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Re: Newspaper Publishes Gun Owners’ Names and Addresses
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AND this is why I fear gun restricitons and this ultimate hate for those who are gun owners and supports.
This is a crime in my opinion! I know its public record but now you put those families in danger of some maniac breaking in JUST to get the weapon. stupid, stupid, stupid.
this is why you fear gun restrictions? If guns were restricted, wouldn't there be less guns to steal?
By 'crime' I meant like "this is a sin" type verbage. i already said its not techincally a crime. public record and all.
And if guns were restricted I'm sure the criminals would totally be unarmed.
I had a long talk about this with some others who are pushing gun control. We all agree no one needs to have a machine gun but what we don't want is the government in our business. We just don't trust them to do the right thing. When does it stop. Is this mccarthy era again? The right to bear arms is our right.
Retricting guns or redefining what an assualt weapon is, gets dangerous and THAT is what we fear the most.
We all want solutions but most gun supporters don't want a rushed decision based on emotions. We WANT mental health to be the focus because its not just guns that can be a weapon of mass destruction. We dont WANT to be proven right. We all want this type of killing to stop but we feel that gun control is just a scape goat.
Actually some gun shows here are asking that felons be provided a different type of license so they are easily identifable and not allowed into gun shows, etc. Its not a solution, but a suggestion (one I'm not sure about either).
We need to stop pointing fingers at eachother and start working together on what we AGREE on.
First, the title of my OP is incorrect. It's not the gun owner's name & addresses but those who have been issued a GUN PERMIT.
Second, I think any government info that is public info should be made easily accessible by the public. If people have an issue with that, they should lobby to have that information be kept private.
For this: We all agree no one needs to have a machine gun but what we don't want is the government in our business. We just don't trust them to do the right thing. When does it stop. Is this mccarthy era again? The right to bear arms is our right.
What does McCarthy Era have to do with this? I'm assuming you do know what the term means but I'm not seeing the connection here. The government accusing its citizens without evidence??
Also the right to bear arms is not an absolute right. The government - federal & state has the right to impose restrictions - as they have throughout history including when the founding fathers wrote the constitution.
As for how I'd treat someone I know's name differently on this list? I'm not sure if I would. But I'd be more hesitant to have my kid over someone's house knowing they had a gun & not knowing what kind of gun owner I was dealing with. I remember being on the phone with a friend (cop) who heard something while she was on the phone with me. She said she was going to sleep with her gun UNDER her pillow because her husband was working overnights. She has 2 young kids in the house - and yet, would not be persuaded that it's a bad idea. That was my eye opener to how people handle guns differently. The cops I knew were very responsible with guns & yet here was someone that I thought showed good judgment sleeping with a gun under her pillow which I think is a colossally bad move.
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Re: Newspaper Publishes Gun Owners’ Names and Addresses
Posted by EclecticEsq10810
As to the argument that the list now advertises gun availiabiltiy to potential thieves, I have to say thats a bit counterintuitive - after all, the point of a private citizen in owning a gun "for protection" is precisely to ward off potential burglars and invaders..So, how does the list invite those burglars to steal the guns if those same guns are there [theoretically[ to prevent their entrance ? I dont quite find that argument to be well thought-out.
They can't protect their home if they are not there. The guns can be stolen while the homeowners are out.
Obtaining a gun permit becomes public record, but the government should not have the authority to give out your address.
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Re: Newspaper Publishes Gun Owners’ Names and Addresses
Part of me disagrees with it but another part of me agrees with it. I understand how someone could feel this is an invasion of privacy, but if I am sending my kid on a play date I would want to be able to look up where they are going and see if they have registered guns in the house. I might decide to just have the play date at my house or stay at the play date until I was assured that the kids could not access the guns. With that said, so many things are listed on the internet it does not surprise me anymore and I would have half expected a list on the computer sooner or later.
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Re: Newspaper Publishes Gun Owners’ Names and Addresses
this serves no purpose except a possibility of targeting LEGAL gun owners for people to either steal their weapons or harass them for being gun owners. It's fukking ridiculous if you ask me. These are LEGAL GUN OWNERS...not sex offenders or pedophiles. Absolute ********.
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Newspaper Publishes Gun Owners’ Names and Addresses
I think this is wrong of the paper. There are plenty of things that are public record (home sales for example) that people don't choose to look up. However, let's say that one paper decides to publish the names and addresses of new homeowners in the area -- people would normally not bother to look it up, but now it's conveniently located in the paper, so it's easier to access. Newer homes are probably easier to rob because security hasn't been set up yet, etc.
It's not about the fact that it's public record, it's about the fact that it's been compiled for who knows who! If people want to access that information, let them find it for themselves.
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Re: Newspaper Publishes Gun Owners’ Names and Addresses
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this serves no purpose except a possibility of targeting LEGAL gun owners for people to either steal their weapons or harass them for being gun owners. It's fukking ridiculous if you ask me. These are LEGAL GUN OWNERS...not sex offenders or pedophiles. Absolute ********.
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Re: Newspaper Publishes Gun Owners’ Names and Addresses
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Part of me disagrees with it but another part of me agrees with it. I understand how someone could feel this is an invasion of privacy, but if I am sending my kid on a play date I would want to be able to look up where they are going and see if they have registered guns in the house. I might decide to just have the play date at my house or stay at the play date until I was assured that the kids could not access the guns. With that said, so many things are listed on the internet it does not surprise me anymore and I would have half expected a list on the computer sooner or later.
I feel the same way- if my child is going to play at someone's house I want to know if there is a gun in that home without having to say, "So, do you own a gun?"  However, I don't like that criminals now know where they can potentially find guns and also where they won't- those homeowners may be more vulnerable too because robbers will know they are probably less likely to get shot.
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Re: Newspaper Publishes Gun Owners’ Names and Addresses
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this serves no purpose except a possibility of targeting LEGAL gun owners for people to either steal their weapons or harass them for being gun owners. It's fukking ridiculous if you ask me. These are LEGAL GUN OWNERS...not sex offenders or pedophiles. Absolute ********.
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I agree too. Ridiculous.
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Re: Newspaper Publishes Gun Owners’ Names and Addresses
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Posted by MrsMeloyellow
this serves no purpose except a possibility of targeting LEGAL gun owners for people to either steal their weapons or harass them for being gun owners. It's fukking ridiculous if you ask me. These are LEGAL GUN OWNERS...not sex offenders or pedophiles. Absolute ********.
ITA
I agree too. Ridiculous.
ITA. Lets be honest with ourselves - the criminals have guns and will continue to have guns whether or not they are legal. YES, I know what just happened but that was a FREAK thing.
When I was younger, a classmates father who ran a boars head truck in not the best area was stabbed something like 72 times to death in the broad daylight right on the street. He left behind three young children. Had he carried a gun to protect himself my guess is he would still be alive. I know several people in the area that work in similar capacities or in medical or dental offices (where criminals come for drugs not just $$) etc. that armed themselves after that. Lesson learned for them. Why shouldn't someone have the LEGAL RIGHT to LEGALLY protect themselves from this kind of horror. Because, in reality, that kind of situation arises a lot more often than a crazed lunatic armed with legal weapons shooting up a school.
I know we are all reeling from what happened and looking for somewhere to point the finger and somehow to prevent this horror from happening again but, I personally don't think this is the way.
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Re: Newspaper Publishes Gun Owners’ Names and Addresses
Posted by MrsMeloyellow
this serves no purpose except a possibility of targeting LEGAL gun owners for people to either steal their weapons or harass them for being gun owners. It's fukking ridiculous if you ask me. These are LEGAL GUN OWNERS...not sex offenders or pedophiles. Absolute ********.
I couldn't agree more. I am really am having a hard time understanding what the purpose of them printing this is.
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Re: Newspaper Publishes Gun Owners’ Names and Addresses
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I know we are all reeling from what happened and looking for somewhere to point the finger and somehow to prevent this horror from happening again but, I personally don't think this is the way.
Sandy Hook aside, I've been for gun control for a very long time. I also think shotguns, etc need to be regulated too.
I think the website was created to provoke discussion but I don't think it is a bad thing. I'm all for accessibility for public info.
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Re: Newspaper Publishes Gun Owners’ Names and Addresses
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Posted by itsbabytime
I know we are all reeling from what happened and looking for somewhere to point the finger and somehow to prevent this horror from happening again but, I personally don't think this is the way.
Sandy Hook aside, I've been for gun control for a very long time. I also think shotguns, etc need to be regulated too.
I think the website was created to provoke discussion but I don't think it is a bad thing. I'm all for accessibility for public info.
I understand that people won't all agree on the topic of gun control. I also understand the concern many people have. However, I personally was not raised to fear guns. Rather I was taught to respect their power and the seriousness of the repercussions of using guns without 100% responsibility and maturity.
I originally said I was for an automatic weapons ban bc I myself, while pro 2nd amendment didn't see the need for any citizen to shoot that many bullets per second. However, I'm starting to even question an assault ban at all. Not because I think it would be wonderful for people to walk around willy nilly with automatic weapons...but bc I don't believe it will be effective. Also, the 2nd amendment was VERY specific in it's mention that the peoples right to keep and bare arms SHALL NOT BE INFRINGED. The reason for this was due to tyrannical government. I know it seems like FOREVER ago...but tell that to a holocaust survivor. People before us fought hard for us to have the freedom we have, freedom like no other in the world. I refuse to sit here and act like it was SOOOO long ago that these atrocities of government occurred and therefore the 2nd amendment is archaic, because it wasn't long ago at all. And until the president can walk around without automatic assault weapons protecting him and his family, and the nations GOLD, I will not shut up about the right to protect my family and all that we have worked hard for. I don't own a gun currently, but I have a right to should I choose to do so. I have been discussing it with DH more and more.
Those who cannot remember history are doomed to repeat it.
I don't expect people to change their views or opinions...but I really really hope everyone will watch this and at least gain a new perspective...maybe:
but anyway, yeah...back to the original topic. Public records...what if someone posted your address, and that you had a child of X age living at the residence. Would you be ok with that being posted in a newspaper? Because I CERTAINLY would not. As of right now...the 2nd amendment is still VERY MUCH in effect and therefore posting these peoples info in a newspaper article during a time when the gun debate has reached a head is serving what purpose exactly? besides attempting to target and shame LAW ABIDING citizens and treating them like sex offenders?
sorry PP, I know i quoted you and it might sound like I'm angry...it's not directed @ you...just used your comment as my little platform LOL and the way that this newspaper went about whatever the hell agenda they were trying to accomplish really really upsets me bc it's not fair...these people have done NOTHING WRONG.
ok, I think I'm done venting now 
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Newspaper Publishes Gun Owners’ Names and Addresses
Hmm.. seems like we are one of the few in our town without a permit (in rockland). We live in an area that has a high population of police officers so it really doesn't surprise me.
I don't agree with publishing the list though - make people do some legwork!
The list is somewhat dated - some people who are listed on my street don't live there anymore (we have been here almost six years).
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Re: Newspaper Publishes Gun Owners’ Names and Addresses
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Hmm.. seems like we are one of the few in our town without a permit (in rockland). We live in an area that has a high population of police officers so it really doesn't surprise me.
I don't agree with publishing the list though - make people do some legwork!
The list is somewhat dated - some people who are listed on my street don't live there anymore (we have been here almost six years).
Are you saying they include COPS on that list?
If so...that is NOT cool on so many levels.
Holy shit
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Re: Newspaper Publishes Gun Owners’ Names and Addresses
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Hmm.. seems like we are one of the few in our town without a permit (in rockland). We live in an area that has a high population of police officers so it really doesn't surprise me.
I don't agree with publishing the list though - make people do some legwork!
The list is somewhat dated - some people who are listed on my street don't live there anymore (we have been here almost six years).
Are you saying they include COPS on that list?
If so...that is NOT cool on so many levels.
Holy shit
I'm not sure - there were so many dots in my area I couldn't find anyone specifically - I guess it would maybe only include retired ones and ones who had to file with the county.
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Re: Newspaper Publishes Gun Owners’ Names and Addresses
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Posted by NervousNell
Posted by ali120206
Hmm.. seems like we are one of the few in our town without a permit (in rockland). We live in an area that has a high population of police officers so it really doesn't surprise me.
I don't agree with publishing the list though - make people do some legwork!
The list is somewhat dated - some people who are listed on my street don't live there anymore (we have been here almost six years).
Are you saying they include COPS on that list?
If so...that is NOT cool on so many levels.
Holy shit
I'm not sure - there were so many dots in my area I couldn't find anyone specifically - I guess it would maybe only include retired ones and ones who had to file with the county.
If they are printing name/address based on gun permits, wouldn't that include all current cops too??
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Re: Newspaper Publishes Gun Owners’ Names and Addresses
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Posted by itsbabytime
I know we are all reeling from what happened and looking for somewhere to point the finger and somehow to prevent this horror from happening again but, I personally don't think this is the way.
Sandy Hook aside, I've been for gun control for a very long time. I also think shotguns, etc need to be regulated too.
I think the website was created to provoke discussion but I don't think it is a bad thing. I'm all for accessibility for public info.
I understand that people won't all agree on the topic of gun control. I also understand the concern many people have. However, I personally was not raised to fear guns. Rather I was taught to respect their power and the seriousness of the repercussions of using guns without 100% responsibility and maturity.
I originally said I was for an automatic weapons ban bc I myself, while pro 2nd amendment didn't see the need for any citizen to shoot that many bullets per second. However, I'm starting to even question an assault ban at all. Not because I think it would be wonderful for people to walk around willy nilly with automatic weapons...but bc I don't believe it will be effective. Also, the 2nd amendment was VERY specific in it's mention that the peoples right to keep and bare arms SHALL NOT BE INFRINGED. The reason for this was due to tyrannical government. I know it seems like FOREVER ago...but tell that to a holocaust survivor. People before us fought hard for us to have the freedom we have, freedom like no other in the world. I refuse to sit here and act like it was SOOOO long ago that these atrocities of government occurred and therefore the 2nd amendment is archaic, because it wasn't long ago at all. And until the president can walk around without automatic assault weapons protecting him and his family, and the nations GOLD, I will not shut up about the right to protect my family and all that we have worked hard for. I don't own a gun currently, but I have a right to should I choose to do so. I have been discussing it with DH more and more.
Those who cannot remember history are doomed to repeat it.
I don't expect people to change their views or opinions...but I really really hope everyone will watch this and at least gain a new perspective...maybe:
but anyway, yeah...back to the original topic. Public records...what if someone posted your address, and that you had a child of X age living at the residence. Would you be ok with that being posted in a newspaper? Because I CERTAINLY would not. As of right now...the 2nd amendment is still VERY MUCH in effect and therefore posting these peoples info in a newspaper article during a time when the gun debate has reached a head is serving what purpose exactly? besides attempting to target and shame LAW ABIDING citizens and treating them like sex offenders?
sorry PP, I know i quoted you and it might sound like I'm angry...it's not directed @ you...just used your comment as my little platform LOL and the way that this newspaper went about whatever the hell agenda they were trying to accomplish really really upsets me bc it's not fair...these people have done NOTHING WRONG.
ok, I think I'm done venting now
I agree with so much of what you are saying. If there could be world where NO ONE had guns that would be wonderful. However, that will never happen and I do not feel comfortable with guns in the hands of the government/ criminals and not in the hands of law abiding citizens. I watched the video and it definitely has an agenda and is quite extreme. That said, it makes some good points.
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Re: Newspaper Publishes Gun Owners’ Names and Addresses
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Posted by ali120206
Posted by NervousNell
Posted by ali120206
Hmm.. seems like we are one of the few in our town without a permit (in rockland). We live in an area that has a high population of police officers so it really doesn't surprise me.
I don't agree with publishing the list though - make people do some legwork!
The list is somewhat dated - some people who are listed on my street don't live there anymore (we have been here almost six years).
Are you saying they include COPS on that list?
If so...that is NOT cool on so many levels.
Holy shit
I'm not sure - there were so many dots in my area I couldn't find anyone specifically - I guess it would maybe only include retired ones and ones who had to file with the county.
If they are printing name/address based on gun permits, wouldn't that include all current cops too??
Cops who are active don't get permits. Their permit is their badge/police ID.
DH only.had to get a permit with the county after he retired.
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Re: Newspaper Publishes Gun Owners’ Names and Addresses
I wish I could easily find out who owned a gun in my county in NC. I want to know if there is a gun in the household before I let my kid go over to play.
Is it right that a paper prints it? Probably not. But I wish I could run a search for every namebefore a playdate.
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Re: Newspaper Publishes Gun Owners’ Names and Addresses
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Posted by MrsMeloyellow
Posted by nrthshgrl
Posted by itsbabytime
I know we are all reeling from what happened and looking for somewhere to point the finger and somehow to prevent this horror from happening again but, I personally don't think this is the way.
Sandy Hook aside, I've been for gun control for a very long time. I also think shotguns, etc need to be regulated too.
I think the website was created to provoke discussion but I don't think it is a bad thing. I'm all for accessibility for public info.
I understand that people won't all agree on the topic of gun control. I also understand the concern many people have. However, I personally was not raised to fear guns. Rather I was taught to respect their power and the seriousness of the repercussions of using guns without 100% responsibility and maturity.
I originally said I was for an automatic weapons ban bc I myself, while pro 2nd amendment didn't see the need for any citizen to shoot that many bullets per second. However, I'm starting to even question an assault ban at all. Not because I think it would be wonderful for people to walk around willy nilly with automatic weapons...but bc I don't believe it will be effective. Also, the 2nd amendment was VERY specific in it's mention that the peoples right to keep and bare arms SHALL NOT BE INFRINGED. The reason for this was due to tyrannical government. I know it seems like FOREVER ago...but tell that to a holocaust survivor. People before us fought hard for us to have the freedom we have, freedom like no other in the world. I refuse to sit here and act like it was SOOOO long ago that these atrocities of government occurred and therefore the 2nd amendment is archaic, because it wasn't long ago at all. And until the president can walk around without automatic assault weapons protecting him and his family, and the nations GOLD, I will not shut up about the right to protect my family and all that we have worked hard for. I don't own a gun currently, but I have a right to should I choose to do so. I have been discussing it with DH more and more.
Those who cannot remember history are doomed to repeat it.
I don't expect people to change their views or opinions...but I really really hope everyone will watch this and at least gain a new perspective...maybe:
but anyway, yeah...back to the original topic. Public records...what if someone posted your address, and that you had a child of X age living at the residence. Would you be ok with that being posted in a newspaper? Because I CERTAINLY would not. As of right now...the 2nd amendment is still VERY MUCH in effect and therefore posting these peoples info in a newspaper article during a time when the gun debate has reached a head is serving what purpose exactly? besides attempting to target and shame LAW ABIDING citizens and treating them like sex offenders?
sorry PP, I know i quoted you and it might sound like I'm angry...it's not directed @ you...just used your comment as my little platform LOL and the way that this newspaper went about whatever the hell agenda they were trying to accomplish really really upsets me bc it's not fair...these people have done NOTHING WRONG.
ok, I think I'm done venting now
I agree with so much of what you are saying. If there could be world where NO ONE had guns that would be wonderful. However, that will never happen and I do not feel comfortable with guns in the hands of the government/ criminals and not in the hands of law abiding citizens. I watched the video and it definitely has an agenda and is quite extreme. That said, it makes some good points.
ITA as well!
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Re: Newspaper Publishes Gun Owners’ Names and Addresses
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I wish I could easily find out who owned a gun in my county in NC. I want to know if there is a gun in the household before I let my kid go over to play.
Is it right that a paper prints it? Probably not. But I wish I could run a search for every namebefore a playdate.
as a mom, I feel you on that point...but what about drug users? you could send your child to a home where you have NO CLUE that the person uses drugs. there is no registry for that sort of thing and yet it often happens that a child gains access to drugs that are left out and about. Our children are always in possible danger when not under our supervision. Thats why it's more important to screen the people we let our children stay with. I would have no problem asking someone if they have a gun or any drugs in the house my child plans to stay in. I'd imagine any sane gun owner would have no problem answering that question honestly as well as elaborating on the safety precautions taken and would understand why a parent would ask.
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Re: Newspaper Publishes Gun Owners’ Names and Addresses
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 I think its a step in the right direction. Good job for that paper! We need to bring awareness and starting locally is the way to go.
With all due respect.
"We need to bring awareness..."
To what? Legal gun owners? People who have followed the law to legally own a gun? Allowing criminals to now know where EVERYONE lives? Putting those peoples lives and homes in danger? "embarassing" legal gun owners?
I could not disagree with you more.
Publishing their names does nothing but put their lives and homes in danger.
We are loosing site that guns are and will be legal to own in this country. The law of the land says we are allowed. That will not change.
I beleiev there should be a thoughtful and serious look into HOW to manage gun controll. Evereyone is saying "we need gu controll now", but no one (legislaters) has really come up with "how".
And I plan to buy a gun very soon, actually. I want to buy one before it gets difficult. I want to go to the range and shoot. Nothing more. But I want to be able to buy a gun.
I will also:
1. Take a gun safety class.
2. Put a trigger lock on the gun.
3. Lock the gun in a case.
Awareness to who of our neighbors feel the need to own weapons. Personally, I dont think its necessary. If I want to shooting, I'd just go to a range and rent a gun. I would NOT want a gun in my house and if I had kids, he--lll NO. I wouldn't want my kids playing with other kids whose parents have guns in the house, I dont care how much lock and key they are under - Nancy Lanza probably had her gun well protected and we all saw how THAT turned out!
Personally, I just dont feel there is any need for private citizens (not affiliated with law enforcement) to own guns PERIOD. My personal opinion is that those people who feel the need to own guns "for protection" are doing so out of fear, and fear breeds irrationality. I am sure others disagree but thats
how I feel.
ETA: As to the argument that the list now advertises gun availiabiltiy to potential thieves, I have to say thats a bit counterintuitive - after all, the point of a private citizen in owning a gun "for protection" is precisely to ward off potential burglars and invaders..So, how does the list invite those burglars to steal the guns if those same guns are there [theoretically[ to prevent their entrance ? I dont quite find that argument to be well thought-out.
So out of curiosity, your kids are not allowed to be friends with cops' kids? News flash -- lots of cops on LI.
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Re: Newspaper Publishes Gun Owners’ Names and Addresses
I would imagine its a lot of cops or retired cops on that list.
Do you need a permit in those counties to own a shotgun or a rifle? I know you don't in Suffolk or Nassau.
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| Posted 12/26/12 10:41 PM |
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hotsauce345
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Re: Newspaper Publishes Gun Owners’ Names and Addresses
Posted by EclecticEsq10810
ETA: As to the argument that the list now advertises gun availiabiltiy to potential thieves, I have to say thats a bit counterintuitive - after all, the point of a private citizen in owning a gun "for protection" is precisely to ward off potential burglars and invaders..So, how does the list invite those burglars to steal the guns if those same guns are there [theoretically[ to prevent their entrance ? I dont quite find that argument to be well thought-out.
obviously they would be deterred when the gun owners were home...but what if they stake houses listed to see when people leave? it's not so far fetched at all...people looking to burglarize homes do it all the time. Even if the guns are in a safe, nobody would know that until they have already broken in...so what then? they'll just leave because they couldn't get to the guns? probably not...they'll probably help themselves to whatever else they can find OR they might even wait for the gun owner to come home and if they are armed or more than 1 of them they may try to force the gun owner to open the safe at gun point.
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| Posted 12/26/12 11:03 PM |
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Re: Newspaper Publishes Gun Owners’ Names and Addresses
Posted by Paramount
Great.
They just gave criminals the addresses where there are guns to steal.
Dumb. A$$es.
Stupid
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| Posted 12/26/12 11:16 PM |
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