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alli3131
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Re: Nassau County Wage Freeze........
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We all know that union contracts are very fluid in nature and subject to many external factors.
Like what? I'm not being snarky... just asking you to elaborate if you don't mind.
I don't think I would use the word fluid but you know as well as I do that contracts are made to be broken. Just because its in a contract doesn't mean it will actually happen.
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Re: Nassau County Wage Freeze........
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Posted by Bearcat
Posted by Jugglemom
We all know that union contracts are very fluid in nature and subject to many external factors.
Like what? I'm not being snarky... just asking you to elaborate if you don't mind.
I don't think I would use the word fluid but you know as well as I do that contracts are made to be broken. Just because its in a contract doesn't mean it will actually happen.
Of course, but aren't union contracts traditionally more sacred?
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ShhhTTCin11
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Re: Nassau County Wage Freeze........
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NY has been draining tax payers to give to welfare programs. Now, there is just nothing left. Many people who receive free housing, etc. then go and use the income they do earn (off the books) to buy themselves luxury items like designer clothes and iPhones. Nothing is changing because no one wants to be politically incorrect.
Can you share where you got this information? I'm very curious, I really wonder why Nassau in particular seems so inept with its finances.
I don't know about the welfare programs, but Like I said in an earlier post.... Nassau County hasn't increased taxes in like 10 years. Suozzi planned on an increase, but mangano won. Logically, how can you keep the same revenue stream for 10 years and still keep up with increasing expenses? Especially where you have contracted salary arrangements. Vendor prices have obviously increased over the years.
Mangano is too worried about getting re-elected to do what needs to be done - the unpopular choice - taxes have to go up. If everyone's taxes increased a couple hundred bucks a year, Nassau County could dig itself out of the hole it's currently in.
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Re: Nassau County Wage Freeze........
Posted by ShhhTTCin11
Posted by MrsProfessor
Posted by Saphire01
NY has been draining tax payers to give to welfare programs. Now, there is just nothing left. Many people who receive free housing, etc. then go and use the income they do earn (off the books) to buy themselves luxury items like designer clothes and iPhones. Nothing is changing because no one wants to be politically incorrect.
Can you share where you got this information? I'm very curious, I really wonder why Nassau in particular seems so inept with its finances.
I don't know about the welfare programs, but Like I said in an earlier post.... Nassau County hasn't increased taxes in like 10 years. Suozzi planned on an increase, but mangano won. Logically, how can you keep the same revenue stream for 10 years and still keep up with increasing expenses? Especially where you have contracted salary arrangements. Vendor prices have obviously increased over the years.
Mangano is too worried about getting re-elected to do what needs to be done - the unpopular choice - taxes have to go up. If everyone's taxes increased a couple hundred bucks a year, Nassau County could dig itself out of the hole it's currently in.
This is 100 % TRUE !!!!!!! If any Nassau resident would look at their tax bill they would see that the Police Dept is only a minor portion of their bill... We're talking 30.00 if even that !!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Re: Nassau County Wage Freeze........
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Posted by alli3131
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Posted by Jugglemom
We all know that union contracts are very fluid in nature and subject to many external factors.
Like what? I'm not being snarky... just asking you to elaborate if you don't mind.
I don't think I would use the word fluid but you know as well as I do that contracts are made to be broken. Just because its in a contract doesn't mean it will actually happen.
Of course, but aren't union contracts traditionally more sacred?
Perhaps fluid wasn't the appropriate word but it seems to me that union contracts are always at the center of some dispute and they are influenced by political factors. I think what happens is that during negotiations a lot is given to union because of threats of strikes etc. and in the end the state/county/ etc. can't produce. I think sometimes the contracts are out of step with what actually can be done.
I've seen union contracts broken and renegotiated so many times (not in NY but in other parts of the US). Just like I've seen employment contracts broken.
When I worked in biglaw we had steps too (granted not contractually based) but you know if you kept your head down and did a good job you would go to the next level come September but I never made decisions based on my future income. And while it was pretty much set in stone, guess what, the economy tanked, and they could no longer pay those "steps".
Even with a contract situations can change.
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Re: Nassau County Wage Freeze........
Posted by Jugglemom
Posted by Bearcat
Posted by alli3131
Posted by Bearcat
Posted by Jugglemom
We all know that union contracts are very fluid in nature and subject to many external factors.
Like what? I'm not being snarky... just asking you to elaborate if you don't mind.
I don't think I would use the word fluid but you know as well as I do that contracts are made to be broken. Just because its in a contract doesn't mean it will actually happen.
Of course, but aren't union contracts traditionally more sacred?
Perhaps fluid wasn't the appropriate word but it seems to me that union contracts are always at the center of some dispute and they are influenced by political factors. I think what happens is that during negotiations a lot is given to union because of threats of strikes etc. and in the end the state/county/ etc. can't produce. I think sometimes the contracts are out of step with what actually can be done.
I've seen union contracts broken and renegotiated so many times (not in NY but in other parts of the US). Just like I've seen employment contracts broken.
When I worked in biglaw we had steps too (granted not contractually based) but you know if you kept your head down and did a good job you would go to the next level come September but I never made decisions based on my future income. And while it was pretty much set in stone, guess what, the economy tanked, and they could no longer pay those "steps".
Even with a contract situations can change.
I understand what you're saying. And I came out of law school right when the biglaw "steps" started to fall apart.  I think union contracts are at the center of dispute primarily during negotiation phases - or in the months leading up to when the contract is set to expire. Neither of which was the case here. But I get what you're saying, and setting aside whether i agree or not, thanks for responding to my question.
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Re: Nassau County Wage Freeze........
I am a frozen county worker here. All county workers are frozen it sucks big time to the poster I am sorry in the same boat with my family I have not even purchased a house yet because I cant take on the expense where I am frozen.
Why do we keep talking about $34,000 as a staring salary. There are many more county employees that are stuck at worse then that. That would love to making $34,000. Not every county employee is a cop.
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Re: Nassau County Wage Freeze........
Posted by Bearcat
Posted by Jugglemom
Posted by Bearcat
Posted by alli3131
Posted by Bearcat
Posted by Jugglemom
We all know that union contracts are very fluid in nature and subject to many external factors.
Like what? I'm not being snarky... just asking you to elaborate if you don't mind.
I don't think I would use the word fluid but you know as well as I do that contracts are made to be broken. Just because its in a contract doesn't mean it will actually happen.
Of course, but aren't union contracts traditionally more sacred?
Perhaps fluid wasn't the appropriate word but it seems to me that union contracts are always at the center of some dispute and they are influenced by political factors. I think what happens is that during negotiations a lot is given to union because of threats of strikes etc. and in the end the state/county/ etc. can't produce. I think sometimes the contracts are out of step with what actually can be done.
I've seen union contracts broken and renegotiated so many times (not in NY but in other parts of the US). Just like I've seen employment contracts broken.
When I worked in biglaw we had steps too (granted not contractually based) but you know if you kept your head down and did a good job you would go to the next level come September but I never made decisions based on my future income. And while it was pretty much set in stone, guess what, the economy tanked, and they could no longer pay those "steps".
Even with a contract situations can change.
I understand what you're saying. And I came out of law school right when the biglaw "steps" started to fall apart. I think union contracts are at the center of dispute primarily during negotiation phases - or in the months leading up to when the contract is set to expire. Neither of which was the case here. But I get what you're saying, and setting aside whether i agree or not, thanks for responding to my question.
Also, police can NEVER EVER strike... So that is never a threat from them, because, I believe, it's illegal. At least that's the case in NYC.
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alli3131
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Re: Nassau County Wage Freeze........
Posted by Bearcat
Posted by alli3131
Posted by Bearcat
Posted by Jugglemom
We all know that union contracts are very fluid in nature and subject to many external factors.
Like what? I'm not being snarky... just asking you to elaborate if you don't mind.
I don't think I would use the word fluid but you know as well as I do that contracts are made to be broken. Just because its in a contract doesn't mean it will actually happen.
Of course, but aren't union contracts traditionally more sacred?
Nope not at all. I actually think they are broken all the time.
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Bearcat
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Re: Nassau County Wage Freeze........
Posted by alli3131
Posted by Bearcat
Posted by alli3131
Posted by Bearcat
Posted by Jugglemom
We all know that union contracts are very fluid in nature and subject to many external factors.
Like what? I'm not being snarky... just asking you to elaborate if you don't mind.
I don't think I would use the word fluid but you know as well as I do that contracts are made to be broken. Just because its in a contract doesn't mean it will actually happen.
Of course, but aren't union contracts traditionally more sacred?
Nope not at all. I actually think they are broken all the time.
Really? Wow, I never knew that...
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cowgirlkate
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Re: Nassau County Wage Freeze........
County Ambulance drivers are frozen at 25,000. They have a hard time filling the overtime slots because they can make more money driving ambulances privately than their peanuts an hour overtime rate with the county. It is just sick.
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twicethefun
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Re: Nassau County Wage Freeze........
Posted by alli3131
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Posted by Summergirl
Yes, it is affecting my family , too. It's been a few very tough years. Thankfully though, my Dh didn't just start the job.
Many prayers for you and your family.Your STBH sounds like he just started and my heart goes out to those workers especially. I cannot even imagine!
What some people don't realize is that many people affected by this freeze are working in jobs where they risk their lives daily keeping Nassau safe and dealing with the lowest of society. They accepted the jobs starting at a poverty level salary, because they expected to be making a liveable and better salary in a few years. People aren't complaining for no reason. These salaries were promised to them in their union contract that Mangano ILLEGALLY broke!
The kick in the teeth is that while Mangano is ILLEGALLY breaking these union contracts to freeze people(going into 4 years now) , he somehow finds $800,000 to give his non union buddies raises. THEN,when NIFA objects , he uses the loophole of giving these people promotions so that these buddies will still get these $800,000 in raises. That part while,so many are struggling is disgusting!
Out of curiosity, what is the poverty level starting salary.
Starting salary is $34K and poverty for 1 person is $11K.
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Re: Nassau County Wage Freeze........
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 ugh to a few of the comments ... I understand completely about people struggling to make ends meet , etc , considering I'm sure a few of you know my story and just a few short years ago I was a single mother who left an abusive marriage and needed all the help I could get to keep a roof over my children's heads!
I am NOT complaining about having to hold off on getting married , what I am complaining about is the fact that my FH , who originally worked for the NYPD in Bushwick and was on the fast track to become a Sergaent or more ( to make more money), left to join the NCPD over 7 years ago being promised CONTRACTUALLY a certain pay ( alot more than the NYPD) . Pay that we planned our future on, including buying our home , etc... NIFA and Mangano have ILLEGALLY broken that contract and now we have to suffer. Some of my FH's collegues are loosing their homes , cars etc because of this !!!!! And these are men and women who go out day after day and night after night to protect Nassau County residents. YES property taxes are high in Nassau, and on Long Island period, HOWEVER, not only does the NCPD have the fastest response time out there along with their own AMT's etc.. BUT you pay for what you get !
Bottom line is , if this contract can just be arbitrarily broken at whim , what's next !? What if your mortage company sent you a letter saying oh by the way , we don't care what contract you signed with us we're raising your interest rate to 20% because we are having financial difficulties and need the money !
I think most NYPD might take offense to this....you pay for what you get. I know Nassau County and NYC cops and I can tell you that NYC does not pay for what they get. NYC cops work hard.
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Re: Nassau County Wage Freeze........
nevermind.
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Re: Nassau County Wage Freeze........
Posted by Bearcat
Posted by twicethefun
Posted by LIVINMYDREAM
ugh to a few of the comments ... I understand completely about people struggling to make ends meet , etc , considering I'm sure a few of you know my story and just a few short years ago I was a single mother who left an abusive marriage and needed all the help I could get to keep a roof over my children's heads!
I am NOT complaining about having to hold off on getting married , what I am complaining about is the fact that my FH , who originally worked for the NYPD in Bushwick and was on the fast track to become a Sergaent or more ( to make more money), left to join the NCPD over 7 years ago being promised CONTRACTUALLY a certain pay ( alot more than the NYPD) . Pay that we planned our future on, including buying our home , etc... NIFA and Mangano have ILLEGALLY broken that contract and now we have to suffer. Some of my FH's collegues are loosing their homes , cars etc because of this !!!!! And these are men and women who go out day after day and night after night to protect Nassau County residents. YES property taxes are high in Nassau, and on Long Island period, HOWEVER, not only does the NCPD have the fastest response time out there along with their own AMT's etc.. BUT you pay for what you get !
Bottom line is , if this contract can just be arbitrarily broken at whim , what's next !? What if your mortage company sent you a letter saying oh by the way , we don't care what contract you signed with us we're raising your interest rate to 20% because we are having financial difficulties and need the money !
I think most NYPD might take offense to this....you pay for what you get. I know Nassau County and NYC cops and I can tell you that NYC does not pay for what they get. NYC cops work hard.
I think most NCPD would take offense to what YOU said... you're implying Nassau cops don't work hard.
I dont think this is what she meant... just that the amount that the city pays compared to the amount of work/stress they have to deal with doesn't equal out by far.
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Re: Nassau County Wage Freeze........
Posted by Bearcat
Posted by twicethefun
Posted by LIVINMYDREAM
ugh to a few of the comments ... I understand completely about people struggling to make ends meet , etc , considering I'm sure a few of you know my story and just a few short years ago I was a single mother who left an abusive marriage and needed all the help I could get to keep a roof over my children's heads!
I am NOT complaining about having to hold off on getting married , what I am complaining about is the fact that my FH , who originally worked for the NYPD in Bushwick and was on the fast track to become a Sergaent or more ( to make more money), left to join the NCPD over 7 years ago being promised CONTRACTUALLY a certain pay ( alot more than the NYPD) . Pay that we planned our future on, including buying our home , etc... NIFA and Mangano have ILLEGALLY broken that contract and now we have to suffer. Some of my FH's collegues are loosing their homes , cars etc because of this !!!!! And these are men and women who go out day after day and night after night to protect Nassau County residents. YES property taxes are high in Nassau, and on Long Island period, HOWEVER, not only does the NCPD have the fastest response time out there along with their own AMT's etc.. BUT you pay for what you get !
Bottom line is , if this contract can just be arbitrarily broken at whim , what's next !? What if your mortage company sent you a letter saying oh by the way , we don't care what contract you signed with us we're raising your interest rate to 20% because we are having financial difficulties and need the money !
I think most NYPD might take offense to this....you pay for what you get. I know Nassau County and NYC cops and I can tell you that NYC does not pay for what they get. NYC cops work hard.
I think most NCPD would take offense to what YOU said... you're implying Nassau cops don't work hard.
Absolutely not. I said NYC does not pay for what they get. Nassau county makes double what NYC makes in some cases. I did not state anything about what Nassau County cops do or don't do. SHe is the one who said you get what you pay for and I disagree NYPD is just as good as NCPD
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Re: Nassau County Wage Freeze........
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Posted by Bearcat
Posted by twicethefun
Posted by LIVINMYDREAM
ugh to a few of the comments ... I understand completely about people struggling to make ends meet , etc , considering I'm sure a few of you know my story and just a few short years ago I was a single mother who left an abusive marriage and needed all the help I could get to keep a roof over my children's heads!
I am NOT complaining about having to hold off on getting married , what I am complaining about is the fact that my FH , who originally worked for the NYPD in Bushwick and was on the fast track to become a Sergaent or more ( to make more money), left to join the NCPD over 7 years ago being promised CONTRACTUALLY a certain pay ( alot more than the NYPD) . Pay that we planned our future on, including buying our home , etc... NIFA and Mangano have ILLEGALLY broken that contract and now we have to suffer. Some of my FH's collegues are loosing their homes , cars etc because of this !!!!! And these are men and women who go out day after day and night after night to protect Nassau County residents. YES property taxes are high in Nassau, and on Long Island period, HOWEVER, not only does the NCPD have the fastest response time out there along with their own AMT's etc.. BUT you pay for what you get !
Bottom line is , if this contract can just be arbitrarily broken at whim , what's next !? What if your mortage company sent you a letter saying oh by the way , we don't care what contract you signed with us we're raising your interest rate to 20% because we are having financial difficulties and need the money !
I think most NYPD might take offense to this....you pay for what you get. I know Nassau County and NYC cops and I can tell you that NYC does not pay for what they get. NYC cops work hard.
I think most NCPD would take offense to what YOU said... you're implying Nassau cops don't work hard.
Absolutely not. I said NYC does not pay for what they get. Nassau county makes double what NYC makes in some cases. I did not state anything about what Nassau County cops do or don't do. SHe is the one who said you get what you pay for and I disagree NYPD is just as good as NCPD
I edited my statement because I read what you wrote VERY quickly and my response was not fair - I was wrong. 
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Re: Nassau County Wage Freeze........
City has all two man cars. Nassau has very few. They pay the same salary per car.
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The city is not currently in a wage freeze though. They start their new cops SUPER low, but the same theory of reaching top salary after x amount of years. Luckily the city PBA is huge and I doubt the city would freeze cops w/in their steps. Nobody would take the job at all if they thought this could happen. And I'm sure plenty would quit immediately if they thought they were going to be stuck at starting pay.
My DH works for the city and hasn't seen a RAISE in years, he did however just reach top pay in his position a few months ago! We couldn't wait! I feel for all the Nassau cops who are stuck in their salary steps. Especially the ones that left the city to take the Nassau job. There is a lot of opportunity in the city to move up and make better money.
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City has all two man cars. Nassau has very few. They pay the same salary per car.
There are PLENTY of city cops who don't even have cars...no transit cops have cars...city cops have all different types of patrol. Not sure what you were getting at with this comparison.
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Re: Nassau County Wage Freeze........
Posted by Bearcat
Posted by twicethefun
Posted by Bearcat
Posted by twicethefun
Posted by LIVINMYDREAM
ugh to a few of the comments ... I understand completely about people struggling to make ends meet , etc , considering I'm sure a few of you know my story and just a few short years ago I was a single mother who left an abusive marriage and needed all the help I could get to keep a roof over my children's heads!
I am NOT complaining about having to hold off on getting married , what I am complaining about is the fact that my FH , who originally worked for the NYPD in Bushwick and was on the fast track to become a Sergaent or more ( to make more money), left to join the NCPD over 7 years ago being promised CONTRACTUALLY a certain pay ( alot more than the NYPD) . Pay that we planned our future on, including buying our home , etc... NIFA and Mangano have ILLEGALLY broken that contract and now we have to suffer. Some of my FH's collegues are loosing their homes , cars etc because of this !!!!! And these are men and women who go out day after day and night after night to protect Nassau County residents. YES property taxes are high in Nassau, and on Long Island period, HOWEVER, not only does the NCPD have the fastest response time out there along with their own AMT's etc.. BUT you pay for what you get !
Bottom line is , if this contract can just be arbitrarily broken at whim , what's next !? What if your mortage company sent you a letter saying oh by the way , we don't care what contract you signed with us we're raising your interest rate to 20% because we are having financial difficulties and need the money !
I think most NYPD might take offense to this....you pay for what you get. I know Nassau County and NYC cops and I can tell you that NYC does not pay for what they get. NYC cops work hard.
I think most NCPD would take offense to what YOU said... you're implying Nassau cops don't work hard.
Absolutely not. I said NYC does not pay for what they get. Nassau county makes double what NYC makes in some cases. I did not state anything about what Nassau County cops do or don't do. SHe is the one who said you get what you pay for and I disagree NYPD is just as good as NCPD
I edited my statement because I read what you wrote VERY quickly and my response was not fair - I was wrong.
I meant NOTHING about the work that the NYPD Versus the NCPD do AT ALL .. I was talking about property taxes , which is another mitigating factor in this whole fiasco. The NYPD deserves FAR MORE than what they are paid.... I never said anything of the sort and NEVER would considering my FH was also NYPD for 8 years before coming to Nassau ......"Paying for what you get " simply meant in Nassau they have a phenominal Police Force who in case we have all forgotten, 4 Officers have lost their lives, along with all of the beaustiful brand new sporst facilities being built, etc etc etc ... Read the Whole thread before making assumptions please!
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Re: Nassau County Wage Freeze........
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Posted by cowgirlkate
City has all two man cars. Nassau has very few. They pay the same salary per car.
There are PLENTY of city cops who don't even have cars...no transit cops have cars...city cops have all different types of patrol. Not sure what you were getting at with this comparison.
The point is fewer guys patrol a larger area in Nassau. It's the suburbs. That's the way it goes.
Anyway, DH has done city and Nassau. He is in a much more dangerous place in Nassau.
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Re: Nassau County Wage Freeze........
I am not smart enough or educated enough to write a great response...but dh works for Nassau county youth services. in this past year alone...his department was at least 10 people. all were fired layed off or asked to retire. he is doing the job of allll those people himself!!! plus the county is not funding etc about half of the non profits that it used to....sooooooooo who gets the short end of the stick??? the people and children truly truly in need . I am not going to talk about salaries but I don't know many people who can take on the work of a whole department themselves, do it well and be in a freeze and not lose their minds. and then to hear of certain officials getting huge like 20k plus raises.....blech!
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Re: Nassau County Wage Freeze........
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Posted by Summergirl
They accepted the jobs starting at an almost poverty level salary,
Starting salary is actually 3x the poverty guidelines.
Please let me know where someone making that salary can buy a home in a decent...not perfect or upper class just safe... Neighborhood at the lowest selling price, pay for heat, electric, water, maintain the home, food, gas, car insurance, car maintaince, school supplies, kids clothes, medical co-pays, and other NECESSARY expenses to live? For cops, it's almost impossible for the spouse to work because they work long shifts and odd hours. It makes it hard for the other partner to work around their schedule unless the spouse makes enough to cover daycare costs, which a lot don't.
My point is, it may be 3x over the national poverty level by here on the island it doesn't cover the cost of living at all.
People ***** and moan that their taxes are high and they don't want to pay for services like food stamps, Medicaid, don't want rental or two family homes in their neighborhood and so on but then don't want to pay the people who save and protect their ass... Cops, ambulance workers, and many others... A decent salary so they don't need to rely on those things.
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Posted by Summergirl
They accepted the jobs starting at an almost poverty level salary,
Starting salary is actually 3x the poverty guidelines.
Please let me know where someone making that salary can buy a home in a decent...not perfect or upper class just safe... Neighborhood at the lowest selling price, pay for heat, electric, water, maintain the home, food, gas, car insurance, car maintaince, school supplies, kids clothes, medical co-pays, and other NECESSARY expenses to live? For cops, it's almost impossible for the spouse to work because they work long shifts and odd hours. It makes it hard for the other partner to work around their schedule unless the spouse makes enough to cover daycare costs, which a lot don't.
My point is, it may be 3x over the national poverty level by here on the island it doesn't cover the cost of living at all.
People ***** and moan that their taxes are high and they don't want to pay for services like food stamps, Medicaid, don't want rental or two family homes in their neighborhood and so on but then don't want to pay the people who save and protect their ass... Cops, ambulance workers, and many others... A decent salary so they don't need to rely on those things.
That last paragraph - a freakin men!
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