems so drastic and yet testing, which is nothing, you're against?
Monoclonal antibodies have been around for a very long time. This is not a new concept. Way longer than MRNA technology. There is really nothing drastic about it.
Ok, it's not new.
But my question is still: you don't want people who aren't showing symptoms tested, but you think it's okay for them to get this therapy? I don't get that.
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lululu
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Re: Monoclonal Antibody Treatment
Posted by Deeluvsvinny
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My friend & her husband had the treatment here in NY this summer when she tested positive. They had a worse case than others I knew- but not hospitalized - just more severe symptoms. She said it did nothing...meaning she didn't feel any better after treatment and symptoms still lasted 2 weeks. she still doesn't have taste or smell back completely either.
Now my question (not trying to start drama, genuinely curious)- you are okay with trying this new cocktail of drugs if you are not sick, not showing symptoms, etc- but you don't think they should test people if they are exposed and not showing symptoms? This seems so drastic and yet testing, which is nothing, you're against?
Monoclonal antibodies have been around for a very long time. This is not a new concept. Way longer than MRNA technology. There is really nothing drastic about it.
Ok, it's not new.
But my question is still: you don't want people who aren't showing symptoms tested, but you think it's okay for them to get this therapy? I don't get that.
I’m not sure how one has anything to do with the other.
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Re: Monoclonal Antibody Treatment
Posted by BFNY516
This is also the same as “follow the money” with the vaccine then, right? It also seems to be a novel concept. But considering people are dropping like flies in Florida, I guess DeSantis has to do something.
From Miami Herald:
REGEN-COV consists of two investigational medicines, casirivimab and imdevimab, given together at the same time through an IV infusion or four injections. Patients will have to wait at the site for about an hour to make sure they don’t get side effects.
Well if it’s investigational, then why would anyone want it as an alternative to the vaccine?? Isn’t it unsafe and unproven? Can’t be putting that in peoples bodies, can we??
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Re: Monoclonal Antibody Treatment
Posted by windyweather21
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Wait I'm confused, they are giving this to healthy people?
As a preventative?
In FL, yes they are
But why would perfectly healthy people put something foreign in their body to fight a virus they don’t have? Isn’t this what their immune system is for??? Make it make sense!!
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| Posted 9/11/21 3:41 AM |
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Re: Monoclonal Antibody Treatment
Posted by Hofstra26
Since you brought up this topic VB/windy/hazel I'm curious as to why you're seemingly "ok" with and excited about an antibody infusion, which by the way is NOT FDA approved and only has emergency authorization, but yet you have yourself twisted in knots over the vaccine. Seems odd that you refuse to get the vaccine because of the "potential dangers" but yet you wouldn't have a problem infusing a non-FDA approved chemical treatment into your body instead. You seem confused.
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Re: Monoclonal Antibody Treatment
Maybe you are missing the point. Maybe the point is why is the only thing being pushed and mandated the Pfizer vaccine that isn’t working??? Why is only their vaccine authorised and now mandated for teens, next kids, and the boosters. Why is one company’s solution being mandated when it isn’t even working. As vaccinations go up, so do cases. Clearly this isn’t the answer so why aren’t we trying other promising solutions to this problem? Why are we mandating away with only one plan that isn’t working? Doesn’t that scare u? It scares me! This will never end unless our leader mandates exploration of other solutions - other treatments, mandates Pfizer to go back to the drawing board with a safer more effective vaccine or treatment!!!
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Re: Monoclonal Antibody Treatment
Posted by itsbabytime
Maybe you are missing the point. Maybe the point is why is the only thing being pushed and mandated the Pfizer vaccine that isn’t working??? Why is only their vaccine authorised and now mandated for teens, next kids, and the boosters. Why is one company’s solution being mandated when it isn’t even working. As vaccinations go up, so do cases. Clearly this isn’t the answer so why aren’t we trying other promising solutions to this problem? Why are we mandating away with only one plan that isn’t working? Doesn’t that scare u? It scares me! This will never end unless our leader mandates exploration of other solutions - other treatments, mandates Pfizer to go back to the drawing board with a safer more effective vaccine or treatment!!!
Studies are being done on treatments for people with covid. I don’t know why you think nothing is being done in that realm. My friend who is an infectious disease scientist is literally working on a clinical trial looking at 3 different outpatient treatments.
Also - vaccines are working. Your risk of getting covid is much lower if you’ve been vaccinated. Areas with high vaccination rates have less cases and far fewer hospitalizations and deaths.
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Re: Monoclonal Antibody Treatment
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Maybe you are missing the point. Maybe the point is why is the only thing being pushed and mandated the Pfizer vaccine that isn’t working??? Why is only their vaccine authorised and now mandated for teens, next kids, and the boosters. Why is one company’s solution being mandated when it isn’t even working. As vaccinations go up, so do cases. Clearly this isn’t the answer so why aren’t we trying other promising solutions to this problem? Why are we mandating away with only one plan that isn’t working? Doesn’t that scare u? It scares me! This will never end unless our leader mandates exploration of other solutions - other treatments, mandates Pfizer to go back to the drawing board with a safer more effective vaccine or treatment!!!
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Re: Monoclonal Antibody Treatment
Posted by PitterPatter11
Posted by itsbabytime
Maybe you are missing the point. Maybe the point is why is the only thing being pushed and mandated the Pfizer vaccine that isn’t working??? Why is only their vaccine authorised and now mandated for teens, next kids, and the boosters. Why is one company’s solution being mandated when it isn’t even working. As vaccinations go up, so do cases. Clearly this isn’t the answer so why aren’t we trying other promising solutions to this problem? Why are we mandating away with only one plan that isn’t working? Doesn’t that scare u? It scares me! This will never end unless our leader mandates exploration of other solutions - other treatments, mandates Pfizer to go back to the drawing board with a safer more effective vaccine or treatment!!!
Studies are being done on treatments for people with covid. I don’t know why you think nothing is being done in that realm. My friend who is an infectious disease scientist is literally working on a clinical trial looking at 3 different outpatient treatments.
Also - vaccines are working. Your risk of getting covid is much lower if you’ve been vaccinated. Areas with high vaccination rates have less cases and far fewer hospitalizations and deaths.
Exactly this.
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So funny that many posters on this thread, said back in May 2020, they would not, in any way give themselves or their kids vaccines when they came out and they would wait.
Now people who don’t want to be vaccinated are selfish and horrible people.
Goes to show you who bend and can be brainwashed and manipulated very easily.
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Re: Monoclonal Antibody Treatment
Posted by PitterPatter11
Posted by itsbabytime
Maybe you are missing the point. Maybe the point is why is the only thing being pushed and mandated the Pfizer vaccine that isn’t working??? Why is only their vaccine authorised and now mandated for teens, next kids, and the boosters. Why is one company’s solution being mandated when it isn’t even working. As vaccinations go up, so do cases. Clearly this isn’t the answer so why aren’t we trying other promising solutions to this problem? Why are we mandating away with only one plan that isn’t working? Doesn’t that scare u? It scares me! This will never end unless our leader mandates exploration of other solutions - other treatments, mandates Pfizer to go back to the drawing board with a safer more effective vaccine or treatment!!!
Studies are being done on treatments for people with covid. I don’t know why you think nothing is being done in that realm. My friend who is an infectious disease scientist is literally working on a clinical trial looking at 3 different outpatient treatments.
Also - vaccines are working. Your risk of getting covid is much lower if you’ve been vaccinated. Areas with high vaccination rates have less cases and far fewer hospitalizations and deaths.
Exactly. And I am so SO sick of people saying vaccines aren't working. Yes, they are.
Anecdotal but I caught Covid because I was around unvaccinated, unmasked people (and I do know 100% that this is true. This is why masks, at the very least, do matter for anyone who thinks otherwise. I am fully vaccinated and was wearing a mask, and I was stuck in a bad situation. So I'm also sick of the "why do you care if you're protected" argument. Because it does still affect other people.) I then had nine people who were considered close contacts. ALL were fully vaccinated (some as far back as -- gasp -- January/February). NOT ONE caught Covid. NOT. ONE. That includes my spouse. My doctor told me it's because if you're vaccinated, it seems that while you might carry the same viral load, you are still less infectious.
Are the vaccines 100% effective? No. They never said they were. Was my case minor? Yes, it was. That was what was promised. Do I feel incredibly lucky? I absolutely do. I will also get a booster/third shot when I'm eligible like my parents already have.
I am not interested in an argument. I just needed to get this off my chest.
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Re: Monoclonal Antibody Treatment
Posted by nel
Posted by PitterPatter11
Posted by itsbabytime
Maybe you are missing the point. Maybe the point is why is the only thing being pushed and mandated the Pfizer vaccine that isn’t working??? Why is only their vaccine authorised and now mandated for teens, next kids, and the boosters. Why is one company’s solution being mandated when it isn’t even working. As vaccinations go up, so do cases. Clearly this isn’t the answer so why aren’t we trying other promising solutions to this problem? Why are we mandating away with only one plan that isn’t working? Doesn’t that scare u? It scares me! This will never end unless our leader mandates exploration of other solutions - other treatments, mandates Pfizer to go back to the drawing board with a safer more effective vaccine or treatment!!!
Studies are being done on treatments for people with covid. I don’t know why you think nothing is being done in that realm. My friend who is an infectious disease scientist is literally working on a clinical trial looking at 3 different outpatient treatments.
Also - vaccines are working. Your risk of getting covid is much lower if you’ve been vaccinated. Areas with high vaccination rates have less cases and far fewer hospitalizations and deaths.
Exactly. And I am so SO sick of people saying vaccines aren't working. Yes, they are.
Anecdotal but I caught Covid because I was around unvaccinated, unmasked people (and I do know 100% that this is true. This is why masks, at the very least, do matter for anyone who thinks otherwise. I am fully vaccinated and was wearing a mask, and I was stuck in a bad situation. So I'm also sick of the "why do you care if you're protected" argument. Because it does still affect other people.) I then had nine people who were considered close contacts. ALL were fully vaccinated (some as far back as -- gasp -- January/February). NOT ONE caught Covid. NOT. ONE. That includes my spouse. My doctor told me it's because if you're vaccinated, it seems that while you might carry the same viral load, you are still less infectious.
Are the vaccines 100% effective? No. They never said they were. Was my case minor? Yes, it was. That was what was promised. Do I feel incredibly lucky? I absolutely do. I will also get a booster/third shot when I'm eligible like my parents already have.
I am not interested in an argument. I just needed to get this off my chest.
So you got sick vaccinated AND wearing a mask at all times around people?
You only know vaccinated people that have not had Covid, no unvaccinated?
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nel
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Re: Monoclonal Antibody Treatment
Posted by windyweather21
Posted by nel
Posted by PitterPatter11
Posted by itsbabytime
Maybe you are missing the point. Maybe the point is why is the only thing being pushed and mandated the Pfizer vaccine that isn’t working??? Why is only their vaccine authorised and now mandated for teens, next kids, and the boosters. Why is one company’s solution being mandated when it isn’t even working. As vaccinations go up, so do cases. Clearly this isn’t the answer so why aren’t we trying other promising solutions to this problem? Why are we mandating away with only one plan that isn’t working? Doesn’t that scare u? It scares me! This will never end unless our leader mandates exploration of other solutions - other treatments, mandates Pfizer to go back to the drawing board with a safer more effective vaccine or treatment!!!
Studies are being done on treatments for people with covid. I don’t know why you think nothing is being done in that realm. My friend who is an infectious disease scientist is literally working on a clinical trial looking at 3 different outpatient treatments.
Also - vaccines are working. Your risk of getting covid is much lower if you’ve been vaccinated. Areas with high vaccination rates have less cases and far fewer hospitalizations and deaths.
Exactly. And I am so SO sick of people saying vaccines aren't working. Yes, they are.
Anecdotal but I caught Covid because I was around unvaccinated, unmasked people (and I do know 100% that this is true. This is why masks, at the very least, do matter for anyone who thinks otherwise. I am fully vaccinated and was wearing a mask, and I was stuck in a bad situation. So I'm also sick of the "why do you care if you're protected" argument. Because it does still affect other people.) I then had nine people who were considered close contacts. ALL were fully vaccinated (some as far back as -- gasp -- January/February). NOT ONE caught Covid. NOT. ONE. That includes my spouse. My doctor told me it's because if you're vaccinated, it seems that while you might carry the same viral load, you are still less infectious.
Are the vaccines 100% effective? No. They never said they were. Was my case minor? Yes, it was. That was what was promised. Do I feel incredibly lucky? I absolutely do. I will also get a booster/third shot when I'm eligible like my parents already have.
I am not interested in an argument. I just needed to get this off my chest.
So you got sick vaccinated AND wearing a mask at all times around people?
You only know vaccinated people that have not had Covid, no unvaccinated?
This will be the only time I reply to you just to say -- I love that THIS is what you took from all that I said.
Yes. I was masked and vaccinated. And I caught it because I was around NUMEROUS PEOPLE who were NOT. But definitely ignore that. Also ignore that all of the vaccinated people I saw in the most contagious period did not catch it.
I am not answering anymore of your ridiculous questions. I told my story. You can twist my words however you like but it doesn't change the fact that if you're vaccinated and surrounded by people who are NOT and are also UNMASKED, it is still possible to catch it. This is why masks and vaccines are important. You don't agree. Oh well. Can't imagine why we're in this mess.
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Re: Monoclonal Antibody Treatment
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Posted by windyweather21
Posted by nel
Posted by PitterPatter11
Posted by itsbabytime
Maybe you are missing the point. Maybe the point is why is the only thing being pushed and mandated the Pfizer vaccine that isn’t working??? Why is only their vaccine authorised and now mandated for teens, next kids, and the boosters. Why is one company’s solution being mandated when it isn’t even working. As vaccinations go up, so do cases. Clearly this isn’t the answer so why aren’t we trying other promising solutions to this problem? Why are we mandating away with only one plan that isn’t working? Doesn’t that scare u? It scares me! This will never end unless our leader mandates exploration of other solutions - other treatments, mandates Pfizer to go back to the drawing board with a safer more effective vaccine or treatment!!!
Studies are being done on treatments for people with covid. I don’t know why you think nothing is being done in that realm. My friend who is an infectious disease scientist is literally working on a clinical trial looking at 3 different outpatient treatments.
Also - vaccines are working. Your risk of getting covid is much lower if you’ve been vaccinated. Areas with high vaccination rates have less cases and far fewer hospitalizations and deaths.
Exactly. And I am so SO sick of people saying vaccines aren't working. Yes, they are.
Anecdotal but I caught Covid because I was around unvaccinated, unmasked people (and I do know 100% that this is true. This is why masks, at the very least, do matter for anyone who thinks otherwise. I am fully vaccinated and was wearing a mask, and I was stuck in a bad situation. So I'm also sick of the "why do you care if you're protected" argument. Because it does still affect other people.) I then had nine people who were considered close contacts. ALL were fully vaccinated (some as far back as -- gasp -- January/February). NOT ONE caught Covid. NOT. ONE. That includes my spouse. My doctor told me it's because if you're vaccinated, it seems that while you might carry the same viral load, you are still less infectious.
Are the vaccines 100% effective? No. They never said they were. Was my case minor? Yes, it was. That was what was promised. Do I feel incredibly lucky? I absolutely do. I will also get a booster/third shot when I'm eligible like my parents already have.
I am not interested in an argument. I just needed to get this off my chest.
So you got sick vaccinated AND wearing a mask at all times around people?
You only know vaccinated people that have not had Covid, no unvaccinated?
This will be the only time I reply to you just to say -- I love that THIS is what you took from all that I said.
Yes. I was masked and vaccinated. And I caught it because I was around NUMEROUS PEOPLE who were NOT. But definitely ignore that. Also ignore that all of the vaccinated people I saw in the most contagious period did not catch it.
I am not answering anymore of your ridiculous questions. I told my story. You can twist my words however you like but it doesn't change the fact that if you're vaccinated and surrounded by people who are NOT and are also UNMASKED, it is still possible to catch it. This is why masks and vaccines are important. You don't agree. Oh well. Can't imagine why we're in this mess.
I don’t agree as it just makes no sense as it sounds like masks just don’t really work and maybe your vaccine is not as effective as other vaccinated people.
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Re: Monoclonal Antibody Treatment
Posted by windyweather21
Posted by nel
Posted by windyweather21
Posted by nel
Posted by PitterPatter11
Posted by itsbabytime
Maybe you are missing the point. Maybe the point is why is the only thing being pushed and mandated the Pfizer vaccine that isn’t working??? Why is only their vaccine authorised and now mandated for teens, next kids, and the boosters. Why is one company’s solution being mandated when it isn’t even working. As vaccinations go up, so do cases. Clearly this isn’t the answer so why aren’t we trying other promising solutions to this problem? Why are we mandating away with only one plan that isn’t working? Doesn’t that scare u? It scares me! This will never end unless our leader mandates exploration of other solutions - other treatments, mandates Pfizer to go back to the drawing board with a safer more effective vaccine or treatment!!!
Studies are being done on treatments for people with covid. I don’t know why you think nothing is being done in that realm. My friend who is an infectious disease scientist is literally working on a clinical trial looking at 3 different outpatient treatments.
Also - vaccines are working. Your risk of getting covid is much lower if you’ve been vaccinated. Areas with high vaccination rates have less cases and far fewer hospitalizations and deaths.
Exactly. And I am so SO sick of people saying vaccines aren't working. Yes, they are.
Anecdotal but I caught Covid because I was around unvaccinated, unmasked people (and I do know 100% that this is true. This is why masks, at the very least, do matter for anyone who thinks otherwise. I am fully vaccinated and was wearing a mask, and I was stuck in a bad situation. So I'm also sick of the "why do you care if you're protected" argument. Because it does still affect other people.) I then had nine people who were considered close contacts. ALL were fully vaccinated (some as far back as -- gasp -- January/February). NOT ONE caught Covid. NOT. ONE. That includes my spouse. My doctor told me it's because if you're vaccinated, it seems that while you might carry the same viral load, you are still less infectious.
Are the vaccines 100% effective? No. They never said they were. Was my case minor? Yes, it was. That was what was promised. Do I feel incredibly lucky? I absolutely do. I will also get a booster/third shot when I'm eligible like my parents already have.
I am not interested in an argument. I just needed to get this off my chest.
So you got sick vaccinated AND wearing a mask at all times around people?
You only know vaccinated people that have not had Covid, no unvaccinated?
This will be the only time I reply to you just to say -- I love that THIS is what you took from all that I said.
Yes. I was masked and vaccinated. And I caught it because I was around NUMEROUS PEOPLE who were NOT. But definitely ignore that. Also ignore that all of the vaccinated people I saw in the most contagious period did not catch it.
I am not answering anymore of your ridiculous questions. I told my story. You can twist my words however you like but it doesn't change the fact that if you're vaccinated and surrounded by people who are NOT and are also UNMASKED, it is still possible to catch it. This is why masks and vaccines are important. You don't agree. Oh well. Can't imagine why we're in this mess.
I don’t agree as it just makes no sense as it sounds like masks just don’t really work and maybe your vaccine is not as effective as other vaccinated people.
Wow. Not a question of agree or disagree. That's not at all how it works.
Argue all you want. Your opinion is uninformed and irrelevant. I'm done.
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Re: Monoclonal Antibody Treatment
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Posted by windyweather21
Posted by nel
Posted by windyweather21
Posted by nel
Posted by PitterPatter11
Posted by itsbabytime
Maybe you are missing the point. Maybe the point is why is the only thing being pushed and mandated the Pfizer vaccine that isn’t working??? Why is only their vaccine authorised and now mandated for teens, next kids, and the boosters. Why is one company’s solution being mandated when it isn’t even working. As vaccinations go up, so do cases. Clearly this isn’t the answer so why aren’t we trying other promising solutions to this problem? Why are we mandating away with only one plan that isn’t working? Doesn’t that scare u? It scares me! This will never end unless our leader mandates exploration of other solutions - other treatments, mandates Pfizer to go back to the drawing board with a safer more effective vaccine or treatment!!!
Studies are being done on treatments for people with covid. I don’t know why you think nothing is being done in that realm. My friend who is an infectious disease scientist is literally working on a clinical trial looking at 3 different outpatient treatments.
Also - vaccines are working. Your risk of getting covid is much lower if you’ve been vaccinated. Areas with high vaccination rates have less cases and far fewer hospitalizations and deaths.
Exactly. And I am so SO sick of people saying vaccines aren't working. Yes, they are.
Anecdotal but I caught Covid because I was around unvaccinated, unmasked people (and I do know 100% that this is true. This is why masks, at the very least, do matter for anyone who thinks otherwise. I am fully vaccinated and was wearing a mask, and I was stuck in a bad situation. So I'm also sick of the "why do you care if you're protected" argument. Because it does still affect other people.) I then had nine people who were considered close contacts. ALL were fully vaccinated (some as far back as -- gasp -- January/February). NOT ONE caught Covid. NOT. ONE. That includes my spouse. My doctor told me it's because if you're vaccinated, it seems that while you might carry the same viral load, you are still less infectious.
Are the vaccines 100% effective? No. They never said they were. Was my case minor? Yes, it was. That was what was promised. Do I feel incredibly lucky? I absolutely do. I will also get a booster/third shot when I'm eligible like my parents already have.
I am not interested in an argument. I just needed to get this off my chest.
So you got sick vaccinated AND wearing a mask at all times around people?
You only know vaccinated people that have not had Covid, no unvaccinated?
This will be the only time I reply to you just to say -- I love that THIS is what you took from all that I said.
Yes. I was masked and vaccinated. And I caught it because I was around NUMEROUS PEOPLE who were NOT. But definitely ignore that. Also ignore that all of the vaccinated people I saw in the most contagious period did not catch it.
I am not answering anymore of your ridiculous questions. I told my story. You can twist my words however you like but it doesn't change the fact that if you're vaccinated and surrounded by people who are NOT and are also UNMASKED, it is still possible to catch it. This is why masks and vaccines are important. You don't agree. Oh well. Can't imagine why we're in this mess.
I don’t agree as it just makes no sense as it sounds like masks just don’t really work and maybe your vaccine is not as effective as other vaccinated people.
Wow. Not a question of agree or disagree. That's not at all how it works.
Argue all you want. Your opinion is uninformed and irrelevant. I'm done.
Not arguing, stating the fact either that masks do not work or you were around an unvaccinated person who was already sick and you were unmasked.
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Re: Monoclonal Antibody Treatment
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Posted by PitterPatter11
Posted by itsbabytime
Maybe you are missing the point. Maybe the point is why is the only thing being pushed and mandated the Pfizer vaccine that isn’t working??? Why is only their vaccine authorised and now mandated for teens, next kids, and the boosters. Why is one company’s solution being mandated when it isn’t even working. As vaccinations go up, so do cases. Clearly this isn’t the answer so why aren’t we trying other promising solutions to this problem? Why are we mandating away with only one plan that isn’t working? Doesn’t that scare u? It scares me! This will never end unless our leader mandates exploration of other solutions - other treatments, mandates Pfizer to go back to the drawing board with a safer more effective vaccine or treatment!!!
Studies are being done on treatments for people with covid. I don’t know why you think nothing is being done in that realm. My friend who is an infectious disease scientist is literally working on a clinical trial looking at 3 different outpatient treatments.
Also - vaccines are working. Your risk of getting covid is much lower if you’ve been vaccinated. Areas with high vaccination rates have less cases and far fewer hospitalizations and deaths.
Exactly. And I am so SO sick of people saying vaccines aren't working. Yes, they are.
Anecdotal but I caught Covid because I was around unvaccinated, unmasked people (and I do know 100% that this is true. This is why masks, at the very least, do matter for anyone who thinks otherwise. I am fully vaccinated and was wearing a mask, and I was stuck in a bad situation. So I'm also sick of the "why do you care if you're protected" argument. Because it does still affect other people.) I then had nine people who were considered close contacts. ALL were fully vaccinated (some as far back as -- gasp -- January/February). NOT ONE caught Covid. NOT. ONE. That includes my spouse. My doctor told me it's because if you're vaccinated, it seems that while you might carry the same viral load, you are still less infectious.
Are the vaccines 100% effective? No. They never said they were. Was my case minor? Yes, it was. That was what was promised. Do I feel incredibly lucky? I absolutely do. I will also get a booster/third shot when I'm eligible like my parents already have.
I am not interested in an argument. I just needed to get this off my chest.
So you got sick vaccinated AND wearing a mask at all times around people?
You only know vaccinated people that have not had Covid, no unvaccinated?
This will be the only time I reply to you just to say -- I love that THIS is what you took from all that I said.
Yes. I was masked and vaccinated. And I caught it because I was around NUMEROUS PEOPLE who were NOT. But definitely ignore that. Also ignore that all of the vaccinated people I saw in the most contagious period did not catch it.
I am not answering anymore of your ridiculous questions. I told my story. You can twist my words however you like but it doesn't change the fact that if you're vaccinated and surrounded by people who are NOT and are also UNMASKED, it is still possible to catch it. This is why masks and vaccines are important. You don't agree. Oh well. Can't imagine why we're in this mess.
I don’t agree as it just makes no sense as it sounds like masks just don’t really work and maybe your vaccine is not as effective as other vaccinated people.
Wow. Not a question of agree or disagree. That's not at all how it works.
Argue all you want. Your opinion is uninformed and irrelevant. I'm done.
Nel, don’t even bother or waste another key stroke with windy/VB/Hazel. It isn’t worth it. Trust me. She’s probably searching for personal details now. Just don’t respond or engage.
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| Posted 9/11/21 8:07 PM |
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jellybean78
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Member since 8/06 13103 total posts
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Re: Monoclonal Antibody Treatment
Posted by nel
Posted by windyweather21
Posted by nel
Posted by PitterPatter11
Posted by itsbabytime
Maybe you are missing the point. Maybe the point is why is the only thing being pushed and mandated the Pfizer vaccine that isn’t working??? Why is only their vaccine authorised and now mandated for teens, next kids, and the boosters. Why is one company’s solution being mandated when it isn’t even working. As vaccinations go up, so do cases. Clearly this isn’t the answer so why aren’t we trying other promising solutions to this problem? Why are we mandating away with only one plan that isn’t working? Doesn’t that scare u? It scares me! This will never end unless our leader mandates exploration of other solutions - other treatments, mandates Pfizer to go back to the drawing board with a safer more effective vaccine or treatment!!!
Studies are being done on treatments for people with covid. I don’t know why you think nothing is being done in that realm. My friend who is an infectious disease scientist is literally working on a clinical trial looking at 3 different outpatient treatments.
Also - vaccines are working. Your risk of getting covid is much lower if you’ve been vaccinated. Areas with high vaccination rates have less cases and far fewer hospitalizations and deaths.
Exactly. And I am so SO sick of people saying vaccines aren't working. Yes, they are.
Anecdotal but I caught Covid because I was around unvaccinated, unmasked people (and I do know 100% that this is true. This is why masks, at the very least, do matter for anyone who thinks otherwise. I am fully vaccinated and was wearing a mask, and I was stuck in a bad situation. So I'm also sick of the "why do you care if you're protected" argument. Because it does still affect other people.) I then had nine people who were considered close contacts. ALL were fully vaccinated (some as far back as -- gasp -- January/February). NOT ONE caught Covid. NOT. ONE. That includes my spouse. My doctor told me it's because if you're vaccinated, it seems that while you might carry the same viral load, you are still less infectious.
Are the vaccines 100% effective? No. They never said they were. Was my case minor? Yes, it was. That was what was promised. Do I feel incredibly lucky? I absolutely do. I will also get a booster/third shot when I'm eligible like my parents already have.
I am not interested in an argument. I just needed to get this off my chest.
So you got sick vaccinated AND wearing a mask at all times around people?
You only know vaccinated people that have not had Covid, no unvaccinated?
This will be the only time I reply to you just to say -- I love that THIS is what you took from all that I said.
Yes. I was masked and vaccinated. And I caught it because I was around NUMEROUS PEOPLE who were NOT. But definitely ignore that. Also ignore that all of the vaccinated people I saw in the most contagious period did not catch it.
I mean this is rich  You are vaccinated and were masked and STILL got COVID but you are blaming the unmasked and unvaccinated??? Are you for real right now?? TF...make it make sense. 
Also a bunch of vaccinated have not gotten COVID and a bunch of vaxxed have so your argument is futile. These are FACTS..
This is the reason many people have pushed back on the vaccine...OPEN YOUR EYES
Message edited 9/11/2021 10:33:29 PM.
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| Posted 9/11/21 10:32 PM |
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nel
LIF Adult
Member since 5/06 1173 total posts
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Re: Monoclonal Antibody Treatment
Posted by jellybean78
Posted by nel
Posted by windyweather21
Posted by nel
Posted by PitterPatter11
Posted by itsbabytime
Maybe you are missing the point. Maybe the point is why is the only thing being pushed and mandated the Pfizer vaccine that isn’t working??? Why is only their vaccine authorised and now mandated for teens, next kids, and the boosters. Why is one company’s solution being mandated when it isn’t even working. As vaccinations go up, so do cases. Clearly this isn’t the answer so why aren’t we trying other promising solutions to this problem? Why are we mandating away with only one plan that isn’t working? Doesn’t that scare u? It scares me! This will never end unless our leader mandates exploration of other solutions - other treatments, mandates Pfizer to go back to the drawing board with a safer more effective vaccine or treatment!!!
Studies are being done on treatments for people with covid. I don’t know why you think nothing is being done in that realm. My friend who is an infectious disease scientist is literally working on a clinical trial looking at 3 different outpatient treatments.
Also - vaccines are working. Your risk of getting covid is much lower if you’ve been vaccinated. Areas with high vaccination rates have less cases and far fewer hospitalizations and deaths.
Exactly. And I am so SO sick of people saying vaccines aren't working. Yes, they are.
Anecdotal but I caught Covid because I was around unvaccinated, unmasked people (and I do know 100% that this is true. This is why masks, at the very least, do matter for anyone who thinks otherwise. I am fully vaccinated and was wearing a mask, and I was stuck in a bad situation. So I'm also sick of the "why do you care if you're protected" argument. Because it does still affect other people.) I then had nine people who were considered close contacts. ALL were fully vaccinated (some as far back as -- gasp -- January/February). NOT ONE caught Covid. NOT. ONE. That includes my spouse. My doctor told me it's because if you're vaccinated, it seems that while you might carry the same viral load, you are still less infectious.
Are the vaccines 100% effective? No. They never said they were. Was my case minor? Yes, it was. That was what was promised. Do I feel incredibly lucky? I absolutely do. I will also get a booster/third shot when I'm eligible like my parents already have.
I am not interested in an argument. I just needed to get this off my chest.
So you got sick vaccinated AND wearing a mask at all times around people?
You only know vaccinated people that have not had Covid, no unvaccinated?
This will be the only time I reply to you just to say -- I love that THIS is what you took from all that I said.
Yes. I was masked and vaccinated. And I caught it because I was around NUMEROUS PEOPLE who were NOT. But definitely ignore that. Also ignore that all of the vaccinated people I saw in the most contagious period did not catch it.
I mean this is rich You are vaccinated and were masked and STILL got COVID but you are blaming the unmasked and unvaccinated??? Are you for real right now?? TF...make it make sense.
Also a bunch of vaccinated have not gotten COVID and a bunch of vaxxed have so your argument is futile. These are FACTS..
This is the reason many people have pushed back on the vaccine...OPEN YOUR EYES
Another one not worth arguing with. I 100% know I was infected simply because I was with unmasked, unvaxed people. I did NOT infect the 9 fully vaxed people I then saw because I was less infectious. It would make sense if you, in fact, would open your eyes. But I'm not holding my breath. The vaccination was never a guarantee to not get sick. But thanks for the advice AND the tone. I forgot you're an expert. Done engaging here, too. Oh, and I'm feeling fine. Thanks for the concern. 
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| Posted 9/11/21 10:58 PM |
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nel
LIF Adult
Member since 5/06 1173 total posts
Name:
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Re: Monoclonal Antibody Treatment
Posted by mommy2devin
Posted by nel
Posted by windyweather21
Posted by nel
Posted by windyweather21
Posted by nel
Posted by PitterPatter11
Posted by itsbabytime
Maybe you are missing the point. Maybe the point is why is the only thing being pushed and mandated the Pfizer vaccine that isn’t working??? Why is only their vaccine authorised and now mandated for teens, next kids, and the boosters. Why is one company’s solution being mandated when it isn’t even working. As vaccinations go up, so do cases. Clearly this isn’t the answer so why aren’t we trying other promising solutions to this problem? Why are we mandating away with only one plan that isn’t working? Doesn’t that scare u? It scares me! This will never end unless our leader mandates exploration of other solutions - other treatments, mandates Pfizer to go back to the drawing board with a safer more effective vaccine or treatment!!!
Studies are being done on treatments for people with covid. I don’t know why you think nothing is being done in that realm. My friend who is an infectious disease scientist is literally working on a clinical trial looking at 3 different outpatient treatments.
Also - vaccines are working. Your risk of getting covid is much lower if you’ve been vaccinated. Areas with high vaccination rates have less cases and far fewer hospitalizations and deaths.
Exactly. And I am so SO sick of people saying vaccines aren't working. Yes, they are.
Anecdotal but I caught Covid because I was around unvaccinated, unmasked people (and I do know 100% that this is true. This is why masks, at the very least, do matter for anyone who thinks otherwise. I am fully vaccinated and was wearing a mask, and I was stuck in a bad situation. So I'm also sick of the "why do you care if you're protected" argument. Because it does still affect other people.) I then had nine people who were considered close contacts. ALL were fully vaccinated (some as far back as -- gasp -- January/February). NOT ONE caught Covid. NOT. ONE. That includes my spouse. My doctor told me it's because if you're vaccinated, it seems that while you might carry the same viral load, you are still less infectious.
Are the vaccines 100% effective? No. They never said they were. Was my case minor? Yes, it was. That was what was promised. Do I feel incredibly lucky? I absolutely do. I will also get a booster/third shot when I'm eligible like my parents already have.
I am not interested in an argument. I just needed to get this off my chest.
So you got sick vaccinated AND wearing a mask at all times around people?
You only know vaccinated people that have not had Covid, no unvaccinated?
This will be the only time I reply to you just to say -- I love that THIS is what you took from all that I said.
Yes. I was masked and vaccinated. And I caught it because I was around NUMEROUS PEOPLE who were NOT. But definitely ignore that. Also ignore that all of the vaccinated people I saw in the most contagious period did not catch it.
I am not answering anymore of your ridiculous questions. I told my story. You can twist my words however you like but it doesn't change the fact that if you're vaccinated and surrounded by people who are NOT and are also UNMASKED, it is still possible to catch it. This is why masks and vaccines are important. You don't agree. Oh well. Can't imagine why we're in this mess.
I don’t agree as it just makes no sense as it sounds like masks just don’t really work and maybe your vaccine is not as effective as other vaccinated people.
Wow. Not a question of agree or disagree. That's not at all how it works.
Argue all you want. Your opinion is uninformed and irrelevant. I'm done.
Nel, don’t even bother or waste another key stroke with windy/VB/Hazel. It isn’t worth it. Trust me. She’s probably searching for personal details now. Just don’t respond or engage.
Thank you.  You're right. I'm done with this thread now. I forget how 100% convinced people can be that they're right in their own echo chamber while saying the exact same thing to the people they disagree with. So much for trying to share a different experience. I'm out.
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| Posted 9/11/21 11:03 PM |
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jellybean78
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Member since 8/06 13103 total posts
Name:
Mommy
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Re: Monoclonal Antibody Treatment
Posted by nel
Posted by jellybean78
Posted by nel
Posted by windyweather21
Posted by nel
Posted by PitterPatter11
Posted by itsbabytime
Maybe you are missing the point. Maybe the point is why is the only thing being pushed and mandated the Pfizer vaccine that isn’t working??? Why is only their vaccine authorised and now mandated for teens, next kids, and the boosters. Why is one company’s solution being mandated when it isn’t even working. As vaccinations go up, so do cases. Clearly this isn’t the answer so why aren’t we trying other promising solutions to this problem? Why are we mandating away with only one plan that isn’t working? Doesn’t that scare u? It scares me! This will never end unless our leader mandates exploration of other solutions - other treatments, mandates Pfizer to go back to the drawing board with a safer more effective vaccine or treatment!!!
Studies are being done on treatments for people with covid. I don’t know why you think nothing is being done in that realm. My friend who is an infectious disease scientist is literally working on a clinical trial looking at 3 different outpatient treatments.
Also - vaccines are working. Your risk of getting covid is much lower if you’ve been vaccinated. Areas with high vaccination rates have less cases and far fewer hospitalizations and deaths.
Exactly. And I am so SO sick of people saying vaccines aren't working. Yes, they are.
Anecdotal but I caught Covid because I was around unvaccinated, unmasked people (and I do know 100% that this is true. This is why masks, at the very least, do matter for anyone who thinks otherwise. I am fully vaccinated and was wearing a mask, and I was stuck in a bad situation. So I'm also sick of the "why do you care if you're protected" argument. Because it does still affect other people.) I then had nine people who were considered close contacts. ALL were fully vaccinated (some as far back as -- gasp -- January/February). NOT ONE caught Covid. NOT. ONE. That includes my spouse. My doctor told me it's because if you're vaccinated, it seems that while you might carry the same viral load, you are still less infectious.
Are the vaccines 100% effective? No. They never said they were. Was my case minor? Yes, it was. That was what was promised. Do I feel incredibly lucky? I absolutely do. I will also get a booster/third shot when I'm eligible like my parents already have.
I am not interested in an argument. I just needed to get this off my chest.
So you got sick vaccinated AND wearing a mask at all times around people?
You only know vaccinated people that have not had Covid, no unvaccinated?
This will be the only time I reply to you just to say -- I love that THIS is what you took from all that I said.
Yes. I was masked and vaccinated. And I caught it because I was around NUMEROUS PEOPLE who were NOT. But definitely ignore that. Also ignore that all of the vaccinated people I saw in the most contagious period did not catch it.
I mean this is rich You are vaccinated and were masked and STILL got COVID but you are blaming the unmasked and unvaccinated??? Are you for real right now?? TF...make it make sense.
Also a bunch of vaccinated have not gotten COVID and a bunch of vaxxed have so your argument is futile. These are FACTS..
This is the reason many people have pushed back on the vaccine...OPEN YOUR EYES
Another one not worth arguing with. I 100% know I was infected simply because I was with unmasked, unvaxed people. I did NOT infect the 9 fully vaxed people I then saw because I was less infectious. It would make sense if you, in fact, would open your eyes. But I'm not holding my breath. The vaccination was never a guarantee to not get sick. But thanks for the advice AND the tone. I forgot you're an expert. Done engaging here, too. Oh, and I'm feeling fine. Thanks for the concern.
So basically you're saying that vaccines and masks don't prevent you from getting COVID? So what's the point??
If you were vaccinated and masked it shouldn't matter if someone who was COVID positive licked you..you should have been protected according to your vaccination and mask yet you weren't so therefore your vax and mask did NOTHING to prevent you from getting COVID. I mean if that's not ironic I don't know what is.
And sorry but YES absolutely the vaxx was rolled out with the expectation that it would decrease transmission of the virus and help end this pandemic and that has proven FALSE. Do you not see why people are skeptical?
Listen I'm glad you're fine I truly am, regardless of viewpoint I don't wish anyone ill health or death but I do wish people would use a little common sense and be less ignorant when it comes to this vaccine.
It's more important to me to find the truth then to be right...it seems like many people would just rather blind themselves to the truth and continue to justify blaming others so they can defend a vaccine that doesn't work for a pandemic that seems to never end no matter what we do.
Message edited 9/11/2021 11:45:01 PM.
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Re: Monoclonal Antibody Treatment
Posted by jellybean78
Posted by nel
Posted by jellybean78
Posted by nel
Posted by windyweather21
Posted by nel
Posted by PitterPatter11
Posted by itsbabytime
Maybe you are missing the point. Maybe the point is why is the only thing being pushed and mandated the Pfizer vaccine that isn’t working??? Why is only their vaccine authorised and now mandated for teens, next kids, and the boosters. Why is one company’s solution being mandated when it isn’t even working. As vaccinations go up, so do cases. Clearly this isn’t the answer so why aren’t we trying other promising solutions to this problem? Why are we mandating away with only one plan that isn’t working? Doesn’t that scare u? It scares me! This will never end unless our leader mandates exploration of other solutions - other treatments, mandates Pfizer to go back to the drawing board with a safer more effective vaccine or treatment!!!
Studies are being done on treatments for people with covid. I don’t know why you think nothing is being done in that realm. My friend who is an infectious disease scientist is literally working on a clinical trial looking at 3 different outpatient treatments.
Also - vaccines are working. Your risk of getting covid is much lower if you’ve been vaccinated. Areas with high vaccination rates have less cases and far fewer hospitalizations and deaths.
Exactly. And I am so SO sick of people saying vaccines aren't working. Yes, they are.
Anecdotal but I caught Covid because I was around unvaccinated, unmasked people (and I do know 100% that this is true. This is why masks, at the very least, do matter for anyone who thinks otherwise. I am fully vaccinated and was wearing a mask, and I was stuck in a bad situation. So I'm also sick of the "why do you care if you're protected" argument. Because it does still affect other people.) I then had nine people who were considered close contacts. ALL were fully vaccinated (some as far back as -- gasp -- January/February). NOT ONE caught Covid. NOT. ONE. That includes my spouse. My doctor told me it's because if you're vaccinated, it seems that while you might carry the same viral load, you are still less infectious.
Are the vaccines 100% effective? No. They never said they were. Was my case minor? Yes, it was. That was what was promised. Do I feel incredibly lucky? I absolutely do. I will also get a booster/third shot when I'm eligible like my parents already have.
I am not interested in an argument. I just needed to get this off my chest.
So you got sick vaccinated AND wearing a mask at all times around people?
You only know vaccinated people that have not had Covid, no unvaccinated?
This will be the only time I reply to you just to say -- I love that THIS is what you took from all that I said.
Yes. I was masked and vaccinated. And I caught it because I was around NUMEROUS PEOPLE who were NOT. But definitely ignore that. Also ignore that all of the vaccinated people I saw in the most contagious period did not catch it.
I mean this is rich You are vaccinated and were masked and STILL got COVID but you are blaming the unmasked and unvaccinated??? Are you for real right now?? TF...make it make sense.
Also a bunch of vaccinated have not gotten COVID and a bunch of vaxxed have so your argument is futile. These are FACTS..
This is the reason many people have pushed back on the vaccine...OPEN YOUR EYES
Another one not worth arguing with. I 100% know I was infected simply because I was with unmasked, unvaxed people. I did NOT infect the 9 fully vaxed people I then saw because I was less infectious. It would make sense if you, in fact, would open your eyes. But I'm not holding my breath. The vaccination was never a guarantee to not get sick. But thanks for the advice AND the tone. I forgot you're an expert. Done engaging here, too. Oh, and I'm feeling fine. Thanks for the concern.
So basically you're saying that vaccines and masks don't prevent you from getting COVID? So what's the point??
If you were vaccinated and masked it shouldn't matter if someone who was COVID positive licked you..you should have been protected according to your vaccination and mask yet you weren't so therefore your vax and mask did NOTHING to prevent you from getting COVID. I mean if that's not ironic I don't know what is.
And sorry but YES absolutely the vaxx was rolled out with the expectation that it would decrease transmission of the virus and help end this pandemic and that has proven FALSE. Do you not see why people are skeptical?
Listen I'm glad you're fine I truly am, regardless of viewpoint I don't wish anyone ill health or death but I do wish people would use a little common sense and be less ignorant when it comes to this vaccine.
It's more important to me to find the truth then to be right...it seems like many people would just rather blind themselves to the truth and continue to justify blaming others so they can defend a vaccine that doesn't work for a pandemic that seems to never end no matter what we do.
Her story makes no sense at all honestly. Thinking she has underlying issues she is not speaking of that lowers her immune system and just wants to blame the unvaccinated. People in the same house don’t always get sick at the same time so the argument that the vaccinated she was with didn’t get it doesn’t make a difference.
She came on her to blame the unvaccinated with no back up of her story.
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