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MTV cutting cast members
They cancelled Cory's baby special and Taylor out of Teen Mom now completely for her 8 year old comments.
Now Dee from the challenge was also no longer invited back to be on MTV because she made an ill joke about saying black lives mattered since she lost her virginity to a black guy.
I get these people are wrong! I am 100% for black lives matter and don't think the comments should be swept under the rug... but for one joke to get kicked off. Lately, she is thee best female competitor on that show.... this is so disappointing.
And I really wanted to see that baby special last night...
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It is all getting ridiculous. HBO has cut Gone with the Wind. Paramount cancelled Cops and Live PD is on hiatus. What are we allowed to watch anymore? Am I not allowed to see reruns of Archie Bunker because he was a racist? It is am sickening to me now.
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What were Dee’s comments that were so offensive? This is what she said...
“IDK why some of you think I’m anti-BLM. I’ve been saying that since the day I lost my virginity.”
I must be missing something, how can that be offensive?
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It is all getting ridiculous. HBO has cut Gone with the Wind. Paramount cancelled Cops and Live PD is on hiatus. What are we allowed to watch anymore? Am I not allowed to see reruns of Archie Bunker because he was a racist? It is am sickening to me now.
How often were you watching gone with the wind?
These are all shows/movies that contribute to a racist rhetoric. You should reflect on why this makes you so angry. These are positive changes.
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Re: MTV cutting cast members
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It is all getting ridiculous. HBO has cut Gone with the Wind. Paramount cancelled Cops and Live PD is on hiatus. What are we allowed to watch anymore? Am I not allowed to see reruns of Archie Bunker because he was a racist? It is am sickening to me now.
How often were you watching gone with the wind?
These are all shows/movies that contribute to a racist rhetoric. You should reflect on why this makes you so angry. These are positive changes.
I actually have never seen the entire movie but I do watch All in the Family all the time. This is history
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Posted by soontobemommyof2
What were Dee’s comments that were so offensive? This is what she said...
“IDK why some of you think I’m anti-BLM. I’ve been saying that since the day I lost my virginity.”
I must be missing something, how can that be offensive?
I thought it was obviously a joke, and wouldn't take it offensively. People were saying it's rude to discuss black lives matter like that, as a joke I guess. I have no idea. I think this is a big loss for MTV.
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How often were you watching gone with the wind?
These are all shows/movies that contribute to a racist rhetoric. You should reflect on why this makes you so angry. These are positive changes.
Should we burn every book we don't agree with either? I'm all for STOPING that rhetoric and not allowing new things to be said or made that are wrong -- however, I agree it is history, it is a slice of what was. I never agree with censoring or banning things hundreds of years later. That seems wrong. We should be looking forward not looking in the past. HBO MAX Getting rid of Gone With the Wind isn't really doing much, HBO Max should hire a bunch of black writers and black directors and black actors to make a bunch of content for their streaming service. That's progress...
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How often were you watching gone with the wind?
These are all shows/movies that contribute to a racist rhetoric. You should reflect on why this makes you so angry. These are positive changes.
Should we burn every book we don't agree with either? I'm all for STOPING that rhetoric and not allowing new things to be said or made that are wrong -- however, I agree it is history, it is a slice of what was. I never agree with censoring or banning things hundreds of years later. That seems wrong. We should be looking forward not looking in the past. HBO MAX Getting rid of Gone With the Wind isn't really doing much, HBO Max should hire a bunch of black writers and black directors and black actors to make a bunch of content for their streaming service. That's progress...
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Re: MTV cutting cast members
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How often were you watching gone with the wind?
These are all shows/movies that contribute to a racist rhetoric. You should reflect on why this makes you so angry. These are positive changes.
Should we burn every book we don't agree with either? I'm all for STOPING that rhetoric and not allowing new things to be said or made that are wrong -- however, I agree it is history, it is a slice of what was. I never agree with censoring or banning things hundreds of years later. That seems wrong. We should be looking forward not looking in the past. HBO MAX Getting rid of Gone With the Wind isn't really doing much, HBO Max should hire a bunch of black writers and black directors and black actors to make a bunch of content for their streaming service. That's progress...
Lol is this a joke? Gone with the wind is a theatrical performance and is fiction. It’s not a history text book. It’s not a commentary on how the racism was wrong, it glorifies the racism.
Yes, major content providers should censor racist content because it serves no purpose other than to perpetuate the false narrative that has existed for 400+ years.
No one is legally banning gone with the wind from existing, hbo is choosing to portray a better and more accurate series of content that doesn’t contribute to persistent racism. If you want to go to the library and watch gone with the wind as an example of part of the problem then go ahead. No one is burning books here. HBO is attempting to be more responsible.
Agree there should be more diverse hiring but if you think that is the only thing that needs to change, it’s time for self reflection. Yes this is a small change but every baby step adds up. We’ve essentially taken very few steps forward towards equality since 1865. We need to start somewhere. It’s time for all of us (me too) to evaluate how we can contribute and where we’ve dropped The ball in our own lives and communities.
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Re: MTV cutting cast members
Vanderpump rules fired a bunch of cast members too.
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Wait Taylor’s comments from Teen mom was from when she was 8?? Idk what the comments were but I do know this was addressed in Teen Mom. She apologized and discussed this with Chey. I’m assuming Corey is black or mixed race, her baby father?
I feel like firing someone for a comment they made when they were 8 and after it was addressed on a show on their network, looks more like a witch hunt and not progress!
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Wait Taylor’s comments from Teen mom was from when she was 8?? Idk what the comments were but I do know this was addressed in Teen Mom. She apologized and discussed this with Chey. I’m assuming Corey is black or mixed race, her baby father?
I feel like firing someone for a comment they made when they were 8 and after it was addressed on a show on their network, looks more like a witch hunt and not progress!
Selfridge, who has also appeared on MTV's Are You The One and Ex on the Beach, faced backlash anew after problematic tweets from 2012 resurfaced online earlier this week. Selfridge previously apologized for the tweets during season 8 of Teen Mom OG in a conversation with Wharton's ex, Cheyenne Floyd.
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Wait Taylor’s comments from Teen mom was from when she was 8?? Idk what the comments were but I do know this was addressed in Teen Mom. She apologized and discussed this with Chey. I’m assuming Corey is black or mixed race, her baby father?
I feel like firing someone for a comment they made when they were 8 and after it was addressed on a show on their network, looks more like a witch hunt and not progress!
Selfridge, who has also appeared on MTV's Are You The One and Ex on the Beach, faced backlash anew after problematic tweets from 2012 resurfaced online earlier this week. Selfridge previously apologized for the tweets during season 8 of Teen Mom OG in a conversation with Wharton's ex, Cheyenne Floyd.
This exactly what I said and my point. This was already addressed on their network and now they want to fire and cancel the show?
I was referencing the original post and read it as she was 8 but I guess I read it wrong and it was 8yrs ago lol.
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Wait Taylor’s comments from Teen mom was from when she was 8?? Idk what the comments were but I do know this was addressed in Teen Mom. She apologized and discussed this with Chey. I’m assuming Corey is black or mixed race, her baby father?
I feel like firing someone for a comment they made when they were 8 and after it was addressed on a show on their network, looks more like a witch hunt and not progress!
Selfridge, who has also appeared on MTV's Are You The One and Ex on the Beach, faced backlash anew after problematic tweets from 2012 resurfaced online earlier this week. Selfridge previously apologized for the tweets during season 8 of Teen Mom OG in a conversation with Wharton's ex, Cheyenne Floyd.
This exactly what I said and my point. This was already addressed on their network and now they want to fire and cancel the show?
I was referencing the original post and read it as she was 8 but I guess I read it wrong and it was 8yrs ago lol.
Yes just didn't want you to think she was 8 lol. I find it all ridiculous too.
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Wait Taylor’s comments from Teen mom was from when she was 8?? Idk what the comments were but I do know this was addressed in Teen Mom. She apologized and discussed this with Chey. I’m assuming Corey is black or mixed race, her baby father?
I feel like firing someone for a comment they made when they were 8 and after it was addressed on a show on their network, looks more like a witch hunt and not progress!
Selfridge, who has also appeared on MTV's Are You The One and Ex on the Beach, faced backlash anew after problematic tweets from 2012 resurfaced online earlier this week. Selfridge previously apologized for the tweets during season 8 of Teen Mom OG in a conversation with Wharton's ex, Cheyenne Floyd.
This exactly what I said and my point. This was already addressed on their network and now they want to fire and cancel the show?
I was referencing the original post and read it as she was 8 but I guess I read it wrong and it was 8yrs ago lol.
Yes just didn't want you to think she was 8 lol. I find it all ridiculous too.
Thanks for the clarity.. I was like she was tweeting and on social media at 8yrs old, several years ago. I was so confused
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Posted by valentinesbaby
It is all getting ridiculous. HBO has cut Gone with the Wind. Paramount cancelled Cops and Live PD is on hiatus. What are we allowed to watch anymore? Am I not allowed to see reruns of Archie Bunker because he was a racist? It is am sickening to me now.
LOL. You are obviously reading clickbait stories about GWTW. Read again.
And in case you need help, seeing as you are illiterate:
HBO Max plans to return the film “with a discussion of its historical context and a denouncement of those very depictions”. It will, however, be presented as originally created, the network said, “because to do otherwise would be the same as claiming these prejudices never existed.”
And go ahead and challenge me on GWTW. I’ve seen it over 100 times. The only thing that bothers me is that Hattie McDaniel was not “acceptable” to the Oscar ceremony— and she won.
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It is all getting ridiculous. HBO has cut Gone with the Wind. Paramount cancelled Cops and Live PD is on hiatus. What are we allowed to watch anymore? Am I not allowed to see reruns of Archie Bunker because he was a racist? It is am sickening to me now.
How often were you watching gone with the wind?
These are all shows/movies that contribute to a racist rhetoric. You should reflect on why this makes you so angry. These are positive changes.
GWTW did not contribute to racist rhetoric. Watch the film 100+ times and you will understand.
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Posted by valentinesbaby Live PD is on hiatus.
It's actually been cancelled:
A&E has pulled the plug on its popular “Live P.D.” police show amid the ongoing George Floyd protests, two days after Texas media reported that the show had destroyed footage of a man being arrested and dying in custody in March 2019.
Link to article
I thought I read in another article that they were not cooperating in the investigation. By not handing over the tapes. No idea if that is incorrect since this article says differently.
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Lol is this a joke? Gone with the wind is a theatrical performance and is fiction. It’s not a history text book. It’s not a commentary on how the racism was wrong, it glorifies the racism.
No it wasn't a joke. I didn't mean history as in a history textbook.... I meant cultural history as in a movie that released when it did... Just like the book huckleberry finn... which people wanted to be censored. Then meanwhile any movie that has a bad comment about Jewish people, or the book mein kampf should be out of existence too for continuing antisemitism.
You can't ERASE the past. It's impossible. You can only correct from it by moving FORWARD.
Which is why they should have continued to show they Cory and Taylor special --- showed how she is choosing to raise a black baby and a black stepdaughter in this climate. This would have been a valuable person to follow more than anyone else. To see how she's grown and what she is doing to make right and live in a biracial family. That would be progress. Not just cancelling it.
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MTV cutting cast members
Dee's comments were basically posting that it didn't matter that George Floyd died because people die every day. Since this was said right in the middle of all this turmoil I absolutely agree with firing her this season.
As far as the Teen Mom, if it was said 8 years ago that is just ridiculous. You can't hold people responsible for every single thing they say years before. People grow and people change.
I was watching a show the other night and it was asked what is a white person suppose to do if they say or do something wrong. The answer was apologize and learn to do better. If that is the answer then stop digging up things from the past.
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It is all getting ridiculous. HBO has cut Gone with the Wind. Paramount cancelled Cops and Live PD is on hiatus. What are we allowed to watch anymore? Am I not allowed to see reruns of Archie Bunker because he was a racist? It is am sickening to me now.
LOL. You are obviously reading clickbait stories about GWTW. Read again.
And in case you need help, seeing as you are illiterate:
HBO Max plans to return the film “with a discussion of its historical context and a denouncement of those very depictions”. It will, however, be presented as originally created, the network said, “because to do otherwise would be the same as claiming these prejudices never existed.”
And go ahead and challenge me on GWTW. I’ve seen it over 100 times. The only thing that bothers me is that Hattie McDaniel was not “acceptable” to the Oscar ceremony— and she won.
Good, glad they have decided to keep it the same.
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Posted by valentinesbaby Live PD is on hiatus.
It's actually been cancelled:
A&E has pulled the plug on its popular “Live P.D.” police show amid the ongoing George Floyd protests, two days after Texas media reported that the show had destroyed footage of a man being arrested and dying in custody in March 2019.
Link to article
I thought I read in another article that they were not cooperating in the investigation. By not handing over the tapes. No idea if that is incorrect since this article says differently.
Yes after I posted this it was announced the station pulled it. I hope it gets picked up by another one though.
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As far as the Teen Mom, if it was said 8 years ago that is just ridiculous. You can't hold people responsible for every single thing they say years before. People grow and people change.
I was watching a show the other night and it was asked what is a white person suppose to do if they say or do something wrong. The answer was apologize and learn to do better. If that is the answer then stop digging up things from the past.
Unfortunately, the opposite seems to be happening. Hartley sawyer was fired from a CW show he joined in 2016 for racist and mysoginistic comments he made in 2012, way before the show was on tv. He apologized, shown he's a changed man, developed deep relationships with women of color and someone brought up his tweets and just like that he was gone. while i know many will disagree with me, there is such a thing as trying to be too PC and over-correcting.
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Well look at all the backlash that happened to Roseanne. Tailor's tweets were worse than Roseanne and all of a sudden MTV cares about something said 8 years ago. People need to realize what they say on social media will come back to haunt them and be prepared to deal with the backlash. No one wants to hear excuses about things said in poor test and no one cares how long ago it was...
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Well look at all the backlash that happened to Roseanne. Tailor's tweets were worse than Roseanne and all of a sudden MTV cares about something said 8 years ago. People need to realize what they say on social media will come back to haunt them and be prepared to deal with the backlash. No one wants to hear excuses about things said in poor test and no one cares how long ago it was...
The reason I think the Taylor situation is BS is because the network already addressed her tweets a year ago on one of their shows. Why not fire her then or take her off the show? She discussed it with the black mother of her step daughter. She is now raising a bi racial child with a biracial man. Why not showcase this in the special? Why not highlight some progress?
Similar to what another poster said, white people are asking how to change and this is an example of someone changing or opening their eyes with growth. It just seems hypocritical to me when it comes to this particular story. It makes these firing and cancellations look like a witch hunt and not trying to make actual change for the BLM initiative. It’s just a way for the networks to cover their asses and say.. “look look, we care”
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